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3:06 PM
So I see this link about a backdoor in some Linksys routers. Crack open the powerpoint, and there's an answer from SU's own @Mokubai in there.
 
lol
that is cool
 
3:28 PM
mini-HDMI adapter works! Mission completer. I did what I planned. The HDMI output looks awesome on HDTV indeed.
 
Does anybody here use user style scripts?
 
3:53 PM
Why the fuck does google put everything inside Appdata :/
 
@Gowtham Because it wants to burn your house down
 
@Gowtham always wondered the same thing.
 
4:31 PM
@allquixotic have you tested the bot.interactive call to see if it works at all yet?
 
@Boris_yo Because programmatically the APIs windows presents makes it an ideal location for a large variety of things. Also because it may be that Google is using clickonce or other MS products which have a tendency to do this; also - because that's largely what the AppData folder was created for
AppData is a common storage location for anything that's either simply necessary data, or applications in the event they are treated like versionable data and use auto-updating mechanisms because the APIs make this an ideal location for such as well as it being rational as at that point the binaries are being treated as data; auto-selfupdate is almost like homoiconicity
 
@JimmyHoffa @Boris_yo Also, allows certain apps to be installed without being an Administrator, just for the one user
 
@CanadianLuke Yeah, that's what I meant about the APIs, there's easy ways to reach AppData without having to know the direct folder location (it might be on L:) as well as the APIs make user segregation/permissions/roaming and these things transparent to you
which are the reasons MS' own installation technology ClickOnce installs shit there
 
Direct Folder Location has been "not encouraged" since at least Windows 2000 days
 
Anonymous
4:47 PM
@JourneymanGeek what are the posters you've hung in your wall
 
@JimmyHoffa Not good. API folders are prone to compromise from hackers.
Direct folder location? It is oposite to the following?

~/windows/system32/
 
@Boris_yo I said using an API means you don't directly access the folder, you just use Machine.AppData and wherever it's located is where your shit goes.
 
I mean Windows makes weird folder redirects is what I have noticed. Example would be Library which does not point directly to file's location.
 
@Boris_yo Using an API minimizes your responsibility for securing the folder so you don't have to worry about bugs in your own violating security, at that point it's up to the API provider to ensure security and so it's a debate for a programmer: Do I think I will make a greater level of security in my own folder controls than the OS provides for it's API constructed folder locations? You have to assume the OS maintains sane permissions and segmentation across those folders.
As an application developer it's not your responsibility to verify or ensure the security of the Operating Systems facilities
 
@JimmyHoffa I usually go to c:/users/app data/roaming or local/
 
4:55 PM
@Boris_yo Which causes problems for users who installed everything to K: instead of C:
and further doesn't abstract across OS's: It's not always going to be the same folder from XP to server 2003 to vista and everything up to 8.1
When you use an OS API dictated folder path like Google's doing, you know you'll have a safe and sane folder location across all windows
 
@JimmyHoffa Are you MSIE or MSCE?
Have CompTIA?
 
@Boris_yo I'm a CFE
 
!!urban CFE
 
@Boris_yo That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: unban, ban
 
!!define CFE
 
4:58 PM
@Boris_yo No definition found.
 
@Boris_yo Certifiable Fuckin' Engineer.
 
@JimmyHoffa You are speaking about your certification in vulgar way.
 
@Boris_yo I'm being sarcastic; I suppose that may be lost in the language gap
 
@JimmyHoffa MCSE
You made it through course and got diploma?
 
@Boris_yo I've no diplomas
 
5:01 PM
@JimmyHoffa Usually where I live, they give diplomas. Yes, even Social Media Manager course gives you diploma, believe it or not.
Friggin' conspiracy.
But you can get diploma without course however you will have to learn by yourself.
 
Always use environmental variables for code portability. End of story
%USERPROFILE%, %APPDATA%, %PROGRAMFILES%, %WINDIR%, etc
 
@CanadianLuke nonsense; use APIs :P Environment variables can be munged or misbehaved: msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/14tx8hby(v=vs.110).aspx
 
I stand corrected then
 
@CanadianLuke Yes! This is what I was referring to in the beginning!
How do I clean printer's head manually? What cleaning solution to use? Isopropyl alcohol?
 
5:19 PM
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Anonymous
5:57 PM
 
Ash
is there any philosophy behind the creation of dogcoins ?
 
Anonymous
dogecoin?
 
Anonymous
just to mock bitcoin people
 
Ash
:)
 
@PatoSáinz Like when there are 2 testers and each says WTF - it is okay but when each says WTF over and over is not okay?
 
Anonymous
6:04 PM
@Boris_yo yes
 
Anonymous
exactly
 
Guys, I'm not that great with hardware, so could someone help me out?
 
