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Q: Are Omnibus answers problematic?

Tritium21I have noticed, in my time on all the Stacks, but RPG.SE especially, a tendency for some users to collect all the answers already given for a question, and post them as one big omnibus answer. These answers usually don't add much, if anything, new. They usually just collect the wisdom, or bad i...

 
12:36 AM
@Heda [wave] If you can find a question or two you can reasonably answer, you'll pass the 20+ rep requirement for chat pretty easily.
 
1:15 AM
I just had a horrifying realisation. I don't have a gold badge lined up for hatmas this year!
 
lol
neither do I
course, I never bothered to try for any gold medal except fanatic, and briefly one involving voting enough times on stuff
still, it would have been great to have one lined up and then delay it till I could get a hat
but a lot of gold badges require a lot of input from other people :/
 
@Miniman actually, I don't believe I do either
 
I am sure I can manage other hats
 
1:43 AM
There will be hats aplenty, of course.
Just that I've gotten the gold badge hat 2 years in a row, so I'm a little sad about missing it this year.
 
1:57 AM
well, last time you got like, the most hats on this whole SE
I am having trouble feeling sorry for you on a hat based matter
XD
 
@trogdor Srsly, it's not even winter where @Miniman lives. Why does he need to hog all the hats?
=D
 
well, it's not winter here either
but we still like hats
 
@trogdor but you don't hoard them =)
 
lol
@nitsua60 well fair enough, but he isn't taking them from other people, he is just serving as a shining example to the rest of us of how many hats we will never have because we don't work hard enough :P
 
@Miniman OTOH, you've just prompted me to check and see I"m only 76 edits away from copy editor. Maybe I'll snag that gold one this year =)
 
2:11 AM
@trogdor I'm pretty sure SSD beat me in the end :P
 
@Miniman There's no shame in that. 'e's got more vertices upon which to perch hats.
 
@nitsua60 Hmmm...36 rep caps till Legendary. So all I have to do is cap every day from now until the end of hatmas - easy pickings!
 
@Miniman oh, dear. I haven't thought about Legendary in forever. I stared at that progress bar for Epic for, like, four months.
Throw 140 flags and grab Marshal...
 
@Miniman he may have, I base it off of relatively early memory, so it's obviously fallible
 
Also, don't gain any rep, 'cause I'm nervously watching you in my rear-view vis-a-vis the yearly rep league. 800 is not much of a lead to have on you =)
 
2:18 AM
@trogdor I mean, it's pretty impressive that you remember in the first place!
 
(At this rate, only 37 years until I pass miniman in all-time rep!)
 
2:37 AM
@nitsua60 fyi affect was not a typo here, it is a normal verb form for "have an effect". (As opposed to the verb form of "effect", which more or less means "bring about, enact".)
 
Total rep isn't worth worrying about - you're wrecking me on quality quotient.
 
@doppelgreener jeezy-creezy, are you kidding. I'm pretty good with effect (n.), effect (v.), and affect (n.), but there's an affect (v.) hanging around out there!? That's it, I'm switching to Esperanto, a Dvorak keyboard, and only programming in Lojban.
[ragequits all widely-used communication protocols]
 
Once @miniman retires from D&D to other, less confusing games which have not many questions, @nitsua60 will have the D&D 6e playing field open to surpass him in rep.
 
I suspect nitsua will make that change first anyway.
 
@nitsua60 the only noun "affect" I can find is the psychology sense, is that the one?
I think of affect being the action form of effect.
 
2:43 AM
Also, the verb "effect" is pretty obscure.
 
It is.
 
@doppelgreener jes. (That's Esperanto for "yes")
 
Mostly used in policy making.
 
wow! Google translate havas Esperanton en sia datumbazo
[wow! Google translate has Esperanto in its database]
 
@Miniman well, its reading, my memory is better for things I have read
it just turns out to work like that
 
2:46 AM
@nitsua60 At one point they had Chicken, so that shouldn't be that surprising.
 
kio estas Kokido?
[what is Chicken?]
 
@nitsua60 uzi kodo morse dum vi estas en ĝi
 
@doppelgreener yeah, I was flashing back to that, too =)
 
@trogdor As is mine, but I remember the scoreboard a year later because I was checking it obsessively emotionally invested in it interested, so I'm surprised other people remember.
 
well I was reading it to check my own status rather often enough
 
2:50 AM
@Miniman oh, other people are unreasonably competitive irrationally jealous interested, too =)
 
I was interested in the information, and so because I was interested and reading it, it stuck in my head
 
@nitsua60 Yeah, don't think I'm not keeping track of you keeping track of the rep leaderboards :P
 
@Miniman I'm not sure 0.06% separation is room-enough for the two of us =)
 
personally, I was surprised when I learned that not everyone reads enough, or is interested enough in reading, to remember things they have read anywhere past rather short term timelines
 
sad confessions: I didn't have to look up that number... =|
 
2:52 AM
like in my history class, or when even my father asked me how the hell I remembered specific details from a book I had read a month earlier
 
It's possible that other people, by not remembering details from books and games from multiple years ago, use their available memory for more important things than us nerds :P
 
@Miniman "more important things" ????????
I don't follow
 
Well, I'm just suggesting it as a possibility.
 
