Root Access

Shiki

11:00

ah it's just generic Kingston ram

Bob

The blue thing?

Shiki

yeah

Bob

That's.. generic? o.o

Shiki

Well, they were really cheap

HyperX modules (1600mhz Profile 1)

Bob

is the blue thing part of the RAM?

Shiki

11:01

uuuhm okay, which blue you mean?

Bob

24 mins ago, by Shiki

Shiki

yeah 6 RAM modules

3 HyperX and 3 other HyperX from a different series

you can see that three of them got those metal clamps on them

but yeah they fit the Gigabyte blue color perfectly

Bob

yea, well, it has a cover

Journeyman Geek

@Shiki: o0

I haven't seen one of those in a LONG time

does that cable split off or something?

Bob

THIS is generic RAM:

Shiki

11:02

One ram:
http://upload.hardver-teszt.hu/imgs/tests/2011/373/kingston-hyperx-genesis-blue.jpg

Second ram:
http://image.arukereso.hu/full/54818234.kingston-hyperx-8gb-2x4gb-ddr3-1600mhz-khx1600c9d3k2-8g.jpg

Bob

Journeyman Geek

Thats a azalia connector meant for systems without a standardised front panel output

Shiki

yeah I had trouble with the GEIL / Kingmax modules I bought first (BSOD), so I just went for XMP modules. And these work like a charm ever since.

@JourneymanGeek Yeah it's an ooooooooooooold Foxconn case. (It's a BEAST. Like 15kg heavy beast.)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Sure about that?

> Intel High Definition Audio (also called HD Audio or Azalia) refers to the specification released by Intel in 2004 for delivering high-definition audio that is capable of playing back more channels at higher quality than previous integrated audio codecs like AC'97. During development it had the codename "Azalia".

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: remember the time I asked about HDA va AC97?

Bob

11:04

@JourneymanGeek Yes; I linked to your comment above :P

Psycogeek

there is a floppy in there to right?

Journeyman Geek

yeah

Bob

waiiit...

@Shiki ...disregard me mentioning hd audio above

Psycogeek

so how old could it be :-)

Shiki

Yepp, it was installed when I bought the case :D

Journeyman Geek

11:05

well, when I opened up my other case to check, it split into three bundles, the third was loose

Bob

the Intel spec sheet was apparently for AC97

..

Shiki

No it's not THAT old

Bob

the original spec sheet I used is on a site that's currently down

Journeyman Geek

@Shiki: about 07ish?

Shiki

I don't know why did the guy even put one into it when I bought it

Bob

11:05

so I searched for another

Shiki

yeah like that @JourneymanGeek

Bob

which is apparently too old

Shiki

I can take a pic of the case if you want

but it's not informative

A generic black metal Foxconn case without any extra stuff (no side fan, etc)

Bob

wait.

Shiki

let me check if I can find the model for you

Bob

11:06

wait a sec.

Intel High Definition Audio

Intel High Definition Audio (also called HD Audio or Azalia) refers to the specification released by Intel in 2004 for delivering high-definition audio that is capable of playing back more channels at higher quality than previous integrated audio codecs like AC'97. During development it had the codename "Azalia". Hardware based on Intel HD Audio specifications is capable of delivering 192-kHz 32-bit quality for two channels, and 96-kHz 32-bit for up to eight channels. However, , most audio hardware manufacturers do not implement the full high-end specification, especially 32-bit sampling...

Ok.

Journeyman Geek

ya, this obviously dosen't have the full set

Bob

@Shiki No idea what your MB means by NC, but the pinout I mentioned is almost definitely AC97

Shiki

Alright so basically even if I manage to put it together somehow, the sound quality will suffer

Journeyman Geek

oh, it will suck, horribly

Shiki

I'll just use the rear jack then.. I fixed the USB output already
(sound quality is a must :P)

Bob

11:08

@Shiki not really

Shiki

as I said I never bothered with the front connectors ...all dem cables man

Bob

AC97 isn't that bad

Shiki

holy hell.. all the Foxconn cases are made from cheap plastic nowadays (according to the site)

I can't even find anything similar

Bob

> AC'97 defines a high-quality, 16- or 20-bit audio architecture with surround sound support for the PC. AC'97 supports a 96 kHz sampling rate at 20-bit stereo resolution and a 48 kHz sampling rate at 20-bit stereo resolution for multichannel recording and playback. AC97 defines a maximum of 6 channels of analog audio output.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I was thinking the analogue side

Bob

11:09

@JourneymanGeek Hm?

