!!/status

oh

well dang

Well, here we are again.

@lyxal bot's back

!!/status

@lyxal I am doing a bank robbery

well you see that's good and all, but where's the . you used to append to your statuses?

ur mum's house

idk why she has it

@naffetS The Duality of Man Chatbots

but more seriously, a lot of statuses now don't have .s at the end because the old bot appended .s

open an issue, I'll take care of it later

!!/issue open vyxalbot2 Bring back the appended . It was fun and now it's gone. :( Please give it back

Sorry lyxal, I'm afraid I can't do that.

oh

yeah right

!!/issue open in vyxalbot2 Bring back the appended . It was fun and now it's gone. :( Please give it back

@Ginger An error occurred while handling message 63155129!

oh

w h a t

!!/issue open in vyxalbot2 __Bring back the appended `.`__ It was fun and now it's gone. :( Please give it back

That's the raw command

oh, I did an oopsie

not your fault (this time)

server no worky, ping me tomorrow and I'll take care of it then

:+1:

Lyxal opened issue #63 (Is github reporting still functiinal?) in Vyxal/Sandbox

Lyxal closed issue #63 (Is github reporting still functiinal?) in Vyxal/Sandbox

!!/amilyxal

@emanresuA You are lyxal.

:D

I feel like the ami command could become more general

Like !!/ami emanresu A or !!/ami an admin or !!/ami an idiot

@Ginger k

that was a revenge ping for pinging me

lol

@user what do you think of my sugar trigraph implementation?

Haven't read it yet, sorry

Gimme a sec

👍

Is that going to be one of the trigraphs? :P

No

It's 4 bytes

A trigraph is 3 bytes

oh

Do you want to combine the sugar docs generating workflow with the element docs one?

No

Because the trigraphs won't be changed very often

I only made it a workflow because I didn't know how to generate a text file any other way :p

Ah ok

Oh boy I sure love having my screen flicker every once in a while

At least this laptop no longer decides to crash right when I'm in the middle of something important

My usual laptop's gone to get repaired currently and I'm using a really old one that can barely open Firefox, let alone VS Code lmao

github will require 2fa for all accounts by the end of 2023

!!/ping member

@Ginger @Seggan @lyxal @hyper-neutrino @emanresu A @Niko @Jacob @The Thonnu @Steffan @mathcat @zoomlogo @parz ^

@lyxal why.

ig it's fine

Noooo

2FA is great if people want it but it's so frickin' annoying

I don't always have my phone on me, and even when I do, getting it out, turning Wi-fi on, and then authenticating is annoying

bruh, they seriously recommend starting a new account if you get locked out

It's easy to make a new account but you'll have to fork your personal repos, so no more stars. And you can say goodbye to your private repos

I'm going to start putting my private repos in GitLab or something now

> By clicking "Add Successor" below, I acknowledge that I am the owner of the @ysthakur account, and am authorizing GitHub to transfer content within that account to my GitHub Successor, designated below, in the event of my death. I understand that this appointment of a successor does not override legally binding next-of-kin rules or estate laws of any relevant jurisdiction, and does not create a binding will. Learn more about account successors.

Holy heck

Did know about Successor Accounts

How does GitHub know if you're dead?

@user Gitlab sucks as well, they tried to delete inactive code

Oh right

Codeberg or Bitbucket it is then

Or get my own droplet on DO

Bitbucket's done some weird stuff, codeberg seems to be fine

Really? I thought it was just another GitHub/GitLab-like thing (bitbucket, I mean)

Looking at the home page, seems to be more for teams than individuals, I guess

@user Presumably when a lawyer reaches out to them

Ah

The amount of people who are going to lose their accounts from this is probably several orders of magnitude greater than the amount of people who would've been hacked.

time to start backing up all of my code on a USB stick instead

Look at this guy, playing it safe with backups

Real men only have a single copy of their code. If it’s lost, it’s lost, you just recreate it from memory

