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9:07 PM
(The monster math is 12, +1 per level, +2 if Soldier type or -2 if Brute or Artillery type, and +2 to AC.)
 
@BESW so yea. about what we expected. good to know
I'm trying so hard to get this fanatic badge
 
@goodguy5 the hardest part is that you can't do anything to rush it lol
 
the hardest part is that utc is hard.
I'm up to 20. 1/5th the way there
I have to stop going to pt, I think. too expensive.
 
@goodguy5 Just make sure you log in at the same time every day. I put it on my list of sites to visit in the morning while I get ready/caught up with the world.
 
@goodguy5 UTC is just mean solar time at 0° longitude
 
9:15 PM
@GreySage yea, but i barely get online during the weekends, because I'm not at work lol.
 
@Maximillian Everything beaus Neutronium Golem, it's pathetically weak for a supposed Immortal
level 15 wizards kick Neutronium Golems around between encounters
 
Is there a way other than Thief rogue to bypass magic item attunement restrictions in 5e? Just making sure Im not forgetting something.
 
because the writers didn't understand how ridiculous 8th and 9th level spellcasting actually is
 
@DavidCoffron Artificers can have four or five magic items attuned depending on level.
 
Time zones in western Canada (except for BC) make no sense
 
9:18 PM
@Yuuki I mean like "requires attunement by a warlock"
 
@DavidCoffron uh... I think so... I think there's another class that gets the same thing...
 
@DavidCoffron Magic items require a warlock to attune?
Or a specific magic item?
 
@GreySage What about the Newfoundland time zone that's 30 minutes off?
 
@Yuuki Just an example. Thief rogue gets magical device to ignore that. I'm looking for any other ways.
 
Really everyone should just switch to Eastern Standard and ditch daylight savings
 
9:21 PM
@SPavel At least it's the whole province, not half of it arbitrarily cut.
 
@SPavel I agree to ditching Daylight Savings, but we should probably all switch to UTC
 
I think we should just ditch timezones
 
And then Alaska is -1 from where it is geographically, just 'cause
 
or at least change the way they work
 
@DavidCoffron UTC is colonial
There's no reason that the 0 time zone should run through a colonial superpower
On the other hand, EST runs through the world's financial capital
Which is neoliberal instead of colonial and therefore good instead of bad
 
9:23 PM
@SPavel the current financial capital. That can change. It's best to use a more static 0-point
like the prime meridian
 
Apparently Russia hates +8. They run from +12 to +5, but skip +8.
 
@DavidCoffron The prime meridian is only where it is because of the aforementioned colonialism
 
Alternately, zeropoint = new Point(Math.randomLat(), Math.randomLong());
 
@DavidCoffron yea. I thought there was another thing than rogues, but I guess not
 
So, where's (4, 4)?
 
9:25 PM
And of course China rejects the notion of timezones altogether
 
@Yuuki 4 degrees off Null Island
 
Off the coast of Nigeria.
 
That's GMT + 1
(or UTC + 1)
 
There, problem solved.
We're all switching to UTC+1.
 
@Yuuki UTC +1 is underpowered, you should try and get a flaming corrosive UTC +5 of fear
 
9:29 PM
I think we need a coordinated universal time, and local times that fit the culture and biosphere of each area. It's like being bilingual, but with time.
 
@BESW Bitemporal?
 
@SPavel I'm not sure if setting our clocks by a Pakistani (or Indian) nuclear warhead is a good idea.
 
@SPavel I barely know Emporal!
 
@BESW Isn't that what we already have?
 
@GreySage Not really? Everyone uses a 24 hour clock.
 
9:37 PM
Only in the most cursory possible sense.
 
@SPavel Or you could cast Greater Magic Timezone
 
For example, even setting aside that a local clock would probably shift day/night signifiers with the seasons and would put the turnover at someplace other than midnight in locations where sunrise or sunset, rather than midnight, are when the day changes...
...the original point of time zones was that the sun should always be overhead at 12 noon.
But since everybody's "sun overhead" was a little bit different, and the trains needed to run on a clock that didn't change with every few towns, time zones were introduced to standardize "noon" in a way that didn't actually match up with the sun.
Time zones reduced the ability of local time to accurately reflect local reality.
 
@BESW Plus they really mess with people's internal clocks
Most people's bodies continue to generate sleep hormone for ~2 hours after they have to wake up to get ready for work
 
Yeah. That's actually a super fascinating area of study: the way that mechanical clocks changed how cultures (and the bodies in them) interact with time.
 
Clocks and other things; people in medieval times would have a period of wakefulness between two stages of sleep but omnipresent artificial light made it easier to stay up longer and sleep in one chunk
 
9:50 PM
Aye.
And it's weird how our sense of time gets so ingrained that it's hard to imagine other ways of thinking about time-keeping and calendars.
A lot of people have a hard time wrapping their head around the Bahá'í calendar.
 
The French Revolution calendar is a fun one too
As is the Soviet calendar
 
It starts the year on the day in which the Sun enters Aries, as seen in Tehran; there are nineteen months of nineteen days each; two of our Holy Days are the first and the second day following the occurrence of the eighth new moon after the New Year; and the days left over that don't fit into any month are just "extra" days between the eighteenth and nineteenth month--usually four, but sometimes five, depending on the Sun and Aries, which is how we get our leap year calculations.
 
@BESW What we have currently is a very nice compromise between Time Has No Meaning (because if I walk a mile I have to readjust my watch) and Time Has No Meaning (because it's just a number with no connotation or connection to real world events)
 
5-day work week, 1/5 of workers has a given day as a day off
Don't have the same day off as your friends? sux2bu
 
(The two Holy Days are determined by the lunar cycle in a solar calendar because they're celebrating events that occurred on consecutive days of the year in separate years in the Islamic lunar calendar, but occurred a month apart by solar reckoning.)
 
10:03 PM
@BESW I know stellar drift occurs on the order of billions of years so it's not really a major issue, but does the calendar reconcile the possibility that there might be a time when Aries no longer exists?
 
Actually, yes, but not in the way you're probably thinking.
 
@Rubiksmoose I'm not sure that we're on the same page with this one yet, but, I just wanted to let you know that I've made an edit to my answer on the Counterspell question which may or may not address the issue you were trying to raise earlier. Let me know if you think it's an improvement, ideally here rather than in the comments.
 
The Bahá'í Faith teaches that each religion is part of a progressive revelation of the timeless, changeless Faith of God, and that each Messenger reveals what They can according to the capacity and needs of humanity at the time--so at a point in the future (not less than a thousand years from the middle of the 19th century) Bahá'u'lláh's religion will no longer be sufficient for the new capacity of humanity and the new challenges we'll be facing.
God will send a new Messenger, and as a sign of the renewed spiritual guidance that new Messenger will bring a new calendar.
So provided Aries hangs in there for another 900 years or so, we're good.
(Also there's an international elected administrative body with the authority to make rulings on things not covered by the original Texts. So if Aries blows up next week, the Universal House of Justice can figure out what to do.)
 
10:38 PM
Well, Aries is a collection of stars that are millions of lightyears apart from each other, so nothing should happen to it for a looooong time.
 
Knock on wood.
...Actually, it's even simpler than that: 'Abdu'l-Bahá interpreted "the day in which the Sun enters Aries" as signifying the vernal equinox.
(And He was one of only two people after Bahá'u'lláh with the authority to make that kind of interpretation, so it's legit.)
 

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