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01:53
@KarlKatzke ? I think they are soil stacks? not completely sure, they are pipes coming up out of a roof located near the bathroom and kitchen of the old house (didn't realize there was a difference between vent and soil...not sure which kind these are, but I'm assuming from discussion they are soil)...
 
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07:45
@shirlockhomes - I hear you wanted to chat about radon? I'm online for the next 8 hours :-)
 
5 hours later…
13:02
Wikipedia makes me laugh sometimes. "stack vent, which is sometimes called a stink pipe." The source was from a lady interviewed about a cat burglar who attached a garden hose to the vent stack to gain access to the building. So it is sometimes called a Stink pipe by a lady (who is not a plumber), when describing how a burglar broke in.
Way to go Wikipedia!
@Tester101 lolz
k pretty sure these are stack vents coming out of the old asphalt roof....but I'd need to poke around to actually know...
@waxeagle I'd say they are stack vents... Unless you have a toilet on the roof.
but I'm still not sure I'd know the difference...
@Tester101 yeah no :)
Poop goes in soil stack, air goes in vent stack.
But they are the same pipe (in most cases).
@Tester101 gotcha
13:17
I have to agree with the Urban Dictionary on the Stink Pipe definition. See number 2. Stink pipe : An arsehole, anus, ect.
@Tester101 Wait. How does watering the vent stack unlock the front door?
Nevermind. More coffee for me.
@SteveJackson Not sure. Maybe if you put one end in the vent, and the other end in a window, you can stink the occupants out.
Seems the term "Stink Pipe", is popular in merry old England.
"he put the 'ose in the ol' stink pipe, an climbed the house, he did" </bad English accent>
I kinda like the distinction from a fan vent, but then a bathroom fan is a "stink fan/fart fan" too, so it would logically be connected to the stink pipe.
DO NOT connect your Stink fan to your Stink pipe! Bad things will happen.
@Tester101 oh gosh....that could be amazingly bad...
you don't want to pull anything out of that pipe :)
 
