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9:01 PM
 
> I wish everyone could get that level of support.
Maybe they should start by contacting support :\
 
@OliverSalzburg Contacting Microsoft support is hard.
Hey uhm. I'm gonna need help.
Y'know how yesterday I found that my boot partition was randomly on my old, bad HDD? Well that's why I reinstalled today. I figured the reason it had put it there was that I had filled my SSD with partitions. So this time I left it a nice big amount of unallocated space. It put my boot partition on the old drive. Again.
So I'd like help in moving it, because visibly there's no way I'm gonna have it put the partition on the right drive.
Unless I open up my case, unplug all drives but the SSD and reinstall, but I,ve had my fill of reinstalls, really.
 
@Hennes Like this? amazon.com/dp/B004ZNA3UA
 
Nice pen drive. To bad it has USB3 (which I do not have).
 
@Ariane or just set the SSD as the #1 boot drive in the BIOS, but I digress....
@Ariane use a partition manager. on Ubuntu you can use gparted to move partitions
 
9:16 PM
@allquixotic The SSD is already "Drive 0".
 
@Ariane No, it's called C, not 0
 
@JimmyHoffa C is the parition, 0 is the drive.
@allquixotic Would using Ubuntu to move a Windows system reserved partition be risky?
 
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A: Are Random Generated Passwords Secure?

Stephen OstermillerI'm the author of the random password generating site http://passwordcreator.org. Here is what I learned in the process of creating that site about creating secure random passwords: Random Source Most random number generators on computers are psuedorandom. They are based on algorithms and not...

 
'Cause I can do that if it's the simple solution. I planned to install Ubuntu anyway.
 
@JimmyHoffa Drive 0 as Master?
 
9:19 PM
@Ariane convincing the OS to boot from that partition might be risky, I thought you meant it was the recovery partition
 
Nope, it's the 350 MB "System Reserved" partition.
Which is apparently important for start-up.
 
@Hennes Is there a way to add USB 3.0 to computer? Is there adapter?
 
@allquixotic See, these are the times that my comfort with the old school simple linux get's me in trouble as I am blisfully(read:stupidly) unafraid of dd
 
@Boris_yo I think you need to change the motherboard.
 
@Boris_yo You can get PCI-E boards, don't know that these would have the same transmission speed as on-board but it could be pretty great all the same.
 
9:21 PM
@Ariane How about adding USB 3.0 PCI board?
@JimmyHoffa Okay.
 
@Boris_yo Maybe. Don't know.
 
@Ariane that's the UEFI boot partition I think
 
@allquixotic UEFI being the BIOS? Just keep in mind it's created by Windows.
 
@JimmyHoffa PCI Express USB 3.0 addin cards work fine, there's no real difference in latency between that and a soldered-on USB 3.0 controller, because the PCI E bus is so low latency these days thanks to tech like QPI
 
9:23 PM
@Ariane no, the concept of "BIOS" is gone if you are booting a UEFI system. you have no BIOS. but UEFI fulfills a similar role.
depends on how you booted the windows CD and whether you have UEFI
 
@allquixotic I figure, but I really can't speak with authority about hardware stuff, ask me about liskov substitution, not about southbridges
 
@allquixotic I'm positive I have UEFI since on the boot splash screen there's a button for accessing it. But I'm pretty sure that this 350 MB system reserved partition has not changed my boot/BIOS/whatever screen and options.
 
@JimmyHoffa PCI used to be a shared bus that each device had to queue up in, like a single lane of traffic; now with PCI-E, each lane of the PCI-E bus gets its own dedicated path to the CPU with no shared queues or hardware bottlenecks where one device's I/O could impact another's, ensuring absolutely minimal latency
you may recall from the bad old days that things like heavy graphics could cause your sound to drop out, because everything shared the FSB
that can't happen anymore unless the CPU can't keep up on the software side
 
@allquixotic Ah, PCI doesn't go through the bridge anymore that tosses it onto the FSB?
 
