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BESW

00:00

He uses a very similar hat to hook up to a crystal skull and tap its psychic powers for his cult.

Malice Vidrine

Hm, I'd have to throw some Tarkovsky in mine, too, I think...

BESW

Because I'm a graphic designer, I went a little crazy with the actual layout of the map. I wouldn't expect anyone else to do all the visual fiddly bits.

Malice Vidrine

Because I'm a mathematician, I'm wondering about formulaic methods of deciding square size for a given work. :p

doppelgreener

@BESW I still need to make that. I'll do that in gdocs sometime when I remember.

BESW

If you guys provide pictures and sizes, I can put 'em together.

(or just rate them and I'll figure out what that means for sizes.)

(By the book, it's 13 pictures total.)

doppelgreener

00:19

Ah, I plan to use Google Docs actually specifically because it's trivial to work with.

BESW

Okay, I'm off to find out why spending $1000 on my car just made it change the kinds of alarming noises it makes.

trogdor

that doesn't sound too good

doppelgreener

It's gone from shrieking incessantly about shrubs to yelling about commies and conspiracy theories.

Malice Vidrine

@BESW - Hope you get the Martian reptilian detector on your car fixed!

Malice Vidrine

00:57

Critical Role 43 has so many good moments....

Malice Vidrine

02:26

Blam. Influence map for my game. Which would help if I thought any of my players would know the references :P

But it was fun to make, anyhow.

Pixie

I recognize Boogiepop Phantom (though I haven't seen this yet) and Kyubey. :P

Malice Vidrine

Yay for recognizing those two!

There's also Elric of Melnibone, the King in Yellow, The Night Land, Imajica, Planetary, the Invisibles, and a very obscure comic called Vermillion.

And yet for all the quasi-lovecraftian influences, there are no tentacled horrors of note in my game.

doppelgreener

@MaliceVidrine I recognise one of these things and it's in the bottom right.

trogdor

@doppelgreener Kyubey?

doppelgreener

@trogdor Yup.

trogdor

02:35

I recognize it too, but only because people have linked it here XD

and then I looked it up and it terrifies me

it doesn't help that it looks like a cat monster alien

BESW

@MaliceVidrine Lovecraft didn't pull out the tentacles much in his own stories either.

doppelgreener

Also, whether your players recognise the references or not in your influence map is actually a really good source of inspiration. When BESW, Trogdor, myself and some other friends started up our Weird Science & Supernatural Stuff game, they had in their minds "Hellboy, Atomic Robo, X-Files, Warehouse 13." I know of the first two, and they're both very frequently light-hearted, fun, goofy, and dramatic and deep when it counts.

There was a lot of stuff coming up every now and then that was weird for me, and seemed like not what I'd signed up for. It probably came from the sources I wasn't familiar with.

trogdor

yeah, X-Files is not especially lighthearted

doppelgreener

So, BESW floated the idea a while back - we've all been lazy and haven't done it yet - of each doing our own influence maps. Then we take the major overlap between all of them, form a group influence map, and then we'll collectively neutrally draw from that influence map and get something we all expect.

Malice Vidrine

Kyubei is one of my favorite anime villains ever. Largely because he's just so cold about it.

doppelgreener

02:39

I think I should put MIB on my influence map as well. Dan might do the same with his.

Malice Vidrine

And if you haven't read The Invisibles or Planetary, I highly recommend them.

doppelgreener

@trogdor Yeah. Two of the sources y'all had in mind which I was familiar with were very different to the two sources I wasn't familiar with.

trogdor

I didn't personally think anyone had not seen X-Files. I know that is a very silly thing to think XD

doppelgreener

Still, it's been very enlightening about what different influences bring to the table and what sort of tugs they can have on game tone and content.

