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1:15 AM
@Borror0 You might find this interesting, given your hybrid car answer. arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/03/…
 
Charging speed is not unlikely to be a factor, really. If HEVs and BEVs become common place, batteries won't be recharged by the user. Instead, you'll trade batteries in the process that would be analogous to buy gas right now: give old batteries, purchase new battery to replace.
 
Well, that's assuming the current charging speed limitations hold true.
If, as this article suggests, those limits can be surpassed... then it's not obvious to me that a quick-charge system akin to fueling an ICEV wouldn't be adopted.
 
Charging faster is much less energy efficient
 
Hmm.
Due to simple power dissipation you mean?
 
1:31 AM
ya
 
It's not obvious to me that these new quick-charge schemes don't simultaneously boost the efficiency of charging.
 
@anthony137 -- Think of it this way. The faster you accelerate your car, the less fuel efficient it is. This is due to the loss of energy in the transferal of energy from the car to the road. It's a poor analogy from a physics standpoint, but resistance (and thus loss to heat) is a bigger problem with you're pushing more power down a wire.
 
I understand how power dissipation works. I'm an electrical engineer. What I'm saying is that the quick-charge advances may decrease the equivalent charging resistance, so you get the same charging efficiency with greater current.
 
@anthony137 -- Hah, then i'm getting out of that talk as I know less than you and @Borror0 both!
 
I don't know that, however, since I don't understand the advances well enough.
Anyway, time for me to go home. Night folks
 
 
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3:35 AM
0
Q: why was dogmafrog suspended?

jjjHe was both an active user and one with lot of upvotes. I think the parties who suspended him should explain why.

 
 
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7:52 AM
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Q: Flagged comment as spam; nothing happens

SejanusI flagged this attempt at sarcasm by user Peter of The Corn as spam, because: It adds nothing to question (doesn't ask/help to clarify, etc) It doesn't help with answer It is essentially some sort of straw man / false generalization and is what they call a flame bait, thus inappropriate in Q/A ...

 
 
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10:03 AM
Hello
 
@SophieMonster Hi! Welcome to chat, where usually it's much more friendlier than now. :P
 
Fortunately, I don't judge a chat within the first moments I'm experiencing it. :)
 
@Sophie Luckily for us. :)
 
I actually only recently started being active on here, mostly because a friend asked me to answer a work-related question. Thus, I pretty much assumed that the entire experience would be new to me, including the chat room.
 
@Billare No. He used should, which is different from "must." Look, let's take this elsewhere.
 
10:08 AM
Also, I have Coke zero and good music, so I can take on anything.
 
@Fabian @Sklivvz Guys, how do you find time to write answers?
@Sophie So, how do you find the site?
 
I saw it mentioned on someone's blog, the first time, but I didn't actually do anything with that knowledge. Later, someone asked me to address questions specific to sexuality, but I didn't have time to. Then, today, someone linked to it, again, with a question that relates to things that are important to me and I was motivated to answer.
Then I got hooked and spent a lot of time going through questions and a significant amount of time answering one related to my education
Now, it is over four hours later. :D
 
LOL! Mission accomplished!
 
Did I just become a part of the borg?
 
10:16 AM
A Borg reference? I love you already.
 
:)
Well, I'm also sitting here in a red and black striped mini skirt and a batman t-shirt.
My batgirl mask is about three feet away, on a table
Near a box of other awesome costuming stuff.
And, on the wall, are posters with various sci-fi references.
<geek and nerd
I just realized that made me come across as one of those super-geeks who live and breathe comic books and sci fi and people believe in a stereotype that they never leave their rooms or bathe.
and they creepily wear various references to their subjects of affection, all the time, more so than the average person.
I guess pointing it out probably makes the impression worse
 
Sorry if I'm slow to respond. Trying to read your long answer on sex work and moderating at the same time.
 
No problem. I know I am not the center of the universe. :)
 
10:45 AM
0
Q: Why hasn't my profile migrated correctly?

user922I've signed up for a skeptics account with the same OpenID login as many other SE sites. I have received my bonus 100 rep, and my profile picture is correct, but my user name is user922 (it should be fredley), and no other profile information has migrated.

 
So, I'm wondering, does the reputation system used for this website create social norms between people with different types of reputation?
 