Psycogeek

@Bob NC=No Connection. some of the web suggests doing crasy stuff with it, but of the MB manuel or (better) the PDF manuel for the MB (off the site after correction) says it is NC it probably is

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: you have a loose bunch of cables, with no real idea where they go, made by a OEM

;p

Bob

@Psycogeek Yea, the problem is, the specs for that type of connection pretty much require those pins to be connected.

I assumed no connection, but I don't see how that would even work

Journeyman Geek

shit, I am SURE I have seen that kind of connector before

PIV?

Bob

heh

my old cases are too old to have an audio connector :P

Journeyman Geek

11:11

&*blinks*

wait

Shiki

I bought the case with a Core2Quad inside

if that helps

Journeyman Geek

why are there + and - for headphones?

headphones are 3 wires

Shiki

(but the case could be old anyway)

not at Foxconn m8

Bob

@JourneymanGeek cause AC'97 specs

Journeyman Geek

@Bob:ahh

Bob

11:12

You have L and R with individual returns

Journeyman Geek

I might have a pure AC97 case here

Bob

though it's NC on this MB, which is... weird.

Journeyman Geek

one of the old perx knuckleshredders

Shiki

Alright alright, I'll just leave it as it is (I'll just buy a longer audio cable and that's it)

Journeyman Geek

sorry dude ;p

Shiki

11:14

ah I can leave with it... these connectors have been tucked away since I got the case

Journeyman Geek

If I run across anything that could help (or open up one of my old cases) I'll let you know

Bob

@Shiki I'm reasonably sure I got the pins right above, if you want to give that a shot :P

quality shouldn't be THAT bad

Shiki

what do you guys think about the warning ? that it could damage something?

Bob

that's known as CYA

Cover your ass

Cover your ass (CYA) or cover your own ass (CYOA) describes professional and organizational practices that serve to protect oneself from legal and administrative penalties, criticism, or other punitive measures. Common practices * Banking - compliance officers who may know that certain financial transactions are dubious, i.e., that money laundering and terrorist financing will inevitably occur regardless of the amount of regulatory structures put in place, but who comply with all the regulatory requirements, and thus absolve themselves from future liability. * Journalists - The term's use ...

Journeyman Geek

yup

oh hell, let me take a look at the knuckleshredder

Bob

11:16

knuckleshredder?

Shiki

Alright. So unless I go full-retard with the cable plugging, it should stay intact

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek I think you're going to far.

Journeyman Geek

old case ;p

Bob

@Shiki well, the risk is shorting something

but if the MB pinout isn't completely wrong..

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek Thumbs up for website. I knew it before but was nice remainder.

Bob

11:17

well, worst case it won't work cause there's a NC where a RET should be

Psycogeek

@Shiki what is the motherboard?

Shiki

X58A-UD3R

Bob

(assuming your follow the pins I listed above)

if you go plug into other random pins.. no clue.

Journeyman Geek

eh, no love there

standard AC 97 connector

Bob

O.O

my case has the header cables hot glued to connectors on a PCB

Shiki

11:18

@Bob I will only try the one listed... reboot is no fun (I just hate to sit in silence without music, that's the reason I spend time with this)

btw thanks for all the help/suggestions

Journeyman Geek

thats normal

Bob

@JourneymanGeek they're not fully plugged in

they're hot glued partially out... :S

Journeyman Geek

o0

Bob

(and the SATA one isn't even glued properly - it's fallen out)

Psycogeek

@Shiki it is the usual realtek audio

Bob

11:19

the USB one looks dodgiest. might explain why I was having trouble with USB power.