@Ariane it doesn't change it... it's basically the boot loader that UEFI uses to load the operating system
@JimmyHoffa on Nehalem or newer hardware (Core i3/i5/i7 of any generation), there is no "FSB" -- it simply does not exist
 
9:27 PM
..............................Okay, spare me the details. xD Now how do I fix this?
 
it was replaced by QPI in Nehalem, and replaced again by the Platform Controller Hub (PCH) in Sandy Bridge
 
@allquixotic but...what if I have it jumpered for IRQ5 and DMA3 but my sound board is jumpered for IRQ7 and DMA3? then don't they need to context switch still??? :D
 
both are "point to point" interconnects
@JimmyHoffa IRQs are obsolete; the OS still uses them at the driver abstraction layer for programming purposes, but IRQs mean as much at the hardware level today as disk cylinders, heads and sectors
@Ariane I don't think you can sanely just move your EFI partition to another hard drive without breaking Windows, but you can try... worst case you have to reinstall again
 
@allquixotic c'mon now, I'm not that far behind the times, IRQs stopped mattering what ~10 years ago?
 
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-system/system-reserved-partition-on-a-wrong-hdd-possible/e1242cd4-3cb8-47b3-a72b-b92a7ecf1a47
@allquixotic Think this can work?
 
9:29 PM
also, the very concept of "northbridge" and "southbridge" is obsolete now :P
 
@allquixotic Ok that I wouldn't have guessed O_O
 
@Ariane that looks promising actually
The Platform Controller Hub (PCH) is a family of Intel microchips, introduced circa 2008. It is the successor to the previous Intel Hub Architecture, which used a northbridge and southbridge instead, and first appeared in the Intel 5 Series. The PCH controls certain data paths and support functions used in conjunction with Intel CPUs. These include clocking (the system clock), Flexible Display Interface (FDI) and Direct Media Interface (DMI), although FDI is only used when the chipset is required to support a processor with integrated graphics. As such, I/O Functions are reassigned betwee...
 
motherboards that don't have bridges...agh it sounds like chaos, next you're going to tell me the cases just act as a wireless quantum zone and motherboards have been replaced by a containment field based communication, tesla's wireless electricity has finally been rediscovered and now you just put a PSU inside the case, throw in the other parts and they all communicate wirelessly O_O
 
The Direct Media Interface (DMI) was the link between the northbridge and southbridge an on a computer motherboard. It was first used between the 9xx chipsets and the ICH6, released in 2004. Previous chipsets had used the Hub Interface to perform the same function. Server chipsets use a similar interface called Enterprise Southbridge Interface (ESI). DMI shares many characteristics with PCI-E, using multiple lanes and differential signaling to form a point-to-point link. Most implementations use a ×4 link, while some mobile systems (e.g. 915GMS, 945GMS/GSE/GU and the Atom N450) use a ...
 
9:33 PM
Wireless power or wireless energy transmission is the transmission of electrical energy from a power source to an electrical load without man-made conductors. Wireless transmission is useful in cases where interconnecting wires are inconvenient, hazardous, or impossible. The problem of wireless power transmission differs from that of wireless telecommunications, such as radio. In the latter, the proportion of energy received becomes critical only if it is too low for the signal to be distinguished from the background noise.  With wireless power, efficiency is the more significant...
In quantum computing, a qubit  or quantum bit is a unit of quantum information—the quantum analogue of the classical bit.  A qubit is a two-state quantum-mechanical system, such as the polarization of a single photon: here the two states are vertical polarization and horizontal polarization.  In a classical system, a bit would have to be in one state or the other, but quantum mechanics allows the qubit to be in a superposition of both states at the same time, a property which is fundamental to quantum computing. Bit versus qubit A bit is the basic unit of informat...
 
!!tell 11758945 no
 
@allquixotic Can you guide me as to how to create a system image? With how the vocabulary has changed in Windows 8 I'm even less sure (and to begin with I've never even created a system image).
 
@Ariane that basically means "take a backup"
 
@Ariane Pull out your phone, aim it at your system...
 
9:34 PM
which is, you know, optional
 
@allquixotic Remember that installing 8.1 requires a 4 GB download from the Windows Store. Pretty sure making an image of a clean installed system is gonna be faster.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media
Maybe this is a good solution.
 
@Ariane you don't have to re-download it
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Q: windows 8.1 upgrade download location

Ankitmy windows 8.1 upgrade is currently downloading via store. I have 2 laptops running windows 8 both of which i I am planning to upgrade. Since the upgrade requires downloading 3.6 GB, one such operation will take about 2 days with my internet plan. Is there any way I can use this downloaded IS...

 
o.o
Would've been nice to know that before downloading like 25 GB.
@allquixotic Uhm no, that folder is empty. xD I think it was extracted, used and deleted when I did the actual upgrade.
 
