I think (based on my assumptions on the state of medical science) that I have a higher life expectancy today than I did yesterday. But I don't think it increased by a full day, so really we're just pushing back the inevitable.
@Ben In all seriousness, though: "busier than a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest," as my father would say. Which is why I should be grading rather than lurking!
@NautArch That's the wrong way to think about it! Days are totally arbitrary, so you're really on a continuum towards death, not a cycle of repearing ticks! :))
@kviiri Nope. The magnetic north pole is like a twig sticking up into the Weave. So once a day it catches on a thread and then releases--TWANG!!--which causes ripples in the Weave. And that's how you get your spell slots back.
I am wanting to multiclass at least one level into fighter, for the fighting style, and second wind... a strong argument can be made for two, with the action surge
> - 22,500 gold pieces - 3 Uncommon Magic Items - 2 Rare Magic Items - 1 Very Rare Magic Item - No Unique Item, but Acquiring Legendary and Artefact stuff in game is possible
SO the question now is (before we really begin), would you rather have the TWF attack (which works against creatures of all sizes), or have a fairly consistent Shove that generates advantage for your Attacks(but only works against creatures one size larger or smaller).
so mechanically, do you like the consistent TWF bonus action attack (but without your proficiency modifier), or do you like the shove to create advantage on your other attacks (increasing crit chances and brutal)
Okay, so I came up with a three-way comparison between a Primal Champion Barbarian using a Battleaxe 2-handed, a Primal Champion Barbarian using Two-Weapon Fighting without the TWF Fighting Style, and a non-Primal Champion Barbarian using Two-Weapon Fighting with the TWF Fighting Style acquired from a 1 level Fighter dip. gist.github.com/Xirema/a2a4e1f6cd767b7a75071881ecfc8cf7
1. Crits aren't handled at all. Nor are Crit-Failures 2. At level 20, the Barbarian always has STR of 20, before Primal Champion is applied (so the Primal Champion has 24 STR) 3. They're using a non-magic weapon, so Primal Champion Barbarian has +13 to Attack, and +7 as their damage modifier, non-primal champion Barbarian has +11 to attack and +5 as their damage modifier
@Ben Like I said, I'm not great at formatting numbers.
@NautArch Working on it. I refactored the code into C++ and added special handling for crits/failures, but my java code which I'm using doesn't have that.
@NautArch I will say, my gut instinct again is that crits won't favor one fighting style over another, since the only difference is how the damage modifier gets added, which is not altered by crits.
@Ben Okay, so far I've used your Very Rare item on a Belt of Fire Giant Str (gets your STR to 25) and 4 ASIs on CON to get to 20. That brings you to unarmored AC of 23.
It might favor 2h-fighting over TWF fighting, but that's not the comparison I'm interested in: @Ben has already said they want to go TWF fighting, so really it's only a comparison between PC TWF and TWFFS TWF.
In that case though, for every example, PC TWF does have a higher damage output than TWFFS TWF.
I will say this much: TWF Barbarian is very competitive in terms of damage output, even without Two-Weapon-Fighting-Style.
(Also, based on my calculations, a TWF Barbarian with Primal Champion is actually better than the TWF Barbarian that dips 1 level of fighter for TWF Fighting Style)
@Xirema Yeah, +2 to hit and +2 to damage can do that
Especially where bonus vs AC is at a place where +2 actually gives you 2 more faces to roll (unlike e.g. high-level Pathfinder where any martial hits on a 2 with their first attack, and bonuses just increase second/third attack chances)
Oh, I had to update the chart: forgot to take into account the flat +4 bonus from raging (permanently). Same results though: TWF Barb without TWFFS is still better. gist.github.com/Xirema/a0fede56c791e07fef1efb09ec98a6de
@NautArch If you scroll all the way to the bottom, you can see that the TWFFS version has a 21% chance of dealing 0 damage against an AC24 creature, whereas the PCTWF only has a 12.5% chance of dealing 0 damage. That's obviously not the whole story (most of that lost 8.5% is in PCTWF dealing 5-9 damage, whereas the next lowest damage for TWFFS is 10 damage), but it does affect how you perceive the flow of combat.
I wish I'd added crit handling to my program when I first wrote it. Adding it when I was doing the total conversion to C++ was so much easier than it'll be to add it ad-hoc after the fact.
@nitsua60 Bearing in mind the PC TWF fighting also has an additional 3.5 from the extra 1d6. So it's more like two attacks at +7, 1d6 +7, along with a third attack at +7, 1d6+0.
Are we a Q&A site, or a support group? Well, sometimes we seem to be a support group, and I think that for questions like that it's a good thing. Doesn't need to be either / or situation.
@NautArch The belt definitely alters my calculations, and without running the numbers, I'm assuming it skews things back in favor of TWFFS instead of PCTWF.
@Xirema I don't see how you're getting +7 on all three attacks. There should be a 2-mod differential on to-hit between Bb20 and Bb19/F1 (because of the strength bump to 24).
@nitsua60 I'm talking about the Primal Champion Two-Weapon fighting, where you're attacking twice normally, and getting a bonus action attack. All three have a +hit of 7, but only two have a +damage of 7.
Can we get a couple more votes to close this question please? It is unclear to me (and others) what they are actually asking here and I think it will be much improved if they come back and clarify.
@goodguy5 I also have an amendment from the dm for my "Goring rush" (horns) - On a missed attack, you are open to an Attack of Opportunity by the target.
But, thinking about it, he might be a bit tentative about that - come up with his own house ruling (as an allowance for the race), only to have it negated
@Ben I wouldn't do this if I were you. OAs in 5e are very purposfeully limited. I wouldn't allow people to houserule specific cases in to complicate it.
@Ben I wonder if I played too much Red Baron in my formative years if Göring is to me "the WWI ace pilot who later became a major Nazi leader" instead of "the major Nazi leader who used to be a WWI ace pilot"...
@NautArch interesting. I'd always read Undead Fortitude as a narrative beat: "you thought you dropped the zombie, but really it was still kicking!" I don't think there's really anything in the text to support one over the other, really.
Yes, the Barbarian will be disintegrated.
While 5e lacks -HP tracking and instead simply issues failures on damage taken when unconcious, this doesn't matter in the slightest.
The Disintegrate spell will deal combat damage to the Barbarian. Since the Barbarian is at 0 HP, the effect of Disinte...
@Rubiksmoose yeah, i think it's a narrative question also. DOes the zombie stay upright? Or does it fall, make the size and rise back from the dead again.
@NautArch I added an answer to that disintegrate question. The top two answers are honestly just wrong... The selected answer doesn't even really seem to answer the question.
I remember not answering this one at the time since I had game night and didn't think there was really any impact to the spell, but it bothers me to see incorrect answers up there. Am I crazy?
eh, I think they have the problem that it's very obvious what should happen intuitively and they're trying to awkwardly interpret the rules so that that is what happens rather than just going "yeah the rules are janky in this case"
