TRPG General Chat

David Coffron

2:03 PM

@Yuuki How have I never played a cowboy character... Like ever

GcL

@DavidCoffron So, challenge accepted?

kviiri

My character in DL:Reloaded was an old hunter lady from the bayous in Louisiana, who later became a Texas Ranger.

Being a Texas Ranger was conceptually quite awesome, I kinda want to do it again in a different system

DL?

Deadlands

ah gotcha

2:11 PM

Reloaded is a "remake" of the game on Savage Worlds engine

Rubiksmoose

huh

kviiri

The Deadlands lore has the USA and CSA still in civil war around 1870's, although it's slowed down to something like a cold war because of monsters and whatnot. And CSA is no longer doing slavery which is kinda nice.

Texas Rangers are the CSA's "secret police" in a sense. They are somewhere between police, military and intelligence, with their main duty being to "shoot it or recruit it" when it comes to any paranormal stuff going on in the Confederate.

GcL

Ooo you can play as the traitors. That's an interesting perspective to try to role play.

kviiri

@GcL The Civil War isn't really the main conflict in Deadlands. There's spooky business with hellish influences going on. Undead, witchcraft, whatnot. Plus some railroad companies that are quite literally at war with each other

Rubiksmoose

huh that sounds like an interesting setting (glad slavery is not a part of it)

GcL

2:16 PM

A literal railroad war. Seems like a parallel track to the main story.

Yuuki

@kviiri That last part feels very "Lost Cause revisionism" to me...

GcL

@kviiri How do you determine if someone is a witch? are there scales involved?

kviiri

@Yuuki I see what you mean, but it's probably more intended so you can play a Texas Ranger without feeling bad about it.

Yuuki

Slavery is so deeply entwined with the Confederacy that trying to invoke the historical Civil War and just hand-waving "the CSA doesn't do slavery" is very problematic to me.

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kviiri

Yep, I see what you mean.

Hot RPG Questions

2:19 PM

3

Q: Can a monk's single staff be considered dual wielded, as per the Dual Wielder feat?

If a monk uses a staff and has the Dual Wielder feat, can they use a 1d6 attack for one hand then 1d6 attack bonus for the other, plus gaining +1 to AC for holding a melee weapon in each hand? Seems a bit much to otherwise require 2 staves.

GcL

@Yuuki Yeah, but any part of history is nice if you just cut out or gloss over the egregiously bad parts of the period. It's like medieval Europe is a pretty nice setting if you ignore that most cities were open sewers and all the other bad parts.

Rubiksmoose

@Yuuki yeah maybe you are right there actually. I was thinking more from a don't want to have to deal with the topic at the table type of mentality, but I do see how that would be extremely problematic

Yuuki

@kviiri The Rangers existed before and after the Civil War, you could definitely play a setting without the revisionism.

@GcL Except that Civil War revisionism is a Very Real Problem in the Deep South.

kviiri

@Yuuki That's true

GcL

@Yuuki Ugh... don't remind me. It was such a nice Friday before I thought about that part of the country and history.

Rubiksmoose

2:21 PM

Let's talk more about cowboys!

GcL

Can't we just go back to worrying about the war the railroads are having and the problem with the graveyard?

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Rubiksmoose

Is there an well-regarded RPG with a wild west setting?

kviiri

@Yuuki In-universe, the Confederate scrapping slavery was a last-ditch effort to ally with Europe (and it worked, hence the prolonged conflict) but that's of course rather Thermian and doesn't really change a thing.

Rubiksmoose

(honestly something I was wondering about before we got sidetracked so to speak)

GcL

I mean, somebody has to take care of to make sure the bodies stay in the ground.

kviiri

2:22 PM

@Rubiksmoose I think Deadlands is well-regarded, generally. But I personally don't think it's good :-)

Yuuki

I'm a Texan and I'm incredibly concerned at how I might have turned out if it wasn't for the fact that I grew up with Wikipedia and the Internet given how much willful ignorance there was (and still is) in our history classes.