10:01 PM
> Thats an interesting word Parentheses. Sounds like a Greek hero of some mythology. Parentheses walked into the cave and slew the evil 21 eyed gorgon with his magic pencil sharpener.
 
@Boris_yo I could a cardbus (single lane PCI-e) to USB3, but since I do not have any UISB3 devices that would be rather expensive. And I can just use the pen drives eSATA port.
 
hey guys
maybe you will know
how long does it take to learn how to make iPhone apps?
;o))))))))))))))))
 
I don't get it. How ExpressCard can support USB 3.0 if revision 2 is not selling yet?
@Hennes Can CardBus reach 5Gbits?
 
@allquixotic LISP gets all the cool toys..
 
@EinsteinsGrandson Tip for your life: You're much less likely to be ignored WITHOUT retarded smileys.
 
10:05 PM
@allquixotic Fun read btw, scroll down and read the comic landoflisp.com
 
why do you not like my smileys? there is no offense in them!
 
@EinsteinsGrandson If the current state of app development is any indicator, no one knows yet.
 
@EinsteinsGrandson for you? infinity years
 
haha
c'mon it can't be that hard
 
@EinsteinsGrandson Your smiley is multi-mouthed, that's much of the problem.
 
10:07 PM
i am trying to learn many things at one time....
like unix/linux
databases
business intelligence
business analytics
business process management
 
@Boris_yo Cardbus speeds depend on your pCI-e version. Basically it is a smaller version of the old PCMCIA slot with two connectors: one USB, one PCI-e
 
german
french
statistics
business
 
And PCI-e comes in 2.5GBit/link / 5Gbit/link and 10Mbit/link versions
 
entrepeneurship
java
 
@EinsteinsGrandson What if I told you there was a secret, if you learned one thing you would already know all of those things
 
10:09 PM
So for a PCI-e v2 link it should reach 5GBit/sec
 
econometrics
 
@EinsteinsGrandson throw tensegrity in there while you're at it
 
@EinsteinsGrandson Don't write your stuff in a thousand messages. It's in the same category as multi-mouthed smileys.
 
networking
psychology
 
@Hennes That means PCI-e with 5Gbit will activate SuperSpeed USB 3.0 capability of ExpressCard?
 
10:11 PM
[Approve] [Next] [Approve] [Next] [Approve] [Next] oh. s l o w.
That must be another review question coming up. Lets reject it.
 
i also want to become pilot, film director, dentist, psychologist, hockey coach, diplomat before i die
 
Ok, rejected. Now lets see what the actual content was
 
so I am beginner in all of the mentioned fields.....
 
No idea. USB3 never held my interest since it is not useful.
At least, not for me.
 
I need to pick just ONE and become master in it
But which one?
I have been solving this problem for 5 years now
 
10:12 PM
@EinsteinsGrandson All of them.
 
It's not possible
I have no social life already
I have not had a vacation in 7 years!
 
@EinsteinsGrandson Sure it is, just learn tensegrity and become a warlock. You can do it! You have been chosen!
 
The sad thing is I actually typed this before reading any actual question content. It is that slow and thus that clear.
 
what is tensegrity?
and warlock?
 
@EinsteinsGrandson google's your friend, have fun.
 
10:13 PM
ok
 
Why no go for Nobel prize winner and war criminal ? (Do the Nobel prize for peace firtst).
 
Btw, I am supposed to find a billionaire.... who will be willing to buy a private jet for 8 million USD...
So I will have to talk to some of them
Have you ever had such an experince before?
They will send me to go fuck yourself very quickly
I need to prepare properly
It's gonna be fun I am sure....
I know only one personally... and know a brother of another one...
 
8 million USD..If I had that:
1) Split 1 mil between parents and sister. Fun for them.
2) Start a new firm in solar energy (I guess I am a green guy)
3) Build a house. 2 floor, 1 cellar, large garage. I got the whole house already planned
4) Start a new political party and get 20% of all votes within 2 or 3 elections.
 
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@EinsteinsGrandson You okay there?
 
10:18 PM
i am serious
i will let you know in few months what the result was
i am awlays serious
you think i am trolling but i am never trolling
i am always saying the truth
that's my biggest weakness!
 
All in favor of one hour suspension say aye.
 
I'm just joking :P
 
why would I lie?
 
But seeing as at least one of your messages was flagged, means that you are annoying someone in this room.
 
