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3:00 PM
You can’t ask superuser questions on SU.
That’s FITH.
You have to ask superuser questions on SF.
 
Those two sites are two giant black holes to me. I mean, those are huge communities with their own metas and hundreds of their own chatrooms and all, but for all I care, they might as well not exist. And I'm, like, almost their target audience.
 
Marketing failure? Focus failure?
I don’t get this guy:
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A: When is it OK to use foreign words and phrases in everyday English?

Robin MichaelIn an Italian Menu: S O U R D O U G H ... P I Z Z A Our pizzas are made to a traditional Artisan method using a slow rising sourdough which requires 24 to 48 hours to prove. We use only fresh fior di latte mozzarella, or if preferred mozzarella di bufala on request http://www.italian-kitc...

 
@tchrist I dunno. They threw a wall at me, and it didn't stick.
 
That’s his own answer to his own question.
I don’ think he’s a troll.
He just isn’t very good at this.
@sim was asking about it last night.
I’m out of delete votes, close votes, and flag votes: now what am I supposed to do, answer questions?
 
Ask questions! On Super User!
"I am a user, but not quite super. How do I become?"
 
3:05 PM
They’ll ban me.
I’ll have to use a sock.
 
You mean they don't ban socks?
Sounds like a great site after all.
 
Of course not.
That’s why they have hundreds of chatrooms.
I’m still sad that this couldn’t be turned into an answerable question:
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Q: "-ess" and "-ine"

Michael Hardy"Actress" and "hostess" are two of many instances of a suffix that is also used frequently in Italian, so I'd guess it has Latin origins. "Heroine" uses what seems to be a Germanic suffix. Are there any other instances of that suffix in English?

I got gypped.
 
@tchrist Third time's a charm?
 
Had a big hairy answer, and it got closed, and I got stippled out.
But fucking Barry gets to answer after things close, but I don’t.
I hate that.
@Rob Is that a 50k magical ability?
 
@tchrist I see no attempts so far; can you perhaps edit it into something more betterer? If you have a good answer, certainly you're in the best position to improve the question as well.
 
3:08 PM
I saw you mentioned that earlier. Does him being able to answer after it's closed gain him points?
 
@ЯegDwight Is that a conflict of interest? The new morality police have been all over me lately.
@SpareOom Yes, it does.
 
@tchrist Que?
 
@Robusto Being able to answer things after they’re closed.
 
The idea is to make the Internet a better place. If you have a question to match a great answer, that makes the Internet a better place. If you have a crap question with no answer, that's pointless.
 
Barrie answered something several minutes late the other day, and I get not a 1-second grace period on stuff I’d long ago started.
We thought maybe it is that Barrie has Javascript disabled or something.
 
3:10 PM
@tchrist I dunno. Never tried. Looking at that question now, I cannot answer it.
 
@DavidWallace said that if the answer was turning off Javascript, one has asked the wrong question.
I still have the window open where I started answering. Then it notified me that it was closed, before I could hit post. And now it won't let me.
 
That's all over my head. But I sympathize with you about a long ago started answer. I'm pretty slow at putting up answers to the point it's not usually worth trying.
 
Robusto's magical ability is to answer questions before they get posted. But you don't unlock it by getting to 50k; you get to 50k by having it.
 
I'm still a newbie.
 
Barrie seems to have some special grace accorded him.
Maybe it’s cause he’s from England.
Or has it in his username.
That must be it.
 
3:13 PM
What does that have to do with it?
lol Sorry, slow to warm up my brain.
 
@tchrist now stop being jelly and fix the question or at least help me fix it, then you can make the Internet a cozy place, with lava lamps and hookers.
 
@tchrist But your username should wield more power that just England.
 
@ЯegDwight I am already editing it!
 
ah gr8
 
Jan 10 at 23:12, by Robusto
@MattЭллен — Barrie England? Yeah, right. I don't believe that's his real name. I mean, why shouldn't the rest of us call ourselves names like Captain America and Anatole France and the like? Now, me, Robusto Hatsuyume is my real name.
 
