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Q: Preparing for patent issues with Ubuntu for phone?

Considering that the mobile area is quite litigated because of patents, how is Canonical preparing to deal with that when introducing Ubuntu for phones? Notice that Google didn't give it much importance at first and it and its partners have had lots of issues with them. Google is now catching u...

application-development mobile

@iSeth blech. not accepting bad answers. :P

umm can we answer that?

@jrg you have some good ones I saw :P

@iSeth yeah, mostly ones that I wrote. :P

shrug

there, got it to 95%. happy? ;)

5:13 PM

oh, I was fine with you having 80%... :P

lot better though.

ok, 96%. ;)

@jrg can you sudo genprof firefox?

hey @MarcoCeppi

howdy

how is the day?

5:15 PM

@iSeth what package do i need to get that command?

@jrg that's the point.

I don't know.

Its supposed to come with Apparmor iirc

sudo aa-genprof firefox

apparmor? shutting down systems

part of the apparmor-utils package from what i can tell.

I get aa-genprof command not found

5:16 PM

Anyway, good night :)

Night @jokerdino!

@iSeth sudo apt-get install apparmor-profiles apparmor-utils

@jokerdino night!

oh my word!

I thought I had all that O_O

heh. :P

sigh

5:18 PM

for what it's worth, genprof doesn't work. aa-genprof does

right.

so I did find an error in Ubuntu Unleashed!

hah!

xkcd.com/1157 < this. totally this.

@iSeth 12.04 or 12.10?

i suspect he wrote the book for 12.04.

that's correct and true.

:(

@jrg that's funny.

You not well?

5:50 PM

@iSeth oh, i'm fine.

but i was recovering from the flu thingy last week.

6:04 PM

@gertvdijk i've run into situations where you need to reboot a machine regularly. Proprietary software that gets a bad memory leak after ~30 hours of uptime, things like that. — jrg 5 hours ago

@jrg What about restarting the offensive application rather than restarting the whole server? Really...

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6:49 PM

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Q: Reputation points documentation

Is there some documentation that tells exactly how you get reputation points on askubuntu? I have been here one day and I have 23 reputation points but I have no idea how I got them and I can not find any documentation on the site.

user image

this is a NEW model of USB flash drives by Kingston... what the..

7:17 PM

random repositories (non-Ubuntu) adding to your system and wondering why everything is screwed up... oh my...

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Q: Problem Can't change download server only returns to main server

i have some problem. i can't change Download Server on ubuntu. i Have Only US Server or Main Server. why? cause i can't update ubuntu cause 404 not found Please help me! Greetz Erazer -edit, Yes i tried to Ping its work,there are Problem with Server,but i have internet connection. i found it o...

7:27 PM

I''ve a delicate problem that any crash could leave my system hard damaged as I can't login t any bash anymore.

I fiddled around with my .bash_profile and export PATH and after upon restarting Terminal it just shows a blank screen.

No yoshi@local ~;

same on tty sesion :C

(wrting a question atm but I like to get help asap) ~sorry for interrupting :/

@yoshi did you fiddle with the bash config from your regular user account or from root?

normal user

I have them open in cate atm

I've added export PATH=$PATH:/home/yoshi/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools

have you tried rebooting into recovery mode and undoing your actions?

recovery mode wouldn't suffer form wrong login profiles?

recovery mode is single user mode afaik. (=root)

7:33 PM

i'll give it a shot

I don't get why 2 users have downvoted my question on "What is Apparmor?" I really don't get it...

@iSeth apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor apparmor

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Hu, wasn't as bad as expected. I could reboot in normal mode though the problem still exists.

@gertvdijk thanks for reminding of the good ol' recovery mode :*

@Alvar about Apparmor... I HATE THE SYNTAX. Who on earth uses # for actual syntaxis rather than comments... This cost me like 4 hours a few weeks ago...

@gertvdijk what?! syntax?!?!

apparmor configuration files

7:45 PM

@gertvdijk aha, never read them, so have no idea what they look like.

