Die2Nite

bwarner

17:02

Last chance for people to earn a quick 100 rep by weighing in on my question about scavenging strategies, the bounty will have to be awarded soon.

GnomeSlice

17:32

GnomeSlice

17:50

Oh sweet, links are permitted in town forums of Die2Nite now.

Of note is that links are permitted in the town forums now.

badp

@GnomeSlice no, I think that message meant links are disallowed on the world forums rather than allowed in the town forums.

← 2 messages moved from The Bridge

GnomeSlice

@badp Read the last line on the screenshot.

badp

@GnomeSlice That's the message I was talking about.

GnomeSlice

"Links are now permitted in town forums only"

The devs made a point earlier of saying that they were not allowed in either forum.

badp

Again, I think they simply removed the markup for links from the world forums.

Links have always been allowed -- just for approved resources only.

GnomeSlice

17:56

Did you not read the messages from the crow a while back?

badp

yes, I have.

GnomeSlice

For a while there, they said any external links could result in temporary bans.

badp

@GnomeSlice Can't find a quote for that.

GnomeSlice

I'm sure of it. They made a point of mentioning that they do in fact moderate town forums as well as global forums.

badp

@GnomeSlice They posted a lot of replies to mentioning that what they do then is post deletion and that it is not serious business.

See World Forums → Discussions → External links

GnomeSlice

18:05

Well, either way, now the posts will not be deleted from town forums.

badp

If you say so.

user30

@GnomeSlice I remember this.

badp

I need a version of this that is 2 characters shorter:

Next citizen to receive 8 complaints is killed

or rather

GnomeSlice

Next citizen receiving 8 complaints is killed?

badp

Next citizen to receive 8 complaints is hanged

Next citizen receiving 8 complaints is hanged

@GnomeSlice Nice, one more

GnomeSlice

18:11

How many shorter is that.

Umm...

is hung?

:P

badp

Hang next citizen receiving 8 complaints

din din din

GnomeSlice

Where are you posting this?

badp

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A: Is there a building tree for Die2Nite?

Key to the "Awesome" column: ♦ Not useful U - Can be upgraded -- see below. ♦♦ Meh ! - Only lasts one night! Waste of resources. ♦♦♦ Nice to have ♦♦♦♦ Get it if you can N - number of nuts and bolts required ♦♦♦♦♦ MUST HAVE ASAP D - number of defensive...

GnomeSlice

Ah.

badp

I forgot to give gallows their one lozenge.

bwarner

18:13

So do you think towns will pre-emptively build a gallows to scare people out of doing anything that would get them shunned?

GnomeSlice

So you need to drop another character?

@bwarner I hope not.

That has a high potential for abuse.

Your average angsty internet user would collaborate with the other angsty internet users to banish/hang people they don't like.

badp

@bwarner That's why I gave it one lozenge. Useless stuff.

like construction diary

the temptation to say "OMFG YOU SPENT ONE AP IN THE CATAPULT BANISH!! " is too strong once you have it

bwarner

Because if you wait, it won't do you much good. Generally when you want to shun someone, you want to do it immediately. And if you shun them, then building the gallows later doesn't do anything

GnomeSlice

Your average angsty internet user would collaborate with the other angsty internet users to banish/hang people they don't like.

@badp My town INSISTED on building the diary.

badp

@GnomeSlice I have it in this city. Sigh.

bwarner

18:16

People are definitely way too quick to use complaints.

badp

here's what it looks like, so you don't have any temptation:

DAY 12 (TODAY)
[18:36] Juanrayo worked on constructing the Guerilla Tactics.
[18:35] Juanrayo worked on constructing the Guerilla Tactics.
[17:39] MindStealer worked on constructing the Guerilla Tactics.
[17:09] Deadbuffalo worked on constructing the Guerilla Tactics.
[15:12] zombu worked on constructing the Primitive Catapult.
[11:29] A new building has been constructed : Emergency Defences.
This construction used :  Twisted Plank x8.
[11:29] freakin worked on constructing the Emergency Defences.

GnomeSlice

Apparently I'm the Community Extremist.

bwarner

PoW had the diary and I think it was a fine thing. Its not awesome, but I'd say it was more useful than not.

badp

(no need to see full text)

GnomeSlice

@bwarner bwarner > That's because we didn't abuse it.

