Fake Programmers

KronoS

00:49

Ah nevermind on the ribbon... I've figure that out...

This is so much Fun!

KronoS

05:38

@IvoFlipse I'm headed to bed. I'll be up in a few hours though... I've updated the prog quite a bit, but still a lot more to go... I think you might be slighty proud of me :P Anyways... talk to you laters

Ivo Flipse

10:07

@DMA57361 I tweaked the layout somewhat, so you can finally read all the values in the list with contacts

though ironically I haven't used it myself at all :P

I was at first planning of color coding it, so you knew which contacts are outliers

but I already have a much nicer interface for that below

DMA57361

you found out how to expand the main image as well then

Ivo Flipse

So I might just reverse it and just show the contact number + prediction (not even sure if that's really needed)

@DMA57361 I made the mistake to create a self.axes.add_subplot(111) where I should have done: self.axes.add_axes([0,0,1,1])

I was basically making figures with a lonely subplot, which is pretty stupid :P

DMA57361

ah, still, looking better now :)

Ivo Flipse

indeed

I'm now going to add a tooltip to the measurementname, because you can't read the full name

I'm sure I'll be able to make use of that elsewhere as well

Ivo Flipse

10:49

jezus isn't there any tutorial that explains how to properly add tooltips?

Ivo Flipse

11:03

Now I know how the COP should be

Ivo Flipse

12:43

Ivo Flipse

13:19

Look @DMA57361 at least now I get to figure out how the COP should be

it seems there's an offset in the images, which screws with the COP :\

probably because I've aligned all the images, whereas the COPs aren't necessarily

man that's such a major bummer...

mask = contact > 0.001 * contact.max()
                ny, nx = contact.shape
                y, x = np.mgrid[:ny, :nx]
                ymin, ymax = y[mask].min(), y[mask].max()
                xmin, xmax = x[mask].min(), x[mask].max()
                x, y = np.shape(contact[ymin:ymax,xmin:xmax]

There's the evil

oh thank god, it seems that's postprocessing

DMA57361

ah, so fixable?

Ivo Flipse

@DMA57361 well I need a different way to standardize the contacts

the 'best' way would be to take each contact and rotate it so the least squared difference is the smallest

DMA57361

along with the COP lines

Ivo Flipse

@DMA57361 Well the problem in these lines of code is that it cuts off parts of the image, making them no longer fit

either I need to do the same to the COP or not at all

@DMA57361 Though you're right, if I translate the contacts, everything else should get translated just as much...

the problem is that the translation right now is like a black box. I just trim off the edges, but don't register how much that was

def calculate_cop(self, data):
        copx, copy = [],[]
        y, x, z = np.shape(data)
        xcoord, ycoord = np.arange(1, x+1), np.arange(1, y+1)
        tempx, tempy = np.zeros((y, z)), np.zeros((x, z))

technically if I know the shape of the contact after 'trimming' I could pass that along to other results

the downside is that I've already calculated all results and stored them in the database

so my safest bet is to create a post-processing feature that simply does all calculations again

DMA57361

that sounds like it makes sense

brain's not really in gear today - wisdom tooth putting me off everything atm

Ivo Flipse

13:33

@DMA57361 auch, needs to get pulled?

My brains have been in low gear all week, so I'm just aiming for the lowest hanging fruit

and helped Kronos built his app

so I just keep working, but don't have to strain myself

DMA57361

@IvoFlipse naa, just growing a bit, it'll stop in a day or so, then probably won't bother me again for a few months, it's just really distracting in the meantime

@IvoFlipse yeah? how's that going?

Ivo Flipse

DMA57361

nice

Ivo Flipse

well I added a second tab, though I misunderstood him somewhat

DMA57361

does it have a working backend too?

Ivo Flipse

13:36

yeah, though very meager

if you press it twice, it will calculate the time difference

DMA57361

still, not bad for a few days work (or is it more already?!)

Ivo Flipse

when you press the + button it will sent it to the controller

press the save button and it will sent it to the model and store it in a sqlite database

but because there's no textfields for doctor + patient, I couldn't generate any unique ids

so it just runs once right now

but still :P

this is like 2-3 evenings work

DMA57361

@IvoFlipse quite, given the time span it's a very good start

Ivo Flipse

Also wasted some time getting this to look like it does

DMA57361

@IvoFlipse lol, which option do I choose?!

