clickbait titles

Dragonrage

May 3, 2016 17:03

who changed my title :(

it was perfectly fine

Private Pansy

@Dragonrage The original title accidentally a word I think

badp

@twobugs let's ask our resident expert @KevinvanderVelden

committing sudoku

Lots of low effort clickbait titles

It's like you're deliberately going on the wikia

looking for trivia points

then asking questions with them as answers

badp

@committingsudoku at least we don't pretend we're dank enough to call ourselves "home of fandom"

committing sudoku

d a n k a e s t h e t i c s

badp

May 3, 2016 17:05

You wish your aesthetics were half as aesthetic as ours

Dragonrage

@committingsudoku i didnt know the answer before i asked the question, so w/e

badp

Our aesthetics multiplier is in the double digits yo

Dragonrage

be upset at me and downvote all you want

committing sudoku

a r q a d e a e s t h e t i c s = mod abuse

two bugs

Can you not

badp

May 3, 2016 17:06

now that's just chan-grade garbage

Dragonrage

^

committing sudoku

@twobugs Okay I'll just try to avoid typos next time

badp

what next, greentext?

(That's probably a good band name)

ChromeSlice

@committingsudoku What are you, the zyzz of arqade

(rip zyzz)

two bugs

I mean, I wanted to give you another chance but it seems like you just want to be really annoying

Fluttershy

May 3, 2016 17:07

@Dragonrage I agree. It seemed like a very unnecessary edit.

two bugs

I think the charge edit isn't that bad

badp

A meme to die for

ChromeSlice

You guys really need to stop finding excuses to ban people you don't like

two bugs

The "running into things" title just sounds really generic

Cancelling Reinhardt's charge is a reasonable title

badp

pfft I might be the only person who likes retro here

Rainbolt

May 3, 2016 17:10

@twobugs I love your avatar

two bugs

@ChromeSlice I don't think taking up like 90% of the screen and posting swastikas is okay but I just ignore him

Rainbolt

It's so cute

two bugs

@Rainbolt Thanks :)

Yuuki

@ChromeSlice ... How often do we look for excuses to ban people that it's become a problem that we need to stop?

The last person who I remember got banhammered was UniKitty.

And that was definitely not a case of fishing for excuses.

two bugs

I think we were pretty lenient with Unikitty

Guy just couldn't take any number of reasonable hints

ChromeSlice

May 3, 2016 17:12

didn't he pretty much just get banned for being annoying?

Fluttershy

@ChromeSlice "Banning people you don't like" vs "Banning people who post offensive things". You should know the difference by now.

@ChromeSlice no, he got banned for posting swastikas.

badp

@ChromeSlice no, no he did not

two bugs

@ChromeSlice No, he made a TON of sockpuppets, among other things

badp

@Fluttershy no that's not precisely it either

SaintWacko

Yeah, I think we actually give people a lot of chances here

Rainbolt

May 3, 2016 17:12

There is probably a correlation between "offensive" and "stuff I don't like"

badp

the ban was for equating swastikas with people

two bugs

Wait what

badp

I think I'm able to have a little more discretion than a regular expression ;)

two bugs

Did I miss something

Yuuki

@badp Wait, we bought him a van?

badp

May 3, 2016 17:14

@Yuuki metaphorically speaking

two bugs

Ah, the vanhammer

Would it be a hammer constructed from vans? Or a van in the shape of a hammer?

SaintWacko

@Yuuki No, we ran him over with one

Rainbolt

@twobugs Professional Wrestler

Van Hammer

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SaintWacko

@twobugs I think it would be used for hammering vans

badp

This van is made for running

that's just what it'll doo

two bugs

May 3, 2016 17:19

One of these days this van is gonna run all over you

user15026

@Lazers2.0 The problem with this title is that it's kinda clickbaity (or can be read this way) and the other one was a little clearer as to what you actually wanted.

two bugs

Yeah, that's how I feel about it

user15026

I don't want to get into an edit war, but in this case, I think the edit was a good one.

two bugs

I think the edit was totally reasonable

user15026

So I am going to roll it back. Please don't make me have to lock things and take them to meta over something this minor.

user15026

May 3, 2016 17:23

Remember, at the end of the day, we want good quality stuff that people can find and not just HNQ bait (as fun as that rep bump can be)

Rainbolt

Just curious, but if you did take it to meta, would you lock it with the title you like better, or the title the OP prefers?

Fluttershy

@AshleyNunn Click bait titles are a meme here, unless a rule has changed somewhere. So I don't really see the issue.