@Shiki ah. I abandoned front panel connections a while ago

my case sticks out enough that my either my knees die or the connector is bent

Psycogeek

@Shiki If you want to really screw things up plug a USB into a FIREWIRE :-) one is supposed to be powered, one certannly not. And they often have a very similar connection points.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek it's rather amusing, actually.

the glue on the SATA one

there's a big glob of glue on top of the male connector

Shiki

okay guys brb. have to dust out the computer. (it's choking in this 40C temperature)

Bob

...the female connector is open on top

Shiki

@Bob Does it look like an inside of a PSU?

Bob

11:21

so, whoever glued it, glued it to.. nothing?

@Shiki huh?

Shiki

AMD: add more cores
manufacturer: add more glue

well, the yellow stuff inside the PSU

Bob

@Shiki Oh yea.

Everything can be solved with more cores! Except single-threaded programs. Which makes up the vast majority of programs.

Shiki

all the Chieftec PSUs I used had yellow foam/glue all over (let me refrain from using any examples what it looked like). Now I used Google Image Search to find some images of it, but all the pictures show clean PSUs. wtf

ah yes, this is it:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/coolers/chieftec-psu-roundup/p5s.jpg

brb, dusting out the PC. (Linux would fry the Nvidia card anyway that I installed for now)

brb

Psycogeek

@Shiki the glue goes on the coils so they do not vibrate. it is a rather rude method. But it can work, to quiet the buzzing sounds.

Bob

@Shiki I took a photo of that stuff on my PSU a while ago

Boris_yo

11:29

@ThatBrazilianGuy Hohoho!

Psycogeek

The online manuel for that board was only a quick install guide, it doesnt even have the connector in it .

Bob

Jun 20 '12 at 12:16, by Bob

Incidentally, @JourneymanGeek was right. It did last over a year.

Journeyman Geek

it occationally also acts as a way to insulate live heatsinks from the case

Bob

Jun 20 '12 at 12:32, by Bob

@HaydnWVN Except there's a very large air gap between that and any other object :P

Wow. We really do just recycle conversations in this room.

Psycogeek

@Bob as long as everyone agrees :-)

Journeyman Geek

11:40

lol

Bob

O.O

dkriesel.com/en/blog/2013/…

Psycogeek

@Bob I agree, with that configurations it would be "same" for HD as AC, and no pins would be on power or problem areas. (yes it did take me that long, i got the rev2 manuel up, and it is 100% same as his picture).

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I used to run 20 dollar PSUs, lasted about 3-5 years ;p

Psycogeek

These connections chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/10673941#10673941

Shiki

12:00

Alright, back. Fixed the situation: Rotated the case so the back is now close enough for my headphone.

Journeyman Geek

lol

@Shiki: on a longer term, get a headphone extention cord?

they're only a few dollars

Einsteins Grandson

What reputation do I need to have to be allowed to post questions and chat in any of those 105 StackExchange websites?

3000?

300?

Psycogeek

@Bob After scanned ""I know that the resolution is not too fine, but the numbers are clearly readable."" no they are not, 3 pixels for a number isnt doing it. Dont be counterfeiting money with that res :-)

Einsteins Grandson

I mean.... achieving reputation of 300 or 3000 here in SuperUser...

Becasue I would need like 2000 years to gain reputation of 2000 at all those 105 websites individually

Journeyman Geek

lol

Psycogeek

12:09

@Bob That guy has made hisself perpetually nuts , over an interpolation of data, does he stop and think ? Raw Scan, into the photo program, do your own sharpening and stuff, watching the fine detail (if it is so bloody important), and then print the mess.

Journeyman Geek

as long as you have the rep on one site, you can chat for any site.

Einsteins Grandson

OK, how about asking questions?

Journeyman Geek

...

tried reading through the help pages? ;p

Einsteins Grandson

Like now I can't ask questions on ServerFalut....