3:18 PM
@Robusto I thought you were Sosume? No wait, that was Lawler.
 
@ЯegDwight Lamps and, er, lava hookers ... what is this, World of bloody Warcraft?
Mar 12 '11 at 1:37, by Robusto
Sosiouxme!
 
"Sosu" is Russian for "I suck". Thought I'd mention that.
 
@Robusto Quidquid bene dictum est ab ullo meum est. ―Seneca the Younger, Epistulae Morales, XVI, 7
 
Seneca was gay and his shit all retarded.
 
@Robusto Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt. ―St Jerome, In Ecclestiasten Commentarius, I
 
3:24 PM
Ditto.
 
@tchrist Tu es mendax.
Let us now review the anagrams of saints: stains, tin-ass, as nits, etc.
 
Etc. is not an anagram of saints.
 
@ЯegDwight You don't know that for sure.
 
Wasn't there some talk about not allowing foreign chat in here?
 
Who is sure and why would I do anything for him?
 
3:27 PM
@SpareOom It's all foreign chat in here. Wake up!
 
My opinion... this Latin chat is ok.
I can always use a translator.
 
@SpareOom well according to at least one answer on the main site, English is 99% Latin and 1% French with some Greek. So there goes.
 
"Chat" is by itself a French word, meaning "cat" — so your objection is, ipso facto, overruled.
 
Latine loquimur?
Bene est.
 
@Robusto prrrr.
 
3:28 PM
@ЯegDwight Fuck that.
 
@Robusto too late, it's deleted.
You'll have to find another partner.
 
De qua re loquamur?
 
A qua re um.
 
Quid nunc?
 
@Cerberus Zero — oh, wait ... you don't know about that.
 
3:29 PM
@Cerberus Fifty quid, thanks.
 
Blasphemia!
 
Blah blah blahsphemia.
 
Nullum non est numerus.
 
Satur ventur non studit libentur.
 
Alliterationem bonam insonui.
@ЯegDwight Studet?
Libenter?
 
3:32 PM
Back to faux Latin class for you.
 
Fine.
Then teach me pig Latin.
 
@Cerberus Nulli ugabimus, nulli differemus, justitiam.
 
Called Potjeslatijn in Dutch.
 
Potjes? Not Swijntjes?
 
@Cerberus Uckfay ouyay.
 
3:33 PM
Ugabimus?
@ЯegDwight No zwijntjes, alas.
What's ugabimus?
 
It's double the punch of ugaunimus.
 
What is it in German?
 
@Cerberus Civil War-era joke, from the looks of it.
 
And with modern languages it's Steenkolenengels.
Steenkool = coal.
 
Pig Latin (engl.; wörtlich: Schweine-Latein) bezeichnet eine Spielsprache, die im englischen Sprachraum verwendet wird. Sie wird vor allem von Kindern benutzt, aus Spaß am Spiel mit der Sprache oder als einfache Geheimsprache, mit der Informationen vor Erwachsenen oder anderen Kindern verborgen werden sollen. Umgekehrt wird es gelegentlich auch von Erwachsenen benutzt, um sensible Themen zu besprechen, ohne dass kleine Kinder mithören können. Pig Latin ähnelt den deutschen Spielsprachen Mattenenglisch und Kedelkloppersprook. Regeln Beginnt das Wort mit einem Konsonanten, so wird der in...
 
3:35 PM
What?
You use the English word?
 
I don't use any words. Ever.
What would you call something you don't have and don't get to play with? Like, oh say, a sputnik?
 
@Robusto I still don't get what ugabimus is supposed to mean: it's not in my dictionary?
@ЯegDwight Are you sure there is no name for this in German?
 
You asked, I answered. Wikipedia agreed. I have nothing to add.
 
Weird.
I guess Potjeslatijn may not be exactly the same as Pig Latin.
So what do you call very bad English in German?
 
