Conversation started Dec 10, 2014 at 17:48.
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
Dec 10, 2014 17:48
let me rephrase, what do you think it is that a graphic designer does (in general)?
Hakase
Hakase
draws shapes and positions data on given limited space
too general?
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
no that's good
your idea of a graphic designer is more so along the lines of what you would consider a UX designer to do, study and evaluate how users feel about a system, looking at such things as ease of use, perception of the value of the system, utility, efficiency in performing tasks and so forth
allow me to make the distinction with visual, graphic, and UX design
Hakase
Hakase
sure, please do
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
in graphic design, something -- whether it’s branding, information, or an advertisement -- is communicated to users through text and images
how those two elements, text and images, are placed on the web page or printed page is also part of a graphic designer’s business, as well as font choices, color, and other visual elements
through their craft, graphic designers inspire emotions and responses... a graphic designer will know that users will respond very differently to text written in the much-maligned Comic Sans font as opposed to in old-fashioned Helvetica font
graphic design is iconic and recognizable, like the Coca-Cola, I <3 NY, or FedEx logo
now visual and graphic design are very closely linked and the two terms are often used interchangeably
you may come across job advertisements and degree programs described as visual/graphic design
:18998181 I was liking that
Sometimes visual design is referred to as visual communications, and this terminology may help give you a sense of difference between the two roles
Taisho
Taisho
googledrive.com/host/0B_8okaqRyPERVlM0OVVCS29TVzQ/… ..
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
Dec 10, 2014 17:59
where a graphic designer uses typefaces, hierarchy, color, images, and placement to create a product, a visual designer might be more focused on coming up with a holistic aesthetic that travels across all platforms
you can think of graphic designers as communicating information, and visual designers as being focused on the look and feel of the product and brand, as well as being involved in conversation about what the site or product provides, and project goals
graphic designers typically work on either the design of print materials (packaging, brochures, magazines, etc.) or the design of webpages and apps
a visual designer serves as a mid-point between the pure design abilities of a graphic designer, and the more user-focused interests of a user experience designer...
unlike graphic and visual designers, who have as their main focus aesthetics and communication, user experience designers are focused on users and how they interact with the site
they ask question like: how do people move around the site? what happens when people click on this button? will changing the color or size of a widget influence users to make bigger purchases, or interact with the site differently?
JNat
JNat
is @Hakase still here, and reading?
Hakase
Hakase
yiss
Taisho
Taisho
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ʞɹɐzǝɹ
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
to get an answer to these types of questions, user experience designers, called UX designers, will do user testing, often in the form of A/B testing
while user experience design is also concerned with the appearance of the site, it’s how users interact with the site, navigating through and making decisions on where to click (and where not to click) that most strongly occupies a UX designer
typically user experience designers create wireframes, or visual blueprints for a site's design, as well as digging into information architecture, which is the fundamental way the information on the site is organized, displayed, and identified to users
fundamentally, user experience designers ensures that a website is easy to use, and provides products, whether information, a service, or items for sale, smoothly and efficiency
note that the field is relatively new, and interdisciplinary in nature, so degrees in psychology (most notably cognitive science), computer science, or graphic design could all be considered relevant
Hakase
Hakase
Dec 10, 2014 18:15
guess I'll be studying cognitive science in the future
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
this infographic probably does a better job describing everything in bite sized chunks
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/rant
any questions?
Hakase
Hakase
Firefox themes?
cpu and memory usage?
uhhhh heart beat rate and blood pressure?
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
@Hakase don't focus on just that, learn to apply it to other discplines
Hakase
Hakase
@ton.yeung I don't really know as much as you know about psychology and stuff as you do, apparently, so I'll need a little bit more guidance to understand what you mean
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
@ton.yeung how does that mesh with the Wild Card ability?
a blue butterfly?
Hakase
Hakase
Dec 10, 2014 18:21
also y u guys keep saying "cognative"
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
@Hakase I can't spell cognitive
nhahtdh
nhahtdh
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ʞɹɐzǝɹ
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
@ton.yeung what's your natural Arcana?
Hakase
Hakase
@nhahtdh this will reflect on tomorrow's school grades
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
@ton.yeung your Persona
nhahtdh
nhahtdh
Dec 10, 2014 18:23
@Hakase I'm out of school already
Hakase
Hakase
@nhahtdh I meant for the character she's saying that to
@ton.yeung not sure where this is applicable if most things mentioned like websites and product brands will be "used" by a huge number of people
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
@nhahtdh how did you get out, what did you take with you
Hakase
Hakase
do you mean average person profile of the target audience or are we talking about products designed for a select few users (in which case I have no idea what kinda stuff that could even be)?
nhahtdh
nhahtdh
I come in standing and come out crawling on four, and I took whatever I could with me
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
@Hakase this is where you ask about the scope
Taisho
Taisho
Dec 10, 2014 18:29
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nhahtdh
nhahtdh
Learned that in my class, but forget already
Hakase
Hakase
but how do you get that persona's responses? do the people in charge have a very strong vision of what that persona would do in certain cases, or do they test on a number of people that on average form a behavior similar to the target persona?
nhahtdh
nhahtdh
Since I never use it
In the case where you are too poor, you have to imagine
put yourself in the shoe of the persona
Hakase
Hakase
@nhahtdh it's small :p
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
ʞɹɐzǝɹ
@nhahtdh don't not just the shoes, imagine the habits as well
a bit a empathy is involved in this
Frosteeze
Frosteeze
Dec 10, 2014 18:33
Maid Cafe and UX 101 at the same time. I approve.
Hakase
Hakase
@ton.yeung what are the dangers of mixing?
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ I might be interested in making a company for the business I'll end up doing some years down the road, and when the times comes I want to be prepared and know what my business lacks, and whom to hire. Also for my current personal projects it's useful as a marker on the map of things needed to make a nice app. This here stuff definitely helps with that.
 
Conversation ended Dec 10, 2014 at 18:37.