@SophieMonster Care to explain? I'm not sure I understand the question
 
Does it create a natural top-dog? Do people with higher reputation end up taking on power roles or do they see others as peers?
Is there a typical subordinate/leader pattern emerging because of the reputation system?
 
It doesn't really happen. Of course, if you have a lot of reputation, people will tend to read your really long answers to the end because you're known to be interesting but that's about it.
 
The reason I'm asking is that, unlike other information systems on the internet, there is not really a dictatorship set up, but you're not really directly voting for a leader, either.
 
10:56 AM
@SophieMonster Moderators are elected after a while
 
Instead, it is assumed that the person with the reputation, which is based on content, takes on higher roles in the chain.
How does that work?
 
@SophieMonster we do have elected moderators though (albeit not yet)
 
@SophieMonster The site is designed to reduce as much as possible the influence of indentity
 
The profiles offer identification.
I'm just curious about the social feel of the site, really.
How long have each of you been on the site?
Also, Borror, how long have you been a gamer?
 
10:59 AM
@SophieMonster 28 days, the site only exits since then
 
I think that's close to when I first was asked to join.
 
I've been a user of the original stackoverflow since the beginning, and of this site for 28 days :-)
 
@SophieMonster Teenage for gaming. And I have been using this site for 27 days (about three months with the platform itself).
 
How old are you now?
I'm a late-blooming gamer
 
11:05 AM
21
 
RPGs were forbidden by my mother
bbiab, work call
 
How so? Too geeky or work of the devil?
 
She thought it was evil
She thought D&D involved witchcraft
My sister got into playing "Magic" for a while and my mom found out and burned her cards.
Thousands of them.
My mom was a little crazy
 
May I ask your age, or would that be impolite?
 
Hm, the one comment I have is annoying because I feel like the person didn't pay attention to what I said in the comment ...
 
11:16 AM
The joys of the internets
 
They said they didn't like my response for lack of supporting evidence beyond anecdote, but I explained that there wasn't research in the area and so all I had was experience to draw on ....
so, wtf?
If there's no evidence, and I mention there is nothing ...
 
Trying to read that answer for the past hour
keep getting interrupted
 
sorry :)
And I'm 32
 
not by you
but by pretty much everythnig else
 
The lame thing is, the answer that doesn't really say much about the actual question has six upvotes. o.O
 
11:18 AM
heh, that happens
 
Yeah, and I'm a newb, so I suspect there's going to be a bias.
 
There usually isn't. In fact, Alain was a newb too when he posted his question. He got all his reputation from it (plus a 100 bonus for being active on at least another site in the Stack Exchange Network).
 
Nice.
 
Talking about answers, here's my latest:
2
A: Are most terrorists Muslim?

Borror0The answer to this question varies greatly, depending on country you are from. If you're from the Netherlands, Islamists represented 100% of the individuals suspected of terrorism each year from 2006 to 2009 (between 2 or 6 per year), except in 2007. On the other hand, if you are from France, ...

Still trying to find more data on the US, but the US gov't makes finding information painstakingly impossible
 
Is there data on convictions instead of arrested suspects?
That's a really tough question
I suspect it would also be influenced by who's doing the accusation.
erm, making the acusation
If I were you, I'd also note the percentage of the global population in each of the major religions, @Borror0, as the question, itself may be skewed by perspective and ignores overall population patterns.
(just a suggestion, you're already doing better with that question than I would)
 
11:30 AM
@SophieMonster Yes. Multi-tasking fail. Fixing that.
I just read the right columinist to be aware of most of the data (I <3 Dan Gardner) and the rest can be found by digging a little, when you know where to look!
 
Nice.
I probably would have gone OCD on the subject and read about it for a couple days before braving an answer.
 
@SophieMonster I do that most of the time. That is part of the reason why I have so few answers. Though, they are really, really well rated! ;)
 
sadly, my life is too busy for me to be able to do anything like that very often
Odds are, I'll probably just stick to things I'm already knowledgeable in, at least until my regular life slows down a bit
 
@SophieMonster It's usually best practice to give references to back any significant claims when you answer so that 1) we can verify the validity of the answer if skeptical (skeptics being skeptical, imagine!) and 2) so that we can read more on the topic if we're curious.
It's really more about #1, though
 
Hahahaha I suppose this is a silly question but how many people have asked questions on aliens?
 