Or Dog Latin.
Dog Latin is what you meant.
Dog Latin, Cod Latin, macaronic Latin, or mock Latin refers to the creation of a phrase or jargon in imitation of Latin, often by "translating" English words (or those of other languages) into Latin by conjugating or declining them as if they were Latin words. Unlike the similarly named language game Pig Latin (a form of playful spoken code), Dog Latin is more of a humorous device for invoking scholarly seriousness. Sometimes "dog Latin" can mean a poor-quality genuine attempt at writing in Latin. Dog Latin is used, inter alia, by art directors, advertising agencies, publishers, etc. to pr...
I’ve now done my best with this one:
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Q: Where do “‑ess” and “‑ine” suffixes come from?

Michael HardyEnglish has a lot of words that end in ‑ess or ‑esse, such as actress, hostess, huntress, finesse, duress, prowess, Lyonesse, and Westernesse. That looks like a suffix that is also used frequently in Italian, so I’d guess it has Latin origins. Are those all the same suffix? Heroine uses wh...

I would have rejected the edit if it had come up for my approval as being too far from the original.
 
3:39 PM
@tchrist that one does have a German name.
 
But since I didn’t require my own approval, I just did it anyway.
I didn’t know how else to fix it.
Sim is predatory.
 
@Cerberus I can only guess. Since the subject was "a Negro" perhaps it was a joke on ooga-booga?
 
Now post an answer.
 
@Cerb needs a better dictionary.
 
@Robusto Is that what negri were supposed to say in those days?
 
3:40 PM
Meanwhile I'll be meeting preparations for muting commies.
 
If so, that's probably it.
 
@Cerberus It has been used as a disparaging reference about African-American speech in the past, but I don't have any citations.
 
@Robusto Specifically in that form? So not ooloo-booloo or something?
Because we don't have a specific form for negro speech, just lots of possible variations.
Just as for Chinese.
Ching chang chong, or something.
 
Ooga Booga is an online multiplayer game for the Dreamcast, focusing on the combat of "Kahunas" using thrown shrunken heads, riding animals, staffs, or using spells. The storyline is that Ooga Booga is a volcano goddess that creates islands, and has leaders of tribes, the Kahunas, that battle for her favor. It has a distinct Polynesian style and tone, and has many multiplayer islands and characters which can be unlocked. It was one of the last online games for the Dreamcast. There are four basic Kahunas that the player can use - Hottie (balanced), Fatty (strong), Twitchy (fast), and Ho...
Well, hello.
I believe I remember it from old cartoons depicting African natives. Cannibals, usually.
 
Oh man. Dreamcast. Good times.
 
3:50 PM
@Robusto Cool.
 
Sweet. Just in time to join the talk about my shortcomings.
Amazing how that works.
 
You see your black heritage as a shortcoming?
Embrace it!
 
You misspelled her black Irish heritage.
 
Oh. I thought you were talking about my shortcomings.
 
*black Irish heritage
 
3:51 PM
That's what the sign says.
 
Ooga Booga still means something to you in your ancestral language?
Respect!
 
@KitFox We only talk about your shortcomings behind your back. Honest.
 
@Cerberus I speak Dreamcast fluently.
 
Never owned one.
Or touched one, I think.
But I believe they have emulators for Android.
 
@Robusto Thanks, I appreciate that.
 
3:53 PM
And lots of ROMs.
 
@KitFox It is the least we can do. No, really.
 
@KitFox Could you come to the blog room?
 
I can't believe those game companies won't launch an emulator of their own and put up all their old games on their website for € 1 each.
 
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Q: Difference between "astonished" and "amazed"

ThorstenWhat is the difference between astonished and amazed ?

Gen ref. If the difference between those two terms was gasoline, it wouldn't be enough to drive a pissant's go-kart around the inside of a Cheerio.
 
