Hub of Reason

anthony137

8:08 PM

I was guessing it was because of the user image you picked.

Jason Plank

@Dogmafrog I'm not trying to burn you, but it didn't raise any flags to you after several rollbacks?

Dogmafrog

haha, it could be. although that would be nice to hear also.

I deleted the pic myself, and it's still on my profile.

no flags after the rollbacks jason.

Fabian

@Dogmafrog I've removed the picture in your profile, profanity is not allowed there.

Dogmafrog

spock saying peace out bitches seems pretty calm. "Bitches" being a word commonly allowed on tv. but that's fine.

I would easily have removed it myself.

Jason Plank

@Dogmafrog I should have been clearer: not flags as in literal flags, I meant did you ever stop and consider what was going on/why your rollbacks were being reverted?

Fabian

8:13 PM

@Dogmafrog We have an international audience, we're just trying to avoid unnecessary problems.

Dogmafrog

sure, absolutely. and i specifically requested that if I couldn't have the question remain as asked, I wanted it deleted. as the author, don't i have the right? I even gave permission for someone else to repeat the question in their watered down form.

anthony137

reuters.com/article/2011/03/22/…

Fucking Capitalism! shakes fist

Dogmafrog

@fabian. I've been overseas quite a lot. most country's standards on "profanity" are much looser than in the US.

Fabian

@Dogmafrog I'm not exactly in the US myself. I'm not talking about my standard on obscenity.

Jason Plank

@Dogmafrog You actually don't have the right to control your content here. meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/13976/…

Fabian

8:16 PM

We're generally trying to avoid it, besides offending some people it can also cause us to be blocked by filter software.

Dogmafrog

@ jason. yea, I asked for the courtesy. However, if the engine gives me the option to use the rollback button, don't I have the right to exercise the use of the button?

Jason Plank

Well, yes, but that doesn't mean you should.

Fabian

Check on meta.gaming, I've been on the other side of a profanity debate myself.

Jason Plank

I mean, you have the right to false-flag things or post spam, but that doesn't mean you should.

Dogmafrog

@ fabian. I'm fine with that. if THAT was the reason for a suspension, that should have been clear. additionaly, the gravitar site has the option of ratings. If you don't want anythign but "G" rated pictures, enable that code. The pic was PG. "bitches" is a PG term. It's in PG movies, it wasn't addressed at a specific person, it's not hard core profanity.

anthony137

8:18 PM

Dogmafrog: Of course, on the flip side of that, the mods have a "Suspension" button...

Dogmafrog

So was my request to have the post deleted and repoened by another use unreasonable?

I have NO recourse, NO ownership of my own questions?

anthony137

I think so. I really don't understand your vehement objection to it.

Fabian

@Dogmafrog You agree to license them under the CC license when you post

Jason Plank

@Dogmafrog no, see Jeff's answer to the question I linked earlier

Dogmafrog

It's obvious that the question was closed and then altered to remove the terms "butt" and "poop" from the title (but not the body, which is weird).

Fabian

8:20 PM

There are other sites copying the whole StackOverflow content, and this is explicitly allowed by the license.

anthony137

Meh. I don't think ownership really comes into it. I don't think you're making a legal argument here.

Dogmafrog

Haha, i'm talking about copyright. I'm talking about personal preference and moderators using common sense

if a user requests something, unless it's completely unreasonable, why wouldn't you allow it. Why wasn't the question deleted at my request.

anthony137

Common sense and decency would, I think, be on the side of removing the words "poop" and "butt" from the question.

Jason Plank

Copyright is a legal issue, but as mentioned, you don't own the copyright to information that you post here.

Fabian

@Dogmafrog We generally respect the wishes of the author, but that changes once a question has high-rated answers. At that point you lose the ability to delete it yourself.

anthony137

8:22 PM

Which is just my way of pointing out that common sense and decency is a terrible foundation on which to base an argument.

Dogmafrog

sorry that was supposed to be i'm NOT talkign about copywrite

Jason Plank

@Dogmafrog ah ok

Dogmafrog

@anthony137 wow, really?

Fabian

At that point it pretty much belongs to the community

anthony137

As I say frequently, "Common sense isn't common and is only sometimes sense."

Dogmafrog

8:23 PM

mmm, but if I give a piece of art to a library, and the library decides to deface it with Nazi symbols, don't I have some moral right to object?

