whole discussion with Logan about id-req

Conversation started Aug 30, 2014 at 3:25.

Hell Butterfly

Aug 30, 2014 03:25

Q: What criteria should we use for QCing for “identification-request” answers?

With so many 1 line name of anime answer right now. We've previously voted that we need a set of guidelines to quality control (QC) for identification-request answers These guidelines will be applied to (new and old) identification-request answers So how should we go about making these guideli...

Shinobu Oshino

@HellButterfly it's my first time making answer wiki I hope I didn't mess up :)

Logan M

Aug 30, 2014 03:38

@HellButterfly I don't get it. What's the purpose of this post?

Shinobu Oshino

@LoganM for guidelines?

Yes, there absolutely should be. However, it's complicated by the fact that there are 2 very different types of ID requests: those with images/video and those with only memories. The guidelines for what constitutes a good answer for each type are very different, so we'd probably need 2 guides. — Logan M Jun 3 at 22:47

Logan M

@ShinobuOshino No, for the post you made

Shinobu Oshino

@LoganM to make something like this?

A: What criteria should we use for QCing for ALL "identification-request" questions?

Taking cues from sites like TV & Movies.SE, Sci-Fi.SE, and Arqade, I've come up with the following guidelines: An identification-request should have as many of the following points as possible: Any description of the leading/recurring character(s) (i.e. physical description, behavior,...

or is it should be mod doing?

Logan M

What I suggested is a "guide" for answering ID requests well. Not the establishment of a codified set of rules under which ID request answers would be judged, with those that are deemed unworthy shot-down unilaterally or by a small number of high rep users.

Shinobu Oshino

I want to make it easier to explain user about how to answer

one liner usualy got judged and got downvote anyway

Logan M

Aug 30, 2014 03:43

In the first place, how do you intend to enforce this so-called "quality control"? For questions, it's (rather bizarrely) enforced by close voting because a small number of notable high-rep users on this site were not satisfied with letting the community decide on the quality of questions with their votes and only policing those questions which fundamentally require action, not just questions lacking certain (somewhat irrelevant) aspects.

Shinobu Oshino

so your suggestion?

Logan M

I don't see the need for a post at all on this

especially when said post is mostly duplicating things which already exist on meta

Shinobu Oshino

will you add the answer on that question if we don't need something like that? and downvote my question/answer also

or edit it

Logan M

On what question?

The most recent one?

Shinobu Oshino

yea

well it's meta after all

Logan M

Aug 30, 2014 03:47

I don't even understand what problem you're trying to solve with it

Shinobu Oshino

previously I add comment like this

Your answer need more detail, add citations, image, or description. see another answer here. — Shinobu Oshino yesterday

and I give link to the proposal answer

I want to make it more official answer

something like that

Logan M

I'm not sure that's useful, but regardless, that's not what the question is asking.

Karasu

Shinobu Oshino

uhm, that I myself not sure, you know I'm not good in English and I also bad at explaining thing (reason why I only has so little answer)

but did you got my intention?

know what I mean?

yea maybe not really usefull, but it gives them information of what should be there to answer id-request

Logan M

I'm not sure what's wrong with using the current version. It's not "official", but basically nothing on meta is official anyway.

Especially with regards to how people vote on questions and answers, the only policy is "don't vote serially". Everything else is just suggestions.

Shinobu Oshino

Aug 30, 2014 03:54

hmmm, I was meant to make wiki answer so other people can add the answer to make it better

wiki give the right too change the content right?

Logan M

For users with over 100 rep, yes

In any case, the way you've written it now, it seems like this is an official policy and that answers which don't do all of those will get deleted. Which is just not true.

Shinobu Oshino

I also don't agree on deleted answer like that

but we have flag for low quality answer

1 liner sure is low quality

and shouldn't flag meant to deleted those answer?

I dont know, CMIIW

Logan M

No, that's not what the low quality flag is for

The low quality flag is horribly named. It's actually for posts which are completely incomprehensible, not just low quality.

Shinobu Oshino

and here I was about to vote deletion one of those old answer :p

> What criteria should we use for better “identification-request” answers?

how bout that

I remove the whole QC thing

Logan M

What we need isn't a set of rules or criteria at all

(IMO)

Shinobu Oshino

Aug 30, 2014 04:03

guidelines?

Logan M

We need something explaining what constitutes a good answer to an identification request question and how to write one. The current list doesn't do that at all really. Separating it into its own question makes it worse IMO.

Shinobu Oshino

> How should we answer “identification-request” question?

and what about the answer?

Logan M

Answer needs serious work IMO

Shinobu Oshino

so, should I edit my question and delete my answer?

or edit my answer

Logan M

I don't know. I'm just exhausted of discussing ID requests on meta a dozen times every month, and I don't understand what aspect of this is not already covered. You can do whatever you want, but I'm not really in the mood to advise you on the right course of action.

Shinobu Oshino

Aug 30, 2014 04:13

I see, I edit some for now, just downvote or comment if you don't agree, sorry for bother you :)

Conversation ended Aug 30, 2014 at 4:13.

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