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12:14 AM
@r.tanner.f: nice thing here. Its illegal to lock down phones
 
@JourneymanGeek I know. I wish it was like that here... Makes it hard to find used phones too. Getting locked in to a company sucks.
 
@r.tanner.f: eheh. At the moment we have a shitload of spares thanks tothat
we have.. lets see..
two army phones, two old nokia sliders, and a candybar with a broken sim card holder
(army phones = no camera)
current phone is a HTC One V, planning on using it through my two year contract, then upgrading to something newer, and using it as a little internet access device
 
this is what we get. everyone having to specify what vendor they have on their phone.
 
Isn't that just ridiculous? lol
 
12:21 AM
I can walk into a post office, or a 7-11 and buy a cheap off contract phone
(Still need ID for a prepaid simcard, so its not quite a burner)
 
12:32 AM
wait, so can you not get burner phones?
 
well, an essential part of a burner phone is an anonymous simcard
sim card's here are registered to the user apparently
its not like the UK where you can walk into a shop and buy a simcard, no questions asked for 20 quid
 
wow. all you need here is cash.
 
of course, I'm not a spy, or anything, and well, it makes sense for me to go post paid, almost ;p
/me might go prepaid if they muck up the good deal we have on data
 
12:58 AM
@JourneymanGeek That is exactly what a spy would say
 
@Paul: A good spy wouldn't say anything at all.
;)
/me is on a postpaid plan anyhow. I keep the old phone cause its easy to feed, and lasts for ages on a charge.
 
 
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2:23 AM
Oh. My consecutive days visited is over 365 now. Do I get a prize?
 
2:49 AM
@nhinkle may be you are going to rewarded with Fanatic badge :P
 
@avirk got that 265 days ago :P
 
@nhinkle lol then you have missed your prize now :P
@nhinkle are you using Win 8?
I have a problem with it as I installed it 2 days ago :\
 
@avirk on my desktop, yes. waiting to put it on my laptop 'til i get my SSD installed
 
@nhinkle aha! My dongle is not recognized by it so I'm unable to access the internet over that :(
 
@avirk probably the drivers just aren't out yet
 
2:53 AM
I tried Troubleshoot but didn't had a luck :(
@nhinkle yeah that's the reason but I thought that troubleshoot should had to help :
Win 8 Explorer UI sucks atm to me but let see if I started to like it, who knows :D
 
The best advice I can give is to check the manufacturer's websit efor new drivers
 
@nhinkle yeah I'm going to do this now thanks for the advice :)
 
@avirk: bit of chicken and egg, but if you had internet... windows 8 might autodownload drivers
 
C u later bye
@JourneymanGeek For that my dongle should have to recognize by it :)
 
hence me saying chicken and egg ;p
 
2:56 AM
@JourneymanGeek Oo
:P
 
(which comes first. You need a chicken to lay an egg. You need an egg to hatch a chicken)
 
Protochicken laid the egg
 
or that thing battlepug.com/2012/08/27/do-i-know-you (warning, good chunk of the other updates of that comic is slightly NFSW, in the entirely tasteful nudity sense)
 
 
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4:06 AM
Hi guys.
Can you guys help me choose a linux distro? I am sick of windows xp.
 
Hello
Yes, linux mint
Or ubuntu
@lamwaiman1988 Either of these are a good place to start if you aren't familiar with linux
 
I would like to retain most of my entertainment in windows such as video and music. Do they have good codec preloaded? I would like to play rmvb and avi and mp3 and mpeg
Given that the reason I quit windows is that it is slow ( windows xp ) because it install a lot of useless stuff for me, I think the distro should not be slower than xp
do they?
 
@lamwaiman1988 codecs are handled differently in linux - different media players will either use system codecs or will have their own. VLC can play pretty much anything.
 
I have bad experience using VLC in windows...
 
@lamwaiman1988 What specs does your machine have?
 
4:10 AM
it is sluggish and do not support many format I use
CPU: AMD Phenom II X3 710
Motherboard I forget the model, ASROCK
2 x DDR2 2Gb Ram ( it has a figure saying 800+ on it, I think, but I am not sure if it mean 800MHz)
Video Card : ATI HD4830
A 80+ PSU from taiwan ( ACBEL )
 
Seems pretty good. Were you using a recent version of vlc?
 
yeah
DL several months ago
 
what's " bad experience" like?
 