Shiki

@JourneymanGeek Yeah of course. I had one, just my mom started using the other PC that been lying around for months, and now I have no cord. ;_;

Journeyman Geek

12:10

Oh thats different

Einsteins Grandson

Since they say I need rep of 20 over there

Journeyman Geek

you got suspended.

or the rules there are different

then, go get 20 rep ;p

Einsteins Grandson

That's what I am saying

Journeyman Geek

hm

superuser.com/help/privileges?tab=creation and serverfault.com/help/privileges?tab=creation look the same to me

Einsteins Grandson

It will take me 2000 years to pass all the requirements at each and every of those 105 websites

So, I thought that when I achieve some magical rep in here - SuperUser.. let's say 3000.... I will gain the freedom to do virtually anything in any of 105 websites

;-)

And will be able to sleep without nightmares eventually

;o)

Psycogeek

12:15

@EinsteinsGrandson How would that work? I might be able to answer a question here, but i could not even ask a good one at 105 sites. I would have to be faking it.

Einsteins Grandson

What do you mean @Psycogeek?

Psycogeek

@EinsteinsGrandson I mean everyone has a more favorite and to thier skill and liking site. Jack of all trades is master of none. (geez it always helps to add in english slang when your already not understood)

Einsteins Grandson

What if there is a SuperHero, Jack of all traders, Master of all who doesn't need to sleep and is learning new things 24 hours a day...

I'm just asking how it works...

If it's possible

Psycogeek

@EinsteinsGrandson As you learn, rep should start flowing in like a tidal wave.

Einsteins Grandson

I don't care about the reasons

Psycogeek

12:21

@EinsteinsGrandson No, your a Newbie on each site , with a bit of rep tossed in for having skill on one. But even with the 100rep points, the people in the know will still see a new person.

Einsteins Grandson

Or each and every of those 105 websites is an universe of itself and even when I have a rep of 9999999999999 on SuperUser, it doesn't change the fact that I need to fulfill the requirements of ServerFault as anybody else to be allowed to ask questions over there?

Psycogeek

You could always go to sites where each of the sub-locations are not as restrictive, and disconnected, and they still hand out "rep" thingies to people who assist others.

@EinsteinsGrandson They throw you a bone 100rep. If you were a super user expert, how would that make you a Stack Exchange Programmer? or a Server Fault Webmasters?

Einsteins Grandson

You're not a Networking Master or Programming Guru.... but you achieved the fucking rep of 9999999999999..... so there should be some reward for that!

Then, when I reach rep 20,000 on SuperUser.... I have no motivation to get more points , do I?

Psycogeek

@EinsteinsGrandson Even if you get frequent flyer miles that you can use on another airline, you still stand in line with everyone else :-)

Einsteins Grandson

Anything above 20,000 is useless

Psycogeek

12:27

If you buy a "superPass" for a transit system (bus train), you ride the same ride as everyone else?

Einsteins Grandson

So how about that bone of 100 they throw me?

I get +100 points in each and every of 105 websites when I achieve rep 300 at any of those 105 websites?

Psycogeek

@EinsteinsGrandson If you have 2000 or 3000? i forget on one site, then sign on to another, you get free rep for exisiting.

@EinsteinsGrandson WHY? what did you need this stuff for? Cant trade it for bitcoin :-) They dont make you the king of anything, you just end up with more work to do?

Einsteins Grandson

I just don't have 2000 years to fulfill all the requirements of each and every of 105 websites, so that I could freely chat and post questions on any of those 105 webistes

Psycogeek

@EinsteinsGrandson But there are 1 million web sites. And about 10,000 forums, and about 2500 that will do rep. So 105? you have barely begun?

Einsteins Grandson

For some reason, I need to ask questions at any of 105 websites at any random moment...

I am naive and believe this is the only good forum of all the other forums in the world

Psycogeek

12:34

@EinsteinsGrandson You do not need rep to do that?

Einsteins Grandson

I do

Or I don't need the rep. for what?

Fuck, I could have just ask that on Meta....

Would save tones of time

and get the answer

Even though they would crucify me over there like last time

;o)

Psycogeek

@EinsteinsGrandson at SU at least, any anonymous user can ask a question. If they ask it well, it will get a good answer (assuming anyone has a good answer).

Einsteins Grandson

Yes, but that's just SU

other 104 websites have different rules....more restrictive

Psycogeek

@EinsteinsGrandson Ohh, well then the thing to do is get in there and fix em, get 100rep and start being part of the community , and explain that they will never get out of area 51 if they want to be assholes

Einsteins Grandson

Shite

So what is the answer?

