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4:00 PM
@ProfessorLokiCaprion My mother (composition professor at the local U) is getting a small reputation as a Doctor Who fan, for recognizing a student's wallpaper as Eleven's TARDIS interior, and for saying "wibbly-wobbly" once.
 
@BESW I'm a massive Whovian! We had a big party at my place, last week, for the 50th. My wife made a TARDIS cake, we had Dalek cupcakes and Weeping Angel cookies... fish fingers and custard (which is gross).
 
Awesome.
I have more luck getting Who conversations going here than in the SF&F chat, so you should feel right at home.
 
Haha! Well, it's all in the same circles, it seems. Typically, fandoms stick together, even if they're opposed.
 
(Most of the Whovians over there are exclusively New Who, and while there's nothing wrong with that, sometimes I just need to talk about the Cartmel Masterplan and why the Metacrisis Doctor should be the Valeyard.)
 
@ProfessorLokiCaprion I had a plan to do that for Carnival. But then I never asked my aunt to tailor me a jacket for it.
 
4:03 PM
@BESW The Valeyard, yes!! I was actually hoping that would materialize when the Metacrisis Doctor appeared!
 
It would make sense, and the timing fits.
 
@Zachiel I was lucky to find the jacket at a thrift shop, then made my own silver cross cufflinks and constructed the cross out of the green floral blocks that fake flowers are shoved into, sometimes.
 
And then I was not his age anymore (I wanted to be his same age for added fidelty - or to make up for me not being that fit)
 
What IS his actual age?
I was him when I was about 23 or 24, and I was skinny and had hair back then.
 
I think it was 23 but I might be mistaken
 
4:13 PM
Hm. I think the only full-on cosplay I ever did was as the male lead of the highly obscure webcomic Fallen. I knew the author.
Grew my hair out for about a year and a half, and dyed it deep blue for the part.
 
Now that's dedication!
 
I didn't get tattooed or pierced though--henna and clip-ons sufficed.
 
I'm friends with a cosplay fanatic; she was Black Cat at the last Otakon that came through, and now she's always doing photoshoots and such. In fact, she's the former Exalted player in my Torg game I was talking about!
@BESW Well, I should hope so!
 
Discovered I like having long hair (though between the upkeep and the heat it's too miserable now that I'm back home), and that when blue dye wears out of light brown hair, it turns sea green for a couple months.
@ProfessorLokiCaprion Shiny.
There's not a lot of opportunity for cosplay here.
 
@BESW She was certainly... shiny. She pulled off Black Cat well, let's just say.
 
4:19 PM
There's a small and viciously fanatic anime community, but as I'm not actually into anime...
 
I'm not as much into anime as I used to be, but that's not to say I'm anti-anime. Just mostly involved in other things. I've always been a bit of a nerd of all trades, never getting hugely into any one thing.
Sadly, that resulted in a lot of "true fans" looking down their noses at me, while "mundane folks" still thought I was weird.
 
Other facets of geek culture haven't really taken root much at all; our Friendly Local Gaming Store is owned by a man in his 80s who runs it at a loss so he has "something to get out of bed for in the morning," and is mostly funded by middle-schoolers playing Magic.
 
Oh, that's sweet!
And I still do play Magic, though I hardly spend the bank on it.
 
Most of the RPG crowd we see are transients from the military or contract workers.
 
I'm pretty fortunate to live in an area with a pretty large and active gaming community.
Naturally, as with any larger community, that means a larger percentage of jerks, but you have to take the bad with the good
 
4:30 PM
Indeed.
I wanted to try RPGs in high school but couldn't find anyone who played that I wanted to play with.
Luckily in college a couple of friends strong-armed me into GMing for them.
 
I managed to get a good bit of my Drama Club into my Torg game! I ended up with about 15 players, but they never showed up at the same time so I usually ran for about 5-6 per session.
 
How does it feel seeing some art that would be awesome for a character you want to play, but you can't? I tell you, it feels bad.
 
Drama students/actors are enthusiastic, and great when they show up, but they vanish for weeks and months at a time.
 