Some video it wont play saying it doesn't support
 
Your best bet is to get a livecd version of linux mint, this you can just boot on your PC without installing. Then you can test everything out, and see it all works as you need it to, try a few media players with your rmvb files and if it works out, then go for installation
 
4:15 AM
and the title character become junk character because it is not europian
 
@lamwaiman1988 "several months" is a long time in VLC development
there have been four updates in the past few months
 
hmmm there is no point arguing over a player.....after all do you think linux mint faster than xp?
 
@lamwaiman1988 Faster at what?
 
reponsiveness and boot time
In my win xp, it needs to load some stuff before I can manipulate in other activity.....anti virus, firewall, etc.
And I need to wait some minutes and I really hate that
 
Yeah sure, it will almost certainly boot faster and be more responsive, but whether this will be significant enough to encourage you to try running it as your primary OS is something only you can answer. If you use the livecd then you'll get a feel for this, but note that if you are running the cd off an actual cd (as opposed to a usb stick) this will be slower than when you have it installed.
You should look at dual-booting also so you can still use Windows when you have to
 
4:26 AM
I would like to preserve windows for gaming. I planned to format my hard drive because the windows xp in my pc has already been corrupted by useless windows software, should I install windows xp or 7?
I can't install Linux first because some site said that when you install windows later, it will erase the boot program for linux ( because it is so arrogant )
 
5:17 AM
@lamwaiman1988 Yeah, you have to be careful with Windows overwriting the boot sector. I find it easier to have two disks. Make one primary in bios, then install linux, then make the other primary and install Windows. Then you can switch back to linux, re-run grub (the boot sector menu application) and it will build a dual boot menu for you. Then if you ever need to run any Windows repairs, you can make the Windows hard disk primary, and it won't break linux
 
5:31 AM
@Paul I have 2 hard drives, both allocated to windows already. If I want to dual boot, do I need to make space for it? XP doesn't seems to have an option to free allocate space.
 
hmm
ugh, Anyone good with phones?
 
BTW, is it safe to do it when you have data in the drives? I don't have extra drives big enough to hold my media. Can I do it without thinking?
 
Dad's upgrading, one of the phone's i'm looking at runs gingerbread.. is it a scary enough thing to drop that from contention?
 
@lamwaiman1988 Yes, you'll need to make room for linux, it will want its own partition (preferably 2), and repartitioning is never safe where there is existing data (very often it works out fine, but you can't rely on it).
@JourneymanGeek What do you mean? GB isn't so bad.
 
@Paul: oh, looking at a sony with nice specs but runs GB. With my own phone, running android 4 was a priority
 
5:37 AM
Hmm. Interesting question. I wouldn't consider anything less than the latest for myself, but for a less technically inclined family member I think I would be happy to go GB.
 
hmm
Actually... never mind
 
2.3 is not much different from 4.......
4 just added some fancy stuff
 
/me found a phone that better matches his screensize/price optimisation
 
Bob
5:54 AM
@JourneymanGeek Is it that waterproof one? :P
 
lol
wierdly, yes
darn... I think we'll go to the shop and see. Dad isn't sure if he wants to change his plan
 
6:22 AM
@JourneymanGeek In times like these I am affraid to buy tablets, especially Google made ones because of privacy, location tracking and spying reasons of mysterious plan of illuminati.
 
 
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8:07 AM
> If you're a hopeful new patron, your stock release will be on Wednesday, August 29th at 4AM GMT -7 - BuyVM
cc @Paul
 
8:38 AM
dad ended up getting an ace 2 ;p
/me currently has a crapload of spare phones o0
 
winks
 
lol
your galaxy Y is better than the yari my dad had
 
lol fair point
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Damn, I really want a waterproof phone :P
 
lol
@Bob: take a regular phone, put it in a ziplock bag... ;p
 
Bob
8:42 AM
@JourneymanGeek Not responsive enough.. there's 'waterproof' cases, which have similar issues
 
@Bob: what are there tho?
there's a motorola, and a bunch of sonys
/me can't seem to find out what this damned thing runs
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek What?
 
lol
my dad's old phone
it vaguely works ;p
 
9:25 AM
hey all
@Bob 'JCB' do a range of 'work' mobes, some are waterproof
use several around here
 
@HaydnWVN Yo!
@HaydnWVN Is Windows 8 available?
 