> New Android PC-On-A-Stick
This is what the Dreamcast games of the future will have us throw.
throws PC-On-A-Stick at people
 
3:59 PM
@Cerberus Can you get those deep-fried? Are they like corn dogs?
A corn dog is a hot dog sausage coated in a thick layer of cornmeal batter and deep fried in oil, although some are baked. Almost all corn dogs are served on wooden sticks, though some early versions had no stick. History There is some debate as to the exact origins of the corn dog; they appeared in some ways in the US by the 1920s, and were popularized nationally in the 1940s. A US patent filed in 1927, granted in 1929, for a Combined Dipping, Cooking, and Article Holding Apparatus, describes corn dogs, among other fried food impaled on a stick; it reads in part: In 300 Years of Kitc...
Well, which is it? Is it a hot dog-sausage or a hot-dog sausage? I'm confused.
 
It is far from a dog.
 
Looks like it would taste terrible.
 
@Robusto I have heard of this very American sausage.
Every time I read I can't believe it.
 
I wonder if they're still called "Saucisses Americaines* on the fast-food menus at Charles Degaulle. That silly Academie.
 
It is like the perfect blend of German and American cuisine: extremely heavy, and a sausage, and deep-fried.
Long live l'Académie!
 
4:02 PM
It's the "and a sausage" part that brings the German in.
 
And the heavy.
German food is always heavy on the stomach.
 
Well, we eat light too. Just like a black hole.
 
You mean you people eat like a black hole in general.
I.e. lots.
 
@Cerberus And yet some of us are able to retain our girlish figures.
 
Which is why international franchises like Bennetons have a bigger size "M" in your country, non?
Like whom?
 
4:04 PM
@Cerberus No, that's just the real reason why we measure in inches, not centimeters.
 
By the way, can you tell Hillary Clinton to return to her old hair style? It looked much better on her.
@Robusto Hah, I see.
It does explain the typical British Adidas track suits.
 
@Cerberus Amyway, Massachusetts is the third-leanest state in the U.S., beaten only by Colorado and Hawaii.
I'm guessing Texas is the fattest.
 
Hawaii? Seriously?
 
Congratulations?
 
No, Texas is 11th-fattest. Mississippi is fattest.
 
4:08 PM
 
I'm trying to find a picture of the typical lower-middle-class provincial Dutch mother.
 
When I came back from Japan, I was quite shocked with how big Americans were there in the Dallas airport particularly.
 
@ЯegDwight That's lovely.
 
^ A stereotypical Hawaiian where I come from.
Except wearing a flower skirt.
 
@ЯegDwight Yeah. For every one of those there are are about forty hot Maui babes. It balances out. Remember, this is a rolling average. yuk-yuk
 
4:08 PM
I didn't know you came from a typically Hawaiian region.
@ЯegDwight Please. No.
 
@Cerberus Haha.
 
Is that the guy who sings "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" incorrectly on YouTube?
 
@ЯegDwight What, they have a Hawaii in Germany now?
 
@SpareOom I just googled for "гаваец"
 
Of course Japan has Sumo wrestling.
 
4:09 PM
So I think we need a new policy.
On preposition questions.
I was going to propose something on Meta, but I haven't gotten to it yet.
What do you all think?
 
1. Do not call them "propositions".
 
Good, good.
 
3. Profit!
 
I like the way you think.
 
4:10 PM
Google Maui babes.
 
@Robusto I'm not finished looking at fat men yet.
 
real, fake, really fake, real, real.
 
@SpareOom My son went to Japan a few months ago. He got stuck sitting next to the only fat person on the plane for the whole flight.
 
@Robusto Better!
 
@ЯegDwight Whatever floats your boat.
 
4:12 PM
This is the typical Dutch look for you.
 
The juxtaposition is marvellous.
 
BTW, if you're drowning, grab hold of a fat person if you can. They float better.
 
Thankfully this was shot in winter.
 
Anyway, I've got to bolt.
Catch you all later.
Happy Labor Day.
 
CUae's.
 
