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BESW

12:32 AM

You know what looks utterly bizarre? Steam engines after boiler explosions. https://t.co/cejm75zYMR

Tweeted by Duncan_Gates on December 1, 2015 at 9:54 PM

Smurfton

12:55 AM

Wheeeeee

Let's all take a ride on the "prodding sensitive topics" train.

Shalvenay

@DuckTapeAl -- hey there

The Oracle

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Q: Let's do that thing where we use our words

This has the potential to be a flame war, so I encourage everyone who involves themselves in this to self-moderate. On the other hand, since this is focusing on doubts about our moderators, I'm also asking that nothing gets deleted without a comment saying that it should be from either the same s...

Smurfton

Oh look, the train has just arrived

doppelgreener

@BESW [REDACTED] the Tank Engine was not such a popular series proposal, and never made it past the pilot stages with kids, who afterwards needed counseling.

DuckTapeAl

1:17 AM

@Shalvenay Hello!

Hey, does anyone have a Nook? I need to do some remote tech support, and I'm hoping to get some basic info.

Shalvenay

@DuckTapeAl sadly, I do not. how are things otherwise, though?

DuckTapeAl

Generally okay. My diabetes isn't getting worse, and I'll probably get to stay home tomorrow due to snow.

Adeptus

I have a Kobo, if that helps? (probably not)

DuckTapeAl

I don't think it does.

The problem is that I need to guide my niece through adding an ebook to her Mom's Nook, and I don't know if there's like, standard software for that.

My niece is pretty decent with technology, but she's still like, 10, so I want to have better instructions than "here's the file, go nuts".

I use Calibre for my Kindle, but I'm almost certain that installing Calibre on their machine would basically just mean that they have another program they never use except for this one thing.

Joshua Aslan Smith

1:39 AM

@DuckTapeAl what is the ebook format currently

DuckTapeAl

ePub.

More specifically, I can convert it on my end pretty easily.

Joshua Aslan Smith

ah so more just the loading of the correct format onto the nook in question

@DuckTapeAl everything im seeing looks like it should show up automatically once plugged into the PC as an external HD/flashdrive

and its just drag and drop and then itll be in the "my documents" section of the nook

@waxeagle dreadgazebo made a vid of gming on tabeltop simulator pretty sweet

Shadow of the Demon Lord | A Year Without Rain | Session #1 (edited)

►

Adeptus

@JoshuaAslanSmith Yep, I've used a couple of different ereaders, and actual file transfer is just "plug in via USB cable, then copy to it like it's any other drive"

DuckTapeAl

2:00 AM

Okay. Thanks!

fingers crossed

wax eagle

@JoshuaAslanSmith interesting, will check out when I have time :)

BESW

Midnight Radio, a short comic.

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wax eagle

@JoshuaAslanSmith @Grubermensch @RobertF @Shalvenay hangouts.google.com/call/rh4zz5jurkxr7el5pa3pz242u4a

BESW

2:17 AM

@doppelgreener The practical effects master for the pilot was later tried for "unspeakable acts with a locomotive" and spent the rest of his life in an asylum, where the steam from hot drinks would send him into depressive fits.

Smurfton

why is this train so slow

i swear i can still see the station

BESW

Everyone's triple-checking if it's going to their stop.

Seriously though, most folks check the Stack once a day, at most.

Smurfton

huh. I kind of just leave a tab open

BESW

We are in the minority.

doppelgreener

@BESW marvelous

Joshua Aslan Smith

2:20 AM

toats mcgoats

BESW

@doppelgreener I left a note for you in the Spoil Lair.

Just an idea that you might find useful for pushing any given concept.

doppelgreener

@BESW much appreciated

BESW

2:42 AM

Okay, chat, I need help brainstorming how to make this work. Here's a generic stunt from Umdaar:

> Element Manipulation (Clever): You can move and manipulate a specific type of element. Pick a broad type of element, such as air, water, earth, metal, plants, or fire. Whenever this element is present in a scene, you can attack without a weapon. If the source of the element is abundant—air in an open space, or fire from a torch in the wall—you also gain +2 when Cleverly creating advantages using that element.

I want to choose the "element" of words.

What does that look like? What can it do?

Smurfton

Very effective intimidation

The Dashing Swordsman PrC in Order of the Stick, except without a weapon, obviously

BESW

I'm thinking of having a priest/scholar flavour for the character.

With overt word-based magic.