Fabian

@Dogmafrog Not if you licensed it under a CC license

Dogmafrog

if i give a question to the community, and it is changed in a way that I indicate is personally offensive, don't I have a moral right to complain?

anthony137

Object, yes. Revoke the gifting? No.

Yes, you have the right to complain.

Dogmafrog

so why were my objections deleted?

Fabian

@Dogmafrog I'm not talking about moral rights, but about the license the content here is put under

anthony137

8:25 PM

Your objections in comments in the question itself weren't the proper forum.

I believe the Meta question is still open.

Dogmafrog

Yea, but what I'm saying is that, as moderators, moderation is a part of the game. When I made my objection, there really weren't any highly rated answers to the question. If you just stick by the dogma of "well we have the right to do it, whatever the questioners opinion" is that really appropriate for a moderator?

I think multiple people have stated exactly that concern.

anthony137

Moderation is a judgement call.

There is no objective way to arrive at a decision.

What you're saying is that you don't like the judgement the moderators made. That's fair, and a reasonable concern.

But only rarely are judgements agreed upon by everyone.

Dogmafrog

As a rule of thumb, wouldn't it be appropriate to use the question's originators opinion as a more weighted one than others?

anthony137

Even if I were to accept your premise, which I am not certain I do, rules of thumb are not concrete restrictions. It sounds like you want concrete restrictions.

Dogmafrog

nope, a rule of thumb.

anthony137

8:28 PM

And what if the moderators said, "Ok, we did weight your opinion more heavily, and still came to the same decision."

Sklivvz

Hi @Dogmafrog - sorry for not sending the email, I sincerely thought the system would send it automatically (it does ask for a reason, etc.)

Fabian

@Dogmafrog It's one of the features of SE sites that many users can edit and improve questions, there is no final question ownership here.

Dogmafrog

I fully acknowledge the moderators rights to use anything I post here, the copywrite is very clear. I'm not going to post anythign here that's going to scar me forever. but i made my opinion clear, and I don't see a good reason why it wasn't taken into strong consideration.

anthony137

Do you know that it wasn't?

Jason Plank

@Dogmafrog Most the time, the author's opinion should weigh more, yes. But hypothetically, and as an extreme case to make my point, what if my opinion was that an ethnic slur was decent and tasteful to use prominently in a post?

Dogmafrog

8:30 PM

How could I know? no comment was posted, no meta formed by the moderator.

anthony137

So you're complaining about not having your opinion considered when you don't know that it wasn't.

Dogmafrog

@jason. obviously correct, I have no issue. It's a most of the time, rule of thumb. not a concrete rule

anthony137

And advocating for a 'new' rule of thumb which may, in fact, have been followed in this case anyway.

Fabian

There is a certain point, after which the question got enough interest from the community that the author can't just do anything with the question he wants.

Dogmafrog

@sklivvz. I can believe that, actually. but for such a drastic measure, lesson for next time to make sure.

Fabian

8:31 PM

The most prominent example is people deleting their questions after they were anwered

That is prohibited once upvoted answers are present, with good reason

Sklivvz

@Dogmafrog it was just a day to cool off. other users got deleted for similar reasons... not by me though

Dogmafrog

@fabian. I agree, I tested it with the einstein question just to see (not that i wanted it deleted) and it was blocked. but at the time, the poop question didn't have too many significant answers, none which had, at that point, been backed up by links.

Fabian

After some time the questions belong really to the community, they are valued by other people so I don't think the author should get the sole right to decide about them.

Dogmafrog

I asked the moderators to delete it and reopen it on their own. that doesn't seem like an excessive request, or even that problematic.

Sklivvz

@Dogmafrog what difference does it make?

Ustice

8:33 PM

I actually think that as soon as you post it, it is community property.

Doubly so, once someone answers or even comments on it.

Sklivvz

@Dogmafrog - listen a sec

Ustice

Since it is no longer just the work of the questioner.

Dogmafrog

@ustice there is an option for deletion on there. there is even a badge for it.

@sklivvz. ok

Ustice

Ya, I know.

anthony137

Well, I'd think the answerer has at least as much 'ownership' as the questioner. Possibly more, considering the amount of work that could go into a good answer.

Fabian

8:35 PM

@Dogmafrog You can't delete once there are upvoted answers

Sklivvz

I chose the course of action, and believe me - it was NOT a simple choice

Ustice

Generally, I think that while you get elevated privileges on questions that you write, they should be used only when the question needs to be withdrawn.