BESW

@doppelgreener Warehouse 13 is more of "fun, goofy, romantic, but with deep-running veins of WTF THAT IS NOT OKAY."

trogdor

02:42

yeah

Malice Vidrine

Everybody has seen the X-Files. Clearly, those who have not are simply not people, whatever else their virtues may be :P

trogdor

lol

my parents had us watch it with them when every new episode came out

Malice Vidrine

Yeah, it was something I watched with my mom all the time back in the day.

trogdor

a few episodes had me losing sleep some nights

Malice Vidrine

Like Doctor Who.

trogdor

02:44

then I saw Alien and I got over X-Files scary parts pretty quickly XD

Malice Vidrine

Alien is amazing. There aren't a lot of horror films that hold up quite so well.

doppelgreener

@MaliceVidrine WHAT. I am a perfectly ordinary human. I even have the correct number of limbs, within an acceptable margin of error.

trogdor

but I expected some horrible Alien monster to show up and ruin my night for a week XD

Malice Vidrine

Actually, upon reflection, I think I should make all my players read Planetary. I think that would help them build appropriate characters, which was difficult for one of them. The protagonists of Planetary were essentially superpowered archaeologists trying to uncover the secret history of the 20th century.

(I'm babbling to myself at this point)

And it'd be handy to have an example of "detective adventurers" that aren't Batman on hand.

BESW

02:59

There are a lot of detective adventurers! Constantine, Burkhardt, Kolchak, Angel...

Malice Vidrine

Constantine is right in the neighborhood, true. Don't know who Burkhardt is. Kolchak and Angel are delightful, but schlocky for what I have in mind :P

doppelgreener

@BESW Which Burkhardt? Google turns up a few.

Malice Vidrine

Clearly the Mila Kunis character Jackie Burkhardt.

BESW

Nick Burkhardt is the protagonist of the TV show Grimm. He's one of the very few people in the world who can see the myriad "wesen," people who inherit animalistic physical qualities and live according to ancient cultural codes which are often at odds with modern sensibilities.

Malice Vidrine

Also played by Mila Kunis. True story.

BESW

03:05

Historically Grimms tend to just assume wesen are violent and inhuman and kill them on sight, but Nick is a police detective who specialises in solving wesen-related murders, usually wesen-on-wesen violence.

Malice Vidrine

Also Akemi Homura in Puella Magi Madoka Magica: Rebellion :D

BESW

@MaliceVidrine I'm guessing Sapphire & Steel is too far out there to be a good example.

trogdor

lol

Malice Vidrine

Detective adventurer in the bleakest magical girl anime ever!

trogdor

Sapphire and Steel probably is if Angel doesn't quite fit

BESW

03:11

Well, Malice said Angel was too "schlocky." S&S is has a shoestring budget, but it's not schlock by any means.

trogdor

@MaliceVidrine I would think most magical girl anime isn't gunning for bleak as hard, seeing as it is literally full throttle in that direction apparently

Malice Vidrine

Sapphire and Steel sounds kind of awesome from the wikipedia premise :P

trogdor

@BESW I meant more how weird it's scenarios are

BESW

Hmm. Sandman Slim kinda-sorta counts, but he's a detective in only the most reluctant and rudimentary sort of way. Harry Dresden is probably too pulp. Anita Blake is definitely too schlocky.

@MaliceVidrine It's one of those "you love it or it bores you to tears" kinds of things.

Malice Vidrine

@trogdor - When you read between the lines and see magical girls as a "child soldier" scenario, Madoka Magica is satisfying because it carries that to its logical conclusion. But then I like bleak.

BESW

03:15

The Winchester brothers might count. Van Helsing from the original Stoker novel. The hapless tenants of 14, perhaps.

Malice Vidrine

The characters in my story are facing the end of the universe, and they absolutely cannot win. :P

BESW

@MaliceVidrine Oh, The Laundry Files.

Malice Vidrine

I've read ALL laundry files novels.

<3 Laundry.

BESW

I found its individual concepts very interesting, but its overall ethos and aesthetic was not to my taste at all, especially as the series progressed.

I prefer Cline's 14 and The Fold, for almost exactly the same concept presented in a very different light.

trogdor

@MaliceVidrine it is a strange concept to receive the light-hearted treatment it sometimes does

BESW

03:20

In Cline's setting, the spoiler happened in the early 20th century, and spoiler is being combatted by spoiler, designed by spoiler and funded by spoiler.