11:42 AM
Understandable, @Borror0
I have references for most things.
 
It's the best way we found to maintain quality: since we're not all experts on all subject, the best way to make sure we're not upvoting soemthing wrong is to ask for the source
 
The sex industry stuff, though, there really isn't much out there on.
 
@SophieMonster I suppose you do. It's just that it might not be bvious if you're not told :)
@JamesDyson Check the alien tag:
 
Oh, I understand. I've written on scientific matters before and had to use lots of references.
Though, right now, most of my books are in boxes, so that makes it tougher.
On a side note: Do you know what is challenging? Eating only 200 calories of mozzarella sticks. I just had three, but I still want more and I can't have them. :(
 
@Borror0 Thanks
 
11:46 AM
The world is a cruel, cruel place.
 
I work out, so I rationalize that the cheese I eat is a good source of proteins
 
@Borror0 Hahahah Only 2 people....That suprises me!
 
@JamesDyson me too, in fact
Then again, we have had a question about whether eating oranges at night was lethal
 
I'm on a very restrictive diet because of diabetes, so even though I'm a dancer and exercise every day, I am still limited on calories
I only add calories previous to significant exercise or right before bed (to prevent a hypoglycemic problem when I'm asleep/just waking).
Give it time, @JamesDyson, I'm sure the popularity of the site will change that very soon.
 
Very true
I thought with the current world and age people would of been crazy about it as there are many loads of conspiracies out there
 
11:52 AM
Well, you could always write a question.
 
Wow, people are here
 
Haahahahha
 
Hello, @Casebash
 
I'm an Australian, so its probably to do with time zones
 
Very well I shall and be very sure to vist it!.....*Thinking cap on* must...think...of....idea!
 
11:53 AM
I'm a newbie, so I couldn't tell you if that's a factor or not.
I suspect that peak hours on here mimicks my peak working hours.
mimics
 
@Casebash So am I!!!!!!!!!
 
The site has a lot of traffic in Europe, so the peak hours are in the early morning American time
 
@JamesDyson if you write it, I will read it.
Ah, then I would be wrong
Peak hours are when I'm sleeping
 
@Casebash (Australian)
 
Depends on how late you work.
 
11:55 AM
I work until around 8 AM Pacific
Sometimes a little later.
Sometimes I stay logged in to the phone service, though, and just nap between calls since daytime calls are infrequent and the other girls are lazy.
so I can gain new clients.
 
The rush starts about 3 or 4 am EST
 
I would answer another Health related question, but I'm tired so I'm afraid it will be sucky.
Ah, so right before my bedtime
 
0
Q: Aliens - Have they actually ever been here?

James DysonHey guys, one question that seems to be jumbled around alot, Have Aliens actually ever been here? (Earth). I mean is there actual rock solid proof that they have? Many "landings" and "sightings" have been fake but what about ones that leave mysteries? Cheers James Dyson

Be sure to vist and answer!!!!
 
There's a pretty big chance that it will be close for being too broad
 
Very true how could I narrow it down?
 
12:04 PM
I'll read it in a moment
 
Do you have a particular event you would like us to look into?
 
@JamesDyson I've removed the salutations from the question as per our policy
 
That question seems unanswerable, actually, @James.
 
@Sklivvz What do you mean by - salutations?
 
If you said 'hello' in your post,
 
12:07 PM
@JamesDyson "Hey guys", "Thanks"
 
"Salutations" are greetings
 
aHH
Sorry
:S
@SophieMonster It could be answered in a manner of say evidence....
 
Not exactly
It could be answered if evidence existed
 
Really?
 
but if evidence doesn't exist ...
then it is another case of Russell's teapot
 
12:10 PM
Well thats the whole question .....Is there any evidence?
 
No problem. Here, politeness is voting on good content. Every upvote is an implicit “thank you”. :)
 
@JamesDyson If there were any solid evidence you would know. It wouldn't be a very minor thing
 
@JamesDyson, I guess the part that makes it less clear is the "what about the ones that leave mysteries"
that leaves it open
 
True...But who knows :P
 
(I'm almost as new as you are, so I'm not a great person to do this kind of critique, anyway)
 
12:13 PM
@SophieMonster Well the ones with a supposibly abuduction and medical operation
 
@SophieMonster No. you're right. It's likely to get closed, as is
 
Those aren't necessarily mysteries.
Nobody has proven a medical procedure happened on a spaceship.
 