Ivo Flipse

13:38

First I refactored the code to switch between tabs, turns out I have a lot of useless code in my own app :P

so that was a useful lesson, hehe

and that min/max/mean are in a list

so basically it makes a combo of label + textcontrol for each item in the list

DMA57361

you've effectively got yourself a ribbon/tab/page based UI framework going

Ivo Flipse

@DMA57361 Yeah pretty much :)

DMA57361

nice

Ivo Flipse

I just copy pasted my own 'framework' and removed all the redundant code

turns out he wanted those 3 buttons on top to be min/max/mean or something

because he wanted to display some statistics here

the theory is, that while you measure a certain time/task, that's not effectively the time you spend on it

the more tasks, the less likely its very correct, so you apply some statistics to lower their values

remind me to support floats instead of rounded numbers :P

else he'll get weird results, hehe

DMA57361

lol, indeed

I really need to do some more dev work

just haven't really had the motivation for it lately

Ivo Flipse

13:42

but this way he just creates an instance of these things for every result he wants and the rest is easy :)

you're welcome to pitch in ;P

I'm tempted to start hacking with Kinect, but I also want to learn more statistics and I still have to finish up some other features

DMA57361

@IvoFlipse yeah, but I've not really playing with wxPython and those bits, so potentially be more of a hindrance

Ivo Flipse

It all looks like a mountain of work :(

DMA57361

@IvoFlipse yeah, spotting a tweet WRT to the SDK being released

Ivo Flipse

@DMA57361 So hasn't Kronos, but he's documenting what the heck it does

well the SDK is .NET so unless I can get ironpython to work, that's not an option

but when I saw what others did with the other driver, I don't need the current version of the SDK to mess around

DMA57361

@IvoFlipse ah well that's not surprising, but still a little irritating

Ivo Flipse

13:44

I could try to learn C#, but I feel like I have so much to learn in Python still

though I do feel I'm getting more proficient now

DMA57361

learning a different language can make you better at the first one

makes you approach problems from a different perspective

that said, it's always a fairly large time investment to do so properly

Ivo Flipse

just need a plan de campagne for my statistics, because it shouldn't have to be difficult. After all I built the population part in one week, so rewriting it shouldn't take much longer either

@DMA57361 I'm also afraid I'll like the tools a lot and wanting to rewrite a lot of my python code :P

and obviously I'm not getting paid at the moment, so I need results. Learning a new language won't give me that :)

DMA57361

@IvoFlipse lol, well yes, but that always happens ;)

Ivo Flipse

I do think that with C# a lot of graphical work would be a lot easier

OpenGL tutorials for Python are pretty meager imho

DMA57361

yeah, on both counts

Ivo Flipse

13:47

though I'm going to try and bite the bullet anyway, because then I'm really no longer dependent on libraries and such

biting the bullet on learning OpenGL regardless of the language that is

DMA57361

@IvoFlipse what libraries are you trying to drop?

Ivo Flipse

well Matplotlib can't do animations fast enough, glumpy doesn't work in wxpython etc

DMA57361

oic

Ivo Flipse

besides OpenGL doesn't allow dynamic typing as much as Python, so it will give me the different perspective ;)

DMA57361

there's very few things that allow dynamic typing as much as Python... :P

Ivo Flipse

13:49

And I'm hoping it will allow me to understand something like CUDA, which would prove to be useful on my datasets

DMA57361

yeah, there's quite a bit of potential there I suppose

Ivo Flipse

@DMA57361 true, but you can't change a frame that's drawn on the screen right now. So you need to learn how to cope with that

@DMA57361 yeah I mean if I have to calculate something on dozens of arrays, those are easy calculations, just need to do it very often

doing them in parallel would be awesome

DMA57361

@IvoFlipse you can't do that with anything... can you? isn't it usually redrawn or flipped with a buffered frame isn't it? :/

Ivo Flipse

@DMA57361 yes, but in Python your used that mostly anything is mutable and it won't complain

DMA57361

@IvoFlipse yeah, Python can thread and/or multiprocess, but not very efficiently from what I've read WRT the global interpreter

Ivo Flipse

13:51

@DMA57361 that's why you interface with CUDA and let that handle it

DMA57361

indeed!

gah, stupid tortoisehg

Ivo Flipse

Now I get why this looked so weird, that was because the offset, not because the axis was flipped

its like 1 pixel to far in front for y, and a whole bunch for x

DMA57361

ah

Ivo Flipse

that's why I loaded the human measurements :P

I know very well what that should looked like, hehe

I was actually surprised the program worked so well on those measurements

but it craps out by the low pressures in the middle of the foot

DMA57361

@IvoFlipse how so?