Malice Vidrine

I've also suggested to my players the idea of entourage play riffing off Ars Magica's style of play, which alleviates a bit of pressure to create a proper detective adventurer by having a couple of specialists.

We'll see. I have no idea what i'm doing but I'll figure it out.

BESW

14 is about some random people investigating the spoiler and accidentally spoilering it, which ends spoiler. The Fold is about scientists who invent spoiler which is powered by spoiler and all the problems that causes.

Malice Vidrine

Nice.

And then there's Adventure Time, which actually has a surprisingly well-developed lovecraftian mythology, strangely.

BESW

I was fond of D&D 4e's take on the concept too.

Malice Vidrine

What take is that?

BESW

03:29

This is my logical extension of the basic implications of the setting. I didn't change anything, just spun out a few things which were hinted at.

Malice Vidrine

That's actually what universes are like in the bigger picture of this setting. Outside of reality is an endless sea of proto-life, endless chaos and lust and terror and hunger. The multiverse is a congealed, crystalized lump in the middle of this, but the "inhabitants" of the chaotic substrate want in for no other reason than that it's the only thing denied them.

(By "this setting" I mean "in my game")

BESW

Points of Light is pretty much the only made-specially-for-an-RPG setting that I've ever really loved and used mostly untouched for my campaigns.

Malice Vidrine

(And what makes the gods dislike people like the PCs in my setting is that such people are basically access points to this pure chaos.)

Actually I bet with the help of some kind of higher order mereotopological theory I can actually formalize the basic metaphysical structure of my game's universe....

Of course, my obsession for this setup probably actually dates back to the movie Event Horizon :P

Because Laurence Fishburne, Sam Neill, and a space ship that leaves the universe and comes back alive and terrifying.

Winning combination.

BESW

03:56

Shame the film's last act didn't match up to the first two.

Malice Vidrine

Yeah. As much as people talk smack about remakes, there are some films I hope they remake to give a good idea a second chance. Event horizon is one of them.

Also an influence: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadside_Picnic

BESW

04:42

@eimyr The guy I really wanted to talk about Dog Eat Dog, within two minutes of starting to explain it, was online ordering a copy and planning to use it with his students (he's a professor of Chamorro history, and his research speciality is gender and militarism in colonial Pacific cultures).

BTW, @doppelgreener, is this possibly one of Cassandra's relations?

doppelgreener

05:18

@BESW Probably! He doesn't look very evil, so he might also be someone good she knows. He might be Nicolas Flamel.

BESW

Original source is Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norris.

doppelgreener

@BESW That's the thing with the sit-down Wizard Duel, isn't it?

BESW

That being Jonathan Strange in the picture, attempting to distill madness.

@doppelgreener I don't think so.

trogdor

@BESW I hate to say it, but it looks almost like he already has some

BESW

@trogdor Well, he's been trying for quite some time.

Eventually he had to get a crazy cat lady to infuse Essence of Madness in a dead mouse, which he then used as the base for a potion.

trogdor

05:23

was the crazy cat lady a witch? or was she just sort of a ritualistic "ingredient"?

BESW

She was crazy enough to instinctively know a little magic, if he gave her a push.

trogdor

ah

Malice Vidrine

Not a lot of people know that toxoplasmosis enhances magical powers.

6

BESW

@MaliceVidrine This explains a lot.

trogdor

maybe I should clean out the cat litter more often,... or maybe not

nope

still too gross

BESW

05:29

**Cool RPG stuff:** [Bundle of Holding](http://bundleofholding.com "buy RPGs cheap in bulk, support charities & indie designers!");
[Storium with the Stack](http://goo.gl/forms/jvz9Bs6jg8 "an interest survey");
[Deep Dark Blue](http://drivethrurpg.com/product/175636/Deep-Dark-Blue--A-World-of-Adventure-for-Fate-Core "A World of Adventure for Fate Core awaits between the devil and the deep blue sea…");
[Storium launch](https://storium.com/ "Still no native library of storycard art, though.");
[Conan RPG](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/modiphius/robert-e-howards-conan-roleplaying-game "…

doppelgreener

@BESW What are the responses to the Storium game looking like so far?

