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12:33 AM
morning
@Mokubai I have that memorised
@r.tanner.f: If I could code, I would say its a trivial thing to do ;p
 
12:54 AM
@Sathya Ah garsh... thank you!
 
@r.tanner.f And the antenna to the wireless radio. ;p
would that even work?
remember the cellphone problem I was havign yesterday? lupinenet.com/doku.php?id=sony_ericsson_yari_contact_export it was this bloody simple ><
 
2:04 AM
@allquixotic: Oh yes, We have an old tungsten around here somewhere
 
@KronoS happy birthday dude :)
@JourneymanGeek morning :)
 
herro
 
2:20 AM
hello
 
at least all the current phones charge off micro USB
(other than the indiaphone, which uses an odd LG charger...)
 
@JourneymanGeek most of the latest models
Nokia didn't support that feature but now as well :P
 
my mom's e72 has both the nokia miniplug and USB charging ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek most of Nokia's phone didn't support that as its E series while N wasn't supported :P
 
2:59 AM
i want Micro USB 3.0 support on smartphones, so they can use more voltage and standardize it rather than needing specific wall warts to draw enough energy to charge the battery
 
Bob
3:11 AM
@allquixotic The port is rather large, though...
@JourneymanGeek Well, they are electrically compatible :P
 
3:22 AM
Micro USB 3.0 is large?
I didn't know that Micro USB 3.0 would be physically larger than 2.0, given that the full USB 3.0 port is the same size as USB 2.0
maybe that's because I've never actually seen a Micro USB 3.0 port though. maybe they don't exist! or maybe they exist but they're bigger
 
Bob
That's a Micro USB B 3.0 port
the right part is a standard Micro USB B (pre-3.0)
You can plug a 2.0 cable in there.
A 3.0 port and cable has the extra data lines, as seen on the left (with a GND in the middle).
Also, phones don't need nearly that much bandwidth...
The USB A 3.0 (host) connector has its data lines recessed, so it should work on standard USB 2.0 ports. Thing is, those lines often short on poorly designed ports, so it's usually more reliable to just grab a 2.0 cable to connect to a 3.0 port...
BRB, updating Firefox (hopefully so mem usage drops below 2GB)
 
lol
@allquixotic: usb 2.0 seems enough for most phones. Tablets could do with 3.0 maybe
 
Bob
ooh
Thunderbird 15 supports chat? IRC? XMPP? o.O Too bad I don't use those :P
@JourneymanGeek But what would you need 3.0 for?
 
3:37 AM
extra power, I guess.
 
Bob
Even in tablets...
 
USb 3.0 has higher power supply IIRC
and thats about it
 
Bob
I can see most motherboard manufacturers not limiting current draw, in which case the port on the phone won't make a difference.
And the USB charging ports provide much more power anyway, though they aren't too common.
 
there's supposed to be a draft USB 3.0 spec that supplies up to 5A
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Huh? All I saw was 900 mA (6 x 150 mA)
Oh.
> The Battery Charging Specification 1.2 of 2010 makes clear, that there are safety limits to the rated current at 5 A coming from USB 2.0. On the other hand several changes are made and limits are increasing including allowing 1.5 A on charging ports for unconfigured devices, allowing high speed communication while having a current up to 1.5 A and allowing a maximum current of 5 A.
 
3:48 AM
Anyone here know anything about enterprise networks?
 
Bob
Looking at the battery charging specs, there's nothing USB 3.0 specific about the 5A limit for charging ports..
 
I remember reading about it recentlyish
 
Bob
4:05 AM
5
Q: Is software from NCH Software safe?

MattI just downloaded Fling from them (an automatic ftp uploader) having been looking for a good app to do this for a long time. It just seems to good to be true to finally stumble across what looks to be a good piece of software. Here's their site: http://www.nchsoftware.com/ And more specifically...