GcL

@Yuuki Okay... spoiler alert for history... people weren't not people ever, and we're pretty awful if you ever take an honest look at it. /S

Rubiksmoose

embarrassing admission: I had no idea the Wild West era was that close to the Civil War.

But I really should have

GcL

Didn't you see that Wild Wild West documentary with Will Smith?

Rubiksmoose

@GcL don't even lol

Yuuki

2:25 PM

Blazing Saddles also.

GcL

Giant metal spiders were a real problem. I told you the railroad war is a real problem!

Rubiksmoose

I just watched part of that movie again. I unironically liked that movie as a child. It is so bad.

Yuuki

Kids have a special affinity for really bad movies.

GcL

Children like all sorts of awful things... like stale marshmallow cereal.

Rubiksmoose

@Yuuki yeah absolutely. For some reason in my mind the two periods were further apart. For no good reason.

GcL

2:26 PM

@Rubiksmoose Geographically separate at least.

Xirema

I suddenly feel the urge to attack a Giant Metal Crab by hitting its Weak Point for Massive Damage....

Yuuki

Probably because most westerns completely ignore the Civil War because it tarnishes the image of "The ~~South~~ West".

GcL

Plus, not a lot of time to worry about a civil war when there are freakin' undead and giant steam powered spiders shooting fireballs all over the place.

David Coffron

@GcL Right!? I have no idea why I liked that as a kid. When my cousins have them (and I'm babysitting) I'm like what on earth is this?

GcL

@Xirema better than a metal slime.

@DavidCoffron Aren't there so many things that you can say that about. Recoiling in revulsion as you say, " I liked what as a kid?! "

Except Metroid. Samus Aran was pretty boss. Rolling up into a ball and just truckin' along and up walls.

Is there a Metroid themed RPG?

Yuuki

2:30 PM

Metroid Prime?

GcL

Where's @BESW? I'm sure he's played it or at least heard of it.

@Yuuki Wasn't that a first person shooter?

Xirema

My takeaway right now is that my meme game is stale and I need to step it up.

kviiri

@Rubiksmoose I'm sorry for interjecting my non-RPG hobby into this otherwise neat topic, but it's funny how I play the ragtime piano and people associate it with two things: the Wild West (two or three decades too early) or prohibition-era gangstery (two or three decades too late)

Yuuki

Look, as far as video games go, the definition of RPG is so incredibly fuzzy that the term is almost meaningless.

David Coffron

@GcL Re: reddit.com/r/tabletop/comments/570mdp/…

Yuuki

2:31 PM

For a similar meaningless term, look to "roguelike".

kviiri

@Yuuki That's why you say "with RPG elements". Or used to, before you had "survival", "crafting" or something else

Rubiksmoose

@kviiri hah! You know 1) that is a really cool hobby and I love it 2) I would absolutely have fallen into that trap I think.

David Coffron

@Yuuki The RPG label in VGs is just a marketing tool imo (in most cases)

Rubiksmoose

@Yuuki ugh so much this

Yuuki

Pokemon occasionally appears on some "best of" RPG lists.

kviiri

2:33 PM

@Rubiksmoose I really like it as a hobby although it does have a rather nasty downside --- there are hardly any pianos to show off on, and the only audience at my home (my dearest SO) doesn't like the music I play :D

David Coffron

@Yuuki :facepalm:

Yuuki

Pokemon is fun, but I don't consider it an RPG.

David Coffron

An actual pokemon RPG may be fascinating, but the games we have are not that

Rubiksmoose

@Yuuki I mean... at least pokemon has leveling and stats which is better than some games it is applied to.

Xirema

@Yuuki Pokemon is either Tactics or Strategy, depending on how you delineate between those two genres.

kviiri

2:34 PM

@Rubiksmoose I was basically totally burnt out on piano music for three years. Then I borrowed my piano for a friend's wedding (I was the best man, not playing though) and not having the darned thing around made me miss playing it

Rubiksmoose

@kviiri we just got a piano! I'd offer it for your use but I think it may be geographically infeasible ;)

kviiri

@Rubiksmoose Cool! Acoustic, digital or some sort of hybrid?