@Miniman that is fair, I think everyone's memories work in slightly different ways, some of us, such as ourselves, just remember things better when we have read them
other people are more inclined, maybe, to remember someones name
I have serious trouble with peoples names when I first meet them
 
@Miniman the notion is something to wrap my head around but it's worth considering theoretically I guess
 
2:56 AM
faces are actually really easy to remember, but names for some reason have a hard time being matched up
 
Like, yanno, if I'd never read LotR, maybe I'd have been able to learn how to not get bored at social functions with people I don't really like.
 
@Miniman I think you literally need a magic spell to accomplish that
 
@trogdor I have that trouble and made an exercise out of it to memorise the name of everybody who services me at shops I visit more than once
 
@Miniman [has mental image of Miniman boring the snot out of people he doesn't like at social functions until they finally wander off, all the while thinking to self 'thank God I read this stuff so I could bore them away!"]
 
@doppelgreener that is a useful exercise to be sure
 
2:58 AM
(not all at once — when they service me I'll ask their name if they're not wearing a badge, so it's just one person at a time)
It's increased my ability to remember names, I think
Not a huge amount but a useful amount
 
@trogdor I think my biggest memory-weakness is sequencing/placing in time. I can remember a conversation or an event but have absolutely no idea whether it happened a week ago, a month ago, a year ago? Without obvious touchstones (like it was a conversation about my infant son, which would time-localize it) I'm just lost. I think my memory-unit doesn't have a timestamp function.
 
@nitsua60 if all else fails, tell them about the gear wars
 
@nitsua60 I have less trouble with time than that, to be sure
course, as a consequence, sometimes when a story I like is missplacing the concept of chronological time too much or too often,.... it annoys me way too much
its the main reason I dropped the Culture Series
 
@trogdor Culture Series?
 
My main problem with memory is recalling faces. I can recognise them perfectly well, but recalling them when I'm not looking at them just doesn't work for me.
 
3:03 AM
the third book decided it was fun to give the main character multiple flashbacks
The Culture series is a science fiction series written by Scottish author Iain M. Banks. The stories center on the Culture, a utopian, post-scarcity space socialist society of humanoids, aliens, and very advanced artificial intelligences living in semi-anarchist habitats spread across the Milky Way galaxy. The main theme of the novels is the dilemmas that an idealistic hyperpower faces in dealing with civilizations that do not share its ideals, and whose behavior it sometimes finds repulsive. In some of the stories, action takes place mainly in non-Culture environments, and the leading characters...
 
hmm....
 
it is a sci fi series of books
I reaaaaaaaally liked the first book
the second was still ok, still good but not as good,.... and the third one triggered particular parts of my unique brain into madness
and none of that involved the book having anything in it that should trigger someone into madness, to be clear
it was probably only me who had the particular reaction
 
I dunno, books that jump around in time can be incredibly confusing just in general.
 
yeah
that is definitely part of it
 
Also, anything by Diana Wynne Jones.
 
3:07 AM
if you ask @BESW, he will mention how I have objected to watching shows out of order with him
at least some times
@Miniman I liked Dark Lord of Dirkholm, but I have not read much else by her
also, fantasy books tend to get some slack from me,... mostly
 
@trogdor They're generally good, but they almost invariably end in a sudden plot twist that's meant to tie everything together, but isn't nearly as easy to understand for the audience as it was for the author.
 
ah
the twist at the end of Derkholm was a little heavy handed, to be sure, not necessarily handled as well as it could have been, but it didn't ruin the book for me
 
Oh, it's not a deal breaker - like I said, they're still good books. Just, they usually leave me feeling confused.
 
I only read that one book
and the twist itself was rather well explained when it happened
in fact, there were literally characters who you could say were only there to explain it,... which in itself might be considered a bit of an issue
 
I read that one a long time ago - I'll have to borrow it from my sister.
 
3:15 AM
yeah, I don't want to just drop that one in here in case someone is planning to read it XD
but, even though it really wasn't some kind of mystery novel or anything, the biggest complaint I would have with the book was similar to a complaint I would have with a bad mystery novel, the ending basically just has things wrap up in a way that Jones herself didn't bother to drop enough actual clues or hints about
so it is not by any means surprising to hear that she might have an issue with that kind of things in her other books
 
well, also extremely low on useful information
it seems a lot more like a statement than an actual question
 

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