Smurfton

Ok. So like the character reading a (presumably irl mostly-fake, internally consistent) liturgy?

BESW

I'm hoping for "using the words in the scene" at least as much as "making new words."

Smurfton

And then having said word based magic only work if you can come up with something liturgy-ish that fits in your cosmology and mentions something related

You could actually probably be a pretty good mage doing that with the old testament of the Bible

So, more priest, more scholar, or is there no difference in setting/opinion of character?

BESW

2:49 AM

"Runekeeper" is someone who studied the ancient Atlantean technology of the setting with the attitude that it's religious relics of power.

From a modern standpoint, it's "sufficiently advanced technology indistinguishable from magic."

Magician

> Rhythmic movement of stanza jaws
> Works through succulent mind
> Hungry rhymes bare syllable teeth
> Audience is a rare find

> Sharp allusions of biting wit
> Tear at the quivering heart
> Metaphorical munching
> Accompanies the screams’ start

> Flesh succumbs to the similes
> Words gnaw at the crumbling bones
> Nothing's left of the listener
> But poetry's satisfied moans

Smurfton

Okay. Is the goal of your character to develop, or to discover? That's a major factor in what it sounds like.

Magician

Ahem. Yes. Words. Carry on.

Smurfton

@Magician Nice.

If your character wants to develop, your sets of words would likely be more...targeted towards the current situation.
If your character wants to discover, your words would likely be recitations of historical religious events which just so happen to apply.

Shalvenay

@Smurfton probably on slow-speed track in some interlocking or yard, or just stuck behind another train or over bad track

Smurfton

2:55 AM

@Shalvenay That might be it. It's kind of embarrassing to be waving goodbye to my loved ones an hour after I leave the station. My arm's getting tired.

Shalvenay

@Smurfton where are you departing from, and on what train?

Smurfton

@Shalvenay Oh, I'm on the express Life-Sucks train, going from Not-involved-ville to the City of Brass, on the Elemental Plane of Flame Wars

Shalvenay

@Smurfton oh. :P

Smurfton

More seriously, this is the train

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Q: Let's do that thing where we use our words

This has the potential to be a flame war, so I encourage everyone who involves themselves in this to self-moderate. On the other hand, since this is focusing on doubts about our moderators, I'm also asking that nothing gets deleted without a comment saying that it should be deleted either coming ...

discussion moderators

wait no THIS is the train.

Gotta stop getting my tickets mixed up.

@Shalvenay What's up? When's your stop? Does it pass through your station?

Magician

There's more discontent with the mods? It must not be spilling into chat like it did before.

Shalvenay

3:09 AM

@Smurfton ah, I think I'm the EIC on a formB on the route

Smurfton

@Magician Not more, I'd just like to actually have it addressed. So that it doesn't just sit there or get discussed only among one party or the other.

I don't have any discontent myself. :)

Magician

I guess I've simply been avoiding questions which raised such issues, so I thought things had settled down around here.

Ah well, carry on. Shows how involved in the community I am.

...is it D&D? I bet it's D&D questions.

Smurfton

lolol

People aren't happy about RAW

Magician

If someone's not happy about RAW, they should cook it some more.

Smurfton

Mxyzplk apparently brings it up every 16 months, and he specifically does not like that attitude when playing.

Considering this happened yesterday, I'd say it's still a thing

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A: A proposal for moving forward with Rules as Written

OK, this is just patently absurd, and I cannot believe that this is what we have come to. I am just going to address the elephant in the room, because I believe that too much of this discussion has suffered for trying not to do so. The moderation team is not competent to perform the policing tha...

Also, if this conversation gets too far beyond railroads, I'd rather talk in Not a Bar.

Magician

3:16 AM

Oh, no, I'm done.

Smurfton

Fine by me. How's life?

Magician

Not too bad. Trying to get back to writing, with very mixed success. But people liked the Atomic Robo skill calculator sheet I made, so that's good.

Smurfton

writing by profession?

Magician

By desired profession, I guess. I'm way behind on my serialized novel.

Smurfton

bookmarked. :)

Magician

3:23 AM

Yay! Let me know what you think if you do get around to reading it.

Smurfton

hopefully an hour or two from now.

I must warn you that I have bothered people on hiatus about once a month for a while before

Magician

I suspect I could use an occasional kick.

Smurfton

3:36 AM

If only I could offer a kick to the writer of Harry Potter and the Natural 20 :(

Smurfton

3:58 AM

Watching the main character work out life hacks for the three unforgivable curses was amazing.