GcL

Is it a mechapiano? Because that'd be sweet

kviiri

@GcL What's that? Is it related to player pianos?

Rubiksmoose

@kviiri Acoustic. Vertical. It was my grandparents' but they are moving so we paid to have it moved from their house to ours. As a kid I spent a lot of time making literal noise on that piano. It may not be the best (though I think it is of decvent quality) but I have a lot of memories of it.

GcL

2:36 PM

It's a man made robotic version of a piano designed to fight the real piano and defend Japan.

kviiri

@Rubiksmoose Neat! I absolutely love playing acoustic but it has some practical considerations to mind :)

Hence I'm trying to trick as many friends as possible to get one

Rubiksmoose

@GcL you had me until Japan. If I'm going ot put down good money for a piano that defends anything, it is going to be to defend my house lol.

David Coffron

This is pretty mech-like

kviiri

Acoustic pianos are dirt-cheap around here. They used to be fairly popular among middle class citizens, for what I don't know... but with people aging, and dying, and the next generations inheriting those pianos without a place to put them... it seems people'll just want to get rid of them, in most cases.

GcL

@Rubiksmoose Listen, it was made by looking at 23rd century technology. There's only one place you can get that kind of hardware, and it's Japan.

Rubiksmoose

2:38 PM

@DavidCoffron the acoustics/physics part of me looks at this with deep skepticism. However, all the rest of me thinks it looks pretty neat.

@kviiri :(

David Coffron

@Rubiksmoose I believe it is just electric.

Rubiksmoose

@DavidCoffron well... yeah that makes a lot more sense doesn't it.

lol

kviiri

@Rubiksmoose That'd be a good thing if those pianos found their ways to places where I could play them! Disposing or maintaining one'd probably cost less than just buying one

Rubiksmoose

(maybe I should try actually looking at it next time!

kviiri

I have a friend who has, and wants to run Deadlands: Classic

David Coffron

2:42 PM

@Rubiksmoose Although there are some accordion like chambers in the underpinning. Maybe? (although I'd also be very skeptical about the acoustics therein)

kviiri

But I'm... not quite convinced it's the type of game I'd want to play. In fact, I might count as slightly anti-convinced?

Rubiksmoose

@DavidCoffron Yeah I think you are right when you say it is just an electric piano all gussied up to look steampunky.

VtC? It seems more like a discussion prompt than an actual question currently.

kviiri

The only classic DL book I've seen was the Ranger Bible which kinda failed to convey me any sense of how it's supposed to be enjoyable

GcL

Meh. It's a question asking if a calculation is correct.

kviiri

Yeah, I think that was clarified after Rubik first posted

Rubiksmoose

2:51 PM

@GcL well that wasn't clear at first. Glad OP responded. (it could have easily been OP thinking this was a forum and just wanted a chat on how powerful it was and other related things for example)

But yeah, it is good to go now.

@kviiri huh, what about DL doesn't work for you?

(I ask this knowing nothing about it BTW except what you have told me here)

kviiri

@Rubiksmoose This might be too much extrapolation on my part, but the Ranger Bible and stuff carried over to Reloaded make it seem they're more focused on being realistic than being fun

Yuuki

I feel like that's a common problem in tabletops, trying to hit that realism with less concern about how much fun it would be.

kviiri

Eg. there's a system for gaining promotions, as a Texas Ranger. I did the math --- it'd take insane grind to get to officer tiers. And the book notes that lower ranks are often bound by duty, and IIRC explicitly says what punishments to except if you shy away from it to eg. adventure

Yuuki

Or maybe the community selects for designers that see in "realism".

kviiri

Reloaded has it somewhat better in that you basically join the Rangers when you're already a cut above the rest. The Ranger Bible of Classic talks at length all the kinds of menial duties you'll encounter as a Texas Ranger who has to actually enlist as a private.

