@Miniman yeah, in Golden Sun haha

(That's why I asked you haha)

I was watching a speedrun of it last night (with games like GS, it's more effective to watch speedruns lol) and it reminded me of it. I could nevr decide

The word is "Psynergy". It looks like it's meant to be pronounced "Sin-ergy", especially since a user is called a "Psynergist" (Sin-ergist). however, the "Psy" throws you off haha

I have always just treated the P in that as silent

so I just say the S and there is no issue XD

@trogdor Oh, yeah. The P is silent lol

@Ben I didn't really think about it for a long time, but when I did I decided it was probably psy-nergy (using the usual pronunciations of those syllables).

@Ben Also, users are called Adepts.

@Miniman That is true.

Then where did I get Psynergist from then?

Not sure.

I see a lot of Americans spell "psych" as "sike" which is weird because it's American slang to start with, get it right

@Ben That said, it's kind of awesome - if I ever have a type of spellcaster that works cooperatively, synergist would be a great name for them.

....technically, is that not what druids are? haha

@Miniman There was a webcomic that had a concept for cooperative spellcasting, one spellcaster would only know how to pull energy out of the world, and would channel it into the other spellcaster, who knew how to turn it into giant lasers

And presumably things that were not giant lasers

@Ben Wait, why?

@SPavel Pretty sure giant lasers is the whole point of magic.

@Miniman Right

Also there was a book (Tigana) with an interesting magic system, basically as an addition to (relatively weak) individual magic the primary use of wizards is to stand behind an army and tweak the handicap, the more wizards you have, the easier things for your army (subtle things like, the sun shines in the enemy's eyes a little harsher, their soldiers tire a little faster)

The protagonists pool their power into one of the bad dudes when he is fighting the other bad dude, then suddenly jump out at the last moment and the bad dude gets rekt

@Miniman Well, doesn't their magic come from nature, in such a way that they need to do certain things (i.e. no metal, etc) to use said magic?

"Whoa, that's a big ol' mind blast, well good luck with that"

@Ben yes

@trogdor Yeah, I knew that. Lol.

@SPavel There were a lot of problems with that book, but the magic system was fantastic.

@SPavel ...so it's the SWEU "emperor's puppets" effect?

@Miniman It was a fairly ok book, what were the problems

@BESW I don't know that one

@Ben ah

I guess I just don't understand the issue in those circumstances then

In the Star Wars Expanded Universe, it was established that Emperor Palpatine was using a Force trick to enhance the quality of his troops in key battles across the galaxy, giving them better aim, improved coordination between legions, etc.

@BESW Oh, battle meditation

@SPavel Oh, the usual. Misogyny, gratuitous sexualisation, and so on.

yeah sort of like that I guess

@Miniman Isn't that a requirement for fantasy

@SPavel no,.... it is not

(Because they needed to justify why taking down the head of the empire caused it to collapse.)

@BESW Wasn't the justification just "the clone troopers were garbage, and everyone mostly did what they did because Palpatine is scary"

@SPavel Le Guin, Cooper, Orkorafor, Jemisin, L'Engle...

The Empire is basically a comical stack of villains that Palpatine bossed around, they'd turn on one another as soon as the Big Cheese fell down the hole

As a bonus, Vader got did, and he was just as scary, who else in the Empire had any kind of authority?

@SPavel Or "It's a fairy tale, and that's how fairy tales work, why are you trying to treat it like an antiseptic Asimov logic puzzle?"

@BESW I thought "Antiseptic Asimov Logic Puzzle" was literally one of the EU characters' names?

Exactly.

Still beats Savage Opress

@BESW Also, for a fairy, Yoda sure is ugly

And now I want to see a Star Wars / Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell crossover

Moisture farmers convince Ben Kenobi to come out of retirement and restore the tradition of the Force in the Empire; he takes on the gifted young apprentice Luke Skywalker, and everyone is 200% more British

I think that's the plot of Rivers of London.

@BESW Oh, that sounds pretty good

lol

I will take the opportunity to once again plug Monday Begins on Saturday

(Contemporary London police detective gets caught up in a revival of magic that's been thought dead since WWII, and becomes the apprentice of the last surviving wizard from that era, because if magic is returning they'll need magical policemen again.)

@trogdor This is from a game called "Golden Sun", where the magic is referred to as "Psynergy". The confusion is that "Synergy" is pronounced a particular way (i.e., "Sin-ergy") whereas the way the word "Psynergy" is spelled, makes you believe that it should be pronounced differently (i.e., "Sign-ergy")

@Ben Not to be confused with sinurgy, a particularly gross form of hydroelectric power that taps into the unending mucus flowing from the sinuses of people with colds.

@BESW Jonathan Strange takes place during the Napoleonic Wars; English magic has died out and it's ludicrous to even suggest that one might be a practicing magician, but it turns out that some bloke from the North is able to do it, he gets convinced by a librarian type guy to go to London and revive English magic, and the fae start causing trouble because of course they do

@SPavel I've read it, yes.

@BESW have you seen the TV series?

Started it; can't remember if I watched past the midpoint.

@BESW Lovely haha

Also if you haven't read Monday I recommend it - a computer programmer is recruited by a research university that studies magic, bureaucracy and shenanigans ensue

@SPavel The Laundry Files soured me on bureaucratic computer magic for the foreseeable future.

@BESW This is 1960s transistor computers

That part is just a setup; Merlin blows up the computer almost immediately when he tries to plug himself in

It's also Soviet workplace humour, so it's guaranteed fresh material :)

I did like Tower of Secrets.

@Ben This makes me think (once again) that I need to learn Japanese and play the non-translated game to find out what it's actually meant to be called. (And hopefully figure out why "psynergy" was what they translated it to.)

It's less "spy thriller" and more "research assistants mess around with expensive apparatus"

I feel like an enormous hypocrite:

@Ben ah ok

@Miniman How so?

@Ben Because I don't know anything about DW either.

@Miniman but you are right to call out an answer that begins with an admission they have no idea how dungeon world works

@Miniman Well, do you know that this is a system-dependant issue?

@Ben Every issue is system-dependent :P

Well I don't see the problem then :)

@Ben the role of the DM in DW is different in many ways from other systems. D&D in particular.

@doppelgreener Oh, I know. I just would've liked to upvote a comment from someone who knew what they were talking about instead of posting one in ignorance.

@Rubiksmoose in DW it's the GM, also, not the DM :P

(from the extremely limited time I've spent trying to learn to DM it so far.)

I'd understand that (I have even less of an idea about it, so I'm not gonna judge)

@doppelgreener hah! I should have known that was coming.

@BESW I finished it, it was pretty neat

@Miniman I've been learning Japanese for 1.5 years and I still can't read 99% of the sentences in Pokemon when I try to play it in that language. Not that I really expected to be even close to fluent, but it was a little surprising how little I could process.

@doppelgreener OK I think I'm good to post the DnDB question.

@Rubiksmoose i'm around!

@CTWind Posting that DndB question!

Thanks for the heads up!

@doppelgreener away she goes!

@Miniman I have a similar urge related to BoF3, there are several things said in it I am sure meant something different

that being said I would then have to also obtain a non-translated version

which would be tricky at best

@CTWind man that @CTWind can type like insanely fast! ;)

:-P

@CTWind It is worth noting that I tweaked the question just a bit.