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12:01 AM
Ahh, it looks like jobs can only run concurrently if they're on the same worker type
So Python 3.5 and 3.6 on Linux can run at the same time, but not Python 3.5 on Linux and Python 3.5 on Mac
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: abcabcabcabcabc by uihdff on serverfault.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: abcabcabcabcabc by uihdff on serverfault.com
 
sd 2rude
@Undo When you get a chance will you add whatever license you want to NG
It's bothering me that we don't have one and I think it would be best if you did it
Plus if I time it right here it could be the 100th commit ;)
 
Oh, there's a procedure for that. If it doesn't have one now, it's full-copyright and we need permission from all contributors.
 
Gahh crap right
 
Usually we use dual MIT/Apache IIRC
 
12:15 AM
@ArtOfCode @ThomasWard
 
are we the only other committers?
 
Should be
 
@Undo You have my formal blessing to do whatever the hell you want with the code I have put in the SmokeDetector-ng repository
@ArtOfCode Yes (sadly)
 
throw an issue up, let's do it properly
 
very well, I opt to fax it to your cell phone.
 
12:17 AM
fax it via the internets
 
(You can do that, apparently.)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer: How to get the newest contact's picture in outlook 2010? by cocoa on stackoverflow.com
 
Damn, Homebrew sucks.
I feel really bad for you Mac people now.
 
fp- by Yvette
 
@quartata Homebrew is pretty nice, actually.
 
12:20 AM
well it's being very mean to me
 
It's not Apt, but when you learn how to drive it it's pretty good.
What's it doing?
 
Fink was apt, why don't you people still use it
@Undo It's just this specific formula not putting up sane symlinks
 
oh, yeah. Symlinks are fun
 
12:48 AM
I step away for one hour and I have 16 GH notifications.
 
@Undo you all flagged and hammered a real answer. How do we get this rectified?
 
Do you have a link to it?
 
-6
A: PMS on a Roll-up?

Matthias BetzProof.de in Germany is a producer of color accurate roll-ups in proof quality, including spot colors as PANTONE, HKS, Toyo etc. https://shop.proof.de/Color-precise-Roll-Ups/

yes the person who left it contacted me asking why it was marked spam
 
It was reported 3 months ago. I don't think there is anything we can do at this time. IT was reported manually
It was not an automatic detection
I'd comment that on the post to clarify, but it's locked
 
It does look like spam.
How does it answer the question?
That the poster is a real person doesn't mean he wasn't advertising
 
12:59 AM
Which isn't spam according to SE policy
 
I just edited it again for you
 
Why isn't it spam?
 
@Ryan, you should be able to see who flagged that post. At that point that highest number of automatic flags would be 1. However, that post doesn't have a high enough score on Metasmoke to trigger an automatic flag. Everything flagged on that post was done by a person.
 
@JanDvorak the person asked if pantone can be done on a rollup. The person says, "Yes here's a shop in Germany that can do that, link" - that's not a great answer but that's also not spam
 
1:05 AM
Hmm... should the answer be edited then to look less like spam?
 
probably. Had I seen it I would've left a Post Notice / Comment on it but I'm only seeing it now because the user came back and flagged it asking why it was marked spam
 
@QPaysTaxes I understand. At that point in time, the only automatic flag would have been Art. However, with a score of 93, it was not automatically flagged.
@QPaysTaxes All within a second
 
then how did you all even see it?
 
No autoflag records attached to that post.
 
if it wasn't autoflagged then how did you all find it in the first place to flag?
 
1:08 AM
@Ryan shrug someone reported it manually. How they found it, I don't know
quote a past report instead, Q?
 
J F
@QPaysTaxes Memory locations can be mapped to files. When the memory is accessed, the file contents are lazily loaded into memory.
 
ya'll are talking way over my head with this report. I don't know what this is or what I'm looking at but the answer it seems is, "Whats done is done especially since it was a few months ago" (I didn't realize he was asking about something he posted back in January) so I'll be going now. Have a good night or day, thanks for the info
 
@Ryan yeah. The TL;DR there is that six people looked at that post and thought it looked enough like spam to flag it.
 