trogdor

ah

I had meant to ask that myself yesterday XD

BESW

I have 12 responses, including my own.
- Steampunk and Gargantuan are tied for the lead with Fantasy Classic a close second.
- We'll be using a traditional single-narrator format.
- We'll probably be doing two or three scenes a week.
- The first story will be short, about six scenes altogether.
- Mechanics and story will be balanced in equal measure.
- Players won't narrate others' characters unless they have explicit permission to do so.
- The story will be public, but commentary will be private.

Four people have volunteered to be the narrator.

doppelgreener

Two or three scenes a week, or posts?

BESW

Mm, posts.

doppelgreener

05:37

that's quite a difference :D

BESW

Not... exactly.

More than half the group can post at least 1/day. The rest are once-to-three-times-a-week.

In my experience, that means the frequent posters will post multiple times per scene and the less-frequent posters will average about once per scene.

doppelgreener

Hmm.

BESW

It's difficult to slow down the multiple-posts-per-day folks to match a few-times-per-week schedule.

doppelgreener

[ponders] I should go see my psychologist again. I have an unfortunate step in my work ethic thought process I need to remove that makes me intimidated by and dissuaded from moderate-sized tasks and greater unless they are immediately rewarding.

BESW

However, the built-in limit of 3 cards per player per scene puts a break on the ability of frequent posters to actually dominate the action of a scene, even though they can effectively control its tone.

@doppelgreener ...I think I know that feel.

I do wish I knew who filled out the survey as "RPGSE handle." They volunteered to be a narrator with a post rate of 2-3/day.

trogdor

05:46

oh, I think that was me,... unless they only wanted to be the narrator

I didn't know it didn't tell you who was doing it

it seemed like it was based off the site XD

next time I will just put Trogdor

my bad

BESW

I don't have a Trogdor on the list, so that works.

trogdor

it didn't help that the survey asked if you would just be known by your RPGSE handle

I thought that meant it could be a generic response XD

I guess I get to wear the Dunce cap today

anyway, I don't know if I can narrate and also post 2-3 times a day at the same time,.... I don't think it separated those things

but I can definitely at least do either

I am pretty sure I put in that I am ok with narrating and being a PC

BESW

Yeah, I didn't word that as well as I could've.

trogdor

that being said, it sounds like we might be low on narrators

BESW

Mmm. For this game, it'd be one narrator for the whole game.

And that player wouldn't have a character in addition.

trogdor

05:53

oh, just one game

I seeeee

doppelgreener

Dunce caps for everyone!

[puts his on. it is too small and is hidden by his magnificent crown. smiles deviously.]

trogdor

cheater

doppelgreener

what? i am wearing it. it is even the same size as your one.

this is perfectly fair.

trogdor

sure it is

I certainly didn't BURNINATE mine

why would you accuse me of such a thing?

doppelgreener

hmm yes. i certainly didn't see anything like that take place.

trogdor

05:59

I guess we don't necessarily know the setting yet

BESW

If I'm running it, I'll probably go with Steampunk. But I'll wait for my final choice until I see the art library.

trogdor

06:32

mk

that is fair enough I think

I don't personally know what the setting would be if I ran it

but I am still willing to do it if that is needed

and I think I could at least come up with something

XD

BESW

I was hoping Weird Fruit would be more popular.

Will probably run my own secondary game in that.

trogdor

I may or may not have actually expressed interest in the weird fruit one,.... if I didn't I would actually like to say I would still play that XD

Miniman

I'll admit I didn't tick Weird Fruit - I found the description pretty confusing.

Magician

It seemed way too quirky for its own good.

BESW

06:49

It's an Ursula Vernon world.

Rodentia and gardening gone amuck.

Malice Vidrine

There need to be more games with fancy rat PCs. Just saying.