Roll I dunno, maybe some d10's to see how well you dig that latrine pit.

"Earn your fun", might be the proper summary for that.

Rubiksmoose

2:59 PM

huh

yeah that doesn't seem terribly fun to me anyways

kviiri

@Rubiksmoose With that said, I remind you that I've never actually played Deadlands: Classic and most of the info I have about it comes from a single splatbook that I didn't bother to read very carefully.

Yuuki

@kviiri Roll an INT check for cholera.

kviiri

brb

nitsua60

@doppelgreener I've yet to play a campaign with a central chargen concept like that and didn't work out really fun for everyone. All elves, no arcane magic, everyone's a sailor... whatever. (cc: @Yuuki @kviiri)

Sdjz

Apparently this question is asking about a site that unfortunately seems to have pirated content. The question is not about the site per se and only a homebrew part of it so is this ok?

Rubiksmoose

3:10 PM

@Sdjz hmmmm generally we edit the site out of the question to make things kosher, but this is a bit trickier because they are indeed asking about the exact content.

kviiri

We can edit the question to ask about the existence of a Fencer class, and state that none exists

Sdjz

@Rubiksmoose yes, that was why I was asking

doppelgreener

Could ask on meta

kviiri

The exact source doesn't matter in proving it's homebrew

doppelgreener

In fact, I recommend asking on meta about it

kviiri

3:11 PM

^ I'm always game for meta

Rubiksmoose

@Sdjz yeah sorry I was kind of just thinking out loud (so to speak). I know you know that :)

kviiri

brb again

Sdjz

@Rubiksmoose Oh I didn't mean it like that, I was just confirming :)

doppelgreener

It seems like a tricky situation warranting a close look and thoughtful analysis, and worth recording and referencing in the future, making it an excellent thing for a meta to examine. Since it's also nearly unprecedented and results in a major question shift, it's absolutely not a thing for chat to hash out.

GcL

@Rubiksmoose Copy pasta the content. It's CC-BY so just include a proper citation of the author.

doppelgreener

3:14 PM

Remember to link to the meta you open in the question comments.

That said, focus on this issue: don't attempt to solve every situation where something like this might happen, just attempt to focus on solving this particular situation.

Rubiksmoose

I agree, this seems like a very good case for a meta. Several questions have been close to this issue before, but this one really has an issue and we need to set that precedent on meta.

@doppelgreener as a sidenote: I think this is really good advice for the vast majority of meta issues. Forcing answer to rule broadly means that answering is more difficult and lacks a context of a problem in a lot of cases.

doppelgreener

@Rubiksmoose Yep

Generally true

GcL

Actually, the content of the subclass doesn't matter for that question.

doppelgreener

Solve practical problems you're actually facing is good advice for meta too

GcL

The question is, "is the Fencer fighter subclass homebrew or UA?" The details aren't required for the answer.

There is no UA named Fencer regardless of details about the Fencer subclass.

doppelgreener

3:18 PM

@GcL It might be, if a subclass exists that is of the same name but with completely different content.

It may not exist now, but it potentially existing tomorrow is a thing to consider.

Because future answers of "Yes! It's official!" would not actually be correct for this situation.

Also, the question would probably be closed as unclear if it was the very first iteration: "What Fencer? How did you hear about this? Can you share what you're seeing with us?" — that suggests we probably shouldn't do that in a revision either.

GcL

How frequently is UA material rebranded and reposted?

Rubiksmoose

@GcL I mean we get UA generally once a month

GcL

@Rubiksmoose That's been simply renamed?

Rubiksmoose

@GcL what does renaming have to do with it? I think I may have missed a step here.

doppelgreener

I don't see how UA material getting rebranded and reposted relates to the current situation.

Rubiksmoose

3:22 PM

If next month, UA comes out with a Fencer UA subclass, that would create issues for the question with the context of the pirate-y site removed.