@SophieMonster Ok ok ok ok ok ...I made a mistake close it delte it if you must
 
But there are events that people blame on aliens that are real mysteries, are unexplained, but are unlikely to have been aliens.
I don't think I can delete it.
I lack the power of others ehre
And I don't think the idea you have is bad, it just needs clarification and, perhaps, some specific references.
If you're wondering about a specific claim about a specific case.
 
It has been answered....
 
12:17 PM
The point here is that we cannot prove or disprove negatives
 
@SophieMonster Are you sure you're new around here? That's exactly that what he should do
 
if you say: did aliens land on the pyramids? and link a full claim, we can investigate that
but "did aliens land?" to answer we would need to see all possible claims, and then it wouldn't be enough
 
I'm new here, that doesn't mean I'm not new to understanding the art of getting answers. :)
 
:s....Hey I am sorry...I am going to have to go to some...Skeptic class or something......Hey not am I only new to the site but am well new to life (15 Years old)
 
I added a 'not' in there that didn't belong.
It is ok, James, it isn't personal. It is a learning experience.
You can try again.
 
12:21 PM
A second chance?! You are too kind :D
 
Start with this: When you think about aliens, what single event or story most impresses you? Is there a specific detail that stands out?
Why?
From there, do a little research on that detail.
See if there are explanations available.
If there are, think about the second most impressive thing.
 
@JamesDyson skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/how-to-ask if you're looking for some advice. :)
 
If there is no resonable explanation, ask.
or follow @Borror0's advice because he's more informed. :D
 
I am such a Noob.....:S
I am much better just sticking to technology
 
It's your first day. The opposite would be exceptional. ;)
 
12:24 PM
But you see thats my goal in life LD
*:D
 
well, gotta start somewhere
 
Hmmmm...
 
Challenging yourself helps your brain grow.
 
ahhhh...
 
Let me find the link to that
 
12:28 PM
@SophieMonster I am sorry I broke up your converstion...you may now forget me :)
 
I don't think you did
also, I can't find the article I was thinking of, but this is a good start on scienceblogs.com/cortex/2006/12/brain_exercise.php
related material
sorry, typing and talking on the phone is not my best talent
 
Bye guys...I don't think I will see you again so farwell....
 
Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars: news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110322/od_nm/us_venezuela_chavez_mars
 
:(
ok, Chavez made me LOL
 
My response was a very loud "QUOI?!?" when I read the title
 
12:39 PM
@Borror0 Very Interesting, and funny....Goodbye Borror0
 
My best friend goes to Argentina a often and he always comes back with great stories.
I have to go for a while, bedtime is in a couple hours and I have stuff to do.
Bye!
 
G'night
 
EKS
12:54 PM
@Borror0, why did you close my anwser? Would be nice with a reason
 
@EKS Your answer was converted to a comment, since it does not address the question.
I leave a comment for new users, but you have 1.3k reputation on Stack Overflow so I thought you would understand why I did that
 
EKS
Ok i did not see it was a comment. So its a software issue not a human issue :)
 
Ya. I really wish it would say "converted into a comment'" instead of "deleted"
 
EKS
exacly, and with 15+ comments it did not show mine. So technical issue
 
Writing a feature request on MSO right now
 
1:30 PM
@EKS if you are using chrome you may need to press ctrl-f5 to see changes
 
2:07 PM
So on the terrorist question. The problem I see in that sort of thing is that you get a given answer depending on how you ask the question.
if you count attacks, vs. attackers, vs. deaths, vs.... for instance
And that's before we get into what "terrorist" means. It never occured to me that french separatists would be considered "terrorist"
 
EKS
2:19 PM
Excacly my point @RussellSteen, so basicly by asking the question you kind of default get muslims as the worste pr default by western standard
 
That question is a mess. We've had to delete so many comments and answers on it. It's ridiculous.
 
EKS
yea that question is gonna bring the hatred out, but its also a good question
 
The underlying question is good, how it was asked, however, is not
He could have given a more thorough definition of terrorist, for example, and limited to a particular location (Canada, United States, Europe, Spain, etc).
 