We really should have a simple "AskUbuntu system information gathering" application! See this horrible example... askubuntu.com/questions/237432/…

@gertvdijk those, I followed this thing and now it's slower, bla bla bla.. my new update feels slower bla bla, too many are the same, should be a generic What can I try to make things faster question.

@Alvar maybe. I think we can gain a lot more by a simple application that uploads all system information to some pastie-like website instructs the OP to link this in the Q.

something like boot-repair

@gertvdijk hmm, that would actually be quite nice. "run this application it will give us all the info we want", nice. Could it work?

depends. wireless/network issues won't unless we provide a USB-transfer-file option in it.

and a single static deb to install

I will post a metaQ on this later

7:55 PM

@gertvdijk well if someone could make such a program then it sounds like a good idea, unless it's just a dream....

@Alvar this doesn't have to be a dream. simple single-DEB-installable package or even single-static-build executable. UI consists of 3 buttons. 1) "Yes, run!", 2) "upload to pastie" (greyed out when no internet connection), 3) save file to flash drive

okay maybe a little bit more, but you get the point

yeah

sounds really good.

@gertvdijk we should make clear that it only takes hardware and software information, nothing about the user or such. To you and me this is obvious, but to a new user it isn't.

@Alvar yup, of course. a little button "What does this application do?" or something. these are things we can discuss in meta. maybe even UI functional design via voting. :)

I'll be happy to create this in PySide/QML/QtDesigner. Maybe PyGTK, but I'm not fond of GTK.

@gertvdijk the number one issue as I see it, who can and will develop this? I can't, know nothing about programming in Linux. but who would like to do this? it's a great idea as I see it.

This is no issue in programming. the user experience is #1 prio here for such a tool.

it's got to be DEAD SIMPLE

8:04 PM

@gertvdijk yeah.

collect info, upload device/pastebin, quit, about

that should be it on the user side

let me create a metaQ later. but first, we have to make sure no such an app exists yet...

@Alvar exactly.

@gertvdijk would be quite pointless to do all the work when it already exist.. haha

@Alvar yup. maybe just another .ui file and done if it exists in a UI we just don't like.

@gertvdijk exactly

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Q: Unable to login to bash after editing .bash_profile

I've fiddled around with my .profile and .bash_profile to speed up some stuff: PATH=$PATH:/home/yoshi/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools First I appended the line to my .profile and perfect. Then I've read the comments: > # This file is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login ...

12.04 unity bash gnome-terminal

-_-°

I'm not sure if educational purposes would worth the existence of it. Could maybe add how I solved it via echoing in .profile after every if-call

8:49 PM

@gertvdijk doesn't work. i haven't had success with it. for what it's worth, it's almost an embedded system, so it's a 2 minute downtime in the middle of the night.

@gertvdijk drools 1TB USB stick.

@Alvar it could feature some very basic features (hidden), like "hey, it looks like you have BCM4311 broadcom wireless adapter and you're not connected to the internet. I think this issue is already addressed on AskUbuntu... read http://... first on PC with internet"

@Alvar but it should not be a general system diagnostics tool though

Snag your copy of CS2 while it lasts

@gertvdijk so you want to divide it into, network, gpu, etc

@Alvar maybe just some heuristics that may help the user. "hey, it looks like you have a network adapter not claimed by any driver, is your question about this? I've ticked the "Network information" box for you" or "hey, it looks like 30 packages on your system are marked broken. would you like to include the package information in the report?"

@gertvdijk that sounds like a better idea, sort out the information you want instead of EVERYTHING...

8:54 PM

@Alvar yes, obviously.

:)

start a meta post about it?

yes I will. later.

:)

have tons of other stuff to do and it's also a bit vague in my head still.

need an internal brainstorm first.

yeah... I'm studying java at the moment :P

8:56 PM

@Alvar Ugh. I feel sorry.

haha Java is awesome! ;)

I can't disagree more.

java is pretty good, when used with the jruby wrapper.