10:21 PM
ok, but i am just saying what bothers me really
 
From what I can see, your messages are hardly on-topic in this room, so I will ask you once to stop.
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
how about learning how to code iPhone apps?
 
@ChatBotJohnCavil Thank you.
@EinsteinsGrandson Hardly.
 
that's on-topic right?
it's not?
 
10:22 PM
Please read the Help Center to see what's on topic on this site.
 
anyway this is the only webiste of 108 StackExchange sites where people talk to me at all
that's why i am here
;o))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))‌​))))))))))))))))))))))
 
@MadaraUchiha honestly, we're rarely on topic here (I'm one of the most active contributors to the room) so waving the topicality card around is not really useful here (sorry!) -- that said, he'll eventually stop asking if no one attempts to help him with that particular question
 
@EinsteinsGrandson So basically.... you're here to troll.
 
no
to ask whatever i need to solve
 
@MadaraUchiha he's been tarred, feathered and HV'ed to death already -- he's our resident Root Access HV... we accept him as he is, warts and all, but that doesn't mean we have to answer trivial questions; we can just leave him hanging :)
 
10:25 PM
@EinsteinsGrandson About finding a billionaire that would buy a 8 million dollar jet.
 
don't know who would've flagged him though o.o
 
i have a list.... 100 of them who live in this country
100 billionaires
first i will have to get to them.... that's gonna be the hardest!
 
Wow mobile chat menu was updated
 
@OliverSalzburg Yeah, you can now clear mentions too!
(by clicking on them)
 
Neat!
I only noticed being able to see mentions on other rooms properly
 
10:34 PM
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@EinsteinsGrandson do you know what could do with WPA2 cracking if using FPGA platform ...could we use aircrack-ng in such a modified source to work with FPGA
 
Okay. I'm angry. Help. I created a system image, but then when I go to advanced startup to use it, it just can't find it.
 
@JF'rAMhrzz if you're smart enough to know what an FPGA is and what WPA2 is, you should be smart enough to figure this out on your own... nobody is going to help you crack into things, because it's very likely that you're attempting to obtain unauthorized access to someone else's network, and that's illegal. Do it yourself; don't bother us with it.
 
ok ok just to know the way to make it a faster way of crack !!
 
i have been solving this like 1 year ago... @JF'rAMhrzz
 
10:42 PM
@EinsteinsGrandson Sorcerer who practices sorcery and witchcraft.
 
but it would took me a long time to do it
no i am not a sorcerer
if i was.... the whole world would be different
no rich people
nor poor ...
 
@Ariane I don't know what "it just can't find it" means, or how to resolve that. My recommendation if you really insist on having your boot partition be on the same drive as the SSD, just reinstall. I know it's a pain, but I don't know of any other way. I don't really have the time available right now to try and troubleshoot any other, more arduous ways of doing it. Sorry.
 
everybody would have pretty much the same amount of money
and would only have to work 4 hours a month
 
so man plz i need to know if doing it with FPGA or not @Einsteins
 
and we would live in a futuristic world
I have no idea.....
 
10:44 PM
@JF'rAMhrzz You need to find undergorund communities that practice this. Here and other popular forums - forget it. I tried it twice and was banned given I wanted to learn something new and was curious.
 
Have you tried YouTube?
 
@allquixotic Well I boot, I do "restore systme image" and it says it can,t find any system image. I'm gonna try to put it on a bootable recovery USB stick, but considering that recimg told me the image HAD to be on a fixed drive when I tried to create it on my USB stick, I'm doubtful.
 
Use google
 
btw have you ever tryied GPS spoofing ?
 
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10:48 PM
@EinsteinsGrandson You have bi-polar disorder, right?
 
Does someone knows a wordpress theme which look like the superuser-theme?
 
@c0dev You don't want Q&A platform but theme that is adapted under it?
 
@Boris_yo yes. I mean for example with the same defaultpictures as here and the button-style etc. Yes, without the q&a
 
no I don't have a bi- polar disorder
Maybe i have
How can i know?
 
@EinsteinsGrandson you see your doctor, and if he thinks you migt then he refers you to a psychologist
 
10:52 PM
@Hennes To as well except when I need to do 120GB SSD drive backup. I don't have UPS at the moment and don't want to have coincidence of having power black out when backing up data. That's why I need USB 3.0
 
@Boris_yo if you have a blackout during backing up, you just restart the backup.
 