Dragonrage

i mean yea its somewhat clickbaity, but it still describes the problem fairly accurately

and we've had a lot more clickbaity and less descriptive titles before

and they have been left alone

two bugs

@Dragonrage I don't think it makes it clear enough for anyone searching

Titles are supposed to be the public face of the question

Fluttershy

98

A: The Memes of Arqade and its Chat

Meme: Questions that are absurd without context Originator: Various Cultural Height: As Often as Possible Background: How can I get my wife to stop nagging about a few murders? fable-3 Can I pass out from excessive drinking? bioshock How can I tell if a corpse is safe to eat? nethack How c...

two bugs

May 3, 2016 17:26

If I have a question about Reinhardt I'm not going to be searching "running into things"

badp

@Fluttershy right. But I'd someone edits them to something not baity, why rollback?

Dragonrage

@twobugs this reasoning seems to only be applied when we feel like it

two bugs

@Fluttershy We've also ruled pretty consistently that titles should still be accurate

user15026

@Fluttershy shrugs Just because we've reached memetic status, doesn't mean that undoing edits that try to improve content is the rule of thumb.

two bugs

@Dragonrage Can you list an example otherwise?

Fluttershy

May 3, 2016 17:27

@badp what about not editing if the asker has shown that they don't want it edited?

Rainbolt

I thought the rule of thumb in an edit war was to respect the OP's preference.

Dragonrage

let me go find one. there was one a bit awhile ago

user15026

@Dragonrage As with anything on a community this large, we aren't always going to catch every example contrary to the rule

Fluttershy

@AshleyNunn No, but undoing them against the will of the asker kinda goes against what we try to do.

user15026

We try, but we're kinda all human meat people who sometimes suck at things

two bugs

May 3, 2016 17:28

I'm not aware of even a single ruling of "We are going to stick with the funny title rather than an accurate title"

Fluttershy

98

A: The Memes of Arqade and its Chat

Meme: Questions that are absurd without context Originator: Various Cultural Height: As Often as Possible Background: How can I get my wife to stop nagging about a few murders? fable-3 Can I pass out from excessive drinking? bioshock How can I tell if a corpse is safe to eat? nethack How c...

SaintWacko

Yeah, funny titles are fine, so long as they're also a good title

Andrew T.

Is there something that can be done to this question about Terraria? Except the highest-voted answer, the rest are downvoted. Should it be closed instead? Deleted?

badp

@Fluttershy good question, seldom answered by a straight rollback

two bugs

@Fluttershy Not really applicable, and I already responded to this

user15026

May 3, 2016 17:28

In this case, I don't think the question title is all that clear based on the body.

SaintWacko

Woooooo!

20k!

SO MUCH POWER

user15026

@SaintWacko Congrats!

Fluttershy

@twobugs I'm not sure how it isn't applicable, or how your previous response relates. The title didn't make the question inaccurate.

user15026

@Fluttershy It didn't, but it doesn't really make it clear, either.

Fluttershy

Nor did it make it unclear, imo.

user15026

May 3, 2016 17:30

@Fluttershy I disagree.

Ullallulloo

@AndrewT. It's not really a complex question, but I'd say it's on-topic fine. We don't judge questions based on the answers, and it has a good answer. It also got protected a while ago to stop more low-quality answer.

Fluttershy

@AshleyNunn And that's fine, but the rule shouldn't be applied inconsistently, as it seems to have been here.

ChromeSlice

theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/05/…

user15026

@AndrewT. It's protected, so it's alright i think

ChromeSlice

huh

That's... interesting

cc @fredley

(he's british right?)

Andrew T.

May 3, 2016 17:31

Well, okay, just curious. Thanks.

user15026

@AndrewT. No problem :) Thanks for bringing it up. :)

Dragonrage

i mean this is kind of clickbaity in the same way

Lazers 2.0

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Q: What is the quickest way to level up?

Are there specific heroes I should be playing? Is there a specific game mode I should focus on in order to level up quickly? I'd love to get that gold flair on my profile as soon as possible, and I'd like to understand the most efficient and simple way to level up.

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two bugs

@Dragonrage And it came under fire for the same reason

Dragonrage

@twobugs it was also left as clickbaity

two bugs

May 3, 2016 17:34

@Fluttershy Lot's of questions exist simply for historic reason at this point. A lot of those fall under it

@Dragonrage But it's more accurate and specific than "How do I not run into stuff?"

user15026

All I was trying to do was make one question clearer because as it stood, the title didn't seem to relate as well to the body as it could have.

user15026

I regret touching it, because now it apparently means I have to defend against every single clickbait title ever.

badp

I agree with @AshleyNunn, funny question titles can be funny, but this title was trying too hard, and the question suffered for it

user15026

If you feel the chicken one could be clearer, edit it to make it so.

badp

The new title should stand

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