@user you only need to sign in once

And sudo mode is only needed for funky repo settings

And you don't even need a phone

If you have something with webauthn you can use that

@emanresuA but at least those lost accounts aren't compromised

That's the main reason for 2fa

Lyxal created branch implement-E in Vyxal/Vyxal

Lyxal opened pull request #1670 (Add E to elements) in Vyxal/Vyxal

E

Lyxal created branch implement-G in Vyxal/Vyxal

@VyxalBot What does the isList part do?

checks if a string represents a list

ah

Is ı a Java regex thing? I can't find any mentions of it.

it's a literal ı

? what does it do

it matches a literal ı

it's for complex numbers

6ı3 is 6 + 3i

oh, okay

mathcat4 approved #1670 (Add E to elements)

@lyxal WHAT

bruuuuuuuuuuuuh

> Developers’ accounts are frequent targets for social engineering and account takeover (ATO)

@pxeger stop committing crimes man

time to buy a security key I guess

@Ginger why you do me like this

Ah'll be bahk.

Well, here we are again.

!!/status

@Ginger I am doing this -> 🗿.

cool

Ah'll be bahk.

Well, here we are again.

!!/status tingly

amazing

!!/status

@Ginger I am doing D&D.

okay

!!/status

@Ginger I am doing excellently - I won the lottery and now I have to pay more alimony so actually not too good.

hm

Ah'll be bahk.

Well, here we are again.

!!/ping member Some changes have been made to !!/issue; namely, the issue body must now be enclosed within double quotes and tag names are now semicolon-separated. I made this last change because some tags have spaces in their names; if this changes ping me and I'll revert it.

@Ginger @Seggan @lyxal @hyper-neutrino @emanresu A @Niko @Jacob @The Thonnu @Steffan @mathcat @zoomlogo @parz ^

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kewl

ooh, you know what I just realized? Since both Scala and Kotlin are JVM langs, they should be able to interop

which means I might be able to make Crosshatch3 in Kotlin!

I can!

this is great

nice

ok, it's a bit weird, but I can indeed access Vyxal code from Kotlin

SCALA BETTER

Yeah just use scala if you’re making crosshatch 3, we’re already using multiple different languages, no need for another

Scala and kotlin are very alike so i think you’ll like scala too

No null checking (scala 3 can optionally do that but it makes using java methods annoying), but there’s option so still not bad

I do like the braceless scala syntax a lot

Hello! I'm just dropping by to say that I've started trying to write Vyxal in C (looks like @zoomlogo has already had the idea), which is probably a terrible plan but never mind that, it's too late now. I think emanresu is going to help at some point, but I only started learning C last week so help from anyone who knows C better than I do would be great. Let me know if you're interested and I'll publicize my github repo

@naffetS Scala!

github.com/Vyxal/Vyxal/actions/runs/4394320799/jobs/…

It looks like it's thrown every error possible

@tybocopperkettle Nice

Can't hurt to publicize your GitHub repo. You'll get some stars, if nothing else :P

@tybocopperkettle I would be interested too

@lyxal Looks like the dictionary wasn't passed in?

@user Alright, will do now

@user But it's been passed in other PRs

That resource stuff doesn't work in JS because resources aren't bundled in the JS

@lyxal hmm

github.com/tobyck/cyxal

@user This isn't because I created a new context object with no knowledge of previous context is it?

Possibly, if you forgot to give it a dictionary

Dang

Maybe we need to rethink that lol :|

I don't get how the PR met all checks but this only showed up after merging

I did val temp: Context = Context()

Because I needed a context in a function that doesn't take context

In MiscHelpers?

Yes

Perhaps Parser.parse shouldn't take a Context then?

It only needs the settings, right?

It doesn't

Oh

Oh executeFn

It be like that

Well you should be able to eval code that uses compressed strings

So perhaps eval should take a Context. Would that cause othe rproblems?

@user use exec then

I didn't want eval to take context so it could be used in places where there isn't context

But adding context wouldn't cause problems because it's only used in one place at this stage lol

Perhaps we should have a whole platform-specific object with the dictionary

With JVM and Native, it can use resources

With JS, you can set it to whatever

It'll be ugly but doable

@lyxal Ah cool we can just do that for now then

If it causes problems we can do ^^

I mean, dictionary as a scala object would work too but that might cause metals to be silly

And first time compiles would be yikes too

No not like that

Like in the jvm and native folders, there'd be an object Dictionary that loads the dictionaries from the resources folders

And in the js/ folder, there'd be an object Dictionary with shortDict and longDict fields that the JS code can set

Can Scalajs read raw js files?