The general reasoning in this town was something like:

"we shud build the dairy so we can shunn ppl who buld the rong thgn"

user30

18:18

Surprisingly, I have no more complaints as a result of my shack-building.

badp

@ThomasMcDonald The only reason I'm holding myself is that you saved my ass too many times :)

user30

@badp <3.

bwarner

Sure, but the diary itself isn't the problem. Its the people who are using it wrong. It should be "We should build the diary so that if people start building the wrong thing we can personally correct them before it is too late"

Generally people that are building the wrong thing aren't reading the forums, so the only way to have a chance at contacting them is by personal message, which means you have to know who they are

Or have that hero ability that lets you spam personal messages to the entire town

badp

@bwarner just send everybody complaints!!

bwarner

@Gnome Did you look at the new soul point rankings? I'm 14 and you're 15. Well, technically we're tied, but it lists me first.

GnomeSlice

18:23

@bwarner Where do I find these rankings?

bwarner

I'm somewhat tempted to join a town for the 15 days until my cruise, but I've been feeling a lot more productive at work since I stopped D2N. But having 25 days of inactivity isn't going to give me any chance of being a Champion in season 1

Go to Soul, then Season 1, then Soul Points

badp

@bwarner Nice! If I died tonight (likely) I'd only have 331 soul points.

GnomeSlice

Lame.

:P

badp

Then again, Arda has 306.

GnomeSlice

I wish this town ranking had been implemented before the Palisades.

My current town sucks.

Like, really sucks.

Hey, FrankMudd and Maharajah are also listed with the same number of soul points as you and I.

badp

18:25

IPoS would be 1st on that ranking :(

GnomeSlice

@badp No, we would have been.

bwarner

The post seemed to imply that 100+ SP towns might have the bigger map now? That might be why they didn't carry over the towns

badp

@GnomeSlice Same number of days and we did it first.

GnomeSlice

We tied their record day, and had a way higher ranking score.

bwarner

Still, that puts us at a disadvantage, so we should get to have our time at the top of the list

GnomeSlice

18:26

@bwarner If you go to your soul, the previous towns have been wiped out.

bwarner

I'm guessing the official ranking will be by days only

Yah, I noticed that

badp

@bwarner 6 months

bwarner

6 months? I thought it said 3

GnomeSlice

We need to form a power town.

@bwarner It is 3.

However, now that the rankings have been implemented, I'm hesitant to take my cyanide pill.

badp

@bwarner Correct

sorry.

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/103/die2nite?tab=schedule

bwarner

18:31

Its funny though, your town has to die before the season ends. So you'll have to decide between dying to get a boost in the current season, or living to get a big headstart on the next season

badp

strategic outside camping

bwarner

90 days seems pretty short. If you have good towns, you'll only get a few in

@Badp what's that about camping? You think it is coming in season 2?

badp

@bwarner Just a mention of a way people can call it quits in autonomy

I think we won't have to wait that long for camping

then again what do I know

> Important: Only towns in Distant Regions are ranked. Small maps or towns created for special events will not feature in the season's rankings.

Oh boy, normal cities will be hell.

bwarner

Yah, that "Small maps" is what I meant about implying the larger maps were in

GnomeSlice

Oops.

I just made a judgmental error, and am trying to make it look like I know what I'm doing on the forums.

badp

18:35

basically, get in small town, die2nite, repeat until you get in an advanced town.

bwarner

Oh, and it sounds like town ranking is based on adding the soul points earned by everyone in the town. So you are rewarded for keeping everyone alive as long as possible

GnomeSlice

I suggested the Hydraulic Network over the Ramparts.

bwarner

@Badp If you qualify for an advanced town, you will always get into one

GnomeSlice

@bwarner That seems like a poor incentive to use the new gallows.

badp

@bwarner really?!

GnomeSlice

18:36

@badp Yes...

bwarner

Yes. That's why I added my answer on that question

badp

Gah, this has been added. I swear it wasn't like that.

Let's go delete my answer then

GnomeSlice

It was, truly.

bwarner

"At the end of each season, the citizens from the best town from each level of the rankings will receive various rewards." What does it mean "Each level of the rankings"?

GnomeSlice

Each season?

bwarner

18:39

No, because it already says "each season"

GnomeSlice

"Citizens from the best town"?

bwarner

Also, is the benefit only for being in a good town? Is there no reward for having accumulated the most personal soul points?

GnomeSlice

I thought they were measuring it individually.

bwarner

Man, I wish I could actually post on their stupid forums.

GnomeSlice

This is extremely ambiguous.

@bwarner did you get the avatar?

bwarner

18:42

Yep, you should be able to see it now

GnomeSlice

Yep.

Want to join my coalition?

I'm in a town, but you can still join.

bwarner

Palisades total soul points = 8795

GnomeSlice

@bwarner How did you figure that out?