@Boris_yo No idea, not looked recently as been away for a few days
It's not listed on my usual suppliers site (softcat)
 
9:44 AM
@OliverSalzburg Halloey!
@HaydnWVN @OliverSalzburg What is known to you guys about leaked Windowses? Is it bad idea other than in piracy terms to use such?
 
@Boris_yo Greetings :)
@Boris_yo I would only use them to play in a VM
Not a big fan of using beta (or worse) versions in production
 
@OliverSalzburg Currently there is "Consumer Preview Release". Does that mean it is still beta?
 
@Boris_yo Hard to say, but it's not a final. I installed the Windows 8 Consumer Preview on my laptop as well. But have already downgraded to 7 again.
It was just to play around. And, I believe, that's what these versions are made for in the first place :D Unless you have some serious testing to do
 
@OliverSalzburg Do you have tablet?
 
@Boris_yo No. I'm really excited about the Surface experience. But, I have to say, after using Windows 8 on my laptop, I'm not a fan of the whole Windows 8 thing.
It currently feels like a step back in many regards of my daily computer use.
But I also only used it on my laptop with a touchpad and single display. Don't know about desktop usability yet. But I'm not getting my hopes up :P
 
9:57 AM
@OliverSalzburg Planning on purchasing any tablet?
 
@Boris_yo No, I sit in front of my computer all day long anyway :D
 
@OliverSalzburg As people rely more on smartphones, Facebook, Google etc. I think this convenience will work against them in the end.
 
@Boris_yo Well, most people don't use their electronics, they just consume what is already there.
I like to produce things, and the best production you get on a smartphone or tablet these days is some faded polaroid in Instagram.
 
@OliverSalzburg What do you mean? It is through electronics that they consume.
 
@Boris_yo I mean people should work and be productive rather than hang on Facebook on their tablets :D
 
10:09 AM
@OliverSalzburg And using Dropbox isn't considered productive? How about watching HD movies?
 
@Boris_yo Depends on what you're using it for. But in itself, it isn't doing much, is it?
 
@OliverSalzburg Well if buying latest tablet for the sole purpose of using Facebook, watching YouTube, playing games I don't think it is a wise way to spend money.
 
@Boris_yo I don't really watch many movies, but when I do, I personally like to use my TV.
 
@OliverSalzburg I think television is dying for geeks...
 
@Boris_yo Yeah. I prefer on-demand :(
We recently got a new HD package and, I realized, I can't fast forward some channels.
 
10:12 AM
@OliverSalzburg But it will live for sheeple
 
They're trying to force you to watch all the garbage. What a....
 
@OliverSalzburg Why not? Is it in their interest to disallow you from doing that?
@OliverSalzburg Ah.... They are trying to control the content you are getting aye?
@OliverSalzburg They limit your freedom. They BRAINWASH you. They are ILLUMINATI!
 
Well, they want you to watch the commercials.
So you can't record and then just skip them.
 
@OliverSalzburg They disable your players recording functionality?!
 
I could make my peace with that. But also, if you want to rewind a bit, because you missed a part, you accidentally skip back 10 minutes. Now you have to watch the whole 10 minutes again, because, well, yeah
@Boris_yo No, you can record, just not fast forward. But this also applies to certain channels, which specifically asked for this limitation to be enabled.
 
10:16 AM
@OliverSalzburg A lot of intelligence insulting junk these days on television eh?
 
@Boris_yo Indeed
And they are like f-ing crack dealers with their HD channels
 
@OliverSalzburg Now I understand what critics mean by saying "Turn off your brain".
 
You can still record and fast forward the normal channels just fine. And noone is forcing you to buy the HD channels
 
@OliverSalzburg Crack dealers? Is this about behaviour? Sales pitches?
 
