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V2Blast

12:17 AM

@Khuldraesethna'Barya Welcome!

@BlackSpike Very true

@BlackSpike Nice!

On a different note:

"The Outer Worlds’ credits pays tribute to ... developers’ slain D&D characters"

Khuldraeseth na'Barya

Ouch, TPK

nitsua60

12:43 AM

@trogdor a tentacle? Something about that bothers me more than any other number I can imagine.

V2Blast

@nitsua60 How about half a tentacle

nitsua60

@V2Blast That'd be better than one, but worse than zero.

Seems like "one" is my ick-maximizing N_tentacles.

BESW

1:13 AM

@BlackSpike Awesome!

Black Spike

@BESW Activating Smug Mode :D

I'm really happy everyone likes it! :)

I could add in lots more bits, like rolling to see what Ship/Room you find, totalling your Junk after a raid, etc ... but I don't want the App to Play the Game for you! :)

BESW

Yeah, at the very least I'd wait to see the game updates; my big problem with the tables right now is how they're laid out in the doc.

I dropped by a local print shop and they've got 8.5x11 re-usable standees for relatively cheap, so I think I'll use those instead of getting a new 24x36 poster printed.

Black Spike

@BESW I'll get this version uploaded, and then see what happens ... :)

What's up with the Tables?

BESW

They're just clumsy to navigate and use.

And the text is a bit clunky in places, I'm hopeful that the update will include an editing pass.

Black Spike

Yeah, the whole thing need a good edit/proof-read.

Put "Playing the Game" right up at the top!

BESW

1:27 AM

The fact that the target's difficulty and the target's HP are the same, and that both go down on successful attacks, took me three reads to process.

Black Spike

@BESW Took me 3 reads to -find- that bit!

But clunkyness aside, it looks like a fun game.

BESW

And I like that Junk is both an upgrade resource and a health pool for the ship, but I feel like it creates a cautious use of upgrades that doesn't fit the rest of the game's élan.

Black Spike

One thing I couldn't find: What can hurt the Ship? it has "health" (junk), and the phrase "Junk also acts as your Ship’s health. . Whenever a harmful action is done towards the ship, the difference acts the same as losing Teeth."
But no mention of any action that might do this ...

trogdor

@nitsua60 i think it was only one? I clicked the generator a few times so I can't definitely confirm

BESW

@BlackSpike In the BOARD! phase...

> Between Rooms, the Goblins on board will describe a consequence of their actions, or retaliation by the crew that will harm their Ship in one way or another and determine a DS. The current referee will then have to decide how their Goblin will try and save the ship. They will then roll using the Ships appropriate Stat. If you fail, lose Junk as described in Clearing a Room/Harmful Action .

trogdor

1:34 AM

@BESW I dunno, I didn't feel very cautious with it

I used a lot of junk to upgrade whenever I could

BESW

@trogdor And then the ship got cleaned because we left it with less than ten Junk going into a new BOARD! phase.

Black Spike

@BESW Ah yes. So it is. Hidden away ...

trogdor

@BESW oh,... Yeah XD

So caution was not felt but it was advisable

BESW

When we continue playing, I expect to see increased caution in using upgrades.

I know I will be more cautious.

trogdor

@nitsua60 oh wait I dug through to find it again, it's definitely multiple tentacles

jgn

1:37 AM

@NautArch I don't mind that, but just make sure I'm not going to have to answer the same pointless questions over and over please :3 It's really frustrating to have to explain the same things over and over, it's better just to put them in the question even if it makes it not so nice.

trogdor

Lol

No

Upgrade erry day

XP

Black Spike

Summary:
JUMP: Improve Stuff (Treasure/Rep-Prep/Horsin'.
CRASH: figure what Ship yo find, and who stays back
BOARD: Try to Clear Room. Grab Junk. Move on (or Go Home)
Foes retaliate against Goblin Ship.
Rinse/Repeat until Tooths = 0, or decide to call it.

?

BESW

Looks about right to me.

Except "or decide to call it" for the ending.