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19:58
Welcome to Project Update Thursday
Active in here. :)
Afternoon
Kitchen renovation is in progress
pictures are being taken daily
I did my project update yesterday... kinda jumped the gun.
24 hours ago, by Karl Katzke
No, I didn't. :( However, i will be doing a bathroom this weekend, and someone will be on hand to take pictures.
I didn't want to say anything because @Tester101's comment shouldn't be scrolled off the screen
(There's pictures to date if you click through)
hah
20:05
To make sure it gets added to the chat log:
7 hours ago, by Tester101
DO NOT connect your Stink fan to your Stink pipe! Bad things will happen.
snicker
Alright, so everyone else? Updates? Step on up, don't be afraid. We don't bite unless you ask.
Is there a baseboard that is guaranteed to be made forever?
Ranch casing. But it's kinda plain.
Renovating and dealing with adding new trim in places where there wasn't some before is a real headache
The only one I know that's guaranteed to be made forever is one you cut yourself from stock.
20:13
@KarlKatzke I was going to suggest finding a router bit that matches the profile you buy
@Doresoom Doesn't always work. Most of the profiles you buy are cut with knives (like a staggered dado saw) and the contours are impossible to get with a router bit.
And then making copies and storing them in a safe
Like the "kilo"
@Aaron bahaha! don't forget the glass enclosure
@KarlKatzke I learned something new today!
grin You can have a real millwork shop match any old profile, though they will charge you an arm and a leg to create the knives for that profile.
My latest code changes are checked in, no pressing email message, 65°F outside... I'm outta here. You guys can turn the disco ball on now. I'll be back to close up shop in an hour or so.
20:24
Alright, if no one has project updates, what about future projects?
Just got the last windows in, I'm planning on finishing my exterior siding, and getting flooring in the living room this summer.
Paint, move a bunch of stuff, paint some more, move some more stuff, paint. Oh and maybe take my dishwasher out back and shoot it.
Office space moment with your dishwasher?
Gettin there
Oh, and I forgot -- I really need to get the garage cleaned out after the siding is done and I have two pieces of furniture to build.
I think we're painting this weekend..i might get to some electrical troubleshooting...
20:27
Oh, I hate electrical troubleshooting. I always get into WTF zone.
The best part about my dishwasher is they installed the tile floor after the dishwasher was in. I'm not sure it's coming back out of there.
Attic insulating and flooring is all I have on the horizon. Not exciting, and I'm only doing it in bits as there is so much junk up there, but it needs doing
Like finding the aluminum 220 for the furnace at my sister's house mated to copper without any anticorrosion goo and just wrapped in tape, in a box in the basement with the back open to the OUTSIDE ... in San Fran CA, where there's no salt to corrode anything.
Steve: Yeah, I just did that myself at my house. I hate myself for it, but there was no way to jack the counters up to tile under the dishwasher and no way to remove the cabinets without destroying them. I will end up lifting the countertop if I ever need to remove the dishwasher.
Is that an option for you?
@Karl My counter is a pretty nice tile job - I think I'm stuck. I can probably chip up two floor tiles, but matching them will likely be an adventure. Hopefully I can just keep the dishwasher fixed for awhile.
I keep eyeing it as well, I might just get lucky. There's a little gap between the top of the dishwasher and the counter. Cross that bridge when I get there I guess.
@SteveJackson You don't think the counter could lift as one piece? I guess that's why I stick to formica countertops ... that, and I'm cheap. I suppose it wouldn't work in a house that has an L-shaped counter, but mine's a galley kitchen.
On the bright side, I bought a new dishwasher before I tiled the old one in. :D
20:33
I hadn't considered it really. Even if the whole thing wouldn't lift out I might be able to cheat and cut it under the sink edge.
20:48
Use one of the new oscillating multitools... you'll be able to cut it free of the countertops easily.
It'll cut the cabinet flush with the surface.
Bring over three strong friends and offer to buy them beers after the job's done, make sure they lift it level and don't crack it...
future projects includes a garden bed
with some pressure treated lumber and then some lawn fabric, with mulch on top of it
@Aaron There's a stack for that :)
wrong site, close and migrate thread, ban user.
;)
@Aaron I'd use cedar instead of PT. It looks nicer, and no danger of poisoning the plants.
So what's the deal with PT twisting on fence posts? I'd never heard of that before last month.
20:57
Hey, anyone have advice on how to get the significant other to stop spending money? ;) I told her not to buy curtain rods, because I can make some out of closet rod and we just have to buy the finials, and total cost was going to be something like $50 for two huge sets of windows. What does she do? Buys Pottery Barn curtain rods with all the accessories, total bill something like $250 and they sag.
@SteveJackson Usually wet wood, in my experience.
@KarlKatzke I think you're in the wrong SE chatroom for that question
@KarlKatzke lol when you figure it out let us know :). Also keep her off pintrest :)
@waxeagle did not know about the gardening one
(unless she cooks, and then get her on Pintrest asap)
I do the cooking, usually. :-P
20:58
@Aaron come on by we can use your gardening questions :)
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Relationships

Proposed Q&A site for people seeking answers to questions about dating, long term relationships, love, marriage or other commitments, and everything else typically considered a "relationship". (Intended to encompass the Love and Dating sites and extend them.)

Currently in commitment.