@EinsteinsGrandson Your behaviour patterns remind me of my behaviour. If you want to know about it, Google for bi-polar disorder.
 
a scary thing would be a blackout while resizing a partition.
 
@c0dev Then I suggest finding biggest WordPress theme community forums and asking there.
@barlop This is not critical thing, what is critical data loss and hard drive damage.
 
@Boris_yo That is why I wrote what I did isn't it
 
10:56 PM
Gaaaah, this is just so frustrating. I'm gonna freaking copy my system image on C:, on D: AND on an NTFS USB key on which I copied the "create a recovery drive" files and try to boot from that and see if at last the damned tool finally sees my system image. Uuuuuugh.
 
i definitely don't have bipolar
 
@Ariane are you whining? or trying to he helpful by providing some useful information? or asking a question?
 
but maybe i am the most emotional person on the planet
that can be true
 
@barlop Yeah, if progress is 50% you lose half of your capacity.
 
10:57 PM
@barlop Whining is a good way of describing it. Secretly hoping someone has help for me is another.
 
@Ariane Try not to whine. It's not intelligent.
 
@barlop But it relieves stress.
 
@Ariane no it just pushes it onto other people
You can whine to yourself.
 
@barlop Whining is against real man's codex :)
 
@Hennes ROBO-REVIEWER BASTARD! D:
 
10:59 PM
@Boris_yo women shouldn't do it either. Intelligent capable women don't.
 
If you think you might be able to help, the question is what I asked about 20 minutes ago: "I created a system image, but then when I go to advanced startup to use it, it just can't find it."
 
@barlop Like transferring negativity to others? Emotional vampire?
 
[Skip] [Next line] [skip] ...;-)
 
@barlop I am yet to meet many women to judge.
 
@Ariane that is totally unclear what you're talking about. "advanced setup" Advanced setup In What?!
 
11:00 PM
Eh.
That should've been startup.
 
What on earth is "advanced startup" supposed to mean
think about it , you're not talking in a technically clear way.
 
The Windows 8 function, advanced startup, which lets you refresh, reset, enter command line or restore a system image.
 
.
 
F8?
 
I don't think i've even used the windows 7 image option to restore an image..
i've used Macrium Reflect
 
11:01 PM
Sigh.
 
@EinsteinsGrandson Doesn't that bother your social life and career?
 
So you have an image file and you're trying to restore it to multiple partitions?
and the image file was created in windows 8?
 
No, just one partition is enough. But it doesn't see it. So I'm copying it on every single location I can think of because I'm desperate.
But yeah, 8.1.
 
So Windows 8 in the option to restore a partition, it can't see Any Partition at all?
so how are you copying it to every location if you can't see any?
what do you mean "location" again you're not technically clear.
 
Ehm.
Okay, lemme describe it in detail.
In Windows. Like, I boot in Windows normally. Using recimg (in the command prompt), I created a system image, CustomRefresh.wim. It's on D:\RefreshImage\CustomRefresh.wim. The file is there, and I see it in the file explorer. Then I go to Advanced startup, and ask to restore from a system image, and it tells me no system image was found. There is no option to browse. The only option I get is to tell it a network location if the refresh image is on a remote system.
 
11:07 PM
What is the precise error message it gives you word for word?
 
So then I returned to Windows, in a normal boot, and took my RefreshImage folder and moved it to C:\. Same result. So then I copied it back to D:\ and to F:\, a USB stick (on which I also copied the "create a recovery drive" boot files in hopes of booting from it and seeing if it can find my image), so I have it in three locations. And once the very long file copy to the USB stick is done, I'll try to boot from the USB stick. Here you go, @barlop
Ehm, I don't remember. But I can tell you soon (assuming it still doesn't work) because my USB stick is ready now.
 
ok, that's important
 
I'll be right back.
 
@Ariane Do you have question published here about your problem?
 
@Boris_yo No.
Okay, so @barlop I got the same result. Let me type you an approximate translation of the error message.
@barlop "Windows cannot find a system image on this computer. Plug in the backup hard drive or insert the final DVD of a backup set and click Retry. You can also close this dialog box to display more options."
Then the only option is Select a system image, which brings me to an empty list. Clicking on Advanced gives me the options Look for a system image on the network and Install a driver (for an external drive for which I wouldn't have the drivers and would have the driver files to make it work.)
 