> Finding Junktopia: The Goblins will find Junktopia after 3 Jumps on a Short Game , 5 Jumps on a Medium Game , or 8 Jumps on a Long Game . Once you reach Junktopia, depending on the amount of Junk you’ve collected, determine what you add to the wondrous, amazing utopia of craftsmanship and freedom!

Black Spike

With lots of actual RolePlay, and "stay-at-home" acting as GM (except for "Retaliation", where Raiders decide Challenge"

BESW

Oh, you mean "or decide to call it" for ending the BOARD phase. Yes.

Black Spike

1:47 AM

@BESW yeah, i meant "decide to call it" as an end to each Crash. Game ends on number of Jumps

BESW

I like that you get to decide when to cash in your chips on the BOARD phase.

...I also like that overstaying your welcome while BOARDING doesn't mean you lose all the Junk, just one player's portion of it.

Black Spike

@BESW Yes. You can keep going ... but you'll lose 1 Gobbo's Junk ... is that next Room worth the risk?

BESW

But having the ship get attacked between each room IS more serious because it can end the game entirely.

Black Spike

@BESW Looks to me (never played!) like if you see your Ship Junk dropping, you GO HOME!

BESW

Yeah, totally.

Black Spike

1:49 AM

So yes, double Risk .. lose a Goblin's Junk Dice, AND have a Retaliation ...

I'm sure our group would start getting personal/vengeful (even to the Group's detriment!)
Stayed-on-Ship: "Oh, the Frigate has marines on it! Tough Challenge!"
Raiders: "We beat them (just) and move on ... Retaliation! The Marines Attack the Ship! V TOUGH challenge!!!"

BESW

Hee.

We boarded a luxury cruise ship and vaporized the swimming pool, so the retaliation was just the vapor getting vented out into space... right onto our ship, which lost all its Junk. So we decided that it had been cleaned to such a gleaming polish that our Goblins refused to use it anymore.

Black Spike

@BESW HAHA!

They Bleached our Ship!!

jgn

@KorvinStarmast I just don't think it matters. Why can't I want to understand the rules so that if they come up I know how they work? Especially when there is a lot of misunderstanding around a rule that I would like cleared up.

BESW

We still want to keep playing, so next session we're going to have put all the cruise liner guests on our newly-cleaned ship, and we take the luxury liner as our own to continue toward Junktopia.

Black Spike

@BESW oh nice!

trogdor

1:58 AM

You would think we could just trash it again but noooooo

XD

Black Spike

@trogdor XD the stench of Super-Heated Chlorine is FAR too Clean for yo to go near it! Grab the 'trashed' ship, and move on! :)

trogdor

Lol

Black Spike

reminds me of playing Sid Mieir's Pirates ... get into a fight to claim a ship ... but own ship gets battered in the process ... ok, we ditch ours, and sail home on the new one

BESW

@trogdor Given what we know about modern luxury cruises, chances are their ship was junkier than ours before The Cleaning.

Black Spike

@BESW hah

trogdor

2:12 AM

@BESW XD

KorvinStarmast

@jgn You can want in one hand and spit in the other. See which one fills up first.

Black Spike

@KorvinStarmast Ouch!

KorvinStarmast

@jgn If you want to argue about a rules interpretation, comments under a question or under and answer are not the place to do it.

Open up a private chat and argue away.

Black Spike

@KorvinStarmast <Stealing that phrase!>

KorvinStarmast

@BlackSpike I learned the original over 30 years ago, that's an adaptation. ;-)

Black Spike

2:27 AM

Rolemaster Session 3 tomorrow. Yay!
And then another week off. Boo! (Dang players and their 'going away to celebrate their birthday'! have they no sense of Priorities?)

jgn

2:38 AM

@KorvinStarmast I really dislike how hostile this site is to question askers. I don't really understand how asking about the rules is so controversial, but I'm guessing the general hatred towards rules questions tends to generate problems. Perhaps from elitism with other systems or playstyles that have less rules?

user15026

2:49 AM

@BESW I like that The Cleaning is capitalized, like it will be spoken about by future generations as a historical event

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Q: If a creature has advantage against spells and magical effects, is it resistant to magical attacks?