> Server not working :(

I hate these titles.

sigh

@iSeth try the direct link they have in the blog post.

9:03 PM

@jrg i did it's not working :/

http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/magic/creativesuite/CS2_EOL/PHSP/PhSp_CS2_E‌nglish.exe

you're right. it's a 404 now...

or not. caching server issues?

@jrg try what?

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Q: Server not working

I have installed Ubuntu Server 12.04LTS on my laptop via VirtualBox. I have installed LAMP,OpenSSH, Mail server. As I logged in, I ran this command ifconfig It gave me the inet address as 192.168.0.3 So, this should be the address through which I should be able to access the server right? But I...

12.04 webserver

ohhh. i thought it was a different thing. nevermind.

That's what I'm talking about

@jrg download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/magic/creativesuite/CS2_EOL/PHSP/…

9:12 PM

that link works here.

there was a space in E nglish in the end

wrong in link

i'm still downloading PS, AI, Indesign and Adobe Pro.

will take about 2 hours at the rate things are going.

ok

is dreamweaver in this package

no. this is pre-dreamweaver.

not sure why you'd want to use use dreamweaver anyway.

@jrg cause some people like it! I'm a bit different! ;)

9:21 PM

@jrg sudo aa-genprof firefox works now. I can't believe I didn't have those packages.

anyways old versions of dreamweaver are so not friendly to css.

@mateo_salta true

@jrg serial number?????!!!!

@Alvar linked in that blog post.

@jrg thx <3 :)

@gertvdijk, that link is not helpful in this case (no real answer there) — guntbert 1 min ago

what did I miss here?

oh, I must have linked the wrong Q&A in my previous comment.... hmm.

9:34 PM

hey, wait. CS2 for free??!

:O

@iSeth dude, wake up! ;)

I'm trying, I'm trying.

where is the right link though?

it says temp. unavailable

wait a sec,

> Hello everyone. My apologies but I'm as it appears Adobe is not giving away the CS2 Suite for free:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4974662

So as it turns out you can only legally install if you have a valid copy.

Oops.

Noel

@iSeth all servers are down! (this is a representation of how weak adobe rally are! ;))

can anyone account for that? ^^

@iSeth I got a copy but I need a serial number

9:38 PM

@Alvar forums.adobe.com/message/4974662

Back when SfL went out someone here mentioned Valve did some weird unneccessary stuff about packaging ... Well, guess this is why: escapistmagazine.com/news/view/121373

Looks like Adobe is denying giving it away for free :/

@iSeth haha pranked! ;)

@iSeth I wonder who's gonna pull the plug now, though. Adobe, Media or noone?

@Alvar What do you mean?

@FEichinger No one. That's the way it works in the US.

9:43 PM

@iSeth nvm,

@iSeth And in that case it's very likely to turn into a worse PR disaster for Adobe than actively pulling the plug.

@FEichinger Yup. Again, the way it works over here. shrug

Well, if adobe says its illegal I'm not gonna do it.

I don't know why they are denying it, It is good publicity, especially when everyone that needs to use it realizes they need to upgrade.

Anyone who would pay them has CS3+ anyway.

I have the master suite for 3 and 4

9:49 PM

@FEichinger Not people with old hardware who cannot run CS3+ as well. Anyway, I think this Forbes article explains the situation accurately (though I cannot be totally sure). The issue is that the download requires a valid, purchase serial number. I'm not sure what the legal status of downloading it without a serial number is ...but without one, you can't install it.

The thing is: What professional designer doesn't have sufficient hardware?

Thanks @EliahKagan.

Anyways ... Anyone seen this paper which is today's reason as to why I still love Munich?

anyways they shutdown the activation servers, and released versions that don't try to activate, as well as releasing general serials. I would have suggested cutting off old users before this, because they shot themselves in the foot for enforcing

@FEichinger can we use that for CPU cooling below 0°K? Overclockers watch out for this! :D

10:04 PM

@Takkat Well, since -°K is actually hotter, that wouldn't really work.