That sounds like a dumping ground for horrible whiny questions.
currently "in commitment" I C WHAT U DID THERE
So, we had a bunch of drain work done for the gutters etc because they all sucked
20:59
LULZ
Only 8%. seems like it has commitment issues.
3
Oh, french drain and whatnot?
in reference to my question from earlier in the week about the slipped staircase, they put a brick course around the top stair, and there's a tiny 1" pipe maybe at the "low point" of that step
The problem is they didn't put a screen on it (it's horizontal (but sloped down, so it does drain), so there is the possibility for stuff that falls to block this little pipe
and I think some dirt has gotten in there, and typically the flow rate on this little pipe isn't enough to really push stuff out of the way
So, question: fire up the pressure washer to blast the stuff "in" the pipe into the larger pipes downstream of it (that tie into the sump pump/gutters/etc), or just pull all the leaves away once in a while
@KarlKatzke A little bit of french drain, but mostly running the drains underground with a slope so the water goes away from the house rather than towards the house
I'd remove leaves and things when possible, then flush it with garden hose or snake it if it gets clogged.
omg @KarlKatzke
HI EVERYONE! I MISSED YOU ALL SO MUCH! hugs
21:06
@Aarthi OMG Aarthi!
hugs
@Aarthi @KarlKatzke had a question about stopping women from shopping earlier. any advice?
@Tester101 budgets, tell her you prefer her naked anyway, ummm
HAAAAHAHA. Oh, man, on the topic of structural engineering: $100 bras.
( and the room goes dead silent. )
heh
see, me, a good bra is totally worth that money
21:10
@KarlKatzke but at least you've learned not to put them in the dryer
especially one that will Get It Done
Well, they're supporting things that definitely need support, and they look a lot better, but sheesh. And yes, they don't get thrown in with the normal laundry, since I'm a GUY, and don't separate things as I dump the entire hamper into the washer. Everything gets pre-sorted and we're a lot happier.
I will have lots of updates next week from the work we're doing this coming weekend. Packing up my saw and stuff tonight .... why is it that I sort of get excited when I get to bust out the wet saw?
What's people's opinions on these:
$100 BRA! Does it make coffee or something?
I see it as an easy way to squeeze another receptacle into a crowded area/gang box
21:15
No, but my girlfriend makes great coffee. Too bad I don't drink it. ;)
@Tester101 bah Karl did it better
@Aaron They're rare to see in professionally done work, so they shout "homeowner modified this" to me when I'm looking at them, sadly.
@Aarthi Actually, it holds the person who does it up, if we're being technical.
true
man this room is popping!
:D
have we talked about birthday celebrations?
hey, I am trying to keep things on topic here
Victoria's secret... 1,000% markup.
CAKE!
21:17
Victoria's Secret is cheap fabric :<
Wow, markdown is retarded, it rendered that I for a half second as a I with two stars around it before it figured out it was supposed to be bolded
yes yes all the cake
Oh, Vicky's secret doesn't work for what my girlfriend's packing. It'd be cheaper, I think. We have to go to a specialty shop.
Victoria is a lie?
Definitely a lie.
21:18
@KarlKatzke Ah, she's an E+
Like I said, we're talking structural engineering here.
@Aarthi 32G, actually.
:o holy shamoley
The G is for "Gee willikers!"
Everything is bigger in Texas.
There's a joke in there somewhere about making sure to use the approriate header or king stud when engineering to carry the load, but I'm too lazy to actually find it
21:21
/me shrugs
I have no complaints
except how much everything costs when I'm trying to finish a renovation so I can sell the house and we can buy the next one where things will cost even more
yaaay reno
@KarlKatzke you were gone forever. how did all of that end up going? your servers no longer on fire?
srsly. Just got my tax return. $1000 in self leveling cement - ordered.
So is self-leveling cement just a little more runny so it flows to a level surface like water?
It's magic. Or science. I always get those two confused.
21:24
@Aarthi To an extent. I'm still working on that project -- things will light back up here in about another two months when we get the $100k of equipment ordered and shipped, and I have to fly up to put it all together. There's a bit about the hardware testing I've been doing on my blog, not that anyone's actually interested in that.
write it up for the SF blog!
@Aaron Yeah, and it usually sets up pretty fast to a smooth surface that's good for tile adhesion. If you've got a dip in your floor that would normally show through tile, SLC is a good way to remove it, but it takes a lot of skill to pour.
'cause right now that blog is All SE Employees, All The Time
The SF blog?
21:26
SF in this context = serverfault
serverfault!
Ahhhh. Yeah, as long as they don't have a problem with it having been published on my blog first, they're welcome to borrow this entry: karlkatzke.com/satasas-raid-cards-dont-perform ... based on this SF question: serverfault.com/questions/333856/…
Speaking of blogs... @Aarthi what ever happened to the IKEA post?
... hides
uh oh
now @RebeccaChernoff is here too
21:31
Did we do something wrong!?
@Aaron lies. all lies.
Watch chat empty out like someone just shouted "La migra!" at a tract home job site.
@RebeccaChernoff! stealing my community! :< (clutches DIY)
@KarlKatzke :o
you just said that!
@KarlKatzke or at Home Depot at 9am on Saturday morning
@Tester101 I am about to nom on all your precious reps q:
21:35
sooo can I change my gravatar without having a gravatar account?
@KarlKatzke At my rehearsal dinner I had flown into town without a jacket and it was a little cool. My future uncle-in-law let me borrow his jacket. Strangest service I'd ever had, but I figured it was because I was the groom, there was a lot going on, whatever. Realized later, I was wearing a CBP jacket at a tex-mex restaurant.
@Aaron I don't think so. I've had one for so long though that I can't remember.
LOL @SteveJackson
@SteveJackson Did you check your food for cucaracha parts?
I did feel awful the next day, but that was more likely alcohol-induced - probably killed anything I ate.
@Aarthi when is the birthday contest supposed to happen?
21:44
@Aarthi By the way, the reason I've been hanging around again is the gift package that I got with the T-shirt, hat, pen, stickers, etc. I had kind of forgotten about hanging around online a bit since I was so busy with projects at work last winter, but the package reminded me of what I was missing. Just an idea if you need to re-attract some of the better contributors. :)
... not that I'm one of the better contributors, just that it brought me back from semi-retired. :-P
We should give free stuff to people who actually use a question as a title. Putting a ? at the end of a bunch of words, does not make it a question.
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"Finishing window installation?"
Can I earn the Copy Editor badge again?
Yeah, there needs to be more rewards for people to copy edit stuff. I wish I could upvote the editors.
Ok, I'm gonna close up, but keep the party going. Don't kill the disco ball just because of me.
Thanks for joining this weeks PUT
22:01
@Tester101 Humm not sure. Soon? :D
We should do it soon
aaaargh if only i can get all this other stuff done