Ivo Flipse

13:57

DMA57361

ah

Ivo Flipse

In the normal software it looks like there's actual pressure there, while in my alternate reality it turns out not that much

its all below 1.0 N, that's indeed not a lot

DMA57361

odd

Ivo Flipse

some pressure is even 0.1

DMA57361

ah, quite a different ball game then in some ways

Ivo Flipse

13:59

> thresh = data > (0.05 * data.max())

that's what messes it up

that's from Joe's code

but honestly anything over 0 is fine

DMA57361

yeah... probably

Ivo Flipse

now it might mess up in small dogs though, like merge them over time because they're too close

DMA57361

got the TimeMotion prog going from Kiln btw, looking good up close :)

Ivo Flipse

we'll see

@DMA57361 ah good :)

well I'm sure you can make a bit more sense of it than Kronos

DMA57361

had to fight with mercurial more than anything :P the copy-paste job on machine was looking in the wrong place for some certificate file, oh well

haven't look at the code yet thou I'll admit, but that widget inspector looks snazzy

is it part of the library?

Ivo Flipse

14:01

yeah part of wxpython, its loaded on MainView

you can comment it out when it gets annoying

but its very useful for inspecting the sizers

it highlights parts as well

DMA57361

@IvoFlipse yeah, spotted that. I imagine it's very helpful

may or may not be an issue, but it's too tall for my screen res and there's no scroll bar to compensate...

Ivo Flipse

that's due to the button size

I couldn't find a way to wrap the text on togglebuttons (annoyed me to death)

might actually just make my own togglebuttons just to work around it

but they're a tad too large

hence they don't really fit no

DMA57361

btw, that repository has a floating head quite a way down, don't know if it needs merging

Ivo Flipse

@DMA57361 probably just needs closing off

DMA57361

and you can tell it to ignore *.pyc files, so that they never get in the way on other screens

Ivo Flipse

14:07

Kronos kept making stupid changes while I had make major changes, very annoying :P

ah, that helps

though we use mercurial in Eclipse, which doesn't have all the tortoise features :\

DMA57361

ah, just drop a .hgignore file in the base dir with the contents:

syntax: glob
*.pyc

Ivo Flipse

ah, I also want it to ignore any Eclipse files :P

DMA57361

ah

well add more ignores for that then

Ivo Flipse

can I just put in the names of files to ignore?

DMA57361

probably...

I create the above with thg, so I'm not sure what the format is tbh

yeah

just syntax: glob

Ivo Flipse

14:17

It didn't crap out, but I push the small tweaks

oh I need to add syntax: ?

syntax: glob
*.pyc
.settings
.pydevproject
.project

DMA57361

yeah, that looks good to me :)

thou .settings is already in the repo, as I have a copy here... so you might need to remove that

Ivo Flipse

I told it to forget

DMA57361

f/e

if you haven't, you need to also need to add the .hgignore file to the repo, not sure I mentioned that bit

oh no, there it is, hadn't refreshed

Ivo Flipse

I hadn't deleted them before updating hgignore

but Kronos might not had known how to keep Eclipse stuff out

I fear adding Eclipse stuff is what created those nested folders

DMA57361

well anything in the repo folders that shouldn't be shared should ideally be ignored I guess

Ivo Flipse

14:31

I wonder should I make a config file something with a .ini extension or just a python file that's mutable?

DMA57361

for what purpose?

Ivo Flipse

I want to set a default location where the database is

DMA57361

oic, that sort of thing

Ivo Flipse

correction, where the measurement files are

which you load in the software

now I have to browse there, very annoying

I'll just set it to C, just to be save. Once I have a settings tab I'll let them change it

and obviously now I need to parse that file and retrieve the path

DMA57361

yup

wow, 7000 for that blog post so far :D

Ivo Flipse

14:36

yeah, though its off HN front page

still 7k is impressive

DMA57361

yeah

Ivo Flipse

Stumbleupon brings in masses too

Ivo Flipse

14:50

sp = wx.StandardPaths.Get()
self.currentFolder = sp.GetDocumentsDir()

hmm that would have been useful too

strangely enough it doesn't actually use my default directory :\

DMA57361

odd

however, I've gotta head home, will see you later at some point :)

Ivo Flipse

the file dialog is better than what I had before though

Ah I do need the : in C\\

hi @Pete

morning @KronoS

KronoS

15:16

Mornin @IvoFlipse I'm gonna go take a shower and then get some things done around the house, and then get back to working on the app... did you take a look?