@Zachiel Why can't you?
@BESW They're notoriously flaky. I feel like I was the only dependable actor-type I knew.
 
@ProfessorLokiCaprion It's understandable; rehearsal and performance schedules are demanding and unpredictable.
Last year my group fluctuated from 12 players to one.
 
4:34 PM
My Scion game fell apart after two of the players broke up. That was nerve-wracking.
 
Oh, ick.
I've generally been lucky and had good groups that got along reasonably well.
 
Even worse... when I was trying to start a NEW game with the people I could tolerate... the female of the couple wasn't allowed to play with us, because her new boyfriend didn't want her associating with people who were friends with her old boyfriend.
 
One couple refused to play characters that had any connection with each other beyond what was necessary for being in the same party, because they knew that would be a recipe for drama.
@ProfessorLokiCaprion [face/palm]
 
@BESW Verily.
 
@ProfessorLokiCaprion Long story short, last February (more or less) I was accused of metaplaying and bleed and asked to play in a different zone of the world, with another character (It's sort of a mmorpg with D&D 3.5 characters). I still have to find which character I want to play now.
 
4:37 PM
I'm reminded of my college roommates who wouldn't let their girlfriends play Halo with them.
 
@Zachiel Oh, that's a shame! :( What do you mean "bleed?"
@BESW Haha... if I told my wife she couldn't play a game, I'd be castrated.
 
(Whenever one of my female friends came over, I'd be sure to play Halo with her, and the girlfriends would smack my roommates and point.)
 
Bleed is when you feel the emotions of the character to the point it hurts.
 
Also, as for character art for characters you can't play, I'm lucky in that I run a game where pretty much any kind of character can be made, so I can make characters based on pictures I find!
Like this one: 1.bp.blogspot.com/-KNrofuUeZfY/Td0xNZR6cSI/AAAAAAAAAn8/… My players are meeting her, tomorrow!
@Zachiel I used to be that way, actually! I had to learn to detach myself a bit, but not so much that I do careless actions that no character would realistically do.
 
I had this session where I had just used scry to deliver a message spell to a merchant girl. I also had the bad idea of writing the actual message at late night, which she interpreted as receiving it at nighttime. She described me what I had seen and I really liked the scene. Next dai I discovered she actually roleplayed running down to her guildmaster's room scared, telling everything that happened, and I was in the middle of a diplomatic accident for unwarned scrying.
 
4:41 PM
@Zachiel Oh, dear...
 
So next day I meet the young merchant for I had to buy a shield and she asks me "wow, I didn't know you could talk to me at a distance, what spell is it?" which quickly become "you used message, isn't it?" and "and this means you used scry, right?"
because her guildmaster is a knowledgeable wizard
so this level 2 wizard put me (a lvl 13 character) in a spot I couldn't come out with no losses
 
@Zachiel So is this game running 24-hours, somehow, or am I misinterpreting something?
 
I stood at the screen and after something like 20 minutes of silence I wrote "I don't know what to do. I lost this game."
 
@ProfessorLokiCaprion Zachiel's been part of a long-running play-by-post game which is notorious in this chat.
 
AH! Okay, I understand, now.
"Notorious"?
 
4:44 PM
Oh it runs whenever at least 2 people are there to play. So yes, me being away from the game for 1 year means other people is probably 6 levels ahead of me. Or since the guild leader plays a lot, she's easily level 30 now
 
@ProfessorLokiCaprion Let's just say that I hadn't heard this particular story before, but am totally unsurprised by it.
 
@ProfessorLokiCaprion I'm not allowed to ask suggestions on how to fix things there anymore
@BESW how is it? This episode is the whole core of the problem...
 
Mmm! I'll keep these things in mind.
 
So my character just started telling the lvl2 merchant it's possible to scry without looking at the target, but couldn't tell she actually did it that way, because she feared of being accused of being a liar.
Meanwhile, her guild leader told my guild leader that she was really disappointed by me
In the game I was the provision buyer for my guild so I had to keep contact with the merchant guild, which was odd. I knew they didn't like how I was playing, yet when I tried to leave my guild my leader offered me to stay (it was an evil secret society so I knew their secrets)
 
Sounds like there's a lot of elements in play, here; IC and OOC.
 