Anonymous
sup @allquixotic
 
Anonymous
do you have any recommendations on home offices?
 
Anonymous
6:17 PM
and posters
 
Anybody? ;-;
 
Anonymous
@ErraticFox what
 
I'm wanting to pick out a Intel processor of the equivalence of a AMD 8-Core 3.5 Ghz processor.
I get lost with Intel processors.
 
Anonymous
@ErraticFox ...read online reviews?
 
Anonymous
specs?
 
Anonymous
6:19 PM
something?
 
I guess I'll go to tomshardware then... >.>
 
@ErraticFox If you're still here
I find that the Intel i5 series CPUs seem to match (sometimes even exceed) certain AMD 8 core processors. What one in particular are you looking for?
 
Anonymous
@CanadianLuke there are lots of i5s
 
That's why I need to know what 8-core AMD he's looking at
@PatoSáinz You'll also need to change your motherboard (if you're doing an upgrade of a current system)
@Boris_yo My picture finally:
 
Anonymous
6:37 PM
> Outspoken Posted 10 messages in chat that were starred by 10 different users.
 
Anonymous
and i still got 8 rep
 
Does anyone know if rsync automatically encrypts data it's currently transferring? Or should an SSH tunnel be set up first?
 
@Luke For secure transfer it can use ssh to encrypt data during the transfer. To ensure ssh is used, use "-e ssh" option. From the man page: "For remote transfers, a modern rsync uses ssh for its communications, but it may have been configured to use a different remote shell by default, such as rsh or remsh."
from Wikipedia =p my teachers would be so proud
 
Thanks @ekaj / Wikipedia
 
7:03 PM
user image
2
"IT'S A BOY!"
 
@ekaj Looks like a squid!
 
haha =p
 
A beautiful baby Encephalopod
 
sup jim
haven't had a chance to try your latest commit but i have to do some updates to so-chatbot-driver first anyway
 
Colorado: Failure of all accent tests; we have none. Never identifiable to any area because we could be from anywhere as we lack any identifiable traits in our speech patterns.
 
lenovo G560 - homegroup activated
Dell E6420 - homegroup activated

But why latter's homegroup is inaccessible and says that it does not have homegroup?
@ekaj Is that "third leg" he is growing between legs.. ahem
@CanadianLuke lol I have not imagined you this way...
 
Third leg? Alsop fouth leg, fifth leg, sixth legs... Not sure to call it "awful" or "lucky"
 
@allquixotic hi
Should I clean printer's head with isopropyl?
Until now I have disabled Bi-Directional Printing and it seems to solve it however I used that option for a long time and all was fine. What could have happened it no longer worked normally?
 
7:56 PM
@allquixotic Hah I love the "What do you call that large cat that lives in american mountains?" - From denver we know exactly what that is all to well so the whole state is one totally uniform and ridiculously strong shade of agreement, they're Mountain Lions
@allquixotic It placed me in California. You can never pick Colorado by accent or language :)
 
@Hennes Lucky if he has 2, 3, 4, or 5 women all at the same time
@Boris_yo I know, I shocked the few people who actually came in to work today
Just wait till I shave it with a razor!
 
@CanadianLuke Shave what? You already shaved.
 
I'm gonna shave my head, down to the scalp, just before my trip
 
8:11 PM
@CanadianLuke Trip to where?
 
@CanadianLuke Vacation?
 
GUYS! "Learn to Code at Harvard for Free" yaya for me! :D
 
@Jeremy Do you still need it?
 
8:19 PM
@CanadianLuke I got it. Thanks though
 
9:18 PM
 
Guy in the question wanted to upgrade from XP to 8.1 but he couldn't..
so he upgraded from XP to 7, and from 7 to 8.1.. ick
 
9:38 PM
funny.
 
> And now I'm preparing for another ~10 hours of reinstalling my OS ...
People these days. I tell you what.
If it takes you 10 hours to install any OS, you're doing it wrong. Very wrong.
 
Maybe he's including reinstalling applications on top of that
 
I asked, haven't got a reply. I'm hoping, very much hoping that's what he meant.
 
I know many people that use "reinstalling OS" to term the process from start to finish with getting to fully usable again like it was before reinstalling
 
Still though, I don't think it takes that long to reinstall everything if you're on the ball about it.
I reinstall my Windows OS about every 5 months. Just for the kek.
 
9:45 PM
When you count all the little tweaks and adjustments and utilities and scripts... yeah, yeah I can see it taking 10 hours
 
Linux. I know I'm going to get hate, but really what do people use it for?
 
@ErraticFox Most anything you'd use Windows or OS X for.
 
I kind of just do that stuff over time unless it's a actual system dire necessity.
@DarthAndroid that's my point, so why not just use Windows or OS X?
 
