Vyxal

lyxal

00:12

@user I noticed you said that the pre commit stuff found an error with your formatting even though you formatted it with black.

I noticed that too last night

I autoformat whenever I save and I use the same settings as the script, but it still didn't like what I had

user

02:13

Is it using different configs?

@VyxalBot tmw you limit your code while debugging and forget to take it out of the PR but the tests still run

Vyxal Bot

Lyxal approved on PR #739 (Vyxal/Vyxal): "lgtm"

user

pog

emanresu A

04:24

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Vyxal Bot

11:40

Lyxal created branch Vyxal/fix-branch-parsing-issue

Lyxal opened PR #740 (Vyxal/Vyxal) (Vyxal:fix-branch-parsing-issue → Vyxal:main): Make `|` parse correctly when its in a structure

Vyxal Bot

11:55

Lyxal closed issue #644 (Add a digraph for suffixes, Vyxal/Vyxal)

lyxal

in regards to #573, @emanresuA given razetime's comment, do you still want it added?

Vyxal Bot

Lyxal closed issue #543 (Rickrolling in local system, Vyxal/Vyxal)

Lyxal deleted branch Vyxal/join-inf

lyxal

also @AaroneousMiller what's happening with the modified-full-stack branch? I don't recall what it was for

I'm just doing some repo housekeeping, that's all

Vyxal Bot

12:33

cgccuser approved on PR #740 (Vyxal/Vyxal): "Lgtm but could you add a parser test too?"

Vyxal Bot

12:55

SE-Nitro approved on PR #740 (Vyxal/Vyxal): "lgtm too"

Lyxal closed issue #738 (`|` not working in loops, Vyxal/Vyxal)

Lyxal merged PR #740 (Vyxal/Vyxal) (Vyxal:fix-branch-parsing-issue → Vyxal:main): Make `|` parse correctly when its in a structure

Lyxal deleted branch Vyxal/fix-branch-parsing-issue

Aaroneous Miller

13:18

@lyxal IIRC, that was going to be where I made full-stack elements have an arity or -1, as well as implement the various modifiers for full-stack elements, such as ~W or ƒ^. I had started implementing that, but then I accidentally found that sympy ACE and got a little bit distracted

I should probably finish that

PyGamer0

13:56

if im right

!!/make me a cookie

Vyxal Bot

@PyGamer0 Here you go: 🍪

mathcat

What's the shortest way in Vyxal to create an empty list?

Aaroneous Miller

Without any context, I'd say ⟨⟩, but depending on the situation, you can do it in 1 byte

user

14:25

Would everyone be okay with it if I deleted the entire repo?

Aaroneous Miller

but what about the memes?

user

Mmm ok

Why is it private again?

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mathcat

because lyxal

Aaroneous Miller

because vyxal

mathcat

because vyxalS

Aaroneous Miller

14:35

touche

Seggan

17:04

@user what about local vars then?

github.com/Vyxal/Vyxal/blob/… o stole ideas from Jelly?

Also, I have a feeling we should use more traditional [] syntax for lists

user

@Seggan Local vars inside constructors, you mean? Hmm, I guess there's no way to do that with my proposed syntax. Perhaps local variables can stay as →asdf and fields would be assigned like →.prop

@Seggan +1

And " or ' for strings

Seggan

+1 ^^

Im fine with [1|2|3], I like the BF-like function of the comma

user

Though if we used , instead of | as the separator, we'd have to do that for other structures too

But if | is kept then we still need to have separate stuff to print Vyxal and Python lists

Seggan

is there a difference?

we could always just print it using the []

user

17:19

Well we'd need one thing to read/print as Vyxal, with [a|b], and another thing to read/print as Python, with [a,b]. It'd be nicer if we just used one syntax for everything

Seggan

hmm

IMO, thats how I think it should be

user

CMP: How would you like { cond , body } for while loops, ( var , body ) for for loops, and ⟨ then , else ⟩ for if statements?