Would still recommend to anyone interested.

fanfiction.net/s/8096183/1/Harry-Potter-and-the-Natural-20

(Undead are immune to death magic, having a readied action to summon one takes care of the killing curse. Pain in D&D is fluff, so that's Crucis done. The mind control one requires everyone and their dog to have items of continuous protection from evil but eventually, you can fix that problem.)

nitsua60

4:34 AM

@JoshuaAslanSmith Is this an official variant/archetype that I've missed, or something you found/whipped up?

@Smurfton it's an... imposing train to hop on, methinks

Miniman

@nitsua60 It was an example used in the Unearthed Arcana article on modifying classes.

nitsua60

@Miniman ahh, deep in UA4: Class Design Variants. Thanks.

Smurfton

@nitsua60 don't you want a vacation though? I heard the elemental plane of fire is quite pleasant this time of year.

Miniman

Link in case anyone else is interested and doesn't know where to look.

nitsua60

@Smurfton I'm more of a Mordenkainen's Magnificent Mansion type, if I need to hit a different plane =D

Smurfton

4:47 AM

@nitsua60 Do you get to specify one of the spots that doesn't deal ambient fire damage?

nitsua60

I think it can just be attached to, not in the plane of fire

Adeptus

@nitsua60 I hate it when you have to change planes to get to your vacation destination :P

lol

hey there @nitsua60

heya @Shalvenay

4:49 AM

how're things going?

nitsua60

just stopped in to see if there'd been discussion around when @Smurfton's meta Q dropped, actually

[crickets chirp]

Smurfton

There was a little bit about the Meta SE question in Not a Bar, but that's it.

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 ah. there's been a bit of NAB discussion. sidenote: how long does ship-specification in Traveller take? if it's a fairly quick process to intro, maybe we can do that now?

nitsua60

@Shalvenay I don't have any handount pre-made for that booklet; it'd be hard to do without you having the source material in hand, I think. Also, I'm bound for bed in ten minutes or so.

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 gotcha. also, mind if I point you at a wb.se question? :)

(think of it as something to ponder while on vacation)

nitsua60

4:56 AM

sure

Shalvenay

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Q: What examinations would a sentient non-human visitor receive if they came to Earth?

So, a visitor (whether they be from another planet or another reality) gets deposited on the face of the Earth. They find that the air's breathable, that water and suitable macronutrients are available, and that there are signs of sentient presence (us!) on this planet. However, between: Thei...

science-based biology humans alternate-reality

@nitsua60 -- got it?

nitsua60

yup--reading now

Smurfton

Nice q. I have no ideas though. :(.

nitsua60

5:11 AM

ditto

night, all

Smurfton

Night

BESW

@Smurfton Okay, back in PC gen mode. Can you elaborate on this idea of "develop" vs "discover"? What are those concepts modifying?

Developing/discovering... Plot? Setting? Characterisation?

Smurfton

Just a second

Ok.

The idea in my head is that either, your character is looking through old texts for these runes, or combinations which do something

Or that your character is using what is already known to create new combinations of runes which do something

It's sort of like the difference between D&D's stereotypical Sorcerer attitude and stereotypical Wizard attitude.

One studies, the other does

Except unlike Sorc versus Wiz, one of them isn't unambiguously worse.

BESW

I think... I think my character understands words on a metaphysical level that lets him manipulate them.

Some concepts I've got loosely in mind:
- Graffiti on the wall peels loose and, flaking off bits of paint as it goes, wraps itself around the soldier's neck.
- The goblin's insult sticks in his throat and he chokes.
- After sketching runes around the lock with a grease pencil, the runekeeper speaks gently to them, and the door opens.

So, it's less that he knows Words of Power, than that he knows Words are Power.

Smurfton

5:26 AM

ok.

Magician

@BESW My first instinct when seeing the idea of a Words element was wordplay. Which is dangerously close to puns.

BESW

His own words, or someone else's, spoken or written.

Smurfton

Would the door respond, or just open?

BESW

@Smurfton Hmm, I'm not sure.

Smurfton

if yes, would the words on the door respond, or the door itself?

wax eagle

5:28 AM

@Magician Rapiers of wit are my favorite!

BESW

@Magician ...he is NOT a Monkey Island pirate.

Smurfton

amazing

Adeptus

@BESW How appropriate! You fight like a cow!