EKS
exacly, this is why i posted my reply as a answer and not comment.
Trying to either force a more clear question, or at least make ppl reading aware over the issue that the question is kind of pointless without more context.
@Sklivvz im actualy using IE 9. :)
 
Yeah, I was going to try to fix it, but I wasn't really sure where to start.
Part of the problem to me is that reworking it now might invalidate some fairly good answers
 
EKS
2:31 PM
yea thats true, its to late to change the meaning of the question. If only there was a button to mark it as subjective to a western view :)
 
What a bunch of baloney.
So why were the latest crop of comments deleted?
Were they "abusive" or "off-topic"?
 
Stack Exchange is not a forum. It's a question and answer site. There were over 20 comments in there, most part of the same argument. We cleaned it up.
 
....excuse me? Not a forum? There was a significant amount of non-trivial information in there.
You let soft comments about "correlation is not causation" stand, and delete stuff talking about statistics, because you have favored answers.
"The biggest problems I see here is one of geographical perspective and how you define "terrorist"."
The comments were discussing why the OP's question was important and relevant.
Those were expressly on topic.
"Why do we need to know this"?
 
I left exactly two comments when I cleaned up: jjj's attempt at clarifying his intent and one post to provide context to jjj's comment. That's it. If there are any more comments, they were added after.
 
@Russell - the FAQ for skeptics says we can link to our websites in our answers. If that is not the case then please change the FAQ. Also, please feel free to remove my link if you think it is too promotional but I think my answer to the "are terrorists muslims" question is on-topic and relevant.
 
2:40 PM
The biggest problems I see here is one of geographical perspective and how you define "terrorist". If you ask someone from Northern Ireland, I suspect they might tell you that most terrorists, from their point of view, are Christian. If you ask one of these "terrorists" (from whatever background or fighting for whatever cause) or someone who has similar aims to them, they will probably tell you that they are not a terrorist at all.
Incisive!
 
That was added after I deleted everything
 
@Muro -- I personally think you are hijacking questions to promote your site. I've only seen two answers, and both were only marginally answering the question. You're free to disagree. I'm not a moderator, just stating my opinion.
 
They were not an argument.
If they were one, they are exactly the kind that should be in the comments.
No one was being rude.
No one was being insulting.
I worked hard to explain what classifiers were, and why one would me important than the other.
 
@Russell - OK. Like I said - I'm fine with deleting my link but I think my answers were relevant. For a site that claims to be for "free-thinkers" it seems very constrained to only those who think like the moderators.
 
But slap a "correlation is not causation durrrrr" comment or "let's apply skepticism! snarf" and the moderators smile.
 
2:43 PM
@Muro -- The FAQ also addresses frequency and density of self promotion.
Regarding thinking like the moderators... I agree often with @Borror0, I generally disagree with almost everything @Sklivvz says, and I'm pretty neutral/happy towards Fabian -- Like I said in my comment. I would love to hear what you have to say in answers when you are not self - promoting.
At least right now I don't see a lot of people being shut down for disagreeing with a moderator
 
@Russell - If I repost my answer to "are terrorists muslim" without my link, will it be deleted?
 
@Muro -- I'm not a mod. I don't know.
But I can say that if you leave the self promotion out, I won't flag you for self promotion.
Seems logical enough......
 
@ Russell - OK. Thanks. I'll give it a shot.
 
"StackExchange is not a forum..." but leave some wildly rambling remark about with generalities about "applying the scientific method" and "falsifiability", then you're voted up.
 
@Billare You are pushing it. Please stop.
 
EKS
2:47 PM
Muro, you have to backup statements
 
@Billare If you see a problem on the site, feel free to write a psot about it on meta
Don't just randomly attack moderators. It won't achieve anything.
 
@Sklivvz I suggest you read up on behavioral ecology.
@Sklivvz And reformat your answer.
 
@Muro -- better, yes. Great would be to provide links to examples of government terrorism (which I think is what you are claiming)
 
@RussellSteen @Russell - I guess I could use links to current news articles regarding activity in the Middle East. Or I could link to my blog entry....just kidding.
 
@Muro - Citing yourself doesn't count :P
 
EKS
2:55 PM
Yea it needs links, or its not for this site.
 
I would say that governments are not terror organization as intended in the question. It's obvious to me. So you are going to get downvotes, imho.
 