I'm shocked it's not closed...
At least it was finally protected :P
Right up at the top are a couple of unsubstantiated claims. I mean, really? "ruined Audacity"?
 
4:38 AM
@Bob it has my close vote
 
5:09 AM
so true
 
or they'd use a BIOS password, full disk encryption, and encrypted memory :P
 
there's ways around a good chunk of those
 
seriously? there's "ways around" anything you can dream up
even if you owned the entire Pentagon by yourself and put your laptop in a secure safe in a top secret SCIF and nobody in the world knew of its existence and it was disconnected from the internet and the installation could survive 81 nuclear strikes by the Tsar Bomba, there would still be ways around gaining access to it
someone could drill through the earth from Russia and break through the floor and break the safe using an ADNR diamond saw and then proceed to brute force every password and encryption key until they had access to the data on the hard drive.... which would be something like "42"
 
5:27 AM
XD
 
Bob
@allquixotic I wouldn't classify blowing something up with 81 x 50 megatons of TNT worth of explosives as gaining access
:P
 
@Bob: I would call it 'breaking and entering, with an emphasis on breaking'
 
a much more interesting challenge is designing your digital life so that even if someone did gain physical access to your PC, that nothing valuable would be on it in the first place
 
@allquixotic: mine is like that ;p
anything important is, unfortunately, buried under a load of random junk ;)
 
I have nothing important... the best security is to have nothing worth taking unless it's out of pure malice
but most things that we think we need security for are things we place value on that someone would want to obtain for themselves due to some perceived advantage, not just because they want to be harmful to you for harm's own sake
take away those things or make them irrelevant and you don't have to spend your life worrying about building barriers between you and a hostile unknown
 
5:38 AM
Hmmmm changing wireless channel from 10 to 1 on router fixed the speed problem and disconnections...
 
lol, common... i answered a question about that on SU recently... probably saturation of a certain channel
anyway, bed
 
@allquixotic Scanning with inSSIDer didn't show channel 10 saturation as none of 7 APs were using it.
 
@Paul yes...
 
@Sathya What was your SSD failing experience? My expectation would be that you would get slow degradation rather than "failing" - unless the controller broke or something
It isn't like you get shrapnel like you do a hard disk :)
 
5:50 AM
@Paul it was a gradual degradation
 
How gradual?
 
the write speeds plummeted first, the read speeds then. Then BSODs
@Paul I'd say about 2-3 months?
 
Was it old, or manufacturing bad luck?
 
@Paul it was Kingston's first gen SSD
so I'd say manufacturing bad luck?
have to say the SSD lasted for about ~14-15 months, and I'd never shutdown my laptop, except for the rare occasion when I'm travelling
 
@Sathya Ok cool. I might tell my machine to rsync the ssd contents to my hd. This is one of the Intel 330s, but I guess with SSDs we don't yet know the range of warning signs. At least with hds you might get an increase in bad sectors prior to a failure, and all the SMART stuff (unless it just fails catastrophically).
 
6:03 AM
@Paul yeah that's a good idea. Even with telltale warnings of a failing drive - low speeds, BSODs (Windows kept complaining about drive getting "disconnected" during data transfer) nearly all SSD toolbox programs insisted on mentioning the drive was A-ok. That might boil down to firmware not being up-to-the-mark though
 
@Paul This is my first:
 
@Sathya Are you running Windows on that laptop? I expect Windows (or OSes in generally really) are not too concerned with writing to the disk frequently.
@Boris_yo Yeah thats what I have
 
@Paul No, you have Crucial M4
 
@Paul yes, Windows 7. No bitlocker/truecrypt etc
 
@Boris_yo Nope, it is that exact drive. I have my main linux install on there, a Windows partition where I install stuff that I want to be quick, and a readyboost cache partition
My main Windows is still on HD because it was too much hassle to move it without reinstalling
 
6:07 AM
@Paul But Intel is very reliable if not most reliable among all.
@Paul What Windows is it?
 
