Root Access

6:00 PM

I'm actually campaigning to go from connecting to shared Linux machines using NX to dual-booting my workstation with Linux (right now, it's XP). My supervisor thought it'd be a good idea, but the only question is when to do it, since we're very busy and don't want to cut into my work on our project :P

allquixotic

There's also something nice, as a software developer, about being able to maintain your own fork of an open source library if you think you need to use an existing library but build on it in a very significant (perhaps diverging) way. You may or may not have to publish your code per the license, but either way, it's probably cheaper than starting from scratch.

There are some things where you can just use the library you're given and hack around any limitations and still produce a fine product. No problem. But also many times when modifying the underlying libraries to do what you want could be a huge boost and reduction in complexity

sidran32

Yup. I actually had to do that. I was trying to port my old raytracer project from college to Visual Studio. I used the FOSS pngwriter library, so I had to install a few open-source libraries on my Windows computer. Mostly wasn't a problem, but the latest version of one of them wouldn't compile with the other libraries, so I had to go in and patch it. Got it working that way. I like having that option.

allquixotic

Sometimes the upstream will want your changes; sometimes they won't. But having that choice (should I publish my code or not? should I attempt to upstream it or not? etc.) opens up an entirely new world.

sidran32

It was zlib or something like that, I think.

Don't think I published it though. But it was a simple fix.

allquixotic

The other thing I would do a lot more often if more things were open source is, I'd recompile binaries to work with new platforms. Simple example: highly moddable, 32-bit-only games that frequently run out of virtual address space due to the 4GB limit. I'd totally do what's necessary to make a 64-bit build.

And hey, I might still want to enjoy those vintage games in 2025 when the Win32 API is long gone, analogous to how "gone" MS-DOS or Win16 is today. Could I do that on Windows 12 with closed source games? Nope. Could I do it with an open source game? Yep.

sidran32

6:05 PM

Though you do still get neat projects like DosBOX which emulates DOS pretty dang well (well enough to even run Windows 3.11). Which can also come from the FOSS community.

Even things like ReactOS.

allquixotic

Virtualization to the rescue :-/ Although it still can't take care of extending the 32-bit virtual address space, without a recompile from source (to understand which 32-bit integers are addresses and which are data, for instance)

Huge, huge limitation for games like Skyrim and Sins of a Solar Empire.

Know what the developers say when people request 64-bit? "Not enough users run 64-bit OS for it to be worth it to us".

Knock. Teeth. In. Now.

sidran32

Wait, Bethesda said that?

That might have been true.... 5 years ago.

allquixotic

Stardock did. Bethesda may not have said that verbatim, but it was extremely hard to convince them even to release a patch enabling LAA by default. Their answer to 64-bit was "no way".

sidran32

Heh.

allquixotic

It's funny because Microsoft kind of wedged themselves in with a few popular game developers for a few years during the formative days of the 64-bit platform, and convinced them to release dual 32/64 builds of some games. But that practice seems to have regressed, rather than moving forward.

Hellgate: London (a failed product) was dual 32/64. Brand new, AAA games are not.

sidran32

6:10 PM

That's crazy. But then, I only use ObjectDesktop from Stardock. I think there's 64-bit versions of those programs, so it must be the game studio in there that said that.

allquixotic

Stardock's desktop software div is completely separate from their game div

sidran32

Yeah.

allquixotic

It's why I wish most developers would just settle on an open source core engine and write extensions in a fast interpreted language like Lua, and let people compile custom binaries of the engine as long as the APIs are backwards compatible

That way, even 8-10 years after the developer stops updating their game with official patches, you could grab the latest stable maintenance release of that series of API-compatible version of the engine, and fix bugs in your ancient game or compile it for a new platform.

The big companies really should stop playing "trade secret" with the game engines and just settle on one shared "community effort" of a AAA game engine, and include everything but the content. When you sell a game, you sell the content. When you develop a game, your cost center includes, partially, the cost of "co-maintaining" the shared infrastructure.

sidran32

That's actually what makes Rainmeter awesome. I actually was going to update one of their monitor DLLs at some point but never got to do that...

Kinda forgot. >.>

allquixotic

It'd be like web browsers in a way, if game companies did that.

It'd also make games extremely portable to other platforms.

sidran32

6:13 PM

Well, there is one FOSS success story in Nexuiz. :P

allquixotic

Yeah, I mean there are a number of good game engines out there in the open source world. The problem is that big developers don't use them.