Project Update Thursday - 1 Mar 2012

2 hours ago, 2 hours 1 minute total – 164 messages, 10 users, 6 stars

Bookmarked 10 secs ago by BMitch

@Aarthi Story of my life.
Seriously. Now that I took on this Other Job, life be carazy, yo.
They have me slaving working really hard all the time
Hey didn't y'all want some sort of WP plugin?
At least you don't have the awesome weather that we've got down here :)
I'd hate for you to be slaving away on a beautiful day
@Tester had an idea for autolinking our blog posts to the blog's FB and G+ pages.
22:04
is the G+ post a manual process right now?
It was the last time I did it. I think Tester did the last couple.
I see it on G+ before I notice the new blog link
New blog link takes awhile to show, I think it's on a poll.
Hey @BMitch, are you planning on doing a plumb bob blog entry? We need a Plumb Primer
I should be able to put something together, but it might be a bit
@BMitch truth. it's oogly out today
22:07
I think I'll do the dryer lint cleaner review first
Sweet. All I'm doing is painting and cussing at my dishwasher, there's not a lot to blog on.
and it's 65 out here, everyone is running around in short sleeves
@SteveJackson "The Finer Points of Cursing Out Inanimate Objects"
:( my cold, north-facing apartment that i hate
That's practically my job description.
:D
Every sysadmin's subtitle
22:08
lol
Mouse poop on the dishwasher: can one tell how old is it?
Ohh, perfect addition to my resume: "I specialize in C, PHP, Perl, and Cursing out inanimate objects"
whoa!
@Aaron has a grav now!
Is it.....graaavy?
81 and cloudy...
@BMitch I still remember when I had added 'curses' to my resume and I had my mom proofread it...
22:12
@Aarthi I decided to give in
did our rep just get recalculated?
yes
STORM THE CASTLE
Wooo I got a point!
TAKE NO PRISONERS
22:17
ok, I thought I had really pissed someone off for a second there
Whoah! What caused the recalc?
aww i lost 9 points
I lost 65
154
Q: Upcoming Reputation History Changes

Nick CraverUpdate: this is now being tested on meta, we'll be watching for bugs and such over the next few days. During the rollout you will see empty reptuation tabs on profiles as we transition to the new storage behind the scenes, they'll be restored as the recalc rolls though each user. Behind the s...