Generally when you realize that the question really is out of scope.

Dogmafrog

@ sklivvz. it was the wrong choice. you should have respected my opinion, as the poster. especially because I had been a good poster, plenty of upvotes, and I got you guys a nice juicy 10k question for your site. some discretion should have been made to delete and reopen. listen, it's not like I'm suing. I'm not crying in my pillow, whatever. but at a minimum my COMMENTS should have been kept (as ustice says, they're community property).

Sklivvz

I thought, and do think, that it's not a very good question. funny, but ultimately not very good. So I was fine when Joel S. closed it - it was clearly a provocative question from my point of view. But then, the community reopened it, and suggested the change in title. It was a very good example of our community at work (and in my opinion it was a good work). I would not have deleted the question at that point - it would have meant overriding the choice of 5 high rep users. Not very fair.

Dogmafrog

four, i was one. and I think if you opened a meta, all four would have sided with me.

i voted to open with the title as it stood.

Ustice

8:39 PM

0

Q: Can bacon actually help to remove splinters?

Some claim that bacon can help to remove splinters. Is there any good evidence that this makes sense? For example: susangaer.com: Splinters myhomeremedies.com: Home Remedies for Splinters

Dogmafrog

also, why change the title and not the body? haha it still has poop and butt in there! goofy.

Ustice

Oh FSM! That sounds like a GREAT way to go from a splinter to a nasty infection.

Fabian

@Dogmafrog The title was first changed by a community member, not a moderator

anthony137

That's a well-asked question.

Sklivvz

@Dogmafrog, believe it or not - I was trying to keep MY edits to a minimum. I simply put a suggested title in

anthony137

8:40 PM

Could maybe be a bit more specific on the why , but I like that he links to sources.

Dogmafrog

and the comments. why were they deleted, or not moved to a meta?

anthony137

Can comments be moved?

Dogmafrog

i would assume so. if not, copy paste still works.

Fabian

And just to be clear about the whole thing, rollback wars are against the rules. If several posters are reverting their edits again and again and again, flag for moderator attention.

Dogmafrog

i mean, if the whole argument is "now the community owns the posting" why were the comments deleted, didn't the community own those. no profanity. it wasn't even that long.

anthony137

8:42 PM

I'd actually be surprised if they can be moved (not via copy/paste). It'd take some interesting infrastructure.

Sklivvz

I knew it was still not good, so I made it CW. But basically - once @Dogmafrog has his mind on something, there's no discussion. You were ranting the whole day, saying you would close your account and abuse the reward system. In my opinion, you should ask yourself why you were not suspended before.

Dogmafrog

I wouldn't exactly call like 5 comments ranting. and is setting high bounties against the rules? i even asked if it was, nobody answered?

Sklivvz

no but "giving it to the guys that think like me" is definitely against the rules

Dogmafrog

is it?

Sklivvz

yes

Dogmafrog

8:44 PM

where?

Sklivvz

i need to find a link

Dogmafrog

i mean, don't people who award bounties pretty much give them to like minded people. who awards a bounty to a person who gave an answer that they don't agree with?

Fabian

@Dogmafrog It is certainly against the spirit of the bounty system, I'm not sure if anyone bothered to write something down against that,

Dogmafrog

well not deleting a post that a questioner asks to be deleted is clearly against the SPIRIT of the site. spirit doesn't seem to mean much here.

Sklivvz

> Stack Overflow already works well for smaller, simpler questions. We’re hoping the new question bounty will improve answer quality on those tougher questions that aren’t so easy to answer. But they do require a bigger commitment from both the asker and the answerer — you must be willing to slice off a piece of your own reputation and bestow it upon the person who is best able to answer your question

Stack Overflow Blog: Reputation Bounty for Unanswered Questions

Posted by Jeff Atwood on January 27th, 2009

Do you feel like your Stack Overflow questions just aren’t getting the answers they deserve?

If so, you’re not alone. As Corey Trager noted in a blog comment:

Speaking for myself, you don’t have to reward me for ASKING questions on Stackoverflow: Getting an answer is enough of a reward in itself. Just do whatever you can to keep the answer-ers motivated.

We are now rolling out the long awaited bounty feature tonight, and it’s designed to do just that: motivate answerers. …

Fabian

8:48 PM

@Dogmafrog No, it isn't. Deleting content that is useful for others is not appropriate here, even if you are the question asker

Sklivvz

@Dogmafrog you are splitting hairs. i told you clearly why i didn't - i am not going over that again

Fabian

See the meta topics about restricting the deletion rights of authors about that.