Plenty of "good" engines that could be made "great" with the co-sponsorship of only two or three of the really big game studios.

Probably the end result would be better than any one company could do alone.

sidran32

Nexuiz is one of my favorite FOSS games. Unfortunately, there aren't many that are of comparable quality.

allquixotic

More platform independent, faster, better architecture, fewer bugs.

I think of things like ScummVM and Ren'py. They aren't AAA game engines, but they're good for visual novel / adventuring type games. The beauty is that you can copy the game assets to another implementation of the engine (on a new platform) and it "just works". I want that for visually-rich 3d games.

Can't tell you how many Ren'py visual novels I've played which were originally released only for Windows. A few exe extraction tools, cp and python and a download of the ren'py source.... done

Man, I really want electronics-shopping.stackexchange.com (cf. my barbie gravatar from that SE blog post about shopping-rec)

I need to ask some questions about Wilson Electronics LTE antennas

but I doubt anyone in here knows about them

sidran32

Sorry :P

Um

There's an electronics.stackexchange.com. But I don't think they like shopping questions on there either. :P Could try their chat though. I bet they might have something there.

allquixotic

I see the link to the SE site... now where is their chat?

sidran32

6:23 PM

The "chat" link is up on the top bar. I don't know the name of their chat room though.

Never actually went there. I only assume they have one.

Ah, here: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/15/electrical-engineering

allquixotic

found it

sidran32

I can see :P

Luke

sidran32

6:56 PM

@allquixotic So, I assume it was helpful over there?

allquixotic

@sidran32 Yeah, they convinced me that if I want to get looks from coworkers then I should build aluminum rabbit ears. If I want something that works and looks cool, I should buy the 4G-V.

Funny because they didn't talk about the social aspect at all but by talking to them about it I realized what I need to do.

/me orders it

sidran32

@allquixotic Haha. :)

Well, they're electronics engineers. Engineers rarely care about looks. :P

Heck, I asked about how to drive a 12V light off a 3.3V LED output on my motherboard. One person told me how he once drove a 250W halogen lamp off his HDD light indicator on his motherboard. :P

I totally get that kind of mentality :P

allquixotic

@sidran32 Yeah, I love that kind of person. It's great to have them around. You know, the same way people flock around me once they realize I know everything about how to build a great desktop, or write code against GStreamer, or... (a few other things)

sidran32

Hehe

allquixotic

Special-generalists who know a lot about many things and even more about a few things... whenever the things they know a ton about are things I know little about, they're my friend

sidran32

7:03 PM

:)

allquixotic

woot >6000 rep

no new privileges though

Einsteins Grandson

anybody here?

a friend of mine uses Windows 7 64bit and VMware player

allquixotic

@EinsteinsGrandson Meep

Keep going.............

Einsteins Grandson

he coppied a VMware player guest OS - Windows Server 2008

I am using Windows XP 32bit

Luke

@allquixotic I'm there if I get one more question up vote

Einsteins Grandson

7:09 PM

and when I load that guest OS, it says that

The features supported by the processors in this machine are different from the features supported by the processors in the machine on which the virtual machine state was saved.

So I assume that I would need 64bit OS

However....there is no way to install 64bit software on a 32bit operating system?

my processor actualy is 64bit

sidran32

The OS has to be 64-bit in order to use the 64-bit extensions in the CPU.

A 32-bit OS initializes the CPU in 32-bit mode (forgot the real name for it). For all the OS is aware, it's a 32-bit CPU.

allquixotic

@sidran32 I don't know if 32-bit mode is called short mode, but 64-bit mode is called long mode

sidran32

@allquixotic I don't think it's "short mode"....

allquixotic

"long mode" is a failover from the old notion that int = 32-bit and long = 64-bit, so "long mode" means sizeof(void*) == sizeof(long)

sidran32

Yeah. But I don't think that's how they named 32-bit mode.

Einsteins Grandson

7:14 PM

so there is no solution for me right?

the only way is to install 64bit host OS

sidran32

I believe so, yes.

Einsteins Grandson

and then to copy and play that guest OS - windows server 2008 in VMware player

allquixotic

@EinsteinsGrandson That specific error message could also mean that the saved guest was executed using Extended Page Tables (EPT) or VT-x, of which you don't have one (or both)

Einsteins Grandson

?

sidran32

@allquixotic Ah, I believe it's called "Protected mode".