GcL

@Rubiksmoose Doppel's example where a subclass exists with a different name, then the content linked to would be relevant.

The Oracle

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Q: How should this question about content in a site that includes piracy be handled?

It is well known that we do not condone piracy and usually the way to handle links to pirated sources is to replace them with corresponding legal ones. However, how should we handle a situation where a question is asked about content that is in one such site but the content itself is just homebr...

discussion copyright

Rubiksmoose

@GcL see my previous message. I'm not sure what you are arguing, but it really isn't the core point here I think.

GcL

We could argue if you want. I'll start. Shoes are a form of socks.

doppelgreener

That's got nothing to do with UA rebranding and reposting.

Rubiksmoose

3:26 PM

I'm not keen on arguing for arguing's sake lol

GcL

The content would be relevant if it was probable that the content was an extant UA subclass with a different name.

doppelgreener

Ok, I think you're misunderstanding what I mean then.

GcL

In that case, the Fencer name would be insufficient to determine that it's not from UA.

Rubiksmoose

But in the future there could be such content no?

David Coffron

Not that I care much, but just wondering. Anyone have any idea why I'm getting downvotes

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3:28 PM

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GcL

@Rubiksmoose If were considering the possibility of future content, then the answer is always "it isn't UA yet" no matter what the question is about.

Because there is a possibility that UA just takes that exact content and posts it as UA.

Rubiksmoose

@GcL but that is where the source becomes important context for the question.

doppelgreener

Yesterday, someone homebrewed a Fencer subclass. Today, someone asks if a subclass called Fencer is homebrew or official, without including any details about said homebrew subclass, and gets answers saying no it isn't. Tomorrow, UA comes out with a subclass called Fencer: those answers now look wrong despite still actually being right, the Fencer class being asked about was homebrew.

GcL

@DavidCoffron You want more downvotes? Fine... ugh. Here have mine.

doppelgreener

That means eliminating all content about the homebrew would not be correct, as suggested here:

GcL

3:29 PM

@Rubiksmoose Sure. If you think that's a serious possibility and want to direct traffic to a pirate site.

David Coffron

@GcL I got one before a major edit, and understood, but then I got a second. Like I said, I don't pay them much mine, but I had no idea where it came from

doppelgreener

12 mins ago, by GcL

Actually, the content of the subclass doesn't matter for that question.

Someone_Evil

@DavidCoffron No idea, there is a good amount of overlap between our answers which might cause it?

doppelgreener

12 mins ago, by GcL

The question is, "is the Fencer fighter subclass homebrew or UA?" The details aren't required for the answer.

Rubiksmoose

@GcL I don't think the issue we are facing is a clean dichotomy where we must oonly either remove all context or keep the link. Your meta answer is an example of an alternate solution.

David Coffron

3:30 PM

@Someone_Evil Perhaps.

doppelgreener

This means we should be identifying the content of the subclass, not just its name: they are not asking about just any subclass with the name Fencer, they are asking about this particular Fencer subclass, this homebrew one right here.

GcL

@Rubiksmoose Do you think that it likely that UA will have a Fencer class? The content can be copied freely from the site if you don't want to direct traffic to it or help it's search engine page rank.

@Rubiksmoose Whoever posted that answer is out of their mind. CC licenses are communism! /S

doppelgreener

@GcL Yes, it's quite likely.

Rubiksmoose

@GcL I think how likely it is is largely irrelevant, but actually the name seems fairly ripe for inclusion IMO.

GcL

@doppelgreener Okay. So the content is important. Next question is what to do in order to reference the content. What is your opinion about linking to a site that distributes pirated material?

doppelgreener

3:33 PM

@GcL We avoid it.

GcL

@doppelgreener So the link has to go. I'm on board with that. I didn't like that link very much anyway. It's not like it was one to the past or questing for Zelda.

doppelgreener

Well, yes, it might. Let's see what we decide on meta.