@Boris_yo Yeah, the 330 range comes with both price and reliability positiveness
Windows 7
 
@Paul What firmware is it?
 
On the intel? No idea, should I?
 
@Paul What can be a hassle mate? Windows 7 does not need to be aligned like previous Windowses.
@Paul Having a correct firmware is very important.
 
@Boris_yo I moved the partition on to the new drive, booted it, and it didn't work. BSOD or something. So I gave up, and given the small size of the disk, I decided Windows itself would be a waste. I work in linux and play in Windows, so it was more important to have games fast than Windows itself. So a partition for whatever games I am into at the time, and readyboost to help Windows in general
 
6:12 AM
And Crucial M4 models are very good by the way, if not better than Intel 330s. @Paul
@Paul So you left Windows on HDD and moved Linux along with games to SSD?
 
@Boris_yo Yeah
 
Bob
6:27 AM
Sigh... time to dig up a receipt from several months ago. I'll probably find it next year :P
 
@Paul Why BSODs I don't know... Weird. Did you use Intel ToolBox for migration?
 
@Boris_yo nope, just did my own thing. But I didn't try too hard, I changed my mind pretty quickly
 
6:47 AM
@Paul I am worried because usually it should work and I am trying to do same in my situation without reinstalling Windows 7 again since returning everything to current condition will take more than 1 day. Migration is of crucial importance and what good is that there is no need to align partitions.
 
@Boris_yo Yeah, well perhaps the migration tool will work - like I said, I didn't try very hard. With linux it is so easy to move stuff around, as soon as it didn't work for Windows I became absolutely certain it wasn't worth my time to investigate.
 
@Paul But if you use Windows 7 to play video games then it must reside on same partition as games for best speed. Otherwise you lose on slow swap file access.
 
@Boris_yo I don't see how that would be the case
 
7:51 AM
hello any body is online there
please help me
 
Bob
@monicabubna Hm?
 
you have any networking knowledge
@Bob
 
Bob
@monicabubna Some. Could you be more specific?
 
i have issue in networking ...
there is A machine which IP is 192.168.1.97 not able to ping by B machine in the network and A machine is able to ping other System IP like 192.168.1.96 ,192.168.1.95 and so on
A machine IP is which is 192.168.1.97 is in the network and pinging by company server also and 192.168.1.97 is static IP not dynamic IP
@bob
 
Bob
@monicabubna So.. Can other machines ping it?
 
7:55 AM
@bob A system ip is not ping by other system
in my network
 
Bob
First, make sure there is no firewall running.
 
i check my system firewall that's window firewall is off
 
Bob
That includes "internet security" programs
 
ok
but their is norton antivirus in my system
which may applying firewall
 
Bob
Norton Antivirus? Or Norton Internet Security, Norton 360, something like that?
 
7:58 AM
Norton Internet Security
 
Bob
That's probably it. I've had it block ICMP (ping) response before.
 
Bob
To check, just disable "Intrusion Prevention" and "Smart Firewall" on the destination machine for now, and try pinging again. If it works, we can add an exception.
 
sir i disable my norton but still the problem is there
 
Bob
@monicabubna What exactly is the message?
"Destination host unreachable."?
 
8:05 AM
sir i did the same as you say "o check, just disable "Intrusion Prevention" and "Smart Firewall" on the destination machine for now, and try pinging again"
now the system is pinging
now
 
Bob
Ok. I assume you need to be able to ping in future?
 
but i don't want to disable both of them
 
Bob
Just have to change the settings to allow inbound ICMP (ping).
 
please explain the settings
 
Bob
Go to your Norton settings, Network tab, Smart Firewall on the left, Advanced Settings
Then go to General Rules
 
8:10 AM
ok
then
 
Bob
Add a new rule
 
where from the rule will be addeds
 
Bob
Allow => Connections from => Any computer in the local subnet => ICMP in the dropdown => then finish it
 
*added
 
Bob
Then select your new rule and move it up to the top.
 