BESW

Also battle hamsters.

doppelgreener

@BESW I'd totally play in that.

trogdor

lol

Malice Vidrine

And sea pigs: youtu.be/_y4DbZivHCY

doppelgreener

07:03

@MaliceVidrine I think those may not specifically be in the Weird Fruit world, but these do seem tangentially relephant.

BESW

Sea pigs are more of a Danny Dragonbreath thing.

Malice Vidrine

Which means I have to google that now.

BESW

Ursula Vernon's illustrated chapter book series for kids, about a dragon who goes to school with other, less fantastical reptiles and takes them on fantastic adventures he doesn't know are remarkable.

BESW

08:32

Because it's March 14th, tonight's dinner is main dish pie (curried split peas, lentils, carrots, onions, tofu, bell peppers) and an apple pie.

Miniman

@BESW What's the significance of March 14th?

BESW

Pi Day

Pi Day is an annual celebration of the mathematical constant π (pi). Pi Day is observed on March 14 (3/14 in the month/day date format) since 3, 1, and 4 are the first three significant digits of π. In 2009, the United States House of Representatives supported the designation of Pi Day. Pi Approximation Day is observed on July 22 (22/7 in the day/month date format), since the fraction 22⁄7 is a common approximation of π, which is accurate to two decimal places and dates from Archimedes. == History == The earliest known official or large-scale celebration of Pi Day was organized by Larry Shaw in...

Miniman

@BESW Oops, I should've gotten that.

BESW

My mother is an anti-Tauist.

Miniman

I can't work out if the Tau thing is serious, or, if it's satire, what it's meant to be satire of.

BESW

08:45

It's serious.

nitsua60

08:59

@BESW on the licensing of Storium: if it'd had a "no preference" choice I'd have gone that way,so if you'd like to effectively discount my license vote feel free to do so.

Miniman

@nitsua60 Same here, I can't even remember which one I picked.

nitsua60

@Miniman @BESW I tried for whichever seemed closest to "I won't ever be doing anything with the output except printing a copy for my shelf, but I don't want to stand in the way of anyone else doing whatever they'd like."

BESW

Gotcha.

@ToshinouKyouko Hi!

Toshinou Kyouko

09:15

@BESW yo

BESW

What's new?

Toshinou Kyouko

not much

almost finished our main campaign in D&D

gonna give DMing a go for a short session or two

BESW

Cool.

Toshinou Kyouko

we're pretty invested in our characters now, so a lot of our time is trying to compromise between the entire party

eimyr

10:41

@BESW They must be hamsters, they are holding weapons with their paws.

I imagine they ride guinea pigs to war.

BESW

trogdor

wouldn't the guinea pigs object to that?

BESW

> The guinea pig is not known as a smart or reliable steed, nor even a terribly fast one, although they can put on a good scrambling turn of speed when panicked (often into walls, while uttering a frantic "WHEEP! WHEEP!" as they go.) But they're cute and good-natured and exceedingly docile, and they utter a charming purr when happy, so people insist on thinking they're a good mount for the elderly and infirm. This has led to the regrettably common sight in many cities--first the distant piercing "WHEEP! WHEEP!" and the thin screams of the invalid tied to it, then the scrabbling gallop of th…

(source)

eimyr

Yeah, unfortunately the biggest enemy of guinea pigs is hay.

I know it well.

trogdor

are they allergic to it?

eimyr

10:44

I have seven of them and they go through a bale of hay in about a month or so.

No, guineas are fibrevores.

trogdor

ah ok

eimyr

Their diet is 70-90% hay and dried grass.

10% of fresh veg with a dash of fruit.

BESW

munchmunchmunchmunchcrunchmunchmunchmunch

trogdor

so what you mean is it is expensive to feed them?

Magician

Pre-emptive guinea pig. "He insists on formality. He's a projectile, not a conversationalist."

BESW

10:46

What.

Magician

Fallen London is also weird :)

eimyr

@trogdor a bale of hay when sourced from a local farm is under 5£, but when you add the dried herbs, toys, vitaminised pellet feed, fresh veg, various bits and bobs it can be quite a commitment.