My DM said that monsters that have advantage against spells and magical effects are extra resistant to damage. We fought some demons that have resistance to slashing, piercing, and bludgeoning damage from non-magical attacks. We all have magical weapons, but he was saying that the monsters were ...

Black Spike

@Ash Dang Grots! You weren't there! I had to endure The Cleaning! You see that? dirt'll never grow on that bit of my arm again! Caught a blast of the fumes! We lost some good Mold that day. Pah! Young 'uns today think a splash o' water'll spoil 'em! Get off my Junk Heap, ya Grots!

user15026

@BlackSpike that's totally how it would go

Black Spike

<hushed tones> y'know Old Grog? They say he was at The Cleaning! .. No Way! But he's got Junk! ... Yeah, secreted it away ... I heard that no Junk survived ... Wily old Gobber, is Old Grog ... had to be ...

nitsua60

@KorvinStarmast I was going to say... the version I heard from my dad was a bit... earthier?

Black Spike

3:03 AM

@nitsua60 Yeah? I quite like that version ... but you've piqued my curiosity ...

BESW

@BlackSpike Just google "wish in one hand."

nitsua60

@BlackSpike "You can **** in one hand and wish in the other, see which fills up first."

Black Spike

aha. ok.

nitsua60

There's a nice... consonance? (I don't know if that's quite the right term, with the "sh" sound being the one repeated.)

Black Spike

@nitsua60 resonance? Yeah, i see (hear?) that. Still quite like "spit".

Tends to be less volume (your experience may vary) ... leading to an ongoing situation ... "sh" would fill your hand quite quick ...

nitsua60

3:07 AM

@BlackSpike I mean, it'd be assonance for a repeated vowel sound, consonance for a repeated consonant, but the "sh" doesn't quite feel quite as hard as consonance tends to typify.

He liked to claim that he had an "earthy" aphorism for any situation.

Black Spike

@nitsua60 :)

nitsua60

"Don't ... where you live."
"... rolls uphill."
"*inter urinas et faeces nascimur.*"
&c.

Black Spike

My Dad finds it hard to use such language ... despite growing up on building sites!
My Mum is freer with her language ... English Teacher ...

I recall her telling me of a Philip Larkin poem ... meant a lot, on many levels ...mainly, my Mum saying F in front of <to> me!

Although my Dad does enjoy telling his anecdote of meeting Aristocracy (He'd moved off the tools, and into an office). Got invited to an Opening of a new Building he'd overseen, and some local Lady was there. Had a chat .. and she lost her place in the conversation ... "Oh, I'm very sorry, I had a CRAFT moment ..."

"A what?"
"Can't Remember A ... Thing"

(all said in the poshest voice you can imagine)

V2Blast

lol

BESW

I can't track down the source right now, but in the 1800s a man was being taken to court for publishing lewd stories in his magazine, in which all the naughty words had been blacked out. His lawyer read aloud several innocuous nursery rhymes and other well-known verses with strategically censored words:

> Jack and Jill went up the hill
To ███ █ ███ █ ████.
Jack fell down and broke his ███,
And Jill came █████ after.

Black Spike

3:23 AM

@BESW XO

BESW

The point being that when the relephant words are redacted, anything can be sexy, or funny, or insulting, depending entirely on the mindset of the audience. Thus if the jury found his client guilty of publishing lewd stories it was only because the jury was naughty-minded itself.

(The defendant had no legitimate case under the law; the stories were obviously intended to titillate and possessed no redeeming value whatsoever. His lawyer had to resort to a clever re-direct, holding the jury hostage by its own self-image.)

Black Spike

something something shared cultural experience something something playing on expectations something something

BESW

The recent video game Control does a great job with artistically applied redaction to give the player's imagination freedom to come up with things that are more interesting to the player than anything the creative team could come up with. Their skill lies in not also relying on redaction as a lazy way to avoid making the game actually interesting in its own right.

Black Spike

Having had clients from many walks of life, I have come up with the following philosophy on Class:
Working Class: nothing to lose. Swear like troopers
Middle Class: Everything to lose. Very careful what they say
Upper Class: Can't lose. Swear like troopers (when apt)

@BESW Interesting. Not played that. Always been a fan of letting the audience fill in the gaps, rather than be too explicit. (cf: horror movies - don't show the monster!)