Ivo Flipse

15:34

@KronoS Uhm I didn't spot any differences

besides I'm out for dinner in 30 mins, just so you know

KronoS

@IvoFlipse that's fine... but it should've updated....

Ivo Flipse

Indeed you should :P

I changed some small things, so you'll have to merge the changes

KronoS

so how do i do that? I added to the ribbon pretty significanltly and changed which panels appeared according to which tab was open

Ivo Flipse

@KronoS Just commit, then pull my code. It will ask you what to do

KronoS

Says there aren't any changes... :(

when you run it, do you have 'main' 'database' 'task tracker' 'statistics' and 'results' in the ribbon?

like that

Ivo Flipse

15:42

nope

but I'll check again

KronoS

Hmmmm... Weird

Ivo Flipse

I do now

but I don't have the different buttons :\

KronoS

Ok! Does it also have the correct views for the tabs?

Ivo Flipse

your main tab is empty?

KronoS

@IvoFlipse yes

but task tracker and statitics are not

Ivo Flipse

15:44

no I don't have that

KronoS

I just ran a push... maybe that was the issue

Ivo Flipse

seeikng the changes now

KronoS

Oh yep that was it... weird I swore that I ran a push last night before going to bed

Ivo Flipse

your main panel is borked :P

KronoS

@IvoFlipse ya I know... I'm still trying to figure that out :P

Was just trying to add a title to the View... didn't quite work yet... but getting there lol

Ivo Flipse

15:46

You need to add self.SetSizerAndFit(self.mainSizer) to mainpanel I believe

good :)

KronoS

Oh that's better... positioning is all off... but better :)

Ivo Flipse

and you haven't added mainpanel to panelsizer

ah, and you hadn't added panelsizer to mainsizer

hence it looks so weird

though this makes for a weird size :\

the size of main panel determines the size of the entire app

that's 'odd'

KronoS

@IvoFlipse how do i add it to panelsizer... I don't see the file so I assume it's a bit of code within 'mainpanel'

Ivo Flipse

self.mainSizer = wx.BoxSizer(wx.VERTICAL)
        self.mainSizer.Add(self.RibbonPanel, 0, wx.EXPAND)
        # panelsizer will contain all other 'screens' in the future
        self.panelSizer = wx.BoxSizer()
        # I've added this panel to 'force' them in the right place
        self.panelSizer.Add(self.TaskTrackerPanel, 1, wx.EXPAND)
        self.panelSizer.Add(self.StatsPanel, 1, wx.EXPAND)
        self.panelSizer.Add(self.MainPanel, 1, wx.EXPAND)
        self.mainSizer.Add(self.panelSizer, 1, wx.EXPAND)

this is in mainframe

KronoS

Ah....

why is your code indented like that? it's not here

Ivo Flipse

15:52

I don't know

that's me copy pasting in Chrome

KronoS

Oh ok... well I got it to work! :)

Ivo Flipse

great :)

KronoS

Pushed...

thanks @IvoFlipse

Ivo Flipse

yw :)

are you liking your app? :)

KronoS

I'm going to go get some other stuff done around the house and then get back on this..

@IvoFlipse YES!!!!!

Ivo Flipse

15:55

We should add some fields for adding the user/doctor + patient

so we can generate more unique database ids

then the database should be working as well

KronoS

Ya I've been thinking about that... I'm going to put a .txt file in the repo here in a bit with everything that I can think of that goes into the app...

things like how to do patient ID and other things as well...

Ivo Flipse

btw you should try and leave as many non Python code out of commits, FYI :)

@KronoS with the superuser account you can add a Wiki on Kiln/Fogbugz

KronoS

@IvoFlipse So I shouldn't do the .pptx and the .txt then?

@IvoFlipse What?! Really? How?