Smurfton

i luv u guis

BESW

@Smurfton [ponders] If Words are Power, that's because they're the synthesis of Thought and Reality. They're Ideas given Substance.

Magician

5:29 AM

A sophistry-based character would be amazing.

Smurfton

Ok. Why would the goblin's words choke him, assuming the thought was unrelated?

Is it because of the symbolism of them passing through his throat (which they do not literally do)

BESW

@Magician Is Gish Gallop a finishing move?

Smurfton

Or is their power limited to the thoughts and reality behind them?

Magician

I didn't mean Monkey Island duels, though. Just like sympathetic magic works on symbolic similarities, wordplay magic would work on linguistic similarities.

BESW

Hmm. In that context, the goblin chokes on his words because the Runekeeper is making him eat them.

Magician

5:32 AM

To break open a lock, you take a lock of hair and cut it.

BESW

@Magician ....okay, this is a character I could play.

I can't do puns or insults on command, but sympathetic wordplay is my thing.

Smurfton

To make the goblin eat his words, would you need to will it to be so, or have just shown him up in some other way?

Magician

So this replaces the narrative requirements of having an element present in the scene with a creative requirement of finding the element in the scene.

BESW

@Magician For Fate in many ways that's the same thing.

Smurfton

Not really. You still have to come up with the sympathetic wordplay, where before you were just saying that you do the thing

BESW

5:36 AM

Using Create Advantage to deliver Blistering insults is mechanically identical to pulling a Lock of hair off your head.

Magician

@BESW Sort of! But whereas a pyromancer would carry torches around so she could set things on fire to really get going, a wordsmith (hah) doesn't have a ready-made starting point.

Smurfton

Yes he does.

BESW

Ah, I see where you're coming from.

Smurfton

D&D Wizards have a spell component pouch. I imagine BESW's character could have a similar pocket full of random odds and ends, which can always be assumed to have not-rare things in it.

BESW

A metalbender can use Create Advantage or spend a Fate point to "find" metal in a scene that didn't have it explicitly, but often the scene will have metal already.

Magician

5:39 AM

@Smurfton Oh, sure. But the player needs to have thought of "lock of hair" - "lock and key" wordplay first.

Smurfton

yes, that's a given.

BESW

A wordsmith will always have to find the wordplay in the scene, because scenes don't ever start with wordplay in them.

Adeptus

I've just had a mental image of a magical rap battle

BESW

@Adeptus Really good flow creates push effects?

Adeptus

(which also reminds me of the Spellsinger series of novels)

Smurfton

5:41 AM

Speaking of, I imagine that you are not the only wordsmith in existence.

Magician

@BESW Exactly. A pyromancer can use mechanics and trivial narrative justification to set things on fire, and then behold: fire. A wordsmith needs to come up with actual wordplay, otherwise there's no point to playing that character. Clever wordplay is not a cool aspect.

Smurfton

How would you handle the presence of another? How would they handle you by default?

BESW

@Magician Lever wordplay, however, would be useful for opening a locked trunk.

Magician

.....too meta

Smurfton

true.

BESW

5:43 AM

[amuses self nonetheless]

Smurfton

@BESW Why is the soldier choked in our scenario? I don't see anything obvious.

BESW

Well, those were just simple visual ideas without any solid notions behind them.

Smurfton

right. I'm challenging you to choke this soldier.

BESW

@Smurfton Wordsmiths are probably pretty respectful of each other, and don't need to say much to communicate complex ideas.

Smurfton

Or at least put him out of commission somehow. If you can't, then this isn't the right idea.

BESW

5:46 AM

Well, what does the soldier say?

Smurfton

nothing.

BESW

Aw, that's no fun. But okay.

Smurfton

you can say stuff, and there's graffiti on a nearby wall.

Well, maybe he hasn't seen you or something.

BESW

So, we're sticking to the "wordplay" concept, or are we backing out into general territory again?

Magician

@Smurfton Is this a regular soldier? A rank and file soldier, perhaps? Snap a metal file, see how he likes it.

Smurfton

5:48 AM

I'm challenging you to put him out of commission, as a test that you can come up with your wordplay off the cuff

BESW

I pull a small, tight-fitting necklace out of my pocket and throw it at him.

Smurfton

is it a choker

BESW

It is.

Smurfton

excellent

File was a good idea too.

BESW

He stumbles toward me, swinging his sword wildly with one hand while prying at the choker with the other.