Einsteins Grandson

7:15 PM

allquixotic, what do you mean?

sidran32

X86

x86 is a series of computer microprocessor instruction set architectures based on the Intel 8086 CPU. The 8086 was introduced during 1978 as a fully 16-bit extension of Intel's 8-bit based 8080 microprocessor and also introduced memory segmentation to overcome the 16-bit addressing barrier of such designs. The term x86 derived from the fact that early successors to the 8086 also had names ending with "86". Many additions and extensions have been added to the x86 instruction set over the years, almost consistently with full backward compatibility. The architecture has been implemented ...

allquixotic

I don't think that simply having a 32-bit OS would be sufficient to cause a saved guest to not work

sidran32

(Link goes straight to the relevent section)

allquixotic

@EinsteinsGrandson I mean, the error message you quoted from the software doesn't necessarily relate to 32-bit / 64-bit (although it may).

Einsteins Grandson

ok

allquixotic

7:16 PM

Hardware features of the processor such as extended page tables and VT-x might not be available on your CPU. If they were available on the friend's PC and not yours, that's the reason why you get that message.

Einsteins Grandson

so if what you said is true

then how can i solve it, if it's possible at all?

sidran32

@allquixotic That's a good point. I'm not well versed with VMWare, so I can't say. But if that's the case, then, well, that'd be the case. :)

Einsteins Grandson

;o))))))))))))

allquixotic

If you could tell me the exact model number of the CPU that both you and your friend have, I could tell you what the problem is

Einsteins Grandson

shit

OK

sidran32

7:17 PM

Yeah, usually VT-x is disabled by default (in my experience), so that could be part of it.

If it's there at all.

allquixotic

however, you can't usually resolve that problem even if you know what the problem is.

you would have to remove the saved state of the VM and cold boot it

but if you are relying on information available in the saved state then you can't use that without having a compatible system, which means the same CPU instruction set

sidran32

Ok, I'm oging to focus back to work. See ya.

Einsteins Grandson

here is mine: very old.... AMD Sempron 2600+ (1833 MHz)

allquixotic

Yeah, I don't think that CPU has VT-x at all...

And it might have AMD-V (if it were a newer AMD processor, which it isn't) but it wouldn't have EPT because AMD-V is the equivalent (but incompatible) page table extension for AMD... so if the friend has an Intel CPU with EPT, that saved state can never be loaded on an AMD processor.

Einsteins Grandson

He has Lenovo Thinkpad

i5 processor

very new notebook

;o)

BTW, I just keep going after:

The features supported by the processors in this machine are different from the features supported by the processors in the machine on which the virtual machine state was saved.

You may attempt to resume this virtual machine, but doing so may result in unpredictable behavior. Do you wish to resume this virtual machine?

allquixotic

7:25 PM

@EinsteinsGrandson yeah, so an Intel i5 and an old AMD are definitely not going to be able to share a saved state.

Einsteins Grandson

It asks me YES or NO

The features supported by the processors in this machine are different from the features supported by the processors in the machine on which the virtual machine state was saved.

You may attempt to resume this virtual machine, but doing so may result in unpredictable behavior. Do you wish to resume this virtual machine?

It asks me YES or NO

allquixotic

if you hit no, you'll lose any saved state you have ... is it important that you keep the saved state? the saved state is whatever was in the guest's "RAM"

Einsteins Grandson

OK

I try NO

maybe it's my fault in the beginning

which file should I open?

.vmx

or

BIVM02.vmdk ?

vmx OR vmdk?

allquixotic

@EinsteinsGrandson the .vmdk is the disk image; it contains the virtual "hard drive" files. The .vmx is the main configuration file for the guest, and that's what you should open with VMware.

0

Q: How to force Chrome to use proxy settings?

We're about to deploy Google Chrome to our users. The thing is, we use a proxy server to filter HTTP connections to force users to just use a handful of websites on workplace computers. So far I've been able to set Chrome to use either a PAC or configure the Windows LAN settings to use the proxy...

Einsteins Grandson

7:41 PM

yes, you re right, now it works.... so i was probably oepning vmdk

allquixotic

7:59 PM

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recently i purchased an hp EliteBook 8570w Workstation which has a native resolution of 1920 x 1080 but unfortunately due to this high resolution everything is too small specially the tool-bars and icons. i tried to customize windows colors and appearance by increasing text size and icons sizes ...