8:13 AM
sir i m nit able to find allow button or tab where its
 
Bob
 
i reach at the last pic
but not able to find these settings Allow => Connections from => Any computer in the local subnet => ICMP in the dropdown => then finish it
 
Bob
@monicabubna "=>" means click next
Have you added the rule?
 
Bob
Then move it up to the top of the list.
 
8:20 AM
its asking that what type of connection do you what to allow
 
Bob
Just allow all types...
 
sir how to insert any image in that chat
 
Bob
@monicabubna Back.
 
ok
its showing 1) connection to other computers
 
@monicabubna DON'T SHOUT. If someone's here, they'll reply.
 
8:27 AM
2)connection from other computer
 
Bob
@monicabubna Select connections from
 
ok
@bob
@bobi came to add rule page
 
Bob
Any computer in the local subnet => ICMP in the dropdown
 
hey guys, need some help with windows movie maker
 
so, is it encouraged to write a question and then answer it to myself? I'm considering writing about this: forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1289453 I can't seem to find the question on superuser.com
 
Bob
8:30 AM
@jokerdino Would that be the Live version, or the good one? :P
 
he is editing a video and half the thing is in green.
 
Bob
@klyonrad If you phrase it as a question anyone else can answer (i.e. all necessary information included), sure!
 
@Bob whatever that came with vista.
i have the live one
 
@bob after clicking on local subnet i will click next rit
 
still can't imagine that no one on superuser.com asked for Preview.app alternatives on OS X though...
 
Bob
8:32 AM
@monicabubna Yes.
 
@bob
Any computer in the local subnet => ICMP in the dropdown i have done this
then
 
Bob
@klyonrad We generally don't like questions asking for software recommendations...
 
ah yeah, right...
 
Bob
@monicabubna next, next, finish
You can choose any name you like.
 
I thought about phrasing it "more satisfying way to quickly view multiple images"
 
Bob
8:33 AM
16
Q: How do I ask a question that may require recommending software?

KronoSNote: This is for reference to point users who ask questions that will incite recommending software. I DO NOT advocate users asking for software recommendations, however there are times that a question requires the recommendation of a piece of software. If you're looking to answer a question tha...

 
@bob i done
 
Bob
@monicabubna Select the new rule and Move Up to the top.
 
@Bob yeah; read that last week :)
 
@bob more setting are still left
 
Bob
@monicabubna ?
Just move the new rule right up to the top of the list.
 
8:36 AM
ah what the hell; it's not even a problem. The macrumors forum thread comes up quickly on google
 
@bob now i not getting u
@bob i add the rule
 
then on which page i move now
ok
i did
@bob
then
 
Bob
@monicabubna Click on OK
 
ok
i did
 
Bob
8:41 AM
Then you can go back and enable your firewall/intrusion prevention again
and try pinging again
 
@Bob How much do you charge for SU chat support and problem solving ;) ? What are your accepted methods of payment? What credit cards do you accept? Do you accept PayPal? What is your refund policy?
 
Bob
@Boris_yo Hm? What do you mean??
@Boris_yo N/A
 
@bob thanks
alot now its working
really
 
Bob
@monicabubna You're welcome :)
 
8:47 AM
I like how Hotmail is now looking visually. It remindes me of Windows 7 animated windows when Win+Tab.
 
9:07 AM
techcrunch.com/2012/08/28/… this is plain awesome :)
 
yeah
 
@JourneymanGeek @Sathya Hello guys. How do you like this SGIII?
@Gnoupi Hello.
 
Obviously you can't make a bad click in the review queue, no way to change it after :P
 
@Boris_yo: The very fact that a company reaches out to a fan is cool
 
@JourneymanGeek Was this done before by others?
 