11:21 PM
if you had typed the error message exactly instead of an approximate translation it'd help but anyway
do you understand the mportance of typing an error message exactly?
 
@barlop I assumed you didn't speak French.
 
it is because then you can find it on google
oh boy
don't you speak english?
 
I do but my computer doesn't.
 
such that you can use an English version of Windows
 
Yeah I can use an English version of Windows, but I don't want to.
And anyway the version I bought is in French.
 
11:22 PM
not a very smart buy
considering that from a technical support perspective, things are in English
 
Well my deepest apologies. >.>
 
apologize to yourself, but no need to tell me your apology to yourself.
it's like whining, it can be done in private.
 
@Mr.IDon'tCare Hello.
 
@Boris_yo Yo, wassup yo
Should I upgrade my Windows 7 laptop to Windows 8.1?
 
No, wait for windows 8.11
 
11:25 PM
@Ariane A post says this "If you used Backup and Restore from Windows 7, your system image will be stored in the WindowsImageBackup folder of your selected backup media. "
 
@Mr.IDon'tCare Better performance they say it brings...
 
though maybe windows 8 is different
 
@barlop I didn't use Backup and Restore from Windows 7. I used recimg, the official way to make an image in Windows 8+.
recimg being a command prompt command.
 
@Boris_yo But is it worth upgrading?
Also, does upgrading and downgrading operating systems put any pressure on the hardware or decrease the longevity of the computer?
 
@Mr.IDon'tCare I don't know and don't consider this until Windows 7 support is officially closed.
 
11:28 PM
@Ariane does this look any use? recimg.com
 
Kick I'll give up on the whole restore image deal, and try a risky method to move the damned system reserved partition. I'm seriously fed up.
 
recimgmanager
 
@Ariane what are you trying to do?
 
@barlop Mostly looks shady, and most importantly, useless because the problem is not creating an image but restoring it, which will necessarily happen from the advanced startup tool.
 
that program mentions restoring it
 
11:29 PM
@Mr.IDon'tCare This one is strange. I don't know why would it put pressure and decrease longevity of hardware but only one thing I assume; it may put junk on your hard drive, create compatibility errors and maybe even impact performance or fail with upgrades and downgrades.
 
@Mr.IDon'tCare Restore a custom system image, all that in hopes of NOT having my System reserved partition on my old, unreliable hard drive instead of my main SSD.
 
So basically, you're trying to restore an image you created without any problems?
And is this a Windows 7 System Image?
@Ariane ^
 
Yes, and no this has nothing to do with Windows 7 whatsoever.
 
@Ariane there's a link to regimg manager here softpedia.com/get/System/Back-Up-and-Recovery/…
it may be worth a try.
 
If its a Windows system image, then it must be created on some Windows version...
 
11:34 PM
I don't think it looks shady, not sure why you think so.
 
@Ariane You want to restore customized image without system reserved partition. This system reserved partition includes Windows OS and is served as system restore to start from scratch?
 
@barlop Yeah I decided to try it.
 
@Boris_yo what on earth does that mean?
@Boris_yo you just wrote.. "This system reserved partition includes Windows OS and is served as system restore to start from scratch?" what are you talking about?
 
@Mr.IDon'tCare Windows 8 of course.
Well 8.1
 
Its a Windows 8.1 image that you're trying to re-install/restore on your hard disk. So what's the problem?
 
11:36 PM
@barlop Nowadays laptops come with restore partition, correct? Partition which contains licensed OS so in case of data corruption or inability to boot, you can boot with this partition and start repair process or install OS from scratch. Correct?
 
Most of the time: Yes
 
@Boris_yo yeah probably, but not in the "System Reserved Partitition" which is about 100MB
 
And If the disk dies you loose that partition.
Win7's 100MB 'system reserved partition' is the same as /boot on Linux
 
helpdeskgeek.com/help-desk/… What is the System Reserved (100MB) Partition
That is not any kind of restoration partition
(whatever a restoration partition involves, it is not that).
 
You do not always need it/
 
11:39 PM
@Mr.IDon'tCare Ask that to the tool that said it couldn't find any image on my computer.
But anyway now I'm trying the manager thingie. Gonna create a whole new image and then I'll try to restore it. Hopefully it works this time because I'm seriously not in a good mood.
 
