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03:05
@gparyani Ah, didn't know that. Good to know.
 
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06:35
Worth remembering that this is the first beta in nearly a year and the first since Robert was fired, so ... I wouldn't necessarily expect it to follow the identical pattern as it used to. :)
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user435118
12:16
@Catija what do you think?
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Q: Burninate the [drone] and [small-drones] tags

DaniilInspired from: What should we do about the [small-drones] tag? In my opinion, we don't need these tags, the reasons why they are being used now: The question is very low quality The first tag the asker could find A tag did not exist for the asker's question These tags are incredibly broad...

16:30
If you all wouldn't mind, please have a look over here for a second: drones.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/104/…
16:41
Also, @JacobB, I would argue this question isn't too broad: drones.stackexchange.com/q/824/97
> If you were to ask the questions "What is a DSHOT protocol?" and the question "How does DSHOT work?" they could have very in-depth, completely different answers.
To me, those are a rephrasing of the same question. I would answer the two nearly identically, save a description of the signaling protocol.
user435118
16:54
@ifconfig What do you mean by:
user435118
> Does editing the question and answer send it to the front page, or just the question?
Yeah, editing a question sends it to the front, but does editing an answer have the same effect to its parent question?
user435118
Yes it does
user435118
@ifconfig I am one of the downvoters, trying to figure out why I downvoted...
Ah, gotcha.
Well, when you do please let me know... I'm genuinely curious, not mad.
user435118
16:57
@ifconfig No sorry, I've got no idea. If you edit it, I'll retract it
user435118
I can't retract it till you edit it
Okay, done.
user435118
@ifconfig Retracted and upvoted :)
Still wonder why the other person thought so...
user435118
I'm really sorry, to be honest I have got no idea why I did that...
16:59
Thanks, @Daniil! I appreciate it.
No, not a problem.
We all have lapses in judgment, it's a normal part of the human condition. :)
user435118
@ifconfig What do you think of this? drones.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/101/…
Ah yes. (upvoted, btw.)
I was thinking retagging questions with these: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/54177381#54177381
user435118
@ifconfig good idea
> - [airplane]
> - [helicopter]
> - [multirotor]
> - etc.
user435118
I answered your meta question by the way
user435118
17:02
Just to say it was me and to apologise
I see. ๐Ÿ˜Š
You're a really upstanding internet citizen, and for that I wish to (remotely) shake your hand.
๐Ÿค
user435118
@ifconfig Thanks :)
user435118
๐Ÿค
user435118
@ifconfig if you agree with my delete vote, please cast a delete vote on :drones.stackexchange.com/questions/24/… it's no longer needed and in my opninion a bad example for a question
17:27
@Daniil Actually, I think it would be good to keep it around to serve as a counter-example to what we want here.
We could point to it as a bad example, and post a comment to the question explaining why it's bad.
user435118
@FlashCactus you on?
user435118
@ifconfig Sure thing
user435118
> I'm not sure why this isn't an answer to the linked question, especially as it's a straight suggestion. Consider reposting this there, maybe?
user435118
17:30
I thought it would bring a lot of discussion so I decided to repost as a new question
I'm sorry, is there context I'm missing here?
You basically posted an answer to my question
user435118
@ifconfig sorry it's just something between me and @FlashCactus that they posted
Ah, gotcha. Thanks! Carry on. :)
user435118
17:31
@FlashCactus you approve of my suggestion?
anyway, I'm not against having it as a separate question as well, I just think that you should also post the same text as an answer
user435118
Do you like the suggestion in my post though?
user435118
@FlashCactus ok
I do, it mostly correlates with what I had in mind.
user435118
@FlashCactus reposted, please discuss it on the new question though
17:33
Okay.
Well, besides the "how to delete tags so no one will use them in the future" part I agree with you.
We need to get rid of both, retag the existing questions, and probably add a dedicated sub250 tag.
user435118
Ok, sure
user435118
Should we start burnination now or wait?
The only thing I'd change is make the sub250 tag first so that it could be used in the retagging.
Otherwise, sure.
user435118
Sure, I'll make it now
wait wait
I'm not quite sure about how to name it
what's your take on it?
user435118
17:36
I've named it sub-250
user435118
I think that's good
user435118
Make small drones a synonym of sub-250?
Aaaand I'm still hoping @Catija or someone else would clarify whether SE has some kind of "restrict tag" functionality so that the tags we just removed couldn't be recreated in the future by some random user.
user435118
@FlashCactus Yes it can
>Make small drones a synonym of sub-250?
Yeah, maybe. If I understand correctly how synonyms work, we'll never see the "small-drones" wording ever again after that, and if anyone starts typing in "small", it will suggest sub-250 instead
user435118
17:39
K, I'll start burnination
user435118
Just confirm with something if you want me to start like "confirm"?
Did you create the sub-250 tag already?
user435118