Smurfton

5:49 AM

Would a wordsmith need to say anything? Presumably there were no actual words engraved in the choker.

BESW

...Hmm.

...that'd actually be hilarious.

Smurfton

words on the choker?

BESW

No, a silent wordsmith.

Not the idea I want to go with, but funny nonetheless.

Smurfton

Maybe he can lose his voice for a while

Magician

...just hand an opponent a duck and glare at them, challenging them to figure out why they're screwed.

BESW

5:53 AM

Ask him a question he doesn't know the answer to, and run away while he's in the dark.

Adeptus

Reminds me of this old riddle

Smurfton

Okay, you've heard of a series of catacombs containing a cool object. how do you get in?

it can be cold if you need it to be.

BESW

I think I'd head for a very swanky nightclub that hardly anyone knows about.

Smurfton

I'm missing it

BESW

That'll get me underground.

Smurfton

5:57 AM

what would that look like? what about your party (assuming you have one)?

I know what hipsters are, BESW.

Adeptus

@Smurfton Yeah, they're a type of underwear

BESW

We'd focus on enjoying the music and dancing like nobody's watching, until the club is gone and we're in the catacombs.

Smurfton

Ok. How would you navigate? catacombs are pretty easy to get lost in.

BESW

Oh, that's easy!

I just take the right turn every time.

Magician

@BESW !!!

Smurfton

6:00 AM

You don't have an exit. How do you get out?

As in, you basically teleported down here from a nightclub. You don't know of an exit.

BESW

Bah, ask me a hard one.

If we find the treasure, we're rich, right? So we'll be on Easy Street.

Smurfton

nice.

BESW

@Magician [bow and a flourish]

Smurfton

Got any scenarios, magician?

obviously everything has to be above ground now.

Otherwise BESW can words his way in and out pretty easily

BESW

Well, I'm gonna head out for a while, actually.

Smurfton

6:05 AM

:( was fun.

BESW

I like this idea, but for the current character I think I'm gonna go for a little less... abstract... concept.

More like wordkinesis.

Smurfton

still wordplay, but less abstract, or no wordplay?

Magician

@BESW Offensive Language.

BESW

6:35 AM

Hmm. So many possibilities.

I'm gonna take a break from this character and let it percolate for a while.

(I'm now imagining him as Ghostwriter.)

Me: How you doing, Grady? Cat: *slides across hardwood, smacks into a wall* Me: Yeah, I feel you.

Tweeted by Nash076 on February 5, 2016 at 6:30 AM

BESW

9:26 AM

Green Eggs and Hamlet.

BESW

10:00 AM

Emily Dickinson, Paranormal Investigator.

BESW

10:30 AM

So, something cool I've noticed my group doing more over the last couple sessions: Spending a fate point to temporarily have access to a stunt that makes sense for their character but isn't something they'd need very often.

trogdor

10:47 AM

that has been a pretty neat use of a fate point

Polyducks

11:12 AM

@Smurfton Friend Computer can't wait around to discuss Alpha Complex materials. I think Paranoia is off our play list for a while after last night's game. Everyone got so salty!

Listening to "I have no mouth, and I must scream." to sate my Paranoia want.

Derpy

12:14 PM

(question: did anyone time ago linked a "ancient parchment" generator here? Or I am remembering wrong?)

BESW

12:25 PM

The Umdaarian PC (upgraded for ARRPG-balanced numbers) I'll be playing tomorrow: Aquila, Flashy Hippogriff Battlemage.

@Derpy I've probably linked Fantastic Maps tutorials which touched on the subject.

Derpy

12:44 PM

@BESW actually, I think I may be mixing up that with this one.

424

Q: How do I make my document look like it was written by a Cthulhu-worshipping madman?

I want to type up some spells from the RPG Call of Cthulhu and give them to my players. I could just type them up in Word or LaTeX, but that seems too...neat. I'd like to make these things look like they were scrawled by a gibbering madman, unhinged by the horrors he has witnessed. Bonus points i...

fonts typography fun

Do not ask how I found that question in the first place.

Polyducks

1:50 PM

Were you perhaps searching for Mad Max and stumbled across it as a recommended search?

Derpy

@Polyducks You really want to know?

eimyr

yo

Derpy

@Polyducks I was going to print an obscure piece of SharePoint documentation to hang it on the wall at my office. We then decided that the information contained in that lost piece of forgotten text was worth something more poster-like

Polyducks

Ayy @eimyr

eimyr

Hey, man

I actually had an IRL question for you

Polyducks

2:02 PM

@Derpy Nice. I'm thinking of printing something cray for you.

