Conversation started Mar 14, 2012 at 3:43.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Mar 14, 2012 03:43
Singular: o, s, t
Plural: mus, tis, nt.
Mahnax
Mahnax
That's the book I have.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Take a random verb, like laudare (re is the infinitive ending), "to praise".
You praise is laudas, he praises is laudat.
Mahnax
Mahnax
Hold on, let's get some pronouns in here first, please.
Oh, wait.
Are there any?
Cerberus
Cerberus
You don't need pronouns: Latin doesn't use them nearly as often as we do.
Mahnax
Mahnax
Ah, that's what I thought.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Mar 14, 2012 03:45
Personal pronouns are mainly used for emphasis; otherwise they are left out.
Mahnax
Mahnax
Those endings go in this order, yes?
Singular: I, you, he
Plural: you, we, they
Cerberus
Cerberus
Yes.
Mahnax
Mahnax
Okay.
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Cerberus
Cerberus
A + o contracts to o, so I praise = ?
Mahnax
Mahnax
Laudo?
Cerberus
Cerberus
Mar 14, 2012 03:46
Ding!
Mahnax
Mahnax
Yay!
Cerberus
Cerberus
Now "father praises"?
Mahnax
Mahnax
Pater laudat.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Ding!
Mahnax
Mahnax
I think father is pater.
Yay!
This is fun.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Mar 14, 2012 03:48
Now word order is less fixed in Latin (it is determined by various factors), so you could just as well say "laudat pater".
Mahnax
Mahnax
Should I concern myself with these factors at the moment?
Cerberus
Cerberus
No.
Mahnax
Mahnax
Okay.
I shall ignore them, then.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Basic morphology should come first.
There are four conjugations (kinds of verbs): those with a stem on a, e, i, and [zero].
Mahnax
Mahnax
[zero]?
Hm.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Mar 14, 2012 03:50
The stem of laudare is lauda-; of terrere it is terre- ("to frighten"), audire audi-; then consonant stems don't have a typical vowel because they technically end on a consonant.
@Mahnax No vowel.
Mahnax
Mahnax
@Cerberus Oh.
Cerberus
Cerberus
So what is "they frighten"?
Mahnax
Mahnax
Terrent.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Ding!
Mahnax
Mahnax
dances
Cerberus
Cerberus
Mar 14, 2012 03:51
Now e and i don't contract with o, so what is "I hear"?
Mahnax
Mahnax
Audire is to hear?
Cerberus
Cerberus
Yes.
Mahnax
Mahnax
Ah, good.
Audio.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Ding!
What do you think is "to see"?
Mahnax
Mahnax
And that is where we get the word, folks.
Oh, to see.
Video.
Or something close to that.
Videre?
Cerberus
Cerberus
Mar 14, 2012 03:52
That is a correct form; so what is the infinitive?
@Mahnax Ding!
Mahnax
Mahnax
@Cerberus Lucky guess.
Cerberus
Cerberus
No no, you guessed according to the rules.
Mahnax
Mahnax
I suppose I did.
Cerberus
Cerberus
You knew -re was the infinitive ending, and video minus -o the stem.
Mahnax
Mahnax
Well, I didn't know that -re was the ending.
Oh, wait.
They all are, so far.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Mar 14, 2012 03:54
Okay, now the i conjugation has one irregularity: 3rd person plural is -iunt, not *-int.
Mahnax
Mahnax
@Cerberus So when the stem is i, you add a u?
Cerberus
Cerberus
Yes.
Mahnax
Mahnax
Okay, fair enough.
Cerberus
Cerberus
So what is "they hear"?
Mahnax
Mahnax
Audiunt.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Mar 14, 2012 03:55
Ding!
Now the fourth and final conjugation is the consonant stems.
Mahnax
Mahnax
Alright.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Like mittere, "to send".
Stem mitt-, inf. ending -r, and the theme vowel e.
Mahnax
Mahnax
@Cerberus Mitt?
Why?
Cerberus
Cerberus
A theme vowel is a vowel that is added after consonant stems if needed for pronunciation.
@Mahnax Oops sorry! Typo.
Mahnax
Mahnax
Hehe.
Cerberus
Cerberus
Mar 14, 2012 03:57
The theme vowels for consonant stems are:
Inf: e
Singular: [zero], i, i
Plural: i, i, u
So "he sends" is mitt-i-t.
Mahnax
Mahnax
Huh.
@Cerberus Why is the ending -r?
Cerberus
Cerberus
Huh, what r?
Mahnax
Mahnax
> inf. ending -r
Cerberus
Cerberus
Oh shit! Another typo.
Mahnax
Mahnax
-re?
Cerberus
Cerberus
Mar 14, 2012 03:59
The ending is -re, yes.
 
Conversation ended Mar 14, 2012 at 3:59.