Dogmafrog

haha but you guys are playing it both ways. you're like "we didn't like the question and wanted it closed" but then you're like "we can't delete it, it's useful" and "but the comments, those we can delete".

@sklivvz is there a specific portiont that says I can't give away big portions of my rep? also, i'd direct you to this comment:

anthony137

That's consistent.

Dogmafrog

"Bounties, that's all. 500 PT bounty on my 10,000 view Einstein question (have to wait 24 hrs to award). Then anothe few hundred on some other question, mine or else wise, that ought to do it. Users in the lead for einstein, you've got about 3/4 a day to write a better answer if you want the points. It might be disproportionate but I'm not going to throw them away :) " meta.skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/283/…

Fabian

8:51 PM

@Dogmafrog comments and questions are valued very differently here

anthony137

"We didn't like the question and wanted it closed. The community disagreed and re-opened it. So now we'll respect them and not delete it."

Fabian

If enough people flag comments as noise, spam, they are auto-deleted.

Sklivvz

@anthony137 exactly

Dogmafrog

was that the case in my comments?

flags, i mean?

anthony137

I don't know what your comments said, so I can't speak to that.

But it sounds like it was more a meta-comment.

Dogmafrog

8:53 PM

also, i think if you view the metas, people are pretty angry about comments being deleted. isn't THAT the community? shouldn't you listen to that?

Sklivvz

@Dogmafrog no idea - i only erased the obnoxious ones, because really we don't want arguments in the question pages. I am sure you understand that.

anthony137

If that is the case, then deleting it out of the question is appropriate, imho.

Some people are, sure. Others aren't.

And there, apparently, hard limits on comments. 20 for a post, 30 for a page.

there are

Dogmafrog

@anthony. my comments didn't even come close to that many

anthony137

Not to mention what seem to be good community guidelines on using them.

Sklivvz

@anthony137 those are not hard limits

anthony137

8:55 PM

Sure, but making the policy, "Don't delete comments" isn't fundamentally workable.

Sorry, recommended limits.

Dogmafrog

I think i had like 3-4 comments at most.

Fabian

@anthony137 There are no hard limits, but there are some inefficiencies after that, and >20 comments are automatically flagged by the community user.

anthony137

The point is that deleting comments is part of a moderators job. They're supposed to do that.

Dogmafrog

look, whatever on this one. you moderators need to write up your reasons and respond to the meta on my suspension as an answer, let the community up or down vote. but it seems to me, if the community is divided over something, all the more reason to tred lightly.

anthony137

As long as we don't mistake a few vocal individuals for the community, I would agree.

Dogmafrog

8:57 PM

@anthony. I'm not that vocal, really. this is, what, the 2nd or third time i've even chatted? don't have huge strings of comments, and I take most stuff to meta. I'd like to think i'm pretty calm.

all my requests seem pretty reasonable to me.

and it's not like I personally insulted any of the moderators.

anthony137

You're one of the most active individuals on the site.

And to be frank, you don't seem all that calm to me.

And while I agree you haven't directly insulted any of the moderators, I think you've made it clear you don't have much faith in their judgement.

Anyway, I've got a meeting to go to now. I'll be back later.

Dogmafrog

haha i'm opinionated, but I'm totally chill on my couch watching ST:TNG reruns. and yes, I have made it quite clear about that. I don't. others have also made it quite clear.

Sklivvz

@Dogmafrog we don't need to do anything. Especially we don't need to answer a flamebait on meta.

Dogmafrog

haha. you're right. you don't have to do anything. i think you owe me, because you suspended me without notice and then claimed the opposite, so at a minimum your post should require clarification. but you are your own man, do as you please. if you think that, despite multiple independent people creating metas to comment on the behavior, you don't need to respond - rock on with your bad self.

Sklivvz

@Dogmafrog the only thing i owe you is a sorry because of the email - even though it was in good faith - and i've offered my apologies here.

Dogmafrog

9:09 PM

I accepted your apology but still think you owe the community an answer. and because of your mistake, i think you owe me an answer. but that's what I think. that's how I roll. you clearly disagree, you have a different code of ethics.

Jason Plank

@Dogmafrog What are you hoping to achieve with your answer to the question on meta? I don't mean to be a jerk, but it's not really an answer to the question, and I find it a little too argumentative.