Ivo Flipse

@KronoS That you can, but the Eclipse files can cause some nasty problems I believe

superuser.fogbugz.com

superuser.fogbugz.com/default.asp?W1

anyway, I need to get going :)

KronoS

@IvoFlipse I'm assuming that eclipse doing that and not me...

@IvoFlipse have fun!

Ivo Flipse

15:59

@KronoS indeed it is, but because you might accidentally select too many files :)

see you later

KronoS

laters

KronoS

20:04

hey @IvoFlipse you around?

Ivo Flipse

yeah but no

watch a ted presentation

+ playing league of legends

KronoS

which one? the physics one?

Ivo Flipse

but shoot anyway

KronoS

about being in two places at once?

Ivo Flipse

actually its a stanford one, my bad: youtube.com/watch?v=AY4ajbu_G3k

watched that too, but didn't really pay attention

KronoS

20:12

It's pretty cool actually...

well I'll leave you be for a bit...

Ivo Flipse

no, feel free to ask a question

KronoS

I'm just wondering if you were around. Right now I'm going to be working on creating a 'close' button for the main screen ribbon

lol ok I might...

Ivo Flipse

@KronoS what for? because the X does just that

KronoS

not if I make it full screen

the code bit that you put into the MainView

which is what I would like

Ivo Flipse

you mean those buttons fall off the screen?

KronoS

20:15

Yep... the min, max, and close buttons are gone

Ivo Flipse

oh those buttons

but what would you need buttons for?

besides buttons should be on the ribbon ;)

KronoS

that's what I mean... it's a button on the ribbon for the mainpanel view

Ivo Flipse

ah, but why did you call it a close button? :P

KronoS

cuz it'll close the program

hey so on the ribbonpanel

there's the lines where we create the button for each tab view

on the line of self.name.AddSimpleButton(ID_SOMENAME, "title name', wx.Bitmap(icon_name),"")

where is the ID_whatever defined

Ivo Flipse

the ID is so you have control over what button to call

each button has an id

you use it to assign functions to it

KronoS

20:26

so where do I define those "ID's"

Oh wait... I see up top... but what's the +1 and the +2 for?

Ivo Flipse

each id has to be unique

so I increment them each new id I create

could have done newId() too I believe

KronoS

why is ADD the Highest?

Huh... now my app doesn't pull up...

weird

Ah it's cuz it automatically runs the sys.exit() command

Ivo Flipse

20:45

highest are id's above those wx assigns automatically

KronoS

ok... I guess lol :P

I'll just take it as it just works for now... I'll understand the more specifics later...

just did a push.. the app now runs in full screen and has a close program button on the ribbon

Ivo Flipse

you don't neeeeeeed that button

theres _ [ ] X

KronoS

Huh?

where?

I'm not seeing it @IvoFlipse

Ivo Flipse

21:06

    #self.frame.ShowFullScreen(True, style=wx.FULLSCREEN_ALL)

disable that line

x, y = wx.DisplaySize()
wx.Frame.__init__(self, parent, id, pos=(0, 0), size=(x, y-40))

enable those two

that makes it full screen

oh and change setsizerandfit to setsizer (its above it I believe)

KronoS

got this error

> wx._core.PyDeadObjectError: The C++ part of the MainFrame object has been deleted, attribute access no longer allowed.

Ivo Flipse

I think you forgot to comment out a line in mainframe

KronoS

you mean this line:

> self.SetSizerAndFit(self.mainSizer)

I did that and it still gave the same error

Ivo Flipse

#wx.Frame.__init__(self, parent, id, pos=(0, 0))

on top

KronoS

Ah ok I see now... well it was still good for me to do this cuz now I'm getting a little more the hang of things

Ivo Flipse

21:11

hehe, well that's great

are you liking it? ;)

KronoS

@IvoFlipse yep!

if you get the newest push you'll see that I added a 'system' panel to the main ribbon

Ivo Flipse

you can remove the popup btw by commenting out a line on mainview

@KronoS Well the close program is no longer needed :)

I should add settings myself as well

though I'd add that as a tab instead

but the opinions about that vary

KronoS

@IvoFlipse ya I know... but it works which made me happy. and wasn't hard to do. Anyways I've gotta head. going to be talking to my apartment complex about them forging my signatures

l8rs

Ivo Flipse

@KronoS :O well good luck in that case

badp

22:23

YO fake programmers

Does that include AHK?

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