Psycogeek

12:40

@EinsteinsGrandson It is on the web? all the answers are on the web.

Einsteins Grandson

Yes

Psycogeek

Here's how it works:Anybody can ask a question
Anybody can answer

Which of these does not say that? stackexchange.com/sites#

Einsteins Grandson

I am so angry I will beat everybody I meet on the streets today

I need to go now

Psycogeek

@EinsteinsGrandson Well dont leave mad, just leave :-)

Einsteins Grandson

I have not been so mad in like 6 months!

Psycogeek

12:45

@EinsteinsGrandson then write up a really nasty diatribe , and get banned. then you will not have to worry about it.

Einsteins Grandson

i am leaving

will be back with my question in 5 hours

What reputation do I need to have on SuperUser to be allowed to post questions and chat in any of those 105 StackExchange websites?

Psycogeek

@EinsteinsGrandson That sounds like a good duplicate question for the meta :-)

11

A: It’s annoying and hypocritical that reputation is split between StackExchange sites.

Just because you may be a programming genius doesn't ALWAYS make you a Super User, Gaming, Cooking or any of the other Stack Exchange sites expert. In order to have the privileges that you have on Stack Overflow you have to earn them here, just as any other user would have to on any SE site. If...

A search reveals that you would not be the first person , or the 3rd or the 5th, to have believed that the system should work different.

If I think about it, i do not know if i would want to be Upstaged by Martha stewart, after she left Cooking , to come here and edit computer questions.

Shiki

13:02

wot

Gowtham

13:28

►

tf2 <3

Psycogeek

@Gowtham Ohhh am I in New York :-)

Gowtham

@Psycogeek ??

Psycogeek

@Gowtham The jersey accent insults.

Gowtham

@Psycogeek Ah, don't know about americano accents ;p

Gowtham

13:42

hmm my college uses an interesting login method which I have never seen before, I have a generated uname/password and I have to login via (another computer I think because in the log in to place in xp I give the name of my lab instaed of this computer)

And a local user is created during first login ...

And apparently I can log in to any computer on the campus using the same uname/password

Internet seems to be filtered via cyberoam.com

DNS requests go through tho ;p

o0 blog.reddit.com/2009/10/reddits-new-comment-sorting-system.html?

somequixotic

hi

@Gowtham welcome to Active Directory

Gowtham

@somequixotic Time to look it up \o/

Was waiting for the name ;p

Also it looks like some external provider has set up the network because my teachers have no idea how it works ;p

Also can Active Directory entries be synced across servers ?

57

Q: What is Active Directory and how does it work?

This is a Canonical Question about Active Directory. What is Active Directory? What does it do and how does it work? I find myself explaining some of what I assume is common knowledge about it almost daily. This question will, hopefully, serve as a canonical question and answer for most b...

okaythen ...

Time to download Windows Server 2003 :P :P ;p

somequixotic

13:57

@Gowtham no such product

there's Windows Server 2008 (based on Vista), 2008 R2 (based on Win7), and 2012 (based on Win8)

and Windows Server 2003, based on XP 64-bit

Gowtham

Yes that's the version used in my lab ;p

somequixotic

you aren't going to be able to join a windows server to the active directory and obtain any kind of control over it

you can try, but you'll just be denied, and probably get in a lot of trouble while doing it

Gowtham

Oh no, I am going to install it to my computer and figure out how it works ;p

@somequixotic I know the common Administrator password ;p

somequixotic

okay. messing around with IT infrastructure software is a good use of time, but attempting to compromise or exploit other peoples' production networks is very, very bad

Gowtham

@somequixotic I am not trying to exploit it @_@

Journeyman Geek

14:01

@EinsteinsGrandson: I have over 50K rep here. On SF, while I'm tolerated, I'm obviously not as skilled as the regulars. I have no chance in hell on ask different.