But it's HD!!! :D
@Boris_yo About selling you things you'll get addicted to, well knowing, that they can do everything with you once you are addicted.
 
10:20 AM
@OliverSalzburg Interesting... I usually never buy cracks. I use uTorrent to download them circumventing dealers.
 
@Boris_yo I didn't mean crack as in copy protection, I meant crack as in crack rocks ;D
 
Firefox 16 released yet?
 
wants to stab his dad's old phone.
 
lol
 
10:24 AM
there's a backup SOMEWHERE here
 
10:37 AM
currently has 3 phones, and two laptops, attempting to bloody export phone numbers from a phone...
 
source fone is...?
if it's any nokia, use the oldest version of 'Nokia Data Suite' you can find as most of the older versions have different export options... Even exporting as .CSV
 
its a sony ericsson yari
 
is it possible to restore wiped data from blackberry without backup?
 
ooh, I COULD shove in a working sim card and send it as a message
....
duh
I AM AN IDIOT
nope
 
10:59 AM
@JourneymanGeek Idiot or nope?
 
@JourneymanGeek Bluetooth them across?
 
Bob
114 tabs - 2.6 GB...
:(
@JourneymanGeek I normally just copy to the sim card, then copy back on the destination phone
doesn't work too well when you have more details than just a phone number, though.
 
@Bob: plain ol contacts. All mangled the heck up
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Well, transfer via sim is pretty standard and should work...
 
'should work' - didn't
 
Bob
11:12 AM
lol
 
It transfered SOME of the numbers, and just totally added shit all over the place
 
Bob
I assume there's too much to manually copy?
 
Lots of sim reader usb thingys you can get... But best bet is (hate to say it) probably firing up the actual SE software for it :P
and getting a data cable...
 
lol
no obvious option for it
hmm
could do it in a VM
need to find the naturally non standard cable for it
 
What phone is it?
 
11:24 AM
its a SE yaris
 
Ah, just found it in the log :D
 
oh, it has drivers in a fake USB thing
 
Interesting point - I'm noticing more and more 'speed issues' with oldish PC's and any kind of diagnosis reports nothing... Only real problem/info i've noticed is older PATA hard drives showing a SMART warning due to their age. Has anyone come across a diagnostic tool which monitors/reports Disk I/O usage within the OS so i could compare results between 2 identical PC's... 1 slow and the other 'fast-ish'? :)
 
old age can do that
hmm, I do remember one.. hdtune?
 
@JourneymanGeek Yeah i'm sure it's down to age, particually in a couple of the laptops (where they'll be 5400 rpm drives, so quite slow anyways)
 
11:29 AM
ya
 
i'll check out hdtune
 
/me grumbles
great, now i'm waiting on samsung to send me an e mail so i can eregister my dad's phone
WHY DO I NEED TO WAIT? ITS ALL COMPUTERS
 
@JourneymanGeek so getting the data off is tricky due to data cable/software... How about doing it the other way... Sync it's data to something like Gmail and then sync the new fone to that?
 
lol
the phone has no internet access
well, it might, but I can't get it to work with my simcard from another carrier with data
the only option that might work is SMSing 200 over contacts manually
trying the SE software now
 
11:44 AM
hm, it backs up the contacts in some wierd fashion, no obvious way to recover it
 
12:01 PM
@Sathya Yep thanks Sathya, saw the twitter announcement
 
12:14 PM
@JourneymanGeek what filetype?
 
@Paul cheers
 
.dbk
ugh, I got them over to google... I think
 
12:37 PM
Is anybody here using the Office 2013 Preview?
 
not much, but I have it
 
I've been using it for a month, but now the activation period has expired and I can't figure out how to do it.
I use Outlook and OneNote everyday, for years
I just signed up for another trial
 
/me headesks
I totally need to document this nightmare
hmm, did that help?
 
???
 
@HaydnWVN @OliverSalzburg @Bob : I got the contacts off the phone by setting up syncml with google in an entirely undocumented manner
 
12:51 PM
@JourneymanGeek :D
 
@paradroid: spent the last half a day metaphorically beating the crap out of my dad's old phone to get his contacts out
 
What phone is it?
 