@derpy like, in honour of you

or rather, your idea.

My brain is pretty scrambled right now

eimyr

@Derpy @Polyducks it will be a shrine....

Polyducks

@eimyr oh yeah?

@eimyr something exciting aye?

eimyr

@Polyducks yeah. As a dev, how does the IP clauses look like in a standard employment contract in the UK?

Polyducks

Let's talk in not-a-bar

I'll send you a link

Not a bar, but plays one on TV

I'm not a place to unwind after work, but I play one on TV.

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Joshua Aslan Smith

2:54 PM

@waxeagle thank you for running as always sorry I was cat-stracted

I definitely like the manuevers

I feel I have more options and more impact (used up 3 of 5 of my pool until we rest)

wax eagle

@JoshuaAslanSmith No problem at all, I had 3yr old problems :)

Joshua Aslan Smith

so you said LEVEL 9 now!

or after the next section

wax eagle

yes, L9 now!

I think I'd like to write more of these one shot interludes to kind of flesh out the characters more. For last night's session, I took one of the POTA side quests and rewrote it to fit my goals for the adventure, bouncing some things off of Gruber for him to sort of fill in details about his character and background.

Joshua Aslan Smith

wax eagle

those look like moon pies :P

Joshua Aslan Smith

3:06 PM

similar, just sort of this funny thing the wife and I buy when we are at the korean grocery store

its engrishy catch phrase of "it's now!" on the box is what first attracted us

sharing it because your statement made me think of it

wax eagle

gotcha :)

(and I instantly go to moon pies because they are a chattanooga thing :))

Joshua Aslan Smith

the big commercially produced local confection would be peanut chews, drive past the factory on my way out of the city to my job

wax eagle

fun :)

Polyducks

It's NOW!

That must smell great, @JoshuaAslanSmith. We have a jam factory opposite work. This morning they were making strawberry jam

It's a nice thing to wake to

Joshua Aslan Smith

3:22 PM

yeah I catch a nice whiff of roasting peanuts eveyr now and then

theres also an oil refinery near there so sometimes the scents can mix, petroleum peanuts, yum yum

eimyr

@JoshuaAslanSmith Gasoline roasted peanut gumbo, the MadMaxest snack for all your half-life needs! Witness the flavour, taste the Valhalla.

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Polyducks

"Witness" the flavour

eimyr

Mediocre!

Polyducks

Remind me to make a chat software one day where other users can reward you XP

Joshua Aslan Smith

@Polyducks oh my gosh yes

Polyducks

3:35 PM

That would be fun, I think.

Joshua Aslan Smith

@Polyducks @eimyr new "Historic Fury Road" flavor

the mediocre reaction gif and the witness me gifs are some of the bes thtings to ever happen

Polyducks

I sat through a really basic DIY chat software tutorial once

Joshua Aslan Smith

the fil itself is impeccable, true cinema leaning on all the strengths of the medium

Polyducks

I did a miiverse reaction image once with 'mediocre' drawn true to screen

I wonder if I can dig it up

@JoshuaAslanSmith The film was, by all usual measures, awful. A road trip movie with terrible props and story... but it was amazing despite this.

Truly a cinematic marvel, but objectively it shouldn't have been. God damn it I want to watch it now.

Derpy

@Polyducks you could go out on a bounty give-away spree

eimyr

3:47 PM

@Polyducks TRAITOR! spin, spin, spin

Joshua Aslan Smith

@Polyducks the terrible props?

The story is threadbare and I will wholly agree ot that

its basically George Miller's modern take on the great train robbery

I thought the costuming, set design, and car work they did came out very, very well.

eimyr

The devil sits in details. The movie is rich in flavour, visuals and acting complement each other, it has more than one well thought-out character and yes, the story is simple and the execution is over the top, but it's all for a purpose

Joshua Aslan Smith

I really hope the Black and white high contrast version miller has talked about (also possibly silent except for the score) comes out this year as miller hinted it might

eimyr

You know what happens when you try to add too much story at a cost of more superficial design? Pacific Rim.

Joshua Aslan Smith

easily my film of the year for 2015

I think that you couldve had more story in fury road, more character development but it wouldve meant a longer run time and a less pure experience

Polyducks

3:55 PM

@JoshuaAslanSmith I watched it on a HD screen. If you look at the boss' mask, it's very crudely made, like it was made with pastels and finger paints.