BESW

I've watched playthroughs, it's not on any platform I have access to yet, but it looks like something I'd like to play even after watching the playthrough.

For a lot of video games, the combat feels like something I have to slug through as the price for more nuggets of story, but Control's gameplay looks fun in its own right as well as the story being good AND getting sprinkled throughout the world via discoverable bits that fill in unnecessary but entertaining worldbuilding so you get rewarded incrementally as you go.

And I appreciate that the worldbuilding premise is "What if SCP, but without the cruel, exploitative misanthropy and reliance on gross-out sensationalism?"

Black Spike

3:35 AM

@BESW What? they built a story without extreme sensationalism? What kind of Bizarro World is this?!? ;)

BESW

Like, they've not only left out the gross part where SCP treats criminals as disposable non-humans, but they actively push against the concept by humanizing a lot of the NPCs who it would be so easy to make nondescript and forgettable.

A major part of the game is picking up documents and reading them. Some are field reports, some are interdepartmental memos, some are case files, that kind of thing. There's good plot and worldbuilding stuff to be found, or sometimes it's just somebody complaining about the broken mail system or reminding people about poker night or writing a report for their book club.

Black Spike

Reminds me of one of the tenets of Apocalypse World .. "NPCs have Names". It humanises them makes them People. Makes them Real

BESW

There's a really strong "real people work here and are trying to cope with all this terrifying Weirdness" vibe throughout the game and I appreciate it.

Black Spike

@BESW I like. This is actually a functioning World, with People in it.

BESW

You don't get to do dialogue with many people (though the ones you do, are very human) but they've populated the world anyway.

There's a recurring thing where they tried to make a puppet show for kids to try and explain the Weird Stuff, but it's just this home-made no-budget production by a few staffers and it's absolutely terrifying every time you stumble across an episode of it.

Doesn't help that it's an actual puppet show because the Remedy people are big on mixed media in their games so there's a lot of live-action filming thrown into cutscenes and overlays.

Black Spike

3:43 AM

It was a tough balance to run, in the past two RPGs ... I played Exalted, and then ran FWTD (Gutterpunk) ... in Exalted, I was always "what do The People think?" ... "How is this affecting the Citizens?" ... in FWTD, I tried to make every single NPC (shop-keepers, random Mooks, anyone the PCs met ... they were people with wants and needs ...

@BESW Ooow! I can see how that get spoopy, real quick!

MikeQ

@BlackSpike How does this class philosophy account for multiclassing?

BESW

@BlackSpike youtube.com/watch?v=ln0UVXIrAmI Not really very spoilery.

Black Spike

@MikeQ it doesn't. Humans can only Dual-Class

@BESW SPOOPY!

BESW

The gameplay's also pretty good. It's mostly a shooter, but they've abandoned ammo tracking. You get a magical gun that you can learn how to modify for different types (pistol, shotgun, semi-auto, etc) and it's got a resource track that recovers when you're not using the gun. And you learn Weird Powers like throwing things with your mind that draw on a separate resource track which recovers when you're not using Weird Powers.

So there's a dynamic rhythm to combat as you alternate between two different sets of abilities, and each set has its own choices and customizations you can make.

Black Spike

@BESW sounds good. I like the idea of completely abstracting away Equipment/Guns .. yeah, you have a GUN .. it Shoots ...

BESW

3:50 AM

Health recovery is not automatic, but every time you hit an enemy they drop a little blue spark that you automatically absorb to heal if you run near it. That means you're rewarded for moving around and not turtling to snipe.

And the sparks don't go away if unused, so you can return to old fight scenes to heal up later.

Black Spike

You steal health from your kills?

That's a thing ...

BESW

Not just from your kills: if you're fighting a big-health enemy, you can chip off its health and use that to heal WHILE you're still fighting them.

Black Spike

aha

Hitting a foe heals you! (if you run and get it)

BESW

Aye.

There's an option to specialize in punching people, but everyone I've watched play so far puts all their points into the Gun and their Weird powers.