Rubiksmoose

@GcL has to might be a bit strong. This appear to be a case where several policies and site guidelines are butting up against each other. Namely avoiding piracy and keeping questions clear and functional. That is why it is good to take it to meta.

To decide the best resolution.

GcL

I suspect linking to the non-pirate content of a site probably falls under the "wink and nod" aspect of rpg.meta.stackexchange.com/a/6884/38434

doppelgreener

Since there is no author described on the page for that homebrew, clear attribution probably requires identifying the site — i.e. linking to the homebrew page. — doppelgreener ♦ 31 secs ago

Hot RPG Questions

3:56 PM

3

Q: Can you really stack all of this on an Opportunity Attack?

I've stumbled upon a character idea which has quite the potentially to screw someone if they run from you, and I want to know if it is legal in the rules. A high elf rogue/cleric with the booming blade cantrip and war caster. In theory you get the damage from the weapon, sneak attack (if not use...

dnd-5e opportunity-attack

doppelgreener

Are we sure that site actually contains pirated material?

GcL

@doppelgreener Found the author. The link to the username is just wikidot.

Someone_Evil

@doppelgreener It does

(It lists all published subclasses, where only one per class is released as SRD)

GcL

Yes. It's got content for cleric domains that aren't in the basic rules

doppelgreener

@Someone_Evil thanks

Hot RPG Questions

6:12 PM

4

Q: Can a vampire attack twice with their claws using multiattack?

In Monster Manual 295-298 it talks about PCs becoming Vampires. In regards to the Vampire stat block: Multiattack. The vampire makes two attacks, only one of which can be a bite attack. Because of the word "can", would it be possible to assume that it also could choose not to? Meaning for t...

dnd-5e multiattack

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Carcer

dangit moose, you beat me to the dupe

Rubiksmoose

6:27 PM

@Carcer XD I figured I wasn't the only one

I do wonder if they are going to object to it, but I think closing it right now is the right option

Carcer

hm

I guess strictly it's not an identical question as they're unsure how you'd even get to 30

though it reads like they haven't twigged you can benefit from a manual several times

Rubiksmoose

indeed. if they really want to know "how" then it may not be a dupe I suspect that may be the case, but it isn't clear.

goodguy5

@BESW what a callback.

Carcer

comments seem to suggest this is the case

Rubiksmoose

they really need to focus it if so though

true polymorph is the easiest way

I think

I'd have to double check actually if that would work

oh

Interestingly, only with the very recent release of Mordenkainen’s Tome of Foes is it possible to use true polymorph to obtain an ability score of 30 if you transform into a leviathan. — Rubiksmoose May 20 '18 at 21:19

thank you past me

Carcer

6:36 PM

Past Rubiksmoose to the reqscue

rescue

Rubiksmoose

lol

funny, usually I just get angry at past me.

Carcer

yeah, past me is usually a dick that goofs off playing videogames and leaves present me to do all his work

joke's on him though, I play videogames too and let future me worry about the work

Rubiksmoose

hahaha yeah, screw future us!

well OP seems happy with duping it to a dupe. Not sure I am exactly but that isn't really the relevant issue I guess lol.

Carcer

heh

oh well

Rubiksmoose

(the question would require some overhaul to be a viable non-dupe I think.)

yup so it goes

David Coffron

6:48 PM

@Carcer Now I'm trying to figure out if you could get to 30 without stacking tomes (like only being allowed to read one)

Level 20 Barbarian with a Hammer of Thunderbolts and one reading of Manual of Gainful Exercise gets 30 Strength. I don't think there is any other way (without the use of high-power rewards like artifacts and epic boons)

kviiri

@Rubiksmoose Despite being somewhat out of love with Apocalypse World at the moment, I went to browse the list they have of other PbtA titles to see if they have another Western for us

Didn't find a thing

Carcer

hm

Rubiksmoose

weeeeeird I was sure PbtA would have something

Carcer

I note that the hammer of thunderbolts doesn't say it comes back

Rubiksmoose

maybe a Fate hack?

goodguy5

6:55 PM

You're a Fate hack

Carcer

Fate/Hack

kviiri

@Rubiksmoose Yep. And I mean, there might be, it might just not be listed there

David Coffron

I just realized that a Divination Wizard with the Hammer of Thunderbolts would be the ultimate patient giant assassin. You wait for the day when you get a 20 and a <10 for your portents and you ensure a one-hit-kill against any giant.