@Ryan, very briefly: Your user posted something. Somehow, another user saw that post and thought it was spam. They informed SmokeDetector that they thought it was spam. At that point, SmokeDetector trusted the human report and broadcast the spam report. Other users saw that broadcast, looked at the post and agreed and flagged the post as spam. In this instance, the only "automatic" part, was the rebroadcast of the spam report.
 
Any rectification that needs to be done can be done with your regular mod tools, though I imagine you've already done that :)
 
1:20 AM
I would think the most important bit of rectification would be educating the responsible crew, and words are more efficient at that than declined flags
 
"that thar post weren't spam"
there ya go
 
That is spam.
Go look at the whois for that domain
 
@Undo I'm kinda inclined to trust Ryan's call on that one, unless you're about to bring up something I missed?
 
(icann won't work, gotta look for a .de whois. denic.de/webwhois-web20/?lang=en)
Oh, and it has a giant picture of him in a suit near the bottom of shop.proof.de/Color-precise-Roll-Ups.
 
Ah, gotcha. @Ryan that's self-promotion, if you weren't already aware.
 
1:28 AM
@ArtOfCode if some digging shows he's affiliated with the company than it does but that just means it needs to be edited for disclosure
 
aye, no argument there
might be worth just letting him know about disclosing his affiliation, but you're right that there's no need to spam nuke if he doesn't have history of this stuff
 
But... I like to nuke spam
 
@Ryan You'll want to either edit it yourself or delete it
Flags were valid by the book.
> Exists only to promote a product or service, does not disclose the author's affiliation.
 
@JanDvorak That isn't really helping our case here
 
check, check.
 
1:34 AM
@quartata sorry
 
I'm not gonna argue over one declined flag that took some digging to work out anyway :P
 
@ArtOfCode Yeah, I'm looking at what we do with MS feedback
I'm leaving it tp unless you've got objections.
 
It hit both your check marks. It's valid feedback. Information received months later may change it, but what we saw at the time was valid.
 
@QPaysTaxes You should just need to compile with -fsanatize=address. What error are you getting?
 
@quartata context.missing?
!!/alive
 
1:49 AM
@ThomasWard ... did I miss something?
 
!!/location
 
@ThomasWard teward / Midnight Eclipse
 
wow that's still working o.O
means my UPS is working lol
anyways what have I missed?
 
@ThomasWard I cannot see what message you are replying to
 
3 hours ago, by quartata
@ThomasWard FYI: the reason why I originally had os._exit (and the reason I've discovered now that pull and stappit aren't working) is because since it's in a CE worker thread the SystemExit exception is being caught
 
1:50 AM
thanks @Undo
@Undo Tad obsolete because a merge fubard and put Py3 into smokey already, oops. Been running for a few hours on Midnight Eclipse though - gonna see how it does overnight i think we had decided?
 
@QPaysTaxes Not AFAIK if you're compiling with Clang. You might need to do something like that if you're using GCC though, but I'm not sure.
 
@ThomasWard in commands
 
@quartata still missing the context - Smokey normal or NG?
 
NG
 
ah well callin os._exit is a violation of the protected member access stuff so...
could cause headaches down the line
 
1:55 AM
excepthook in classic Smokey does it as well
No real sane way to exit from a thread unless you made a clunky message passing thing to the main thread, which is usually blocking since it's listening to the websocket
I suppose you could use thread.interrupt_main to wake up the main thread along with the exit code as a separate message but I mean really
 
@QPaysTaxes error message please? I'm not at a computer right now btw
 
solution: rust rewrite
 
2:25 AM
derps
 
@QPaysTaxes Oh; I know what's going on. -fsanitize=address should be a a linker flag, in addition to being a compiler flag
 
3:00 AM
macs lol
@QPaysTaxes yes but most people homebrew it instead
 
3:14 AM
@Andy Why exactly do you want to store the config in the database?
 
3:27 AM
@QPaysTaxes Yes, but not on my phone :p
@QPaysTaxes Python is usually interpreted, but yes
@QPaysTaxes Yes and yes (clang is standard-abiding)
@QPaysTaxes Thats great IMO :)
 
@SmokeDetector I don't get FIRE highlighting on this question, I guess because Metasmoke now displays a disambiguation page when there are multiple records for one post
(which is extremely nice, thanks!)
 