Which are mostly mid- to long-range attacks, so healing requires deliberate action.

Black Spike

reminiscent of Exalted's combat, where you trade Initiative until you buid up enough for an Actual Blow

yeah ... if your Healing is Short Range (foe) ... you need to be up-close-and-personal ...

Or shoot 'em till they drop, and clean up the Health Boxes ...

BESW

3:56 AM

The basic premise of the game is that there's an SCP-like government agency dedicated to finding Weird Stuff and containing it and studying it, and you're playing somebody who was in the middle of a Weird Stuff event as a kid and has been looking for this agency ever since.

You start the game at the moment you find their agency HQ... which is in a building that straddles multiple dimensions and shifts and changes in ways nobody understands. And when you get into the building, it's under lockdown because of an attack from... somewhere else... that you seem mysteriously suited to help them handle.

Black Spike

anyhoo, it's silly-o'clock, and I have Sitchin to read, and work tomorrow ...

BESW

ttfn

Black Spike

catch ya on the flip side

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MikeQ

4:08 AM

So as predicted, our tech-themed Pathfinder campaign is already getting bogged down by the tech mechanics

BESW

MikeQ

And this adventure already expects a decent amount of prior system mastery. Yet instead of just reflavoring the magic as "magitech", it adds an entire system's worth of new mechanics on top. It's already rather overwhelming and I don't expect it to get smoother.

nitsua60

@BESW in Charleston there's an island. And a bridge that opens and closes. Is that right?

BESW

[blink] Is this a subject change?

nitsua60

(Sorry: yes. I'm on another desktop trying to sketch out a trip taking a half-dozen kids to Charleston in February.)

BESW

4:16 AM

Ben Sawyer Bridge

The Ben Sawyer Bridge is a swing bridge that connects the town of Mount Pleasant with Sullivan's Island in South Carolina. The bridge swings on its central axis to open for boat traffic which is too tall to clear the bridge, and has an operator's house in the center of the swing span from which a tender can operate the bridge. The bridge was originally constructed in 1945, but the steel superstructure for the approach spans and swing span was replaced in 2010, albeit retaining the same general appearance. The bridge originally cost about $775,000 (substructure, superstructure, and approaches)...

I think you're talking about the Ben Sawyer Bridge to Sullivan's Island.

Sometimes it gets so hot that the steel expands and it gets stuck.

( @Shalvenay @Ash [gestures above] travel infrastructure weirdness! )

nitsua60

That sounds like it. (Trying to find a church that's been recommended to me.)

Thanks.

BESW

4:47 AM

I'm making cards for the Masters of Umdaar stunts. Should I use Evil Hat's "Fate" style guide, or try to make them match the She-Ra style character sheets I'll be using?

BESW

6:04 AM

→ 31 messages moved to Not a bar, but plays one on TV

jgn

What exactly do you 2 plan to argue with me there? I already said that I was not implying anything about a conspiracy and that you should take my statement literally. You want to debate what I meant and what you suppose I think with me? That's nonsene.

I don't want to play that game with you, no thanks!

BESW

Glazius tried to help you with handling RAW questions on the mainsite, and it turned into a debate about whether or not "collusion" was a charitable reading of your description of events. I'm not gonna tell people not to have that conversation, just saying don't have it here.

kviiri

6:30 AM

I played Cuba Libre against a flowchart yesterday. Understanding the solitaire flowchart was... quite a pickle in its own right.

And sadly despite occupying almost half of the rulebook, the solitaire mode didn't feel very good to me. (I might just be a bit sore because I lost the game to a piece of cardboard.)

Glazius

Oh dear.

Is that your first COIN game, if that term means something to you?

kviiri

Yes, although I have played it with people before. Although I have some experience with Labyrinth too and it has many similarities.

The war on terror Labyrinth, not the sliding blocks one.

I got somewhat punched by chance, as fate had the first Propaganda card happen very early into the game. I was the Government, so my operation cost of two per space didn't last for long. Against humans, I would've expected other players to focus on each other while I try to conserve my resources, but the flowchart AI does no such thing :(

BESW

@Glazius Carefully Overwhelmed by Insidious Nerdery, yes?