You can either:
1) Boot from the 'system reserved partition' (aka /boot) and then decrypt the C:-volume and continue booting from that.
2) Or delete it during setup and install everything in one single filesystem. (Bitlocker etc might not work if you do this)
 
@Ariane you don't ask tools.. in fact a tool is slang for a stupid person
 
@barlop I think you just clarified for me something. I need you to look on my Disk Manager and tell me whether I have this system reserved partition. Previously I thought it had to do with restore partition but it seems I was wrong.
 
Barlop, are you especially trying to mess with me or just in an extremely bad mood today?
 
@Ariane What operating system are you trying to restore the image from?
 
11:40 PM
@Mr.IDon'tCare 8.1. No OS other than Windows 8.1 was ever involved.
 
@Ariane I just recommended a program for you to use
 
So you're on Windows 8.1 trying to restore a 8.1 image?
 
@Ariane I think latter...
 
@barlop Yeah I'm trying it out right now.
@Mr.IDon'tCare Precisely.
 
@Boris_yo I don't think that's it, Looking at it on my comp A)it is at the beginning B)it is 100MB pretty much exactly 100MB. Yours is at the end and 150MB
 
11:42 PM
So what's the problem, as long as the image is on the hard disk (or an external hard disk that is connected? Not sure about that one), you should be able to restore it by using the "System Image Recovery" during the boot-up process.
 
@Boris_yo Your system reserved partition is probably BDFDrive, and was renamed that way for some unknown reaosn.
@Mr.IDon'tCare I don't know what the problem is, but the system image recovery thing doesn't find the image.
 
@Boris_yo i guess you could perhaps somehow look at it to make sure. see what files are there, I don't know much about the system reserved partition
but mine is exactly 100MB..and at the beginning.. so my guess is yours isn't.
 
Well mine is 350 and on a random tertiary hard drive. I think it can vary.
 
100Mb and at the beginning is the default for win7. Ariane is using win8
8.1 to be more precise
 
@Ariane does it just display a blank screen or give you some sort of message (error, "insert disc")?
 
11:44 PM
And 350MB sounds normal for windows 8, though I have no source to verify that
 
@Mr.IDon'tCare Yes, there's an error message. I wrote it earlier. Lemme quote it.
Windows cannot find a system image on this computer. Plug in the backup hard drive or insert the final DVD of a backup set and click Retry. You can also close this dialog box to display more options."
Then the only option is Select a system image, which brings me to an empty list. Clicking on Advanced gives me the options Look for a system image on the network and Install a driver (for an external drive for which I wouldn't have the drivers and would have the driver files to make it work.)
 
@Hennes boris has the thing at the end not ariane.
 
Ah
 
@Boris_yo indeed it isn't your system reserved partition
BDE drive - bitdrive partition, something to do with encryption
if you'd just googled the VOLUME LABEL then you'd have seen that Boris.
 
Well, where on disk it is (end, middle, beginning) does not matter. Just as long as your computer can boot from it (e.g. under 2TB when using MBR)
 
11:45 PM
But it's the Active partition. Normally the Active partition should be the system reserved one.
 
@ariane not sure if you have tried it, but this might be of some use:
 
But either way, a system reserved partition isn't absolutely essential.
@Mr.IDon'tCare Haven't tried it. But now i'm on another solution, so I'll try it if this one fails.
 
oh, this is fun to know. Apparently you can move the files afterward. (link is for win7)
 
Okay :)
 
Speaking of which the backup should be ready. I'll try it out. See you in a while.
"There was a problem setting the image. I just LOOOOVE it.
Maybe the software just sucks at restoring images and can actually create images that work better than my old one.
I'll try to restore it from advanced startup.
And if it won't work I'll try the solution from @Mr.IDon'tCare's link,
 
11:51 PM
@barlop @Hennes Here: imgur.com/a/WGfsf
@Ariane Are you migrating from HDD to SSD?
 
Barlop: Sorry, get blocked by the adblockers
 
@Hennes oh boy, you mean @boris_yo
 
Eh yes. /me blames some N'ice beer
 
@Boris_yo No I'm not migrating anything
 
11:57 PM
Okay, so. The image created by @barlop's suggested software wasn't found either. And @Mr.IDon'tCare's suggest commands weren't useful at all.
suggested/
 
Well did you go into repair mode?
 
@Mr.IDon'tCare Advanced Startup yeah. Windows 8's equivalent.
So.
Just gonna find a way to move the damned partition
 

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