@QPaysTaxes Ah, makes sense
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, link at end of body, +2 more: maleenhancementshop.info/primal-x/ by Primal X on drupal.SE
tpu- by tripleee
 
3:43 AM
@QPaysTaxes Whoops, I didn't read any context :D
@QPaysTaxes Maybe...but I don't know your friend so I don't have a clue. What do you mean by terrible?
@QPaysTaxes Ah. Maybe...but who knows? You'd have to ask him, I guess
 
@QPaysTaxes getting honest-to-$dmr sources to compile and run on Windows is usually the big problem with reasonably portable code
for fun, check the number of platform-specific #ifdefs in any cross-platform project and count how many Windows vs Darwin vs Linux vs BSD you see
 
@quartata Because everything we are talking about storing is configuration data. Blacklists, patterns, priviledges, all of it is telling Smokey how to run. Without it, the code can't do anything.
Adding the "configuration" settings that are instance specific should be stored with the rest of the configuration data.
Changing the location of an instance or adding a key shouldn't require a code change. I should be able to open up either the database (or another way of modifying settings), make the change and it work (maybe after a restart or way to refresh settings)
The concern everyone is having is around synchronizing instances. This is valid, but is out one step to far. Focus on a single instance first. Pull as much "configuration" out of the code as you can.
 
@QPaysTaxes it's not so much about the C standard as about differences in the underlying platforms ... most places have fork() for example, while on Windows the process model is different
 
The next step - keeping the instances on the same page - needs to happen, but it needs to happen at a "how do we design this to be robust and scalable" level, not a "I want this config value to always be updated this config value to only update every 15 minutes and this one can update whenever" level.
 
early DOS C compilers had to slightly fake that, too; but these days, yeah, pretty much
though esoteric things like forks (on Mac) and junctions (I think it's called?) on NTFS are of course still specific to their architectures
@QPaysTaxes just sayin', deep down Windows files aren't entirely conformant with the "de facto standard" I/O model
 
3:55 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body: vmax male enhancement by miesoler on meta.SE
tpu- by tripleee
 
@QPaysTaxes yes yes, those are properly supported all over the place now
but like I said, early attempts to implement them on DOS ended up being slightly kinky because the underlying model wasn't a complete match
I don't remember the specifics, just that the Turbo C manual I used at the time said "this exists for reasons of Unix(tm) compatibility" and IIRC had pointers to native replacements
 
4:25 AM
Restart: API quota is 18864.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: How can I reprogram a usb as a keyboard by Retard Finder on security.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: gomusclebuilding.com/testoultra-india/ by wqsdgywdxse on askubuntu.com
tpu- by Jan Dvorak
 
be nice
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, +1 more: brainfireadvice.com/femora-cream/ by Bisklim on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Jan Dvorak
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Chantel ST Claire Especially if we show up by sarahcorr14 on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by tripleee
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Develop Muscle Fast - Add Squats For Your Program by stybvtq on askubuntu.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: Our skin can’t invariably protect itself. Seeing that by xitesjfvaxer on superuser.com
tpu- by Jan Dvorak
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, username similar to website in answer: How to stop windows 10 to automatically install display drivers of AMD? by Primebaze on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: israelbigmarket.com/avalure-review/ by Gerecialex on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Jan Dvorak
 
5:15 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: Obtain Skin Beauty! How Scrubs Assistance! by FredFloria on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Jan Dvorak
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer: How do you handle the Immolator move "Hand Crafted"? by Danial Smith on rpg.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, +2 more: musclebuildingbuy.com/phallyx/ by Kathryn Riky on graphicdesign.SE
 
2 tpu-
 
tpu- by Jan Dvorak
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: be able to acquire smoother, less assailable, and extra radiant skin for by klewisjuriya on apple.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: In the case of the composition of Avalure cream by Gerecialex on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by tripleee
 
5:38 AM
!!/blacklist-keyword avalure
 
@tripleee Blacklisted avalure
CI on d3d8c34 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev d3d8c34 (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of avalure by tripleee --autopull) (running on teward / Midnight Eclipse)
Restart: API quota is 18426.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: In preference to shopping for a whole by timostef867 on meta.SE
tpu- by tripleee
 
the blacklisting added an empty line again, is that a regression?
 