Because the features are slightly different. There are thing that it does better than those, and things that it does worse.
 
The real only point I see in using it is the customization.
But it barely supports anything or always just has an alternative program.
 
9:47 PM
For one, it's not backdoored by the NSA
Not sure what you mean, ErraticFox. I'd say on average it supports things just as well as Windows or OSX
 
I really don't see why people are so jumpy about NSA. If you're not doing anything illegal, don't worry about it.
 
That argument has so many holes it's not even funny.
 
I know "OH MY PRIVACY MY PRIVACY"
 
it's not about privacy.
 
Then what?
 
9:49 PM
It's about the fact that the government can redefine "illegal" to be whatever they want
 
I do agree that. Them abusing the laws because they are the law.
 
The point of privacy is to limit their ability to abuse the law.
And when you use the "if you're not doing anything illegal..." argument, you miss that point entirely.
 
I know, but I think of it like "Well, at least it isn't affecting me."
It depends on how you view it.
What harm could it really do to me?
 
If that's your point of view, then I would like you to read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...
Uh
Well
First, the government doesn't like something that you're doing
And then they ban it, and then they invade your privacy to find out that you're doing it, and then they arrest you
 
I do about what every average teen or young adult does. Play video games.
On the side, learn code and do graphical art.
While doing those three, I listen to music.
 
9:53 PM
And what would you do if the government outlawed programming because it can be used to hack?
Or rather, outlawed unlicensed programming.
 
HAHAHAA.
HAHAHAHAAH
 
Why are you laughing?
See, here's the problem with your argument earlier
The government does this
and then they do a system scan of your computer, and it gets flagged.
 
Because, that'd be like banning oxygen.
 
And then you get arrested.
So? The government has done stupider things before.
That won't save you from getting your door kicked in and you being arrested as a hacker terrorist
 
@ErraticFox do you download music illegally? pirate games? look at porn? at any point, the government could decide that they don't like what you're doing in one of these areas, or that you've crossed some threshold beyond which it is worth it to go after you, and because they are silently watching, you'll never know when you might cross that threshold... even just sharing your opinions on politics online can get you in hot water.
 
9:55 PM
They also have laws against pirating. Wow, look at how many people pirate stuff. So what's to say if it did happen?
PIRATING IS A LAW.
 
Pirating is the balance vs. overzealous copyright.
 
How do you know that "illegal programming" wouldn't just be the equivalent of illegal downloading?
 
@ErraticFox no, "pirating" is not a law -- piracy, which is a poor analogy used by the MPAA and RIAA that compares pirates (who steal ships and cargo at sea) to people who send or receive unauthorized copies of copyrighted material, is against the law.
 
Where "Oh that's illegal, but still thousands, yet millions still do it."
 
The breaking of law is actually a major way of how sociological changes come about. Look at the recent shifts in drug laws across the world and in the US
That simply would not have happened if it had been possible to effectively enforce drug law
 
9:58 PM
Downloading music is against the law. I even remember in those stupid movie commercials along time ago saying it.
 
The end result is people are seeing that "hey, drugs in certain instances are helpful and alright"
 
@ErraticFox the fallacy with "it's illegal yet millions do it" is that, first of all, they are actively developing programs, automated programs and "fast paths" through the legal system, to charge and receive sentencing for thousands of people per day for these small violations, effectively turning it into a profit center. the law isn't going to just remain slow and traditional forever, arresting 1 person per month or whatever for downloading music.
people always say "it'll never happen to me" -- as if you're someone special or you're invincible or some shit -- until they serve you a notice to appear in court
 
You guys are just like conspiracy theorists.
 
Heh
The funny thing about that
 
You believe something will happen, if it can happen.
 
10:00 PM
Is all the snowden leaks proved the caspiracy theorists correct.
 
And I emphasize will.
I'm talking about the crazy "9/11 was a inside job" kind.
 
@ErraticFox no; you are being a typical naive teenager, thinking that you are invincible and that you can break all the rules and get away with it because it's the cool, trendy thing to do that all the popular kids do. you think that you aren't important enough or visible enough to be noticed and targeted as a dissident. you really have no idea how the world actually works.
 
But your argument is so far in the opposite direction that it's just as wrong
"They're not doing it right now so they'll never do it."
 
@allquixotic, you're getting too old.
 
and no, I do not believe 9/11 was an inside job; there's no evidence to support that. there is very strong evidence to support that breaking the law has consequences. it may not be today or next year, but it'll happen. you'll get what's coming to you if you have broken the law.
 
10:02 PM
@allquixotic that came out wrong.
 
especially if you do it so flagrantly right in front of their noses as if they don't notice. hah. the FBI has honeypots within the bittorrent networks, likely seeding you the very files that they'll use to convict you.
 