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Q: Mac Joining Active Directory Still Prompts For Authentication

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allquixotic

8:25 PM

Ahh, that is satisfying. I'm having a high rep day. Haven't had a productive day on SU since October 10.

allquixotic

8:58 PM

0

Q: Can't boot Windows after installing Linux

I have a partition /dev/sdb1, where my old Windows XP resides. All the files are there intact and I can see them, mounting the disk from Linux. Linux is on /dev/sdb2. But when I choose Windows in LILO prompt, it doesn't load. I have the following lilo.conf: boot = /dev/sdb # Linux bootable part...

linux windows-xp boot lilo

LILO? Windows XP? Was that question asked 39 minutes ago, or 39 months ago?

Tom Wijsman

This isn't WinRT Tom, it is standard Windows 8. — Paul 27 mins ago

This is going to confuse a lot of people.

0

Q: Skydrive app synch

How can I get the skydrive app in windows 8 to download all my files to a folder on my machine and keep it synched? For now I can only view the files, but can't synch them to a folder like the application in windows 7 can

windows-8 skydrive

Or Metro applications not living up to people's expectations since all of them are first generation and features need to be built from the ground up, again, WinRT plays a big role here.

allquixotic

@TomWijsman yeah, WinRT / Modern apps are basically where KDE 4.0 or Android 1.0 or GNOME 3.0 were. A bad, bad state where the core foundation is working but the things people want are just missing.

Almost any new GUI platform is going to have the same growing pains

Tom Wijsman

Well, apart from the switch from DOS to Windows, Windows never had such growing pains.

allquixotic

well, and Win16 to Win32, but that transition was eased by the fact that many early Win32 programs could use the same drawing APIs (GDI, etc) as their Win16 counterparts, so it was a simple recompile

web apps also have the same problem, though

Google Docs vs. either OpenOffice or MS Office = lol

"Can Google Docs do this?" "No." "Can it just do that?" "No." "Can....?" "No!!!"

Oliver Salzburg

@allquixotic :D

People these days... they treat everything as a word processor that enables them to use bold and italic

allquixotic

9:13 PM

gotta love Microsoft going through the same growing pains as other platforms that've come (and gone) since Win32, though... new UI, new platform (WinRT at least is a new platform), everything goes to hell in a handbasket.

They just can't implement features fast enough with all the developer manpower in the world, to make WinRT or Modern on x86 to have the same feature capabilities as what you have on Win7/x86 today.

Luke

Anyone here want to try my first Workplace.SE question?

KronoS

1

A: Skydrive app sync files to local computer

The Metro SkyDrive app cannot do this, however you can still download the desktop application from here to accomplish this the same way as in Windows 7.

somebody hurry up and approve that edit so I can make my own edit

Oliver Salzburg

@Luke Always!

Luke

0

Q: How to respectfully go above your manager?

First off, this specific incident is about a volunteer organization, not necessarily a workplace... Having said that I have two sets of managers directly above me: the management that funds, and the management that directs. I needed more volunteers, and just gave the paperwork to a couple I thou...

management

allquixotic

@Luke Not gonna answer on workplace, but my immediate response would be "don't"

only way I'd go above my manager is by calling an anonymous hotline to report unethical behavior...

Luke

9:19 PM

@allquixotic Thanks for the input... That's where I am right now, but it's a piss off

allquixotic

if you really feel you have to go above your manager, the only ways to do it and not get fired (imho) are to do it anonymously through a hotline if you think the behavior is unethical or wasteful (most corps have a hotline); or to discuss with your manager that you don't agree and think a higher level manager should make the decision.

Oliver Salzburg

@Luke Whenever you try to explain something that involves several groups, give the groups names

It makes it a lot easier to follow

allquixotic

if your manager is really laid back they might actually be okay with the two of you (you and your manager) discussing the issue together with the manager's boss. even if your manager doesn't want to do that, you could ask, and you're unlikely to suffer consequences if they say "no, i don't think we need to talk to my boss about it".

as long as you don't pursue it further

even the most stiff boss would probably appreciate that you're at least trying to go through them, and as long as you leave the final decision in your manager's hands as to whether they want to ask up the chain or not, it should be fine

Oliver Salzburg

@allquixotic seems to have very reasonable insights. I have no clue at all about "the workplace".

allquixotic

you can just be like... "look, I really want this to happen and think it would be beneficial, so if we could consult the upper level manager (insert their name) together, it might give us a different perspective." if your manager doesn't like that, then just be sure to tell them you won't pursue it further, and then don't.