That and @RebeccaChernoff
I gained about ... what, 50? 150? Can't remember what mine used to be.
22:18
She's made of magic -- dark magic.
Is that like dark chocolate? I like dark chocolate.
More like duct tape
well, there goes 90+ points
I love duct tape
I had my recalc a few months ago anyway. Some kind soul upvoted me triggering the recalc.
22:20
do you lose points when a question is migrated immediately or only after a recalc?
@KarlKatzke <3 youdabest
I think the idea is that it's now automatic, before you had to wait for a recalc.
Thanks to @Karl we can jam out and @BMitch is still here :)
damn, been out plowing snow, missed you all again
you didn't miss us, I never heard any gunshots ;oP
I just read about the age of mouse poop.
22:22
welcome back @shirlockhomes, how deep is it?
gotta taste it to see if it is fresh
the snow, not the mouse poop
maybe 10 inches so far, not much
snow, not poop
Hello!
it's 65 down here, everyone out in short sleeves
22:23
Hi sweetie.... hehehehehhehe
81 here
no real snow storms this year
just a dusting or two
stop it guys, 22, windy, snow and I gotta go plow again tonight
this is really the first real snow all winter. be so unusual
I'm just trying to convince you to move south so you can get more use out of that boat
actually, wife retires at end of school year and we are going to Florida for a month or 6 weeks to look at properties
22:25
ooo!
that'll be pretty slick
I think the Carver would look great in Tampa bay
Or Boca Raton
cruise the keys
you can join us Aarthi
My company's office is near Boca -- I love going out on everyone's boats when I'm there visiting.
I'll leave the wife on shore!!! lamo
22:27
are you going for the two home retirement plan? South to avoid the snow, north to avoid the heat?
best plan
got two houses here, maybe buy a couple more so we got one for summers in Maine
the rental income is great
are they vacation places or homes?
they are regular homes
just outside portland in Windham maine
I wouldn't mind picking up a couple rental units, but I have to be careful around here, lots of cheaply built places and lots of "group houses" with a half dozen college kids crammed in
22:31
Maine's one of the places I'd like to live ... Along with NH and VT. But my girlfriend can't really find work there. :( We're stuck with bigger cities where her company has offices.
Yeah, @BMitch, that's part of the problem down here. The construction is so shoddy in the first place, and so many houses have been 'flipped'...
There is very low unemployment in Portland, lots of professional jobs, out growth of the Boston market. but rest of the state sucks
Only way I'd consider it in the DC area is to get a small 2 level town house near a business park and rent it as a furnished place to a business traveler
I only consider single family houses as investments. I manage a couple of apt houses and they are a pain in thd ass
Well, she's in a specialized field relating to floodplain drainage, so we can only move where the work is. I'm employable anywhere, like most IT guys. DC or Denver are probably our next two possibilities if we don't get stuck in Austin.
Eek, I bet; a former roomie's dad is a landlord and oh heavens, the hassle of apartments!
22:35
my family has a vacation cottage on the NC outer banks, and the wear and tear those places get from the crazy rental seasons and year round weather is nuts
Trying to buy another house before the snow clears, better deals. some forclosures, but not as many as some states
my son is considering an offer from SpaceX in AZ. he is not sure he likes the desert
but it's SpaceX, he's gotta take that!
he also has an offer from MS in Readmond, and he has interned there. he like that area better
I'm also told AZ has some strict light pollution laws so you can actually see the stars at night
Ya I hear ya. he loves what SpaceX is doing
22:38
I can't live in the PNW again, unfortunately, or we would've already moved there. I get seasonal depression and no amount of special light bulbs or vitamin D can help it.
Redmond may be a nicer place to live, but I personally avoid MS
DC cost of living is not cheap
be warned
He always thought MS was the evil enpire untill he went to workj there. He was working on Windows 8 and loved the culture and pay
@Aaron, tell me about it, the places they are building next to me are selling at crazy prices
Whereabouts?
22:41
prices here are still high also
Fairfax, end of the Orange line
didn't get as bad a hit
Cost of living isn't that big of an issue. Beside being the brains of the outfit, she'll also be the moneymaker. I've sort of topped out the pay scale for what I do, +/- $20k... she's not even really started yet.