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@Takkat But super-efficient engines actually sound viable.

Too bad. I was already dreaming of running my Athlon at Exa Hz values... ;)

What sounds more reasonable in terms of CPU cooling though, would be using a negative system and a positive one in conjunction to reach nearly 0°K.

yeah sounds like a nice concept --> Zero-Heat processors.

Hello! Can anybody helps me with Cinnamon applet development?

That depends on what kind of help you need.

10:19 PM

i look for a good full documentation of Applet, PopupMenu and others js, that used for applet development.

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Q: How do I write applets for Cinnamon?

I'm very exciting with cinnamon and want to write applet for it. How can i do this? Where can i search info about it? (search in google, maybe, but i didn't find examples) Thanks for help!

desktop-environments applet cinnamon

Have you seen that?

oh wait.

you asked it.

nv mind

@iSeth yeah, thanks, good question/good answers. But after several hours i understand, that Cinnamon Wiki not enough for my needs. (not full documented, many features hidden in applets/or js with this framework. And not enough comments in code :)

yeah, I understand.

10:44 PM

@iSeth maybe you know good one?

@loldop I've been looking around, but I can't find anything.

is'nt cinnamon just a window manager/shell?

other then tray applets does it even have a notion of what a applet is?

@strings i ask for help at gnome-shell irc, but guys said to me, that cinnamon applets are different from gnome-shell applets

11:02 PM

I followed the link, and yes seems it has applets. nice the meta data is in json. but java bleh. but that just personal taste I guess .

java script I ment.

@strings
i don't like javascript, but it is one of the fundamental languages, so it's just a language to be in my pocket

I'm use to static typed languages. so might be why I dont get along with javascript :P

which languages?:)

C, go are my main ones.

for scripting I mainly use bash. obviously not the best choice for applets. actually javascript is a good choice I guess, just the whole callback thing is annoying with javascript.

New Beta tracks on Codecademy.

11:12 PM

@strings yeah, callbacks are not good enough in js. I prefer to use Perl as scripting. It's time for sleep. Bye!

have a good sleep. goodluck with your applet.

11:41 PM

Hi!

Hi!

Sup?

not much. learning some code, studying aa-genprof.

cool

I have to get back into coding - have two (possibly 3) websites to build :)

Awesome!

for you or someone else?

11:43 PM

I need to get back into javascript, brush up on HTML5, and possibly relearn PHP

@iSeth someone else :)

w3schools.com

that place is still the best.

dirty.

@Alvar tada. meta.askubuntu.com/q/5722/88802

@iSeth @jrg would kill you if he saw that :D

@RolandiXor codecademy.com/learn JavaScript, jQuery and basic HTML/CSS

@RolandiXor I'm not afraid of the truth.

if its still the best, it is. period.

11:45 PM

@iSeth codeacademy rocks!

I agree though that w3cschools is a good resource, but I've heard a lot of bad things about it

@RolandiXor yeah, it it supposed to be bad. Still has good information though.

@RolandiXor I love this book as well.

Your library might have it.

@iSeth wow that was quick voting and commening! Did you even have time to read it?

@gertvdijk I read 90% of the question and answer.

I am a quick reader ;)

Hey guys, can you help me with something? I've got a problem while updating the system with `apt-get update` after adding the Cinnamon repository to the apt with `add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable`, the problem I'm having is like an error during the update, here it is `Err http://br.archive.ubuntu.com quantal Release.gpg
Something wicked happened resolving 'br.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
Err http://br.archive.ubuntu.com quantal-updates Release.gpg

@Zignd You just added the Cinnamon repo?

and you ran sudo apt-get update afterword?

11:56 PM

@iSeth yes

after running apt-get update I see the error.

@Zignd can you ping that host?

The page times out for me.

my guess is no, try ping archive.ubuntu.com see if that works

should I use ping [url]?

@Zignd yes.

11:58 PM

that host is down IMO

change your mirror

@strings yeah, ping times out too.

:s/br.//g

:P

not tested

Not working for me too

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