Meta tends to stretch the definition of answers, though.

Dogmafrog

the answer was the truth. they asked why i was suspened, i speculated as to why, and, because it was a part of the moderators answers earlier, i specifically waived my right to privacy in this specific case. why is that not on topic?

Sklivvz

@Dogmafrog: why are you quoting me out of context?

Dogmafrog

how is that out of context?

Sklivvz

you are such a provocateur

:-)

Dogmafrog

9:12 PM

in iran they call it "satan with two golden horns"

but feel free to add whatever context you think is missing. I'm a provacateur, but i do drive traffic :)

Sklivvz

but you are splitting the community on a very minor point. that's not the kind of behaviour we need or want here.

Jason Plank

@Dogmafrog But you specifically ask that a moderator respond to your answer with another answer, when there are already posts from two mods. It seems very much like a flame-bait, as @Sklivvz put it.

Dogmafrog

well if voting is the community's way of dealing with things, shouldn't they respond, and let the community vote on their behaviors?

Sklivvz

@Dogmafrog not on moderators. it's not a popularity context (actually, being a moderator means being insulted by immature people basically every day). moderators will always make someone happy and someone unhappy. it's part of the job

Jason Plank

I don't think we have a precedent for voting on moderator actions like that (correct me if someone knows of one), but we do vote on who the moderators should be.

Fabian

9:17 PM

@JasonPlank There will be elections at some point after the beta, if you disagree strongly with the moderators, you'll have to write the SE team.

Dogmafrog

@sklivvz. YOU split the community. I didn't ask the people to make those metas. I don't even known them. and if you don't respond, you're saying that as a moderator you're beyond the community or the need to address your actions. which is wrong. but again, in MY opinion. you're not obligated to do anything.

Sklivvz

@JasonPlank exactly, and @Dogmafrog is free to offer himself to do it

@Dogmafrog 2 moderators have answered. @Fabian is also speaking in my name and so is @Rebecca

Dogmafrog

but they were answered incorrectly.

bot said i got an email with a reason, and that there WAS a reason. I still haven't heard the reason.

anyway, it's fine. I have stuff to do. I request you leave my answer unmolested, and i request you answer, but do as you please, as always. my requests have had 0 effect on your behavior so far.

Sklivvz

@Dogmafrog we told you multiple times. edit war.

@Dogmafrog and I kindly request you to fix your behaviour, and your answer to be something constructive and not a provocation.

anthony137

To be fair, I've been following this conversation, and that wasn't entirely clear to me until just now.

Dogmafrog

9:23 PM

@anthony. thanks.

I know you don't agree, but thanks for the impartial

Jason Plank

@Dogmafrog I don't blame you for not knowing, but I guess I assume most people here are at least familiar with wiki concepts that overlap SE concepts, i.e. edit wars, etc.

Dogmafrog

yea, i'm familiar. i just didn't realize that it would happen on my own question.

after explicitly saying i didn't want the edit, and prefered a delete.

Jason Plank

I don't blame you as much as I blame the lack of warning. Not to say I blame @Sklivvz or any of the other mods-- some of them are new, and we're inevitably going to see some toes stepped on as we work things out in beta anyway.

Dogmafrog

and there is precidence for closing a question at user request, from a moderator: @ meta.skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/206/… : "We had a meta topic about the evolution and medicine question, the closing of the question happened at the request of the author. We also had a meta topic about the aliens question. – Fabian♦ Mar 13 at 15:48"

that answer that was closed also had answers.,

so it's not just that i disagree, but that the mod are enforcing rules unevenly

Fabian

@Dogmafrog I voted to close that one as a user, I wasn't moderator at that time

The comment was meant to explain why so many users voted to close

Sklivvz

9:31 PM

@Dogmafrog I've edited your answer to include the whole conversation

via a link

Dogmafrog

yes, but you voted to close at the users request. why wouldn't you delete my post for the same reason.

Fabian

@Dogmafrog Closing and deleting are very different

And the situations are also different

Dogmafrog

@sklivvz, sounds good, but can you remove that highlight?

let the conversation stand, or else let me highlight my own portions.

Jason Plank

I think the highlight is just there because the link had to point to a specific chat entry

Sklivvz

@Dogmafrog what highlight? i've added "(Sklivvz) Edited with the permission of Dogmafrog: find the full transcript here."