Magician

^ There's an entire island in Sunless Sea about the war between the two.

trogdor

@eimyr ah

BESW

I see.

eimyr

10:48

@trogdor It's just that the hay takes a lot of space and many trips to the garden shack to replenish your supplies. And it gets everywhere.

It's still worth it.

BESW

Is "Barious" a goblin name now?

eimyr

I haven't updated it in a while

but I guess it should be

Magician

Barious the Secodn.

2

trogdor

@eimyr I never said it wasn't XD

BESW

@Magician Late of Pogmire.

trogdor

10:50

I was just curious, now I feel a little more informed

eimyr

@Magician I assume tehy are nubmered Teh Frist, Teh Secodn, Teh Tihrd and so froth.

@trogdor Guinea pigs are probably the best pet you can have. Docile, friendly, vocal and cute.

BESW

...they're ferrets on downers?

trogdor

so they won't bite you like a hamster, I take it XD

eimyr

@trogdor They do have requirements though - they're social, they need more space than you think, they need fibre-based high VitC diet and regular vet checkups.

@trogdor A guinea pig that bites is really ill. They might nibble on you but they would never break the skin.

trogdor

mm

BESW

10:53

[imagines zombie guinea pigs]

trogdor

a freind of mine had a hamster who was apparently a biting machine XD

BESW

[...or vampire guinea pigs]

eimyr

I had one of mine bite me, because it was scared it gets abducted by a bird of prey. I shouldn;'t have picked her up one handed.

Yeah, hamsters are vicious.

But hammies are solitary animals (mostly, there are species that are social), they are territorial and omnivorous.

trogdor

I say it having not been stupid enough to try to touch the thing after he told me XD

eimyr

Well, I'm not surprised they are frightened more often than not. Feeding time is an episode of Attack on Titan to them, only with more food and less carnage.

BESW

10:57

I have not known any pigs or hams, but I knew a rabbit that lived for blood and suffering.

It was swiftly named Attila the Bun.

eimyr

Again, rabbits are territorial and well equipped to hurt other beings.

I have a rabbit (my GFs) that is very cute and cuddly and docile. Except it hates me.

BESW

I also knew some ferrets, which were delightful but demanding and actively opposed to the concept of personal space.

eimyr

It will not be in my presence willingly. It will not eat or drink if I'm on the same floor as her. It will not stop running if I approach.

trogdor

@BESW that sounds a lot like my cat

BESW

@trogdor Yes, but with less homicide.

trogdor

11:01

yes

this is true

BESW

@eimyr Aw. That reminds me of our cockatiel, which hated women.

trogdor

but I suspect the other cat does most of the murder, but I believe that is mostly because mine is lazy

eimyr

The bunny hates my guts. If hate was a liquid, it would drown me.

BESW

It also hated other birds.

eimyr

@BESW Very true. The bunny is adopted and it reacts the same way to all men, but to me especially, as I picked it up a couple times (to check the bottom for dirt) and they hate it.

BESW

11:02

It was okay with the dog, and with men.

(It would try to perch on the dog, which terrified the dog.)

eimyr

lulz

BESW

I also knew a black lab who was the sweetest thing ever unless you turned your back on him while wearing khaki pants--if you did that, your butt was forfeit.

eimyr

weird

BESW

We think he had an early traumatic experience with someone in khaki pants.

eimyr

most dogs react with relaxation to butts, as turning away is considered "meh, I'm not threateaning, now come sniff me if you want" in dog.

trogdor

11:07

I still occasionally pet sit a golden retriever who is the dumbest animal I have ever met, and I have pet sat at least three others of the same breed, it isn't a breed thing XD

not vicious though

eimyr

@trogdor "(...) the circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - Mewtwo

trogdor

lol

I just wanted to dispel any implication that it was the breed of the dog or that I personally thought so

XD

BESW

This guy had all the affection and health problems common to black labs, but most of his brains were MIA.

He could count and tell time, but that was about it.

eimyr

Tomorrow's headlines: "A vicious black labrador has licked a man to death. He thought the man was food."

BESW

Heheh.