Glazius

@BESW Yes! Also, COunterINsurgency. The genre is one where multiple factions are trying to control territory and each have their own mechanics for doing that and interacting with random cards.

kviiri

Yea, it's a series of about ten games (more are incoming) from GMT games. I'm thinking of getting Gandhi and the upcoming All Bridges Burning because they prominently feature non-violent action too.

ABB will also be a three-player game so it fits in a different niche than the mostly 4-player COIN games out there, and it's about the Finnish civil war so it naturally feels like interesting to me

Glazius

6:55 AM

Yeah, it seems like the solo mode in a COIN game involves understanding all sides of it well enough to work out what the flowchart is throwing at you.

kviiri

The Cuba Libre one has a lot of those "attack the player faction" hooks, so it's definitely harder in a sense. Against human players you only suffer attacks out of particularly good opportunities or if you're actually about to win.

It does have a few exceptions but they're mostly "attack the other AI if they would win otherwise"

kviiri

7:11 AM

(as in, if they're already over the victory threshold)

user15026

@BESW whoa. That's cool but also would suck if you were stuck on one side.

BESW

7:25 AM

Glazius

Oh, nice styles. Is that your own?

BESW

I pulled the graphics from these She-Ra styled Fate Accelerated sheets.

user15026

7:43 AM

I like the sparkles.

V2Blast

Sparkles make everything better

BESW

8:06 AM

Is the title legible, or too fancy?

jgn

@V2Blast Thanks for your editing, you sure work hard!

kviiri

8:23 AM

V2Blast is like a model copyeditor for the site.

I don't recall seeing anyone else having such drive for improving others' posts :)

BESW

@kviiri People with the gold Copy Editor badger are all an elite caliber, but Doppelgreener's run on it was particularly memorable.

Pierre Cathé

Good morning

kviiri

Hi Pierre

BESW

8:43 AM

[wave]

Someday I will start a simple project and it will be simple the whole way through.

Today is not that day.

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V2Blast

@kviiri At least partly a result of being unemployed ;)

@BESW Probably too fancy to read at a glance, without looking closely. (I had no idea what words it was supposed to be based on the embed, until I viewed the image at full size)

@BESW Do such things exist?

BESW

They're gonna print out at Magic card size.

trogdor

9:31 AM

ok, I rolled a few more times on the Masters of Umdar table, I got a Chimera of a T-Rex and a Ferret

he's also a vampire, has some kind of minor artifact, and a deadly tail

XD

Pierre Cathé

9:48 AM

I'm really happy with how my Strahd campaign is going : yesterday even though we had to stop before the characters attacked an enemy camp, I was able to get some really good psychological warfare on the players

Wait this sounds pretty bad, am I a sadist ?

Anyway I got them tied up in several time-important plots, and they knew that whatever choice they made would heavily affect this or that npc they liked

And would probably lock them out of the other options

Oh and one of the PCs has a ticking-bomb curse they don't know how to heal, and they only know of one NPC who might help them, which adds to the pressure

kviiri

@Glazius Oh I almost forgot, I also played one match of Fire in the Lake. I liked that, too, although I found the four player setup a bit less intuitive there.

The coopetition aspect didn't feel right to me

kviiri

10:23 AM

Namely, I was North Vietnam, and the most experienced other player was Viet Cong. I played well, I think, and executed a bold invasion were enough of South Vietnam fell under my occupation that I was comfortably within my victory margin. The Viet Cong player started openly colluding with the South and US to prevent me from winning, which is of course a natural consequence of the game ultimately being single-winner zero sum.

The collusion aspect is inevitable, I think it should've been taken into account better in game design.

BESW

12:40 PM

user15026

1:50 PM

@BESW these are legible on my phone without making them larger

BESW

Yey!

I have, of course, made alterations since.

user15026

Oh that's even better

NautArch

2:21 PM

@PierreCathé That is awesome! It's not psychological warfare, but creating meaningful choices and story-making decisions that your players are actively involved in.

Gwideon

2:45 PM

Hi

kviiri

Hi

Gwideon

how is everyone

GcL

Hello. Do you prefer coffee or tea?