Jason Plank

9:35 PM

If that's what you meant

Sklivvz

yes that's the link

Dogmafrog

@fabian. the motivations are ultimately the same, and as this site specifically says there is really supposed to be little diffference between mods and high rep users, I don't see how the context is significantly different.

@sklivvz. that's fine then.

Fabian

@Dogmafrog It's mostly the difference between closing and deleting

Borror0

@Dogmafrog The difference is user versus moderator. If, as an user, I decide to vote to close a question then four other members of the community have to agree to close the question. As a moderator, I can delete any question as I see fit, but that would be abusing my powers as a moderator. The community had already decided to reopen your question. I have no right to delete the question when they decided to keep it.

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Fabian

Deleting hits the people who already answered pretty hard

Dogmafrog

9:37 PM

at the time i requested, there were no significant posts.

answers, i mean.

@ borror. i was one of the poeple who voted to reopen. based on the original question. opening the question, editing it AFTERWARDS, and then claiming that the it was the will of the community is deceptive. I certainly didn't vote to open the question with the edit. those issues should have been made clear to the community.

I think that most of the people who voted to reopen would have accepted my wish to leave the question unedited or delete.

Jason Plank

Off-topic to the discussion, but I am so confused by the fact that @Dogmafrog's gravatar keeps changing based on message length.

I guess one is cached or something.

Borror0

@Dogmafrog If you want to delete the question, there is a procedure for that. Write a new question on meta asking the community to close your question. Once it's closed, as for deletion. There is no way to react like you did.

Fabian

@Dogmafrog We moderators made our position clear now, we won't discuss this further in chat, we just can't do that in this length for every issue that comes up. You can still raise the issued on meta of course.

Dogmafrog

:) as you wish.

different question. is it still allowed for me to post high bounties and award them?

sklivvz said it wasn't allowed, but I don't see where it's not.

Jason Plank

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Q: Is bounty rep-dump gaming? (subtitle: Pollyanna lottery!)

So I really don't need all this rep, and figured a fun (and fast) way to get rid of excess rep would be to put 500 point bounties on questions that I haven't accepted an answer for and then immediately accept the answer - thus turning the 15 point accept rep increase into a 565 rep increase for w...

discussion bounty accepted-answer gaming gaming-the-system

Dogmafrog

9:43 PM

i awarded the bounty on the einstein one, that was already out there. it was to the highest voted answer.

Jason Plank

Related but idk if it actually answers your question specifically, haven't read it all yet

Borror0

Yay! Mortarboard on MSO!

Dogmafrog

yep, related. seems to say it's not ideal, but not against the rules.

presuming that the bounty is given in good faith to the best answer.

so to the moderators - i intend to post another 500 pt bounty, which I will award to the best answer. if you object and are going to suspend my account, lemmie know now.

Jason Plank

@Borror0 nice

Fabian

@Dogmafrog You're going against the spirit of the bounty system, but you know that. We won't stop you from posting your bounties.

Borror0

10:12 PM

Something everyone here can enjoy: theonion.com/articles/actual-expert-too-boring-for-tv,1764

anthony137

@Borror0 Haha. Nice.

Greg

Greetings everyone

Sklivvz

This would be great for @Billare: theonion.com/articles/…

greetings, mortal

Borror0

Hi @Greg

@anthony137 You should edit out your answer to the papaya question to read as if it was never edited. ("EDIT:" in SE posts are a pet peeve of mine. :P)

Jason Plank

10:32 PM

@Borror0 I always like that because then I don't have to check the revision history

anthony137

@Borror0 I considered that, but I got a couple of upvotes before I edited it.

It didn't seem right, exactly, for me to start with "No evidence for this." which people agreed with, and then switch to "Maybe there's something to it."

Borror0

@anthony137 Unless you got below 5 upvotes, don't bother about them. they're just upvoting you because you wrote words and pressed "post answer." (that's the best way I can explain how some answers get any upvotes)

anthony137

Haha

shrugs I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but it's less work not to edit it.

Borror0

If they object, they can always withdraw their vote :P

anthony137

True.

Fine. I cave to peer pressure.

Borror0

10:44 PM

/flex ;)

anthony137

Edited to remove the Edit: :P

Would've liked to leave in the meta paragraph about single studies and conclusive evidence, but it didn't really fit.

Borror0

@Jason I am thinking making "Needs more blockquotes." one of my automated messages.

Jason Plank

@Borror0 haha

Moderator messages? Or something else?

Borror0

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