EKS
The problem is the question is written in a way thats gonna give the anwser Muslims
 
@Muro -- One thing that links do is help people understand what you are claiming and why. For instance, by reading your answer, I can't tell if you're trying to claim that all war is terrorism, or that specific governments are, or.... It's just not clear to me. Note here, I'm trying to help you improve your answer.
 
EKS
I would say the goal of the site is increase knowlage, so opening a few minds is ok
 
Ya. Some government commit many crimes but it's not terrorism within the context of the question. It's genocide, torture, etc. but not terrorism.
 
EKS
2:59 PM
true
but i would still argue that western religions scaring ppl to not use condoms is close to terrorisme
 
No, it isn't.
 
@EKS -- It's not terrorism until they beat people for using condoms :P
 
I explained to you why before: There is no intent to cause terror on Western religions part.
 
EKS
You can say their using the promise of heaven, il say they use the promise of hell. Bu its a different topic :)
 
@EKS -- Yes, but by that argument, anything which implies a downside or consequence for an action is terrorism -- which makes terrorism and overly broad and useless term. At which point a new term will be invented and we'll be having the same argument.
 
3:03 PM
Look at the mindless relativism is the last comment allowed to let stand:
Apparently intent and interpretation depends on geography!
 
@Billare -- huh?
 
How do people over the world agree what terrorism is?
 
EKS
@RussellSteen I would argue that anything that tries to use terror to make you do something is terrorisme.
@Billare they dont.
 
The biggest problems I see here is one of geographical perspective and how you define "terrorist". If you ask someone from Northern Ireland, I suspect they might tell you that most terrorists, from their point of view, are Christian. If you ask one of these "terrorists" (from whatever background or fighting for whatever cause) or someone who has similar aims to them, they will probably tell you that they are not a terrorist at all.
 
@RussellSteen He's upset because I didn't delete a comment that was added after I last visited the question
 
3:04 PM
I'm not upset that it's not deleted.
It can stand.
 
@EKS -- I understand what you're saying. To me, that definition is not terribly useful.
 
I'm upset that my comments were deleted.
Comments which were useful. Comments, that in my opinion, stood and the piffling interrogation "skeptics" here claim to use on every question.
When Ivo Flipse started speaking in too general terms, I tried to explain classifiers concretely.
 
EKS
Yea i think my english is not good enough to word it in a way that does not change the subject, my effort in ( skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/1164/… ) was to point out that question is very subjective to where come from.
 
There was a contrast there. I was never insult, nor rude.
People would come and judge for themselves.
 
EKS
@Billare Problem is that Stackexchange does not do a good job of discuttions in comments. Everything is focused on anwsers :)
 
3:07 PM
But again, as I claimed before, because many on this site have predetermined answer to predetermined questions, they let inflammatory and weak reasoning stand, as long it supports their preconceptions.
 
@Billare -- There are two separate issues here I think
 
@EKS They weren't "discussions." They weren't flippant, or not related to the question. People were curious "why is this question important?" "How can it be useful?" And the comments revolved around that question, which is imperative for all good questions.
 
The first relates to the comment system in general, in that the only way to express disapproval is through deletion -- there are no downvotes.
I think that's a general SE discussion.
More relevant to skeptics is the assertion that people pick a side, then find a way to attack the other "side". I think that is a relevant discussion, and it would be good to find some examples and start that in meta where it can stand and be discussed better.
 
Look at the answer right below mine for example.
 
@Billare I never disagreed. There were a few good comments in the 22 that I deleted (yes, 22). If comments were deleted, it's because this is not a forum. There was too much discussion (24 comments), so I trimmed it down to the essential.
 
3:09 PM
There are a ton of comments on it.
I personally have no problem with that, though I see massively weak reasoning all over that section.
However, notice how everyone is pushing towards "Muslims, yay!"
There isn't a single dissenting voice arguing that this information is valuable and useful.
I was only person doing so in the primary comments above.
 
EKS
Im actualy leaning towards the question should be closed, as its to subjective
 
@EKS -- I'd go for that if we left comments on how it could be non-subjective so that the author can fix.
 
Preconceptions, as I mentioned before. The studies, and the data are inarguable -- I've spoken to Tino before about this study, been reading him since 2006 -- so the next level s to kind shuffle it with weak reasoning so as to not deal with his implications.
 