9:12 AM
phones, donno. My dad has an Ace 2. I like my HTC's implementation of android better tho
@Boris_yo: I have no idea of the context of it ;p
 
haven't used it
 
My brother wants one, I'll let you know if/when he gets it ;p
(amusingly, dad has a smartphone with no data plan. He's convinced he won't use it)
 
The sole privacy and humanity control thing scares me about using Android based devices. Something tells me Apple doesn't have vicious plans and won't do bad things to its customers.
 
@Boris_yo: No one's stopping you from getting an iphone
 
@JourneymanGeek I love your new avatar :) It's like the happiest dog ever
 
9:15 AM
no one's... oh wait. Apple is sueing most of the large android OEMs
 
@Boris_yo ... unless they can make money from it without losing customers?
 
@JourneymanGeek I implied that I want to verify my concerns with others.
 
@OliverSalzburg: XD. He's listening to my mom singing
@Boris_yo: I primarily have an android for technical/price reasons
its cheaper than an iphone, and has a wider ecosystem than Windows mobile.
 
@JourneymanGeek With convenience comes price.
I am concerned about conspiracy.
 
@Boris_yo: If i didn't want google tracking me, my spare phone is a nokia.
 
9:17 AM
Damn. I was thinking of a major code optimization before falling asleep yesterday. And now I can't remember it O__o
 
@Boris_yo: I hate to tell you this
There's cameras everywhere
They can track every card transaction. Every bus ride if you don't pay cash
BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU
 
@OliverSalzburg Did you try visiting geek hypnosist?
 
and I haven't even gotten started on chemtrails and satellites
 
@Boris_yo I bet it will remember it later, and it will turn out to be no improvement at all :D
 
@JourneymanGeek Who is big brother?
 
9:19 AM
@Boris_yo: Big Brother is watching you
He is THE MAN
 
@JourneymanGeek Who?
 
HIM
HE THAT IS WATCHING YOU
 
@JourneymanGeek Affraid aren't ye? So affraid that you can't tell me who is he?
 
nope
cause he's watching you, not me.
nope. He's Big Brother
Thats who he is.
 
@JourneymanGeek Are you part of his plans? Are you pawn in this game?
 
9:21 AM
@Boris_yo: See, thats the beauty of it
We all are!
 
@JourneymanGeek I want the name of drug dealer of the house please. Names, numbers and I want them now!
@JourneymanGeek It's Morpheus, is it?
 
@Boris_yo: dude. Who needs drugs?
THIS IS REALITY MAN.
/me wanders off and looks for his screwdrivers
 
@JourneymanGeek Are you sure the food you consume is safe? Are you sure FDA approved isn't hypocrisy?
 
FDA? pfft.
 
@JourneymanGeek What?
@JourneymanGeek He needs:
Chemtrails? What are they for as a byproduct of H.A.A.R.P?
 
Bob
9:26 AM
@JourneymanGeek Typical Apple :P
...is OS X supposed to be pronounced "OS Ten"? o.O
 
@Bob Yes
 
Bob
...
 
9:46 AM
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/08/samsung-start-menu-app-shows-why-microsoft-is-going-its-own-way-with-surface/
OMG
 
@DanielBeck Sweet :D
 
Bob
> such as OS X-style Dock knock-offs
cough Dell cough
 
@DanielBeck: actually dosen't hurt. I talked a few people through switching windows 7 from the label-less taskbar to the labeled ones
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Does Windows 8 still provide that option?
A whole role of identical icons isn't the most helpful thing :P
 
10:02 AM
@JourneymanGeek Pretty sure they wouldn't if they'd sell phones with the Blackberry knockoff UI of early Android prototypes.
 
@Bob So, collapse to single icon and show the titles on hover.
@Bob Oh well, it's good to have options :) rammichael.com/7-taskbar-tweaker
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg Hover? You mean I have to reach for the mouse?!
Actually, I often just look at the taskbar to check if something's open :P
 
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