NautArch

howdy howdy

@GcL depends

I've generally become a coffee drinker in the morning, but in the cooler months I like tea in the evening or afternoons.

Debating about posting a meta question about the homebrew/homebrew-review tags.

GcL

Seems like a duplicate tag

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2:51 PM

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Gwideon

so I'm having internet issues

kviiri

@GcL Tea

Rubiksmoose

Tea. I just don't like coffee.

@Gwideon :(

GcL

@Gwideon Have you tried pipe cleaners? I hear it's mostly tubes. Maybe there's a cat video stuck in one of them.

Pierre Cathé

I can drink coffee about once a week, but I drink tea every day

goodguy5

2:53 PM

I'm 2-3 cups a day (coffee)

Yuuki

3:11 PM

I brew a small cup of coffee, sit it down in front of my keyboard, and then drink some tea.

Coffee smells really good, but I can't stand the taste and I don't really want to spend time tinkering with different add-ins until I get something I like.

doppelgreener

@BESW What is this from? :O

@BESW that's why it looked familiar!

Rubiksmoose

I still want to play Fate at some point.

@BESW That looks fantastic.

doppelgreener

@BESW why was that :O

David Coffron

@Yuuki I'm the opposite; I can't stand the smell of coffee, but the taste isn't all that bad.

NautArch

3:28 PM

@DavidCoffron well that answers that!

Gwideon

hewwo

NautArch

@Gwideon issues fixed?

Gwideon

not really. It's a school wide thing

NautArch

that's annoying :( Did they try turning it off and back on again?

Someone_Evil

@Gwideon I believe no school ever has had a good, reliable internet. There might be a mandate somewhere enforcing it

Gwideon

3:44 PM

@Someone_Evil Yeah pretty much. It's sad

MikeQ

If the school's internet is too good, the students will surely play online games instead of doing homework

@BESW Anyhoo we spent much of the last session iterating through a list of high-tech loot, and hopping around the online SRDs to figure out how they worked, since the GM couldn't find that information in their own books

@BESW "I have a bad feeling about this" - sci fi person

STT LCU

4:05 PM

That beautiful moment when as a paladin level 2 you one-shot the BBG rolling for 24 damage... :D

NautArch

@STTLCU 5e?

@STTLCU Nova burst damage can be so much fun. I once took out a Kraken way too fast with my vengeance pally.

STT LCU

yes, 5e :)

It was something similar to "oh hell no you didn't" with a readied action triggered by an attempted spell cast

Still smiling from yesterday, and it's not my first RPG either! I forgot how fun this can be.

Gwideon

boop

MikeQ

@Gwideon Interesting point. Please go on.

Gwideon

beep

MikeQ

4:13 PM

Well that's just absurd.

NautArch

@STTLCU Yah, feels good when you drop massive damage. Any thoughts on which oath you'll take when you get to 3rd?

STT LCU

I'll go Conquest, my personal challenge will be not to fall to the Evil-conqueror trope and remain between N and G.

NautArch

@STTLCU Just play it like you see it :) And don't be a jerk :P As long as you and your tablemates are having fun, then you've found the balance.

My LN vengeance paladin at times made some hard decisions that ended up putting the party in tough situations.

But we all had fun, even if we were sent to a prison planet for a bit.

What's your weapon choice?

Pierre Cathé

@NautArch That's true, my player's cleric got scared by the local baddie's hounds and used the Harm spell to one-shot them. He was so happy I didn't have the heart to tell him they only had 6 HP

NautArch

@PierreCathé Nothing worse than the feeling of using a big resource when you didn't need to.

STT LCU

4:21 PM

@NautArch Halberd as main (sentinel + Polearm master at lvl4) and Maul as backup

NautArch

@STTLCU v.human?

STT LCU

correct

Pierre Cathé

Also note that while Harm is a negative energy attack, Ham is a very positive-energy buff !

MikeQ

@NautArch Could be much worse. Could be raining. Raining bears.

NautArch

@STTLCU That was pretty much my build. Was given a maul early on that was my signature weapon, but then DM rolled on a random treasure chart later on for a +3 halberd. Completely changed my build to be PAM/GWM/Sentinel.