the only reason you should pursue it further is if it's a matter of ethics or legal compliance and you fear that your organization could get in trouble if you allow things to unfold

if it's just a missed opportunity or doing things sub-optimally then you have no moral or ethical responsibility to ensure that it happens, so you should maybe offer your boss to take it to a higher level, and if that doesn't work, drop it

you could directly talk to your boss's superiors without notifying your own boss, but that is potentially disastrous since the superiors are unlikely to protect your confidentiality and your boss will likely hear word that you went to upper management without consulting them

Oliver Salzburg

9:29 PM

@allquixotic Erm, are you really sure you don't want to answer that question... ;D

allquixotic

yeah, i'm just discussing it. thinking out loud

Oliver Salzburg

Seems to me like you have a pretty good idea. Why not offer it on the site?

allquixotic

I'm not a rep hor like some people (ahem @OliverSalzburg) ;-) (just kidding bud <3)

Oliver Salzburg

Well...

I'm just gonna copy what you said and answer it myself! :D

allquixotic

FINE! Be that way!

I take back the kidding part!

Oliver Salzburg

9:31 PM

cha-ching

allquixotic

lol

Oliver Salzburg

:D

allquixotic

I upvoted the question, though. that should help somewhat.

Oliver Salzburg

Since I've become a mod I've hardly gained any rep. I feel no shame in admitting that I take any I can get :P

Look at that! stackexchange.com/users/95447/oliver-salzburg?tab=reputation

allquixotic

No, I'm not razzing you for your rep. I was only joking. But in all seriousness you're free to post an answer. I just... I don't know... workplace doesn't sound like the kind of place where I should start getting involved and answering questions, because it isn't my field. Maybe if I were in HR.

Oliver Salzburg

9:33 PM

@allquixotic You never know...

allquixotic

I have a lot of instinctual and culturally-accrued knowledge about workplace etiquette, ethics, etc. but these things are very internal to me and not something I feel I can profess about to the general public. I'm much more likely to ask questions on workplace than answer them.

Oliver Salzburg

I read stuff all over the network and I register on the weirdest sites just to post a comment sometimes.

allquixotic

Me too, but I only really feel qualified to answer in SU and SO, and maybe IT Security.

Oliver Salzburg

Humm, yeah, I guess I know what you mean

allquixotic

When providing answers on SE sites, especially when they're subjective answers, I try to really know that I have solid footing and a very strong reason for adhering to that subjective answer, rather than it just being a gut feeling or based on personal experience.

Oliver Salzburg

9:35 PM

If you give an answer, you want to know it's a good answer?

allquixotic

With SU and SO, a lot of the time, subjectivity is totally out of the question anyway, and I can just go ahead and be objective, which is easy. Workplace, there's very little objectivity.

Oliver Salzburg

But how are you going to learn if your knowledge is "good" without testing it? ...possibly on workplace.se

allquixotic

Yeah. I want to be able to convince myself that the answer is truly something that is correct and helpful, and not potentially misleading or based on my own little microcosm. I can stand on pretty solid footing a lot of the time on SU and sometimes on SO, but rarely in the touchy-feely places.

And I don't consider giving subjective advice to others as a good testing ground for my theories. :P

Heaven forbid my answer gets accepted with a +10 and the person goes off and takes my advice.

And it was all based on heresay....

Oliver Salzburg

@allquixotic Wow, yeah, that's a good point. I'll reconsider that

Einsteins Grandson

So, why is the guest OS in VMware so slow?

Because I have an old processor?

allquixotic

9:38 PM

@EinsteinsGrandson Your CPU (Sempron, right?) doesn't have VT-x or AMD-V.

Einsteins Grandson

or because I don't have enough of RAM?

allquixotic

Recent-ish instruction set architecture revisions have implemented hardware instructions in the CPU itself to accelerate virtual machines by a large factor (I don't know exactly what the factor is, but with both VT-x and AMD-V/EPT, probably about 10).

RAM doesn't have much to do with it if you don't even have VT-x. Software emulation is slooooooooooooooooooooooo......oooooooow

Einsteins Grandson

geez

yes

brutally slow

is there any organization that can lend a laptop that is worht 400 dollars? just for 8 months until I gradute

;o)

I will give it back to them afterwards

I'm thinking about writing a letter to Bill Gates

;o)

Oliver Salzburg

You need a laptop?