@FlashCactus Yep
user435118
Rename it to sub-250g maybe?
user435118
17:40
k
ok, let's begin. I'd drop in on the fun as well.
user435118
I prefer to do my own questions though please :)
Ok, sure
user435118
So if you come across mine please leave it
I'm going to start with mine as well.
user435118
17:42
When do we re-tag?
user435118
When it is relevant to sub-250g only?
user435118
Like here: drones.stackexchange.com/questions/669/drone-fine-tuning It isn't only relevant to sub-250g so I just remove the tag?
user435118
@FlashCactus ^
I'd say get rid of the tag on this one entirely (and add more relevant tags probably)
user435118
In the edit summary, please put something like "tag burnination: drones.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/101/…;
user435118
17:44
So people know what we're doing
erm, I'm just using the "edit tags" function, it doesn't have the option to put in descriptions AFAIK
user435118
Oh ok then
user435118
@JacobB welcome to the burnination party :)
user435118
@FlashCactus that's fine then
Hello :)
17:46
Okay, one thing I should discuss.
Should we have a tag about drones that are commercially built/storebought/prebuilt/you get it?
I think such a tag would be very useful, but I'm stuck with the naming.
user435118
Sure thing, something like
We could have a BNF tag?
user435118
@FlashCactus I prefer personally
user435118
@JacobB What's BNF?
17:48
Bind and fly
unfortunately, "prebuilt" includes drones that are DIY-type but built by someone else
For drones that are bought and you bind them to your own transmitter
actually, RTF seems like a good option. almost all of the commercial sealed drones are RTF
We could have Prebuilt or multiple ones like BNF and RTF
the main distinction is whether it's meant to be customizable/rebuildable, or sold as a proprietary, non-modifiable package
I'd go with RTF
user435118
17:49
@FlashCactus Agreed
(or rather the long version, )
Yeah
ok, great
apparently we're done
yay
user435118
๐ŸŽ‰
17:54
Just so you know @Daniil, when you edit tags the post gets moved to the top of the feed (at least in the app). Not a problem whatsoever, just find it amusing that youโ€™re the main character in my feed ๐Ÿ˜‚
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user435118
@CaptainJ.LPicard :)
@CaptainJ.LPicard yeah, that's the main problem with mass-editing tags after private beta
@Daniil fair enough, I absolutely wasnโ€™t trying to criticise! Just thought it was amusing!
it stirs up all of the sediment from the bottom of the feed and confuses people who don't know what the heck is happening
17:56
@FlashCactus fair point :)
and that's one of the main reasons to do all the tag related stuff early on
Good point๐Ÿ‘
(the other is that as you go on, there's more questions that need your attention and more people who got used to something you now don't want)
Yes, I agree with that
@FlashCactus It's called a blacklist but we only do it if the tag gest recreated after being burninated several times.
18:01
ah, okay
@Daniil Submarine number 250? Please, remember to make tags that people will actually find and understand! If you really want this tag as is (which I still don't think is a good choice), you need to use terminology that's easy - "under-250-grams" is much clearer than "sub-250". There's no reason to be so short in your tag name!
user435118
@Catija Ok, good point. Can you re-map it to please?
user435118
@Catija You don't think the tag in general is a good idea, if so why?
I wrote a very long answer about it...
user435118
@Catija I disagree with your answer, this quesiton's answer will change with the size of the drone: drones.stackexchange.com/questions/420/flying-a-drone-in-france
18:08
Although I agree with @Catija's point somewhat, I still think the tag itself is needed, although maybe we need to make a second pass over the questions that have it and remove it from those whose answers aren't affected by the drone being under 250g, i.e. probably most non-legislation questions
@Daniil Read the comments
user435118
@Catija Good point, can't think of anything else that will be affected
context for the rest of the chat: drones.meta.stackexchange.com/a/97/272
user435118
erm, no
user435118
18:12
@FlashCactus ?
Not all questions about sub250 are about regulations
user435118
> we need to make a second pass over the questions that have it and remove it from those whose answers aren't affected by the drone being under 250g, i.e. probably most non-legislation questions
even though they are the minority
so there's no reason to rename the tag, just remove it from questions that aren't really affected by the size of the drone
user435118
So make another tag ?
user435118
@FlashCactus Ok
18:13
No. Why?
user435118
I think we're done
user435118
Second burnination complete
user435118
Removed tag for quesitons not specifically related to under 250 gram drones
@Daniil I'd untag this one if I were you: drones.stackexchange.com/questions/112/…
user435118
Will you check over it please? In case I missed something?
user435118
18:16
@FlashCactus Agreed, missed that one for some reason :/
(while it is about an under250 drone, the answer doesn't change either way)
user435118
Anyway, I'm off. Bye @FlashCactus and everyone else
great!
Bye!
Bye!
user435118
Nice burnination party @FlashCactus @JacobB :D
18:18
Yeah, it was great!
//I almost wish there were something else to burninate :)
okay, the feed is seriously messed up now.
 
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19:35
@FlashCactus lol @FlashCactus

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