It was one of those homes where thunderstorms meant every lap had to have a dog.

I was alone there once when it started thundering, and nearly died.

trogdor

11:13

I had a neighbor who had these,.... huge just gigantic dogs

eimyr

I don't get it.

trogdor

I don't remember what the breed was, but half the males were horribly mean and scary

eimyr

What good is a dog in a thunderstorm?

trogdor

all the other dogs were actually really nice

BESW

@eimyr Think about it the other way 'round.

eimyr

11:14

Is your death literal or figurative, as in "I saw Benedict Bumberbunder and I dieded to death".

What good is a thunderstorm in a dog?

Nope, still doesn't work.

trogdor

lol

BESW

Every dog had to be in a lap during thunderstorms.

"Thunder! Must find lap to occupy!"

When mine was the only lap available, well. You've heard the term "dogpile"?

eimyr

Oh.

I always imagine you as a tall, well-built community leader. That is at the same time Chamorro and Aryan in appearance.

In my mind you can handle a few dogs.

Not to mention a thunderstorm.

trogdor

loooooooool

BESW

At the time I was about 1.8m and under 65kg.

eimyr

11:19

So the weight of the dogpile outwieghed you?

BESW

Yes.

One of the dogs probably outweighed me.

Also I didn't have a lot of lap for them to share.

eimyr

with 1.8 it's not too little either, at least lengthwise

BESW

True.

One fat black lab takes ~~most~~ all of it though.

@eimyr This is me from a couple summers ago, in the background.

eimyr

You look younger than I imagined.

BESW

I'm often mistaken for at least five years younger.

eimyr

11:28

You look like a twentysomething here and I always imagined you're in high 30's

not that it matters though

grats on the looks

BESW

I was... 28 at the time, I think.

Thank you. I wouldn't mind people thinking I've graduated college though.

I'm closing in on 31 now.

eimyr

You do sound older than this when you speak. It may be because you hold very weighted and well rooted opinions about most of everything and refrain from voicing your judgments hastily.

BESW

Heh. My raiding guild in WoW thought I was a retired professor.

Then I got on voice chat and they freaked out.

eimyr

11:44

hah

WoW

Hmmm

What class in WoW is the BESWest?

I'd say Druid. You sound like a druid or a shaman.

Unless you are a filthy Alliance scum, in which case all bets are off.

trogdor

lol

BESW

Forsaken priest primary and tauren druid secondary. Heals and tanks.

eimyr

sounds about right, it does

I played wow some too. I dare you to class me,.

Pixie

I have had the the "How old are you?" "25." "???!??!?!" conversation several times a week lately. I get mistaken not only for 5 years younger but sometimes 10 years younger.

BESW

[squint] Is it one of the new classes? I don't know the new classes.

eimyr

11:47

nah, It was pre-cataclysm

BESW

For some reason, my first guess is troll hunter.

trogdor

lol

eimyr

huh

because I'm a troll?

or because I'm a hunter?

trogdor

warlock

eimyr

@trogdor bingo, forsaken one.

trogdor

11:49

XD

eimyr

@Pixie I'm starting to look my age now, but a couple years back I was sometimes mistaken for a teen.

I'm going 29 this year and I'd say it stopped three-four years ago

Pixie

It runs in my family. When I was in highschool, my grandmother was mistaken for my mother and my mother sometimes for my sister.

BESW

When I was in college, I got mistaken for my mother once.

eimyr

Now that's something.

trogdor

when people get my age wrong,... it is all over the place

some people think I am older, and some think I am younger

eimyr

11:55

@Pixie A lot of people thought I was a girl when I was an infant.

Pixie

@BESW Heh. I've never quite managed that.

BESW

One of my friends in college derived an Expected Gender Ratio from observing that in groups of mostly women I was assumed to be male, and in groups of mostly men I was assumed to be female.

This isn't a thing now that I keep my hair shorter and don't wear such baggy clothing, but it was very consistent for a few years.

eimyr

Huh.

So you were a superposition of genders until observed.

And the measurement method determined the outcome.

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