And they are doing things right now. The NSA is actively collecting information on people's search history and sexual preferences for the explicit purpose of discrediting them and shaming them in front of the public eye
 
And why haven't I ever seen this happen to some innocent person? @DarthAndroid
Why haven't I ever even came close to hearing something like this?
 
I seen Muslims. I quit reading.
 
10:05 PM
The problem is that by the time that the government starts using it on "innocent people", it is too late to peacefully revert the changes.
Why, ErraticFox?
 
@ErraticFox You say that as if it would be on the front page of CNN Headline News if it did happen. The corporate media is effectively a fourth branch of the government. They're on the same team. There would be absolutely no incentive for them to wave a dangerous case like that in front of the public to incite discontent, unless they can find a way to turn a person's history (or fabricated history) against them, like they did with Snowden.
 
Would you continue reading if it said American Citizens?
 
@ErraticFox Wow. The bigotry of that statement is just baffling.
 
What about muslim american citizens?
 
Probably, yes. But it was obvious that they targeted them on purpose just because of their decedents.
Not muslim american citizens
Who cares if he looked at porn. It's natural for some people to do that.
And you guys are all "Oh it's bad, this is bad", but what are you really even doing to stop it?
Nothing.
 
10:09 PM
@ErraticFox So non-American Muslims are automatically not innocent? It's automatically okay to violate their privacy because of their religion or their country of citizenship? What if, tomorrow, a white American male caused a massive catastrophe in the name of terrorism? Would they then have a justifiable basis for violating the privacy of all white American males, too?
 
None of it's justifiable. But they picked that race specifically.
You know that and I do.
 
Who picked that race?
Are you talking about HP or about the government
 
Muslims are a race now? I thought they were just adherents to a particular religion. Huh.
 
Bob
@allquixotic wouldn't be the first time. cf. a whole lot of school shootings
@allquixotic ...just about to say that :P
 
OR WHATEVER THEY ARE
RELIGION YOU GET MY POINT.
 
Bob
10:11 PM
@ErraticFox Ya know, you're coming across as really insensitive.
(also, we like to be pedantic. deal with it...)
 
How so?
Because I'm calling you guys out on the topic of you being worried about it, but taking no action.
 
Bob
@ErraticFox What action do you expect me to take? (I've only skimmed the transcript)
I'm Australian. I have zero say in what the American government does.
 
Then, good for you.
 
Bob
Not that our own gov is doing much better :\
@ErraticFox Actually, very bad for me.
 
And I've seen a lot more people take action about this situation.
Maybe it didn't help, but at least they tried. Instead of sitting here talking about it.
 
Bob
10:14 PM
@ErraticFox You do realise they are not mutually exclusive?
And "taking action" doesn't have to mean running around a street?
Anyway, who are you to complain about what we're doing?
 
> Because I'm calling you guys out on the topic of you being worried about it, but taking no action.
 
Bob
...screw it. I'll just write you off as a troll.
2
 
I'm being legitimately serious.
I can't list exactly what actions you can take, but I know there are actions you could take.
 
Bob
o.O
@allquixotic here's a new one: lowendbox.com/blog/…
> Raspberry Pi

512MB RAM
Model B
8GB SD Card
100GB Bandwidth
100Mbit uplink
1x IPv4 address
Raspian OS
£7/month
Approx. $11.29
Incl. VAT
Order here
Not entirely sure why a Pi is so expensive, and more so than the other VPSes...
 
@ErraticFox I vote and write letters. I don't need a picket sign to be "taking action".
 
10:20 PM
@DarthAndroid I had voting and writing letters in mind. But look at these "l33t h4ck3z", yes there are a lot of fake people out there that pretend to be hackers and blah. But the people who are sick of their complete BS take down their government website. Of course this isn't the ideally approach, but at least they're taking action.
I mean look at Microsoft's approach. "Let's harvest our customers data." What happened? Skype's twitter account getting hacked with the following tweet "Stop using Outlook and Hotmail, they harvest your data." was posted around 2,000 times. Taking action. That's what you have to do.
 
10:36 PM
 
@OliverSalzburg Moral of the story: A glass of a 7-year scotch is to be had tonight.
 
@JimmyHoffa I wish I had a collection where I could chose in such criteria :D
 
@OliverSalzburg At least it is not 111 less...
Those are soldiers we need!
 
@Boris_yo It was 111 days ago
 
Bob
10:53 PM
@OliverSalzburg But how many consecutive? ;)
 
@Bob Not as many as you have, that's for sure ;D
For 2 consecutive years, I lost my days at the same party
It hurt, but the party is always fun :P
 
Bob
lol
NY party?
 
A demo party: evoke.eu
 
Bob
nice
 

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