@Meysam Hmm I see. It never makes me dizzy—but I've never had a tooth ache.
> It’s a first for Wegmans in this area (New York). They’ve put up a sign asking customers buying pork or alcohol not to use a particular checkout line when a Muslim teenager is on duty as the cashier.
This is funny.
All supermarkets here have lots of Muslim cashiers.
And it is never a problem for anyone.
But the Americans have to be politically correct...
Hmm let's see. I have a steak, some bacon, a few beers, and eggs. Which line shall I take. The one with the Muslim cachier? No. The Hindu cashier, then? No, the steak. The recovering alcoholist line? No. The Vegan line? No, no.
Oh, don't be ridiculous. If the management of the supermarket can make things a little more bearable for one of their employees by putting up a sign, why the hell wouldn't they?
Again, you're being ridiculous. If you really found crosses offensive, you wouldn't want to work in a church. The parallel with a convenience store is extremely tenuous.
I used to play keyboards. I worked in my local church as their regular organist, just for the practice. I was an atheist at the time, and still am. But that was my choice. This teenager at the convenience store might not have the choice.
Look, I have three points: 1. You can't take everyone's particular preferences into account, as evidenced by the fact that supermarkets here don't, and no employees complain. 2. I don't see why religious things should be any different from other things people feel more or less strongly about, i.e. there is no objective criterion. 3. The cashier can choose to work somewhere else.
So how many clients do you think will be forced to move to another queue once they reach the cashier and are told they cannot check out their pork? People always miss notices, especially tourists who don't read whatever language it is in.
I hate having to move to another queue because the PIN machine is broken.
OK, you can analyse this till you're blue in the face, and maybe make some valid points along the way. But you still haven't answered my question - if the management can easily make things more tolerable for one of their staff, why shouldn't they?
And do you really want to have this discussion in a chat room with two Iranians and an Imam's grandson-in-law?
@DavidWallace Because it forces customers to switch queues. Because it will cause an uneven distribution between the two or three queues that are usually open at the same time, increasing waiting time for everyone.
@DavidWallace Are you an Imam's grandson-in-law? Nice.
@Cerberus Not necessarily. If I had no pork or alcohol in my basket (which would usually be the case), I would probably go to the Muslim cashier. Might just even things out.
By the way, I have nothing at all against Islam in particular. I would be against it just as well if it has been vegetarians or vegans or Hindus or anyone, really.
I know some really nice Muslims.
@Mahnax Forsooth, but nay, 'tis far from the truth.
@DavidWallace Sure, if it didn't force the restaurant to employ more people and lose money, and if the clients aren't inconvenienced, there is no problem.
I am thinking of, why would a teenage Muslim cashier want to look at the stuff I am buying? Isn't it sort of violation of my privacy? I don't want anyone to know what I have bought! Including the cashier.
@Cerberus If they believed that God didn't want them to sell meat, then they'd be in the same boat as the Muslim teenager. If they didn't then your argument is piffle.
@DavidWallace Receiving God commands is not necessarily through the holy prophets. Sometimes god directly contacts people and gives orders. A vegan, may have received commands from God too.
@Cerberus because given the choice between disobeying my employer and disobeying an almighty deity, it's kind of a no-brainer. But my employer should not discriminate against me for making such a choice.
But why should it make an essential difference for someone else?
I am generally for accommodating religious beliefs. But the reason is that I don't like to make people do things they don't want to do and feel strongly about. Other ideas and beliefs and rules that people feel strongly about should have the same status.
@DavidWallace I think someone who sins willfully should be killed in the name of the Lord Almighty. Because the more s/he is alive, the more she will sin and deeper she will go into the fires of hell. So it's always a good idea to kill a willful-sinner as soon as we can.
@Meysam Sorry, I have no intention of poking holes in your religion. You just surprised me with your earlier assertions about wanting someone to kill you. It's not something that gets said here very often.
@Cerberus but a recurring theme of the Qur'an is that Allah is forgiving and merciful. Particularly in the earlier Surahs. I think I need to study it more.
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