;p

I for one, wouldn't trust myself with super awesome powers anywhere I didn't earn it ;)

Gowtham

I am trying to figure out how it works :P :P

Gowtham

14:18

wat o0 theverge.com/2013/8/6/4595062/…

Psycogeek

14:31

Wow this is really disturbing. I just discovered that no mater which videos you click on at youTube, If you continue to pick from the list of similars on the right, the list will eventually have only cat/kitten videos in it. I am calling the phenomena The 6 degrees of seperation from cat videos.

2

Gowtham

o0

Journeyman Geek

... holy crap

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek Cute cats anomaly black hole phenomena. Because one you are in, you can't get out from cute cat world.

3

2

@Psycogeek Cute cats anomaly black hole phenomena. Because one you are in, you can't get out from cute cat world.

Journeyman Geek

I punched a guy off a bridge in sleeping dogs. I went down to find his body surrounded by people, including a paramedic saying the guy was dead.

somequixotic

lol

Boris_yo

14:39

@JourneymanGeek What reality construct were you in when did that? Sparring program?

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: read the statement again ;p

You MUST GO DEEPER

and actually see I was talking about sleeping dogs ;p

somequixotic

Sleeping Dogs (video game)

|genre = Action-adventure |modes = Single-player |platforms = Microsoft WindowsPlayStation 3Xbox 360Cloud (OnLive) |media = Optical disc, download, cloud gaming }} Sleeping Dogs is a 2012 open world action-adventure video game developed by United Front Games in conjunction with Square Enix London Studios and published by Square Enix, released on August 14, 2012, for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, and Xbox 360. Sleeping Dogs takes place in Hong Kong and focuses on an undercover operation to infiltrate the Triads. The game started development as an origina...

Journeyman Geek

yeah

somequixotic

I think that part helps him understand that it's a video game

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Hmmm redpill? I drank one yesterday.

Journeyman Geek

14:40

Its like someone took one of those hong kong action movies and turned it into a game.

Gowtham

@Boris_yo \o

Bibhas

Saw few gameplay videos from SD by Sathya. Looks really good.

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo then mabey you need a redBull this morning

Boris_yo

Oh I didn't know of this video game. Paramedic must have good AI to diagnose within a game...

somequixotic

@Boris_yo not really

actor.state = State.DEAD;

Boris_yo

14:42

@Gowtham Not sure I understand your emoticon... It's this all seeing eye?

somequixotic

if(actor.class == Class.PARAMEDIC && target.state == State.DEAD)
actor.yelp(Constants.HES_DEAD_JIM);

Boris_yo

@somequixotic I guess yelp does not have anything to do with yelp.com

Journeyman Geek

@somequixotic: lol

@Bibhas: it is

and the environments are brilliant

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek I think he took participation in game development.

Journeyman Geek

(you don't get ambulances when you JUST beat people to a pulp)

Boris_yo

14:46

@JourneymanGeek How is your running performance these days? Do you run on straight surface or curvy? Do you run everyday? Do you wear somekind of special running shoes?

Journeyman Geek

army issue running shoes, between once and trice a week, depending.

somequixotic

he might want to know what kind of skivvies you wear too, careful

Journeyman Geek

running is very mental tho

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek What do you mean mental? It's physical.

Journeyman Geek

Its mental

Boris_yo

14:51

@somequixotic Actually I wanted to know if he wears any rings or necklace that provides speed improvement. I would need +30 and preferably ring and will be happy. I am also willing to go through dungeon to obtain it if it's the only way.

@JourneymanGeek I probably don't understand it. I also run with music and turn off my brain which helps.

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: no magic shit.

Honestly? 3 times a week, and just keep working at it and you'll get somewhere

oh

and stretch

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Where you wanna get? You want to compete army obstacle courses that is required of you on yearly basis?

Journeyman Geek

lol

I want to lose a little weight so my ankles don't hurt ;p

lost about 3kg this round of training cause I switched centers

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Then watch out for carbs. When you busy you think less of food.

Journeyman Geek

lol

I don't each much

VERY regular

I don't snack at all

and when I do, its usually fruit

Boris_yo

14:56

Then you are not supposed to be overweight...

Journeyman Geek

and I walk like 3-4 km a day

not very overweight, but slightly over

I have ankle issues from when I was in the army proper

I have shitty joints,

Boris_yo

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