Also, that is most unfair.

bwarner

@Badp Can you calculate what IPoS was? You can get to old towns by clicking "My Game History"

badp

@bwarner It's the only city I have soul points for

but I died 2 days earlier

bwarner

18:45

No, but you need to know everyones. That's how they are scoring, add the soul points earned for everyone in the town

badp

oh, okay

300×6+276×2+253×18+231+171+153+105+91+45+21+21+15+10+3×3+0

bwarner

So that's a substantial penalty for having someone die early on

badp

7,778

bwarner

Woohoo, Palisades wins!

badp

so you win by that metric =)

GnomeSlice

18:47

We win.

Told you. :(

I want my ranking back.

badp

meh, we both made it to day 24.

GnomeSlice

I don't want to play this game anymore. This town sucks.

bwarner

We had 20 some people die on day 23

badp

That's the metric we were all thinking about.

GnomeSlice

Technically, I only made it to day 23.

badp

18:47

@bwarner We had 18 people die on day 22, hence the difference :)

well, okay, having those die on day 23 would only have made 414 points of difference

GnomeSlice

@badp I don't think it's the entire difference.

Anyway, I'm out for now.

badp

I posted the detailed tally, you haven't, so how am I supposed to know? :)

bwarner

3x300+24x276+231+210x2+190+153+91+66+36x2+28+10x2+0

badp

yeah, 253×18 vs 24x276

the difference is 2,070

so yeah, well done :)

bwarner

Too bad that apparently neither one counts

badp

18:58

Anyway, the current incarnation of IPoS++; seems determined to make it to day 25

at day 9 they had 88 defensive objects...

during tonight's downtime I'll ask for an updated tally

GnomeSlice

Actually, I'm back.

badp

Mass of Hell might instead be one of the very first cities to register.

Somebody on our forum just noted that Gorilla Tactics require 2 nuts and bolts.

I would've sworn bananas would've done the job...

user30

@badp Oh my.

badp

so we're currently 162 def short after building emergency defenses for, what, the fourth day running?

that's an average of 6 zombies per citizen exactly

GnomeSlice

Or 180 zombies for 1 citizen.

badp

19:02

1,094-932 = 162

user30

I hope we die tonight.

badp

yes, we're also short on the minimum defense requirement.

(995)

bwarner

OK, I joined the coalition, but I marked as unavailable since I still don't think I should get into a town until after my vacation

GnomeSlice

It's funny, I was listed as available, but It didn't pull me into the Cloudy Dam of the Damned with the rest. :(

badp

okay, I just put in the last AP for the Guerilla Tactics

977 defs, or 117 short, or 4.3 more

@GnomeSlice Means the city is full.

GnomeSlice

19:05

@badp There were only 2 other in the coalition that got in.

badp

@GnomeSlice only I and Arda could get into IPoS; CRoss, Brant and Thomas couldn't join.

Brant

19:24

because there were already 38 people in the town when the coalition joined it

F Oak

19:38

If you are looking for more people for the coalition, look me up.

GnomeSlice

I think mine is full. :(

Yep. Sorry.

F Oak

oh, my. That hurt soo bad. I think zombies are going to kill me or something.

(but I have a water gun, they will never get me)

bwarner

Message from the Crow: About the new Town Forum links rule that you may have seen in the announcements:
The wording in the announcement does not really let you know the details of the change.
Unapproved Scripts and sites with Spoilers are still not permitted.

So the change is that you can now post Jukebox links and such

GnomeSlice

Whoops.

I posted links to two different Wikis

Feeds

21:05

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Q: How do I Poison Someone?

This is difficult to ask. Ok, so this guy is really getting on my nerves. He's stubborn, obnoxious, idiotic, and completely driving me up the wall. It's time for him to go. I figured poison would be the best way to get rid of him, because I could probably get away with it and not be noticed b...

GnomeSlice

22:04

Hordes of zombies are attacking your town ! They are everywhere, you hear citizens screaming in the night, the attackers clashing noisily against sheet metal... Hungry groaning from the starving masses... What's going to become of it ?!

Are you going to die2nite?!

user30

22:34

Okay, our town does have a sense of humour:

user30

> I think Gorilla Tactics would be awesome, but we haven't found any Gorilla in the desert, just snakes, rats, and cats.

user30

> Plus then we have to build Elephant Tactics to scare off the Gorillas.

2

badp

@ThomasMcDonald We had 1,047 defense and 1,049 zombies.

We're still alive.

user30

Wonderful?

badp

@ThomasMcDonald Not for you :P

user30

22:52

@badp Yay.

badp

2 people were terrorized; 1 isn't you.

Dunno about the second.

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