Einsteins Grandson

yes

it can be also a PC

or

Oliver Salzburg

9:41 PM

Where do you live?

czech republic

That's not far

from what?

From Germany

Germany

it depends on which town

Oliver Salzburg

9:42 PM

Well, it's in Europe

Einsteins Grandson

but yes, it's close...

yeah

8 hours maximum by car

so, what is your idea?

;o)

Oliver Salzburg

I'm currently selling a ton of old hardware on eBay

I'm thinking about giving you the earnings if you earn a specific amount of rep :D

Einsteins Grandson

yeah but I can't afford it

Luke

@allquixotic Thanks for the input

Einsteins Grandson

so what do you mean excatly?

what is rep?

Tom Wijsman

9:45 PM

what is rep? baby don't downvote me, baby don't downvote me, no more...

6

Luke

That was the fastest 3 stars I've seen in a long time

r.tanner.f

@Luke haha I think I got the first one xD

Luke

I got the second

Einsteins Grandson

I don't sell on eBya

eBay

;o)

Luke

Who's the creeper who waited till the end?

Einsteins Grandson

9:46 PM

so, what is it?

Tom Wijsman

@EinsteinsGrandson superuser.com/faq#reputation

Oliver Salzburg

@EinsteinsGrandson Well, my idea would have been that I would sponsor you your laptop if you involve yourself in the site in a way that would benefit everyone. Meaning that you would provide worthy content.

But, in hindsight, I'm not sure if I would want to make such a good investment

Einsteins Grandson

;o)

Tom Wijsman

@Luke I think I actually bumped my mega-starred image off the charts... :(

Einsteins Grandson

you mean providing worthy content on Supeuser?

r.tanner.f

9:48 PM

WOOOOOOOOOOO! 4G baby! They brought it here already xD

Oliver Salzburg

@EinsteinsGrandson I see you on chat all the time, yet, you seem little involved in the site. Meaning, you've gained little reputation yet. How come?

r.tanner.f

I'm so happy.

Einsteins Grandson

;o)

the thing is that I help people that have all kinds of crazy problems

with their computers

so I use all the Stack Exchange sites to solve those problems

sometimes, I am solving my problem

Oliver Salzburg

Well, how do you feel about editing/reviewing?

Einsteins Grandson

what do you mean?

Oliver Salzburg

9:52 PM

You can edit an answer or a question to fix some mistakes (like grammar, links, images, paragraphs, titles, tags, ...) and, when the edit is accepted, you get 2 reputation points.

Einsteins Grandson

I don't have time for that

Oliver Salzburg

Well... there's the 2 rep points

Einsteins Grandson

;o)

Oliver Salzburg

...and everybody will think you're awesome

Einsteins Grandson

But I will try to

how worth is it anyway?

Oliver Salzburg

9:53 PM

It's worth nothing

Einsteins Grandson

i do edit on Wikipedia

Oliver Salzburg

Nothing but respect

Einsteins Grandson

anonymously

Oliver Salzburg

How much respect is worth...

that's up to you

But in all seriousness

If you get to 10k

You get a free laptop

Einsteins Grandson

and I work as I volunteer in IT team in a club that is responsible for all the international students that come to our university each year.... more than 700 students

10.000?

How long will it take me?

2 years?

;o)))))))))))))

Oliver Salzburg

9:55 PM

You want me to do the math?

Einsteins Grandson

yes

Oliver Salzburg

No! No math!

Einsteins Grandson

if I want to reach 10.000 in 1 month

how many hours do i need to do it every day?

Oliver Salzburg

...don't we all.

Einsteins Grandson

5?

i know

but still.... how many?

i love numbers

and calculations

;o)

Tom Wijsman

9:57 PM

200 rep cap, 200 * 30 = 6000, *fail*
200 rep cap + 100 from accepts and/or bounties, 300 * 30 = 9000, *fail*

Einsteins Grandson

you said I get 2 for each one

so I would need to do 100 reps a day right?

that's maybe 2 hours a day

or 1 hour?

Tom Wijsman

What kind of math is that? xD

Einsteins Grandson

30 days * 300 points per day = 9000... the last 1000 is not gonna be a problem

allquixotic

@r.tanner.f Verizon LTE?

Einsteins Grandson

so many hours a day?

;o)

2?