Rubiksmoose

@goodguy5 :'( [sniffle]

kviiri

Then again, post-apo is already fairly close to many Western tropes, so there might be less demand for one

Carcer

6:56 PM

@DavidCoffron Give that wizard a vorpal sword and they're a patient anything-assassin

Rubiksmoose

@kviiri that is a very good point

Carcer

oh, anything non-legendary

David Coffron

@Carcer or... "the GM decides that the creature is too big for its head to be cut off with this weapon. "

goodguy5

@Rubiksmoose nah, I'm a Fate hack too. no worries.

Rubiksmoose

:)

lol

Carcer

6:58 PM

@DavidCoffron there's not much with a neck thicker than a vorpal greatsword is long

but yes fair point

David Coffron

I just like to think that the best specialized assassin is a crystal-ball wizard attuned to a giant belt, ogre gauntlets, and a really big hammer

Glazius

7:29 PM

@kviiri Good guy Western or bad guy Western? You could probably move the criminal hacks out west if it's a bad guy Western.

Or play Spirit of (18)77.

kviiri

@Glazius Deadlands, which is basically what I'd hope to substitute, is more good guy Western in a sense, but it's also horror/dark fantasy

So it probably won't have a direct match anyway

Glazius

7:58 PM

Yeah, if you wanted to hit the plot beats of "a Western" you could probably just reskin most of '77, since that decade's home to a lot of Westerns.

The explicitly 70's popcult stuff (Glam and the Rocker) probably wouldn't make the jump but the rest could pretty easily be adapted into a story about the outsiders of the "Old West".

Xirema

9:04 PM

Uh oh. I tried to answer a simple question and wrote a Doctoral Thesis instead.

Ooopsie Doopsie!

Rubiksmoose

@Xirema trying for your PhD&D I see ;)

BESW

Evil Hat has "Oregon Trail but you're also being hunted by vampires."

Xirema

> Oops, I vomited onto my keyboard, and it spelled out a definitive proof of the Collatz Conjecture! I'm so random lol

Rubiksmoose

@BESW now that sounds intrguing...

BESW

9:22 PM

@Rubiksmoose It's got Native erasure, sadly; it at least mentions there should be Natives but their plot justifies keeping their presence in the game to an absolute minimum.

BESW

9:34 PM

On world-building, an excerpt from Ursula K Le Guin's Always Coming Home.

BESW

10:20 PM

Me and my friends at the table while playing dnd

Tweeted by starryarcana on April 4, 2019 at 7:57 PM

Shalvenay

10:35 PM

hey there @KDodge, welcome to the RPG.SE lair :)

KDodge

ello, good to be here

@Shalvenay want to help me out with an idea?

Shalvenay

@KDodge shoot

KDodge

Im making my version of a cow level, premise is the town has a weird pest that the country has never seen before and has sent in the party to prevent the pest from spreading. It cleans cows to the bone and makes people appear to go mad. Whats actually happening is the Ghost King of Cows has been summoned by leprechauns who ride farie dragons

leprechauns being the pest, FD causing "madness" by using their illuions to make people trick themselves into thinking they are going mad

The Ghost King of Cows is raising a cow army to take over the land of the living with Ghost Cows. Upon being defeated, a portal to the cow level opens up with no way to close it from our side

Leprechauns spend the entire time messing with the players, leprechauns feed the players misinformation and act like annoying tricksters

the actual cow level I haven't designed yet, im still in brainstorming stage overall