@Joshua It looks better if you don't look too closely. I suppose the same is true with any film though

I think everything in Fury Road was excellent

because it's a sum of its parts. Individually, the parts are awful. The sum is just something amazing.

There is a better way of saying it without sounding like a pseudo-smart douche, but I'm too tired to think. TL;DR Fury road good +10 to subject originator

Joshua Aslan Smith

This actual metal prop which was able to open and close and did so in the film?

Polyducks

Yeah, that's the one. And the party shop make-up.

Joshua Aslan Smith

Did you see it in theaters?

Polyducks

I think that was intentional

No, I saw it in HD on a HD screen up close

Joshua Aslan Smith

2 things

eimyr

3:59 PM

I find it very good, actually.

Joshua Aslan Smith

the body paint is just white body paint smeared on ala the joker

2

HD tv screen doesnt actually communicate anything to me Ive seen great films look terrible on hd screens where the setting were all wrong for movies but optimized for sports tv and videogaming

eimyr

For the movie of this sort, the props can't be shiny and chrome, there is a level of crudeness to the entire universe. I know this its Thermian, but I'm quite sure they weren't going for complete professionality in all the carpentry etc.

Polyducks

Guys, I like it. I understand why it's good. I'm not arguing with you

Joshua Aslan Smith

we disagree with your quibbles

eimyr

How can you like it when it is so good?

2

Polyducks

4:03 PM

>:C

eimyr

Unfortunately my GF hates this movie.

The milk harvest scene grossed her out so much she couldn't bear the rest.

I could watch it all day every day.

Joshua Aslan Smith

my wife was kinda meh on it because of the lack of character development, especially since a certain character dies at the end who was the only one having character development

I liked it a lot though and felt it serverd as sort of an extended introduction to new max as he transitions from completely hardened survival at all costs mode to regaining his sense of self and purpose

Derpy

@JoshuaAslanSmith Are we talking FF7? A, no wait, that was supposed to happen later and then moved to disc 1...

Joshua Aslan Smith

@max max fury road, psh BEGONE WITH YOUR JRPGS

casts turn undead

eimyr

@JoshuaAslanSmith Wait, what? There is a character with development?

SevenSidedDie

7:04 PM

@eimyr A warboy. To be fair, his choice at the end was a dramatic affirmation of his growth, a kind of apotheosis. The audience is supposed to have mixed feelings about that, as it's both triumphal and a shocking loss. That shades of grey there is an essential theme of the world too.

@JoshuaAslanSmith My wife loved it and counts it one of her favourite movies, and she's an art film nerd. She also really likes explosions. It takes all kinds. :)

Zachiel

7:22 PM

@doppelgreener I found that the irfanview's thumbnail program has some export options. I only used it as a folder browser...

Joshua Aslan Smith

8:00 PM

@SevenSidedDie I thought it had enough and especially like I said the subtle changes in max's behavior and physicality throughout the film but I can also see her point. She did think it was stunning visually but that wasnt enough for her.

BESW

8:30 PM

One of the things I really appreciate in Mad Max is that every character on screen feels like he or she could have been the main character in an equally- or more-interesting film.

That's a richness of worldbuilding you don't often see.

trogdor

9:02 PM

@JoshuaAslanSmith how darest thou, good sir XD

@BESW I wouldn't say every character, I would say every character who had enough screen time

there were still extras who had absolutely no purpose except to establish something

BESW

Mmm. But even then, the overall impression was that it was only because they didn't have enough time to show their story.

trogdor

every person who actually had a name, yeah they could probably have had their own show

yeah but still

most of them were on screen for like, 10 seconds maximum

that is definitely not enough time to make me feel like they deserved their own show XD

but I still agree that every named character could have had their own movie

eimyr

9:23 PM

Hello

BESW

Yawp.

eimyr

BTW, did you know that after Mad Max Fury Road premiere sales of silver metallic food spray skyrocketed?

BESW

Yup.

eimyr

I never bought any, but I've heard the stuff is nasty.

And it takes forever to brush it off your teeth.

BESW

Makes sense.

I feel like these aspects are a little lackluster.

eimyr

9:44 PM

How about we make her an A-10 Warthog?

I would suggest something like a Fly-by attack or Ground Support aspects

Though admittedly she is more flashy than forceful

BESW

Those would be more like stunts, anyway.

Not a bar, but plays one on TV

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