5:54 AM
hello people :)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body: x4up.org/peak-test-extreme/ by agonisosaj on askubuntu.com
tpu- by tripleee
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: The onars. ⇨Recent studies on impact by rwatanjni on askubuntu.com
tpu- by tripleee
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link inside deeply nested blockquotes, pattern-matching website in body: phallyx Like ladies, men confront their? by MildredBoyer on superuser.com
 
tpu- by tripleee
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: Enhance Your Strength And Stamina With Phallyx by maraeoclark on askubuntu.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: israelbigmarket.com/avalure-review/ by nstonjuri on askubuntu.com
tpu- by tripleee
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, username similar to website in answer: How to Add Expires headers by Europad Tours on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by tripleee
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body: Please Rate my Football Blogs by Tasim Pwd on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Avalure is going to no longer provide any side results by Gerecialex on apple.SE
tpu- by tripleee
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Android Studio Rendering Problems NOTE: This project contains Java compilation errors by SSALPHAX on stackoverflow.com
fp- by tripleee
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: Cla safflower oil their minor there by debbiegreen845 on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
6:34 AM
!!/blacklist-website getclasaffloweroil\.com
 
@tripleee Blacklisted getclasaffloweroil\.com
CI on c02eab5 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 18049.
 
created an empty line there too
I'll update the PR
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: PrimalX This pill has been voted number 1 in late studies by Robedfert on superuser.com
tpu- by Jan Dvorak
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: fitnesseducations.com/testo-ultra-india/ by fayyefranns on askubuntu.com
tpu- by Ferrybig
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Oracle "(+)" Operator by Adams victor on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by tripleee
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: purelifegreencoffeebeanadvice.com/rejuvilane/ by charlesjkingop on drupal.SE
tpu- by Jan Dvorak
 
PR updated
but again that's just the symptoms
 
6:52 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Email in answer: When was "antimatter" first used? by ahmad ismail on english.SE
naa- by kayess on How to Add Expires headers [MS]
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body, +2 more: gomusclebuilding.com/testoultra-india/ by Datzsloi on askubuntu.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in username, bad keyword with email in body, email in body: unitychaoscomputers by blankatm on travel.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Hebrew "shemen" versus Latin "semen" by Trevor Barnes on linguistics.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: Optic Garcinia Cambogia by Optic Garcinia on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: www.health2facts.org/primalx-male-enhancement/ by colitylec on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by tripleee on Optic Garcinia Cambogia [MS]
tpu- by Ferrybig
tpu- by Ferrybig on unitychaoscomputers [MS]
 
@SmokeDetector that's some crazy kook, not exactly spam necessarily but hard to find what else to call it
or rather, a curious form of spam but definitely spam nonetheless
 
@ThomasWard is something peculiar on your system? I can't repro here
hang on, wait, the 'a+' mode seems to behave differently on Python 3 (I speculate)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Increasing Sexual Desire And Nice Penis Size by gritjam on apple.SE
tpu- by Ferrybig
 
@YvetteColomb o/
 
7:03 AM
tpu- by tripleee
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted username, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: the dangerous outcomes of solar rays and strain by klewisjuriya on stackoverflow.com
fp- by tripleee
 
"mostly dots" I don't think so -- there was a long line of them but just a single line in a long post
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Ogen Labs Test Booster.. insulates you from this procedure by nainokonull on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Ferrybig
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: these procedures can stress out your epidermis much more by Gerecialex on askubuntu.com
tpu- by tripleee
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How to Add Expires headers by Vicky Bhardwaj on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive title detected: JSP, HTML, How the fuck by Alexa winchester on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: Novellus Skin Brush your lips with an by JerryMichie on drupal.SE
tpu- by tripleee
 
7:23 AM
@SmokeDetector k
though I edited out the spam link because the answer seemed actually useful
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Best scanpst.exe alternative to repair corrupt PST file by Danny Brown on softwarerecs.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-Latin answer: Spring security customer token enhancer not invoked by tcmtang on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector oops, correction, NAA
@SmokeDetector naa
 
@tripleee Recorded answer as an NAA in metasmoke.
fp- by Glorfindel on JSP, HTML, How the fuck [MS]
 
7:45 AM
@Ferrybig hi \o :)
 
naa- by tripleee
tpu- by Yvette
 
@QPaysTaxes I like the first :) too cute
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: maleenhancementshop.info/alpha-male-ex/ by junewofford on apple.SE
tpu- by Henders
 

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