STT LCU

4:23 PM

I'm still open to consider a third talent at level 8, I rolled quite good for my initial stats that I don't really feel starved there.

Pierre Cathé

@NautArch Yeah, I just told him his spell instantly stopped the hound's heart and he felt powerful instead of stupid

NautArch

WHat's your strength @STTLCU?

STT LCU

16. I've put my 18 in Cha

Since the whole point of the class is to generate frightened conditions all around, that seemed smart

MikeQ

@NautArch And besides, spells are recoverable. It's not like this sort of decision would permanently impact the rest of the campaign

NautArch

@STTLCU Hmm. I'd defintely consider an ASI for strength at level 8 and going GWM at 12. Adding that -5/+10 is a big deal if you can consistently get more attacks. You'll have extra attack for 2, and PAM gives you a bonus action attack for 3 - you just need to try and use sentinel for reaction attacks for 4. That damage adds up and you can mitigate the -5 with bless.

STT LCU

4:29 PM

If I have to pick a third feat, though, I'm considering warcaster, too. Lots of my key stuff requires concentration, and I'm still hit often (we're a very small party of 3, and I'm the tank)

NautArch

@STTLCU Resilient (CON) I think is better. But that may be because of my tables use of proficiency die instead of modifiers (and applying it everywhere you use proficiency)

@STTLCU And just be a bit careful as you level up. A lot of higher CR monsters are immune to being frightened. A lot aren't, though :)

Xirema

@STTLCU In terms of assisting with concentration, Proficiency in those checks is usually better. Advantage will be better at low levels, but if you're expecting the character to persist in a longer campaign, you're definitely going to prefer the CON proficiency, especially since it'll also help with non-concentration Constitution saving throws

NautArch

@Xirema ^ and @STTLCU What's your CON?

Gwideon

4:43 PM

The animation Is almost done

NautArch

5:26 PM

@Gwideon nice! can't wait to see it.

Xirema

5:43 PM

Should I create a question for the interaction between Shadow Blade and Booming Blade & Green Flame Blade? It gets a lot of google traffic and we apparently don't have a question specifically for that interaction, but it's also one of those "okay, but the answer is obviously ____" questions that feel too trivial to deserve a question in the first place.

Someone_Evil

@Xirema What interaction are you thinking about?

NautArch

@Xirema If it's a question you want to know the answer to, then yes :)

Sdjz

@Xirema You could also self-answer in this case

Gwideon

can you upload a video into chat?

NautArch

@Gwideon looks like it's images only. But if it's hosted on youtube or somewhere, you can link/embed it.

Gwideon

5:47 PM

I can't upload a video onto youtube on the school network

Xirema

@Sdjz I mean, I would. I'm just not sure there's as much need as I'm imagining to make a post in the first place.

NautArch

@Gwideon Can you access any video sharing sites? Or upload it to google/apple cloud?

@Xirema The need is only if you feel there is one. If you do, then ask it.

Sdjz

@Xirema Other than time, I don't think there's much to lose and it might end up helping someone so I'd say go for it

STT LCU

@NautArch It should be another 16, going by memory

NautArch

@STTLCU ah, okay. Just seeing if it was odd so that Resilient would bump it up.

Sdjz

5:50 PM

I mean we have a bunch of questions that surely seem fairly obvious to a lot of people. Sometimes it's just "rule is on page 13 and says this, done"

STT LCU

After bonuses i only have evens :)

Gwideon

I can upload it to a google drive

NautArch

@Gwideon that should work

@STTLCU Ah, I still like Resilient better, just doesn't give you as much with the +1. But overall proficiency for CON saves will be good.

And if you ever do get another +1, you'll get a boost in HP.

FYI, I personally found saving my spell slots for smites was optimal, with either bless or protection from good and evil as my concentration spells in-combat.

Gwideon

I hope this works

well crap it's still processing

give me a bit

Sdjz

it's downloadable though

seems to be working fine

Gwideon

5:59 PM

give me a sec. I'm converting it to a preferred format

Sdjz

oh ok