;o))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

allquixotic

10:00 PM

@EinsteinsGrandson 24

Einsteins Grandson

24 hours?

allquixotic

not kidding

yep

Einsteins Grandson

that's too many

allquixotic

no eat sleep drink or bathroom

Oliver Salzburg

@EinsteinsGrandson You approximated average rep gain since registration: 107 / ( 10 * 30 ) = 0.357/day . (10000-107)/0.357 = 27711 days

allquixotic

10:01 PM

LOL

Oliver Salzburg

So... yeah

Just a couple more days

Einsteins Grandson

i am gonna be dead in 27 711 days

Oliver Salzburg

HEY!

allquixotic

@OliverSalzburg what you could do is just sell it to him at a discounted price

Oliver Salzburg

Don't say that

Einsteins Grandson

10:02 PM

i mean it's too far away

allquixotic

(international) shipping exists.

Einsteins Grandson

We will not be using laptops in 27 711 days for sure

allquixotic

@EinsteinsGrandson don't be so sure.... 27,711 days ago we were using cars

Oliver Salzburg

Yeah

Bummer

Einsteins Grandson

maybe even StackExchange will not exist in 27 711 days

I think writing a letter to Bill Gates is a much better idea

Oliver Salzburg

10:03 PM

Now that'd be a drag

Einsteins Grandson

why?

Oliver Salzburg

@EinsteinsGrandson Tell Bill that I loved that thing that he said at that conference. It was hilarious

Einsteins Grandson

which one?

which conference

Oliver Salzburg

He'll know...

Einsteins Grandson

2001?

or 1998?

or 1995?

maybe he will not remember

Oliver Salzburg

10:05 PM

Tell him, Oliver said it, he'll know

allquixotic

@EinsteinsGrandson that's the joke. Oliver's pulling a fast one on ya ;-)

Einsteins Grandson

haha

but I think he actually said something really funny long time ago

at a conference

allquixotic

DAMNIT, @TomWijsman! You put that abominable song in my head!

after visiting the restroom and seeing the "DON'T RUSH / STOP / FLUSH" sign (yes we really have those) I am now thinking "What is flush? Baby don't rush me, don't rush me, no moa"

Tom Wijsman

@allquixotic: I have fresh new songs to get that song out of your head, take your pick as long as it's not Florida:

Einsteins Grandson

Oliver, how long did it take you to reach 25k?

10 years?

allquixotic

10:07 PM

@EinsteinsGrandson SE hasn't existed for 10 years

I got to 6k (plus rep at other non-SU sites) since July 2012

but I'm active, knowledgable and resourceful. Are you?

Einsteins Grandson

4 months?

Oliver Salzburg

@EinsteinsGrandson I haven't.

Einsteins Grandson

not active, not knowledgable.... don't know what resourceful means

3

;o)

r.tanner.f

@allquixotic ya

looks like they just flipped the switch

allquixotic

and here I was expecting Einstein's Grandson to have 690k rep on patents.SE

@r.tanner.f congratulations :)

Tom Wijsman

10:16 PM

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Q: How can I force Xbox Music to find music in all subfolders of my Music library?

My music library is organized (roughly) like this: Music mp3 (original) Artist/Album/Song mp3 (from Tom) Artist/Album/Song mp3 (from Dick) Artist/Album/Song mp3 (from Harry) Artist/Album/Song ... etc. When I use the desktop Zune Software, it ...

windows-8 music modern-ui xbox-music

Well, we're not running out of Windows 8 questions. It'll take some time before all "this-feature-is-missing" questions have been enumerated...

Sad people with "No. But you can do this on desktop." get upvoted and accepted.

r.tanner.f

@TomWijsman Should set up an auto answer.

Tom Wijsman

"No, you can't, but you can do this in the Zune Software" would be quite a troll answer. :D

allquixotic

or "works in Rhythmbox"

Einsteins Grandson

patents.SE?

what do you mean?

allquixotic

DragonLord

11:36 PM

How do I improve this question?

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Q: What is Clevo, and what should I know about Clevo laptops?

I've noticed that laptops from several manufacturers, such as iBUYPOWER and CyberPowerPC, are actually based on systems designed by a company called Clevo. What exactly is Clevo, and what should I know about Clevo systems when shopping for a new laptop? Is there anything I should be concerned a...

laptop computer-buying manufacturer

I want to ensure that this is an objectively answerable and reasonably scoped question. The question currently has one close vote as "not a real question".

Journeyman Geek

@DragonLord: Its an ODM. They build utterly insanely speced laptops and generic whitebox models.

;p

DragonLord

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