Hey, Veritec is retiring. Bummer
lets play guess the square footage: 3br/3.5ba, 4 story, $525k starting price
22:43
LOLOLOLOLOL
1400 sq ft?
row house or single
row house
@KarlKatzke ding ding: 1448
22:44
wooooooo
Holy Crap!!!!
with 4 stories, the thing is all stairs
elvators
the 2 car garage is 1 car wide
bumper to bumper
that is DC for ya
22:45
Yeah, that's about what I figured. I moved from Portland, OR to Texas -- they're getting about that much in Portland now.
Love DC, but a lot of money there
it's crazy, everyone in my neighborhood loves it because it makes our junk look good
their prices are all off the charts
@BMitch Oh I rented a condo like that once in Virginia Beach, everyone was obsessed about parking spaces and they insisted that puny garage counted as two - maybe with a crowbar.
OMG you in a redneck haven?
them shows on TV are hilarious
@shirlockhomes, BTW, the 2470sf starts at $700k, still 3br/3.5ba
22:48
thought we were talking Texas
You know what else is crazy besides the 4 story townhouses
the over/under townhouses they have in some areas - like in Kentlands
they're wider and deeper, so they're still not small
ya i have seen some of them
over/under what?
but the bottom 2 floors are one unit, and there are 2 entrance doors
we've got a section of 2 over 1 next to us
22:49
the one for the top unit just opens to a monster flight of stairs, and then you have your 2 stories
lots of them around Dupont
one unit as the basement, and two townhouse units above it
I'm probably using the wrong word for them
but you just open the door for the 'upstairs' home and it's just a flight and a half of stairs leading straight up to the living room
I would go nuts
Aren't those called walk-ups or something?
Long way to collect pizza :) We had an apartment like that growing up.
22:51
I'd hate those on move in day
My waistline would thank me, tho.
@Aarthi pfft, you live in NYC/NJ, you get your walking in ;oP
laughs truth!
I bet you are a skinny minny
I have a dear friend of mine that moves often. I've moved her piano six times over a dozen flights of stairs. I was out of town when she moved this summer, but even if I wasn't I'd probably make something up at this point - that thing gives me nightmares.
22:53
my projects up there were some of my best exercise, no driving from point to point
@shirlockhomes nope! curvy gal, I am
plowing is good core ody exercise. lol
Yahoo!!!!
Hey everyone -- it's our favorite DIY mod, @ChrisF
ugh, that's one thing I've gotten spoiled with in texas. Everything's pretty much 1 story. I remember coming home from the gym in Portland after having my ass kicked by a trainer and having to walk up four flights of stairs ... ended up going up on my butt the last two flights.
22:54
I got some of my best exercise in during my college days, lots of walking between the buildings
@Aarthi Evening all
So, that right hand house (not the one with the white slat bump-out)
Welcome from the colonies
but that doorway and the door you see goes straight up 2 flights of stais for the top 2 floors (1 unit)
nite nite Aarthi
22:54
Just checking you're all behaving yourselves :)
Or, you turn right as you pass through that arch, and open the doorway to the bottom unit (which is the bottom 2 floors)
I am insigating
@shirlockhomes aww bye hon! /waves
XOXOXOXOXO
22:55
l8r @Aarthi
aww bye everyone~! hugs and love to all!
Later, @Aarthi. Don't work too hard.
And later everyone, I"m assuming I should go get some work done this evening. :)
can't help it, I'm greek, we hug a lot. lolo
yup, now that @ChrisF is here, we should all run off :)
correct! run away from Chris!
22:57
@shirlockhomes lol
be good guys, the boss is here. lol
/turns off the disco ball.
Right in that case I'm off to close all the questions....
@Aaron Yeah that's strange. It's bizarre what you can talk yourself into I guess.
22:58
been some pretty lame questions lately
I gotta start throwing some softballs out there
haven;t had a lot of time to write, but some wierd questions
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Q: Should I bind the edge of an unbound remnant rug? If so, how do I do so?

AarthiI was looking at possible area rugs for my apartment and found that the cheapest one was something called an "unbound remnant." However, a little googling revealed that unbound remnants shed their edges like crazy! I don't want that to happen, but I don't know if I can afford to bind it. Should ...

like that one? :P
That happens from time to time
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