@JourneymanGeek Nice, well done! :D
 
now I need to get it back in the phone
@paradroid: sony ericsson Yari
oh, the new one is a galaxy ace 2
 
It's a SE U110 maybe a U110i
 
12:54 PM
a U110i
@HaydnWVN: the information is out. its of no further use to me ;p
 
lol :P
 
so far the process has been, futz around with transferring contacts over bluetooth to 3 devices. Fail. Find that one of those devices has no BT at all.
install software off phone (yes. the damned phone has drivers built into a small bit of storage. Its the one saving grace of that pile of steaming cr**)
attempt backups, realise its no use. Hack together syncml settings off google's docs for other models. Upload to google, download csv (why is this not autosynced? Cat knows)
now I need to get the csv into the phone somehow
/me isn't sure how yet
 
ace2 should be easy
 
lol
I want to invent a time machine, and stab the grandfather of the person who wrote the OS for the yari, with the damned phone.
god, kies is taking ages to install
 
1:04 PM
@JourneymanGeek feel my pain.
 
was linked
 
oh yeah
 
@jokerdino: I would if it would install
 
@JourneymanGeek xD
 
@paradroid: got it out already. Now I either need to get the phone to sync (it isn't, cat knows why) or import the csv
 
1:06 PM
* claps hands and jumps around * CSV it! CSV it!
 
well, that its a csv is an improvement
 
What can happen if I bring 2mW wireless adapter to airport?
 
nothing
or everything crashes and you die
or they think you are a terrorist and give you the special treatment
 
@Boris_yo someone set us up the bomb
 
@HaydnWVN Where?
 
1:07 PM
What happen?
 
@Boris_yo old meme reference, nevermind :D
All your base are belong to us
 
@JourneymanGeek You mean 1 year of extended SquareTrade warranty?
 
@HaydnWVN lol counter strike
 
@HaydnWVN Over 9000+ is also meme?
 
@Boris_yo: special queue. Special treatment. They search you lovingly, every cavity.
2
 
1:08 PM
@jokerdino Not exactly. It is from old game.
@JourneymanGeek I prefer extended warranty.
 
....
lovely
I think i got it
in theory
 
Can planes fall down if I start using Wi-Fi spot there with 2mW adapter?
 
Does anybody know an example of one of those websites/blogs that has code samples, with the CSS making it look like a terminal, or one that has line numbers, or has a widegt for easy copying?
 
"All your base are belong to us" (often shortened to "All Your Base", "AYBABTU", or simply "AYB") is a broken English phrase that became an Internet phenomenon or meme. The text comes from the opening cutscene of the 1991 European Sega Mega Drive version of the video game Zero Wing by Toaplan, which was badly translated from the original Japanese version. The meme developed from this as the result of a GIF animation depicting the opening text which was initially popularized on the Something Awful message forums. Selected transcript {| class="wikitable" ! Original script!! English ve...
 
@Boris_yo Give it a shot ;)
 
1:10 PM
I have seen many, but I cannot find any examples right now.
 
@HaydnWVN Yea!
@OliverSalzburg I've seen 5mW adapters as well...
 
@OliverSalzburg Ah yeah, like that. Thanks.
 
@OliverSalzburg doesn't pastebin?
or one of those similar?
 
@HaydnWVN I assumed @paradroid wants the actual software
 
1:12 PM
@OliverSalzburg That's great. Just what I was looking for. It saves me having to hunt down how it is done and it has themes, so I'll probably find exactly what I want.
 
@paradroid I've been using it on my blog for quite a while. Works really well
 
@OliverSalzburg nice blog o.O
 
@jokerdino Thanks :)
 
Must be good to have on your CV, heh
 
@paradroid I usually don't reference by blog anywhere ;)
 
1:16 PM
You do flash stuff?
 
Oh wait, I do reference some articles on my Careers 2.0 profile :D
 
Who agrees this will make things better and allow more freedom and flexibility?
 
You do design stuff in Flash??
 
Well, I have a job right now...
@paradroid I did.
 
1:16 PM
I see
 
We did a lot of offline Flash stuff for terminals (like POS) at my old company.
 
