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03:30

@tybocopperkettle nice!

finally i can study some C code :p

tybocopperkettle

:P

math scat

10:06

@user *literate mode joins the chat*

Vyxal Bot

11:05

Vyxal version 2.19.3

math scat

11:37

!!/repo-list

!!/status

lyxal

bot gone

math scat

aw man

Now I have to move my mouse ~600px more.

hmm

I cannot find the code for any status impl except boring

@Ginger git pushed?

lyxal

@user how would the shared code know where to get the dictionary from?

[error] -- [E006] Not Found Error: C:...\Vyxal\shared\src\main\scala\Globals.scala:19:35
[error] 19 |    shortDictionary: Seq[String] = Dictionary.shortDict,
[error]    |                                   ^^^^^^^^^^
[error]    |                                   Not found: Dictionary
[error]    |
[error]    | longer explanation available when compiling with `-explain`
[error] -- [E006] Not Found Error: C:...\Vyxal\shared\src\main\scala\Globals.scala:20:34
[error] 20 |    longDictionary: Seq[String] = Dictionary.longDict

that happens by default

relevant branch

Ginger

12:36

why does the bot keep DYING

@mathscat wrong branch

Vyxal Bot

Well, here we are again.

math scat

@Ginger ah, thx

lyxal

!!/status

Vyxal Bot

@lyxal I am developing a new type of weather that is always perfect.

lyxal

new weather!

Try it Online! for 4 bytes — lyxal 26 secs ago

Vyxal is Aɾt

lyxal

13:19

say hypothetically (very hypothetically - code.golf seems to be way too stuck in the past when it comes to allowing SBCS) would utf-8 or sbcs scoring be more fun for golf?

Linked issue because I was thinking some comments on the issue could cause it to be seen and actually implemented

Seggan

15:38

@naffetS Myxal compiles to c++ too :P (cc @tybocopperkettle)

@naffetS its more painful

Ginger

17:28

!!/status

Vyxal Bot

@Ginger I am doing just enough so that you feel guilty about all the things you're not doing.

Ginger

;-;

emanresu A

18:52

@naffetS And the original Jyxal which sucked

tybocopperkettle

19:02

Maybe Cyxal should compile C, it would be quite a bit faster

user

19:18

I feel like an interpreter written in C would be adequately fast

At least for short running programs, where compilation might take longer than actually running the program

I guess it’d be good for long running programs

@lyxal Oh

I will figure that out later (if you haven't figured it out already by that point)

Maybe it was because the native Dictionary.scala was in native/src instead of native/src/main/scala. I've moved it to the right folder now, hopefully that works

It does, whoo

One (unrelated) thing we're going to have to fix is that Scala Native doesn't just embed the dictionaries, it also embeds a whole lot of random stuff that seems to be coming from ScalaTest or something

[info] Embedded resource: /scala-xml.properties
[info] Embedded resource: /html/addl.css
[info] Embedded resource: /html/featureSpec.gif
[info] Embedded resource: /html/flatSpec.gif
[info] Embedded resource: /html/freeSpec.gif
[info] Embedded resource: /html/funSpec.gif
[info] Embedded resource: /html/funSuite.gif
[info] Embedded resource: /html/propSpec.gif
[info] Embedded resource: /html/spec.gif
[info] Embedded resource: /html/wordSpec.gif
[info] Embedded resource: /images/bluedot.gif
[info] Embedded resource: /images/bluedots.psd

Not sure how to get rid of that

Seggan

20:27

@tybocopperkettle Myxal does that

tybocopperkettle

Yeah, it would be harder tho and idk if I'd be able to do it

user

You'd need GC too, right?

tybocopperkettle

What's GC?

user

Garbage collection

tybocopperkettle

Oh

Yeah

user

20:38

But you could probably use an existing conservative GC

tybocopperkettle

I guess, is making your own hard?

user

Making a good one is, yeah

tybocopperkettle

Ah

user

I guess a really simple one wouldn't be that hard since you seem to be at least moderately proficient in C

tybocopperkettle

Hmm, I think that might be a bit of a stretch

user

20:41

Having some sort of Vyxal bytecode and an interpreter specifically for that would probably not help much since Vyxal code is already only a handful of commands and most of program's time is spent inside builtins

So I guess full compiled or full interpreted would be best :|

math scat

@user did I hear Vyxal bytecode?

Seggan

20:55

@user implemented

user

@mathscat Not unless you have a screen reader

You only read it otherwise

math scat

... how did you find out?

This man is becoming too dangerous, someone nuke him.

user

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Seggan

⚛️💣☢️💥

math scat

@user lmao

tybocopperkettle

21:35

@user emanresu and I were discussing Vyxal bytecode too at some point

user

22:27

Ooh, what did you guys come up with?

tybocopperkettle

We only discussed the idea of it existing, we didn't plan anything

user

Oh

emanresu A

22:53

@user I don't think we actually need a GC, since we're not doing anything with multiple references or mutability. When something is popped, it can be freed once used.

user

Oh right, lazy lists can't be recursive because they're immutable

That could change if and when we add classes, though

emanresu A

This is v2 so eh

tybocopperkettle

I don't we're going to have lazy lists in Cyxal

user

:(

tybocopperkettle

Anyone else is welcome to implement them, but I don't think I will be

user

23:05

@Anyoneelse you here?

I don't think they're in this room

tybocopperkettle

Lol

user

I'd like to take a stab at it at some point though (although tbh I haven't finished a single personal project of mine in forever and I've done barely any work on Vyxal v3 in the past couple months and I suck at C so that doesn't mean anything)

lyxal

23:25

@user I do love embedding gifs that we don't even own :p

@user not really. The moment something isn't in a variable or on the stack, it's never needed again

> if you haven't figured it out already by that point

ha! bold of you to assume I know what I'm doing!

user

23:53

@lyxal Yeah, emanresu talked about how there wouldn't be recursive references, so refcounting would work

@lyxal I mean, none of us know what we're doing

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