Both Dictionary objects would be the same so the shared code could use them

@lyxal Hmm, idk

For reading dictionary.js?

Yeah

Just execute that if possible

And set the object to that

Takes responsibility of dictionary setting away from the website too

@lyxal Good idea, not having to do all that manually will make it much easier

Looks like we just put dictionary.js in js/src/main/resources and then add a dependency for it

Mill should have a way to do it too

Sounds good to me

@tybocopperkettle is this a v2 or v3 port?

v2

I have no idea what is happening in terms of v3

Aww :(

And I don't know Scala

It's basically the same language. No idea if it's harder to parse or anything

@tybocopperkettle Fair enough

Yet...

:)

Are you transpiling to Python and just writing the transpiler in C or are you going to interpret it in C?

The latter

Cool cool

Wait the former wouldn't have made sense anyway, I'm dumb

Was going to go compiled cos of speed but didn't want to make 18 tonnes of work for myself

@user no, you're user

@lyxal Shouldn't be that hard to turn a v2 impl into an impl of v3 (or at least a sizable subset of v3). v3 is not the most stable right now

@lyxal Oh I'm dumb, I forgot who I was

!!/amiuser

Right, bod's dead

I know C but I like Scala better

@user no, you're user

Also didn't we already have Jyxal and Myxal?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

^

I assume this is more for fun

@naffetS We're going to find out I guess

This might actually be faster than Myxal

Possibly, is Myxal compiled or interpreted?

Compiled

Oh

Compiled and interpreted by the JVM

I see

So are we trying to win fastest-code and code-golf at the same time?

It doesn't have the overhead of the JVM or sympy's Java equivalent, but Myxal is compiled to raw JVM bytecode.

@naffetS Don't forget fastest-algorithm :P

Throw in a restricted-source perhaps

Who wants to write a question with all four tags?

I'm ready

I'm sure some spammer has used multiple winning criterion tags together at some point

Question: Write a Vyxal interpreter (must be only one byte) [fastest-code] [code-golf] [fastest-algorithmm] [restricted-source]

Answer: Vyxal, 1 byte: E (runs in O(1))

Only one answer :P

No I guess there would be multiple

We have Vyxal, Vyxal 3, Jyxal, Cyxal, and Myxal

And whatever else

So five answers

MGS

Magical Green Stuff?

MetaGolfScript

@naffetS it'd be interesting to compare speeds of the 5

Was Myxal ever completed?

Just made a commit with some basic elements, next step is to add tokenising support then make some modifiers. This is going to be... interesting

🎉

Are you sure you don't want to use a parser generator for the parser, at least initially?

Making the parser is one tough part of making a compiler/interpreter

Idk, I was thinking about it, but I think it would be fun to try and make one "by hand" and if it all goes terribly then I can just use a library instead

Hey wait does C do lazy evaluation?

no

Dang

I only kinda understand lazy evaluation so I am not gonna be the one to implement it in C, if it gets implemented at all

Well, here we are again.

It wouldn't be hard to implement a LazyList in C

You can do it in any language

Yeah of course

C just doesn't have anything builtin

@naffetS Relative to the rest of C ig

C++ is a little less painful

@tybocopperkettle You sure you don't want to use cpp?

No

I'm not sure, that is

Answering questions with negatives in them is fun :P

Lol yeah

I know nothing about cpp so I'm not really qualified to say which is a better option

I know nothing about it either, but from what I've heard, it'll be significantly easier to implement stuff, although by the end you may be tempted to yeet yourself off a bridge

Lmao that's basically what I've heard too

I think I'll stick with C for now, a) because I've already started, b) I can't be bothered with learning a whole other language, and c) I think more people know C, or at least more people that I know

!!/status

@Ginger I am doing a jar of bees. Ow.

._.