I use ZNC as well
 
I love ZNC :)
 
I have done a bit of work on that project actualy
 
@paradroid What did you contribute?
 
1:18 PM
I have an updated script for autoinstalling in a chroot jail, but I have not perfected it enough to publish on the wiki
some stuff on the web interface
 
znc the irc client?
 
Oh, nice
Are you on the ZNC channel?
 
You know the guys on the #znc channel?
 
@Paul IRC bouncer
 
Does your Dropbox have two-factor authentication? Time to change that!
 
1:19 PM
Yeah, I used to be a while back. Not for a long time though
 
@paradroid Not personally, but I'm wondering who you might be :D
 
i downloaded Fedora ISO earlier using axel. My network blocks >50MB downloads through browser but doesn't block wget, aria2c and axel?!
 
I'm jason404 on IRC
 
Morning
 
@allquixotic Greetings
 
1:24 PM
ugh, for some reason I cannot access the google play store over wifi on this
 
@OliverSalzburg Can you choose a particular theme for an article, or are themes global?
 
@paradroid In the WordPress plugin, it's global to my knowledge.
 
Does it get automaticlaly used with a certain HTML tag, like <code> or something?
 
But for which language the syntax highlighting should be, that can always be adjusted of course.
 
Oh, it's a plugin. I see
 
1:27 PM
Well, the WordPress plugin is a wrapper around the SyntaxHighlighter I linked earlier.
 
Well, I'm not sure how it would work on a nonstandard language or something like Windows .reg files.
 
Cheers
 
Well, .reg is not supported by default, but I guess you could write an own brush. But I've never done that.
 
@OliverSalzburg You have to escape all right angle brackets ?
So what do I use for no syntax highlighting?
 
1:31 PM
@paradroid When using the <pre /> method. There's also a <script /> method
@paradroid The plain brush
 
It says that the <script> method causes problem with RSS, so not recommended for blogs
Cheers
 
@paradroid I actually don't know which method the WordPress plugin uses internally.
 
But you do not need to escape right angle brackets? It's handled by the plugin?
 
@paradroid There's also this one, which is quite popular: qbnz.com/highlighter
@paradroid I don't have to escape anything
2
 
For some reason, when I read "WordPress" in the context of administering a WordPress site, I let out a big, BIG yawn. Dang.
 
1:34 PM
@OliverSalzburg not even to escape the shackles of consumerism?
 
@HaydnWVN ;)
 
They're golden shackles, though. Have you seen the Nexus 7?!
 
heya, i am wondering if axel would continue a download if i interrupt it?
 
@OliverSalzburg That second one would be good, but copying from it seem to include the line numbers, which makes it really crap (at least on Chrome).
 
YES
... it didn't sync cause the time was wrong...
 
1:54 PM
>_>
 
Damn, just got a note that my Pi will be even later
 
@allquixotic A friends got one, not seen/used it yet... I've had hardly any hands on use of an Android device :(
 
hi guys
 
hey
 
2:05 PM
how do you get access back to forum you have been wrongfully banned from?
 
you don;t
 
@JourneymanGeek there are proxies to circumvent this. I know its IP is what identifies me.
 
o.O
 
@sparkubullet: Here's the thing. The punishment for ban circumvention is more banning.
 
@sparkubullet And it's not just the IP that's used as an identifier
 
2:08 PM
If they wrongfully banned you, you talk to an admin somehow, or realise any place that would wrongfully ban you dosen't deserve your patronage
Move on. Find cooler places.
 
@HaydnWVN What else?
@JourneymanGeek What if i don't get reply from him?
 
@sparkubullet I'm not an admin so no idea
 
Well then, they don't want you back
move on
 
@JourneymanGeek ah well their loss!
 
what forum are we talking about?
 
2:10 PM
PRECISELY
@jokerdino: turns out I didn't need kiles ;p
now has the software for apple,nokia, SE AND samsung on the share computer.
 
@JourneymanGeek ah lucky you
 
I should add HTC's sync, which I also don't use to it ;p
 
2:26 PM
@badp thanks for that link!
 
2:48 PM
but you don't have the Palm sync software, do you :D
i remember my Tungsten C
 
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