@mods - is it even possible to un-delete something?
 
EKS
@RussellSteen Exacly, one big comment saying this is to subjective and close. And then someone can repost a better question
 
3:12 PM
Do you think, if Tino had actually not gone down to the RAND database, anyone would accept an offhand comment from me about Muslims being the majority of terrorists without sparking up a "cite-fest"?
 
@Billare -- Is the argument that "citation" is only used to criticize certain viewpoints?
 
@RussellSteen Questions and answers can be undeleted, comments cannot by moderators
 
No, it's that greater scrutiny towards dissenting views, and bizarre and unspecified rules, are used to guide discussions towards preconceived answers.
 
EKS
Be nice to the moderators, its a hard task they have taken
this is not gonna be the simplest site to moderate lets just say that :)
 
@EKS -- I was trying to in an indirect way ;)
 
3:16 PM
@RussellSteen Yes. We can undelete anything but comments (deleted comments are gone for good)
 
@Billare -- I see your point. I don't think the moderators are colluding to form that sort of environment. So we either have (in my view) A - bad habits, or B - a single bad moderator, or C - a community trend. In all three cases, I think the way to solve it is to come up with half a dozen examples supporting your position, and post them in Meta.
 
@RussellSteen This.
 
EKS
Gonna see make a question about aliens thats not subjective :)
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Q: Are there any proof of alien life

EKSAlien life being from another planet then earth. I know there has been has been found evidece pointing to simple life on Mars, but has any of the projects like SETI found anything that could point to intelligent life (Intelligent not having to mean something we can "speak" to) out there ?

comments before i head home ?
 
Too open-ended, I'm afraid. Let's put it this way: what would a negative answer 9no, there is no proof) would look like?
 
EKS
I think there is proof for 1 celled life?
Hoping to frame it as question that would be accepted, for all the alien are around us questions that are bound to come and be closed
But the question might not be formulated as a "skeptical question"
But i will accept you jugement without flamming you :) Anyways heading home
 
3:32 PM
Lies! Impossible! I revolt against your use of reason and common sense!!! Rawr!
 
@EKS I'm tempted to simply answer, "No."
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At least when it comes to SETI.
 
EKS
Yea i tried to forumlate it so it could be anwsered ( Inteligent life: no , Singel celled Yes (Liink)
 
Perhaps a better answer would be, "Not yet."
 
EKS
then no more alien questions for @Borror0
Because everyone will use search, and nobody will post a duplicate
 
The microbial life signs are not conclusive either.
 
EKS
3:34 PM
evil smile
@Ustice then that is the answer.
 
@EKS In what perfect world do you live in? It will be asked 23989 times and will have to be closed as a duplicate each time. :P
 
EKS
sadly yes, but perhaps i can remove a few % of them.
anyways off for 20min
 
There we go. It's a little better than "No."
 
3:56 PM
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Q: Should comments be respected and kept as much as possible?

TimEveryone came to this site with expectation, and if he/she leaves, there must be something disappointing here, albeit other positive things exist as well. In most cases, when one leaves a comment, it means he/she cares about this site and is willing to spend time to discuss about it. But what I ...

 
EKS
4:10 PM
@Ustice You have to love the comment by tim
 
@Borror0 The first answer's comment thread is now 20 comments, count it, 20 comments long. SNIP SNIP!
 
 
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5:26 PM
@Billare We actually have an automated warning system for those, but thanks for noticing
 
5:42 PM
Holy chatlog Batman.
 
 
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7:02 PM
Color me surprised. I've had to modify my Papaya answer. :/
 
7:41 PM
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Q: Can we trust what is written in the Bible?

KyleThe bible as we know today originally started as a hundred's (thousands?) of individual documents, letters, oral tales all written in a multitude of different languages and dialogues. These were all put together by a variety of different leaders/scholars/scribes and made into two books: the Old a...

Can we trust...
HA! We don't trust anything here.
 
7:54 PM
My answer on the suspension issue is in the meta. Moderators, on you.
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A: why was dogmafrog suspended?

DogmafrogTim, Russell, User, et al. I think you guys are correct, and that I was suspended for using the rollback option on the question repeatedly, and repeatedly requesting (through flag, comment, and chat) that the question be allowed to remain the same, or else be deleted. I can't think of what else...

 
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