4:52 PM
And now, the worst part of it. My dream was to work in the merchant guild exactly because their leader is a sly fox managing to get things done the right way, never letting her pupils undefended and generally being cool and a great roleplayer. But she hates me in real life because of my inability to understand how much she was willing to help me with becoming better at that game ("I gave you a finger and you bite the ass"). So I want, badly, to play with her but I'm barred from doing that ever.
 
@ProfessorLokiCaprion Also the fact that this is only lightly moderated by multiple GMs who can be persuaded to condone or even encourage significantly imbalancing behavior and scenarios if it's presented eloquently and appeals to their sense of narrative.
 
Fact is, they don't care about balance. They told me not to play an optimized character, because Stormind Fallacy.
 
And just as it's getting complicated... I have to start packing up to leave the office!
 
The thing that makes me rage is how they manage to have fun with weak characters, while I can't.
End of the story.
 
@ProfessorLokiCaprion ttfn
 
4:55 PM
I will be seeing you all again, soon, I'm sure!
/me tests to see if this works...
Nope. Worth a shot, though.
 
How do you save converastions, again?
 
[bookmark a conversation] button on the transcript.
 
>_> stupid needing to go to the transcript.
 
5:24 PM
Uuuuuh bundle of holding has some interesting manuals: bundleofholding.com/index/current
 
6:04 PM
@edgerunner I want to star "reality fondling," but it's not in chat.
 
6:51 PM
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(I don't mean to be an advertisement feed; I just keep seeing things which are cool.)
 
8:05 PM
@Lord_Gareth rightly so!
 
 
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10:46 PM
Hey, neat, I can still see me saying goodbye from this morning!
 
Yeah, some days can be slower then others.
If you want something to fill the screen, ask a Classic DW lore question, that'll go on for hours. :P
 
Let's talk Valeyard!
 
The Valeyard? The worst ever plot point of DW or it's saving grace?
There that should polarize everyone.
 
I honestly haven't SEEN any Valeyard, only read about him. I need to go back and watch every minute of Doctor Who I can.
@RedRiderX Why would he get ARRESTED?
 
@ProfessorLokiCaprion I haven't seen him either.
@ProfessorLokiCaprion For Tossing $1,000 into Mall of America Rotunda, apparently.
Think of the mob fight that would have ensued.
I might pay a $1000 to see that.
 
Yeah, it says "Disorderly Conduct". Hrm.
 
Well, $100
 
This man is guilty of GENEROSITY!
 
Before I click it, they'd better be playing the Captain Kirk fight music behind the video...
 
@ProfessorLokiCaprion Don't worry, no punches are pulled.
They go rolling across the floor zapping each other.
It's amazing.
 
What is WRONG with people?
 
Black Friday
Every crazy cheap person comes out of the woodwork.
It's like a mini-apocalypse simulation every year.
Honestly, social scientists should be using Black Friday as a test bed for experiments in crowd control and mob rule.
It's a huge missed opportunity.
 
It's a bit depressing, though.
 
11:13 PM
@ProfessorLokiCaprion Well so is the apocalypse.
@ProfessorLokiCaprion Well the Valeyard was brought up in The Name of the Doctor so it seems like it will be addressed eventually.
 
I'm partially hoping Capaldi will be the Valeyard.
 
Hmm.
There's always the chance, but I doubt it.
They do say he will be the Doctor.
 
True... but technically, the Valeyard was the Doctor.
Just like... Hurt was the Doctor, but people argue he WASN'T, because they want to keep the numbers the same.
 
@ProfessorLokiCaprion Well he seems to be called the War-Doctor now.
 
I'd still say he counts as 9!
 
11:27 PM
@ProfessorLokiCaprion Hmm.
 
@RedRiderX Hmm?
 
I guess he does, but trying to keep straight whether you mean Eccleston or Hurt when you say the 9th Doctor seems like more trouble then it's worth.
 
Well, I try to use actor name instead of number, anyway.
 
Sure.
 
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