I dont think they make a Hot swap PCI yet :-)

no @Psycogeek? I don't usually do that when working with PCI yet

oh, yes, I did, when messing with the PCI cards themselves, but not swapping USB drives

All the power, you gotta shut off the Power supply or pull the plug. I know that PCI has 5V standby power going to it, when the computer is in the "off" state, because it is used for Nic/Lan cards

woohoo, got the computer to get to bios \o/

Woohoo

though ^^ has been at the same spot for 45 minutes so I think something might be wrong q:

Haha, I'd say theres a problem

@RebeccaChernoff hey, awesome! :)

@RebeccaChernoff heck your half way there, what happens in windows stays in windows.

you may need to reinstall Windows though @RebeccaChernoff :(

@studiohack this is from the install

went through the install, it rebooted as part of that, and then...

@RebeccaChernoff so do we finnaly get an update on what all happened ?

oh okay... ouch. :(

taking out the battery on the mobo and putting it back in (same battery, not a new one) is what fixed it

you reset the BIOS @RebeccaChernoff

@RebeccaChernoff it can crash there when your overclocked or the memory is pushed (not that you did overclock) You cleared the bios back to defaults.

indeed

yeah, not overclocking

@RebeccaChernoff then underclock :-) set things a bit low till you get going.

oh, you mean the win7 install...thought you meant the comp doing nothing but turning on the fans (:

@RebeccaChernoff sure all that. For the computer not posting, i was expecting that you would come back and tell what all happened, assuming that you would indeed get it working one way or another.

right...that was the battery issue. as per my usual luck, I fix one problem only to land into another. q:

I'd much rather have software issues than hardware issues though (:

@RebeccaChernoff ok, and. . . your not texting , did you get a new video card? do you have the new memory in ??

no, the video card was not a planned upgrade, only memory and ssd.

so it is working with the original video card? and the 24G of memory is now in ?

working to the point of os install, aye

What i would do before install, or right after not being able to boot. is Tune the memory, especially when changing the quantity of the sticks or to more sticks.

tune the memory?

well some of that is because i overclock both the cpu and push the memory, but just generally when upping it like that, it gets more pickey. a Bootable USB stick, with the MEMTEST86 on it, and a few certian passes , of test 6.

the long version: memory is pretty much all the same, they havent really sped it up a whole lot in ages. The memory to work at certain FSB (base clock speeds) has Timings data on the chip itslef. This is called SPD (what ever that means) Auto , when the bios is on default, it picks up this set of timing paramters for the memory off the chip.

Every Motherboard is slightly different, and when adding in a lot of sticks, the timeing and the slew cant be perfectally matched to the board itself. That is where the "compatability list" for the motherboards comes in.

That is why, 1/2 the people installing loads of memory , send it back for not working :-) When usually all that is needed, is for the memory to be taken off of SPD (or AUTO) and the timings to be tuned, till it always passes a good hard memory test.

So all these cute numbers we see on the memory 1600 2000 1300, or whatever, are not (as much) how fast the memory itself actually is, but more how the Timings are set , and read by the mother board. notes: there are faster and slower controllers and chips, but that has little to do with Timing the memory to work at the 1300 1600 and 2000 numbers they are selling us.

Once you take the memory off of auto, you see all kinds of cute numbers, with all sorts of fun names , and different boards use sligtly different names. Basically this sets certian "wait states" (my words) for the speed of the memory. CAS RAS REFRESH, and other complicated stuff. that is were we get another set of numbers 7-7-7-21 and 9-9-9-32 or whatever. those are the timings.

If you raise these numbers , you put in more "wait states", and the memory is sure to work. so BEFORE stuffing in a whole new rack of memory. a person can Lower the Divisor (the ratio between the base speed and the memory). And take the memory off of auto, and raise the timing numbers, and the chances of the memory update working in one move will be much higher.