Seggan

its so hard constantly copy-pasting list delimiters

user

^

And Markdown doesn't play well with `

Seggan

@user that actually doesnt look so bad

user

17:22

imma hyperping cause it's fun

!!/hyperping

Vyxal Bot

@AaronMiller @AaroneousMiller @Allxy @Ausername @Milk @PyGamer0 @Seggan @Wansen @astonearachnid @emanresuA @grandBagel @hyper-neutrino @lyxal @mathcat @pxeger @rues ^

user

!!/ping me

Vyxal Bot

@user I have put you on the ping list.

user

@user (and [a, b, c, d] for lists and "foo" for strings)

Aaroneous Miller

17:45

FR: Diagraph to check if a list/string is sorted

also a diagraph to check if a list/string is reverse sorted

user

18:06

+1, you should make an issue

Vyxal Bot

18:16

AMiller42 opened issue #741 in Vyxal/Vyxal: Diagraphs for checking sortedness

Vyxal Bot

19:49

cgccuser created branch Vyxal/inf-cart-prod

cgccuser opened PR #742 (Vyxal/Vyxal) (Vyxal:inf-cart-prod → Vyxal:main): Implement cartesian power for infinite lists

mathcat

@user hmm

I'd ⟨ cond , body ⟩ for while loops more

and {} for if-else

user

Is that a "Hmm, good idea" or "Hmm, I don't like this"?

@mathcat That could work too

mathcat

because I've a feeling if-else would be used more than while loops

Seggan

Ye. {} for if else reminds me of Java

mathcat

but I think [] for lists would e good

user

19:58

We could use <> for for loops actually, since those ar eprobably rare

People will probably mainly use map lambdas

Or maybe not, I should consult the corpus

Seggan

@mathcat what about using commas?

user

Yup, ƛ is used 132 times while ( is used 94 times

Seggan

remind me where the corpus is?

nvm

user

github.com/Vyxal/Vyxal/issues/14 (emanresu got new results here) (thanks emanresu btw)

Seggan

hmm for seems to be used more than if

user

20:01

We should promote øm, ÞT, and ka to single byte elements and demote some elements to digraphs

Interesting, I guess if doesn't come up too often in golfing?

mathcat

like gcd

If is 69 and Loop is 94

user

Nice

mathcat

but while loop is 28

Seggan

So my evaluation: ⟨ cond, body ⟩ for while, (var, body) for for, {if, else} for if, "string" for strings, and [list, item] for lists

user

+1

mathcat

20:04

+1

Seggan

I wonder what the pipe will be used for if we adopt this...

user

Btiwse or, perhaps?

Seggan

+1

Think I should put up a discussion on GH?

user

👍

Vyxal Bot

cgccuser opened PR #743 (Vyxal/Vyxal) (Vyxal:cgccuser-patch-1 → Vyxal:main): Create dependabot.yml

Seggan created a discussion in Vyxal/Vyxal: Refactoring structures

user

20:24

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Seggan

@user you are cgccuser, right?

mathcat

Face reveal

is user really cgccuser?

Place your bets

Seggan

lol

just making sure I wasn't mentioning the wrong person

user

21:35

@Seggan Yup

in The Nineteenth Byte, Jan 29 at 3:59, by user

Don't tell anyone, but I'm actually a koala

3

Could someone please review this?

Also, is it just me or is the Discord dead? :(

Vyxal Bot

22:57

Lyxal approved on PR #743 (Vyxal/Vyxal): "Sure. "

Seggan

23:29

If a lambda is λarity|code;, how would you get the 2nd argument passed to it in the code if it is a arity 2 lambda?

lyxal

nt

Seggan

it is passed as a list?

lyxal

It's not exactly documented, but if you have a lambda with arity more than 1, n refers to all arguments

@Seggan correct

The stack starts with all the arguments individually

Seggan

mhm

lyxal

But n contains a list

Seggan

23:32

just another implementation detail for Jyxal lol

lyxal

@user no.

Those are needed for comparison

Also, I don't know if I made this clear, ; closes all structures in v3

user

23:49

@lyxal lol I meant the fancy vector angle brackets, I just didn't want to copy them

@lyxal Lists too?!

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