4:13 PM
OK, we can resume discussing @KitFox's shortcomings.
 
Oh shit, am I supposed to be laboring?
 
Kit's comings are indeed very short.
 
Labor is for women. Men just work.
 
This. This is the typical Dutch provincial mother.
 
@Robusto Japan has discovered western food now (fried foods and ice cream), so the average weight has increased. Other than the Sumo wrestlers, who apparently don't die that much younger for all their weight.
 
4:14 PM
Really?
 
No data to support this, just observation.
 
How is that possible?
 
Sorry.
 
Oh OK.
I believe most Western boxers die young.
 
Okinawan's had the highest number of people over 100 while I was there, purportedly because of the diet, but the teenagers seemed to hang out a lot at マクドナルド.
 
4:17 PM
@SpareOom A lot of them are Hawaiian or Tahitian or Samoan. I know Konishiki is Hawaiian.
---- , is a Hawaiian-born Japanese–Samoan former sumo wrestler. He was the first non-Japanese-born wrestler to reach ozeki, the second highest rank in the sport. During his career he won the top division championship on three occasions and came close to becoming the first foreign-born grand champion, or yokozuna, prompting a debate as to whether a foreigner could have the necessary cultural understanding to be acceptable in sumo's ultimate rank. At a peak weight of he was also the heaviest rikishi ever in sumo, earning him the nickname "The Dump Truck." Early career Atisano'e entered s...
Ooh, he's Samoan too.
 
@Robusto Yes, that's true. They're all highly respected there.
I can't believe I got sort of into watching sumo. XP
It's not all about their weight, but it helps.
That sounded wrong.
 
Seriously, though, I can't imagine being that fat. You couldn't move around, and you would lose touch with your bodily extremities. Plus nobody would want to have sex with you.
 
@SpareOom XP! Yay.
 
@Robusto But the girls flock around them, don't they?
 
I dunno. But flocking != fucking.
 
4:20 PM
@Cerberus When in Japan.
 
@Robusto I should think the two went hand in hand, or, rather, out of hand.
XP = XP.
 
@Cerberus My single dietary rule, which I've kept since college, is never go up a clothing size. If something starts not fitting, I stop eating sweets and junk.
 
Good rule.
I've never gone up a size, but I can still tell when I've put on 5 kg.
It's not good!
 
@Cerberus Yeah. Pants get tight, you know what to do. Easy-peasy.
And it's weird that the southern states are where the fattest people live. You'd think they wouldn't be able to stand all that heat.
 
It's harder to keep that rule when you get older. I'm about at the same weight that I was in college, but everything has changed proportion somewhere along the line.
 
4:24 PM
People burn more fat to stay warm when it's cold?
 
@Robusto Really!
 
@SpareOom Yeah that sucks.
Oh, well.
 
Time to go home.
Laters.
 
Bai.
 
CU.
 
4:29 PM
I remember my first discussion with a Japanese person about sumo. At first I didn't know what he was talking about, because I'd grown up pronouncing the word SUE-moh. But the su syllable drops the vowel sound (mostly) in Japanese, so the guy was pronouncing it s'MOH and it took me a few sentence to sort it out
 
Yeah, futon is the same way: f'-ton.
They also swallow the final u in desu and a whole bunch of words like that.
Greetings, @cornbreadninja
 
相撲 is how they write it, which is funny. The characters literally mean "hitting each other" (not in that order) ...
 
@SpareOom Howdy!
 
@SpareOom Even the tsu in names like Matsuzaka comes out like that: Mats'zaka.
 
But in theater, they pronounce all those swallowed syllables.
 
4:34 PM
Part of it comes from the fact that the u sound is not spoken with rounded lips.
 
It's hilarious!
 
@SpareOom Noh it's not!
 
:D
At least kabuki, idk whether Noh does that or not.
 
Well, if you don't have the ass for opera, don't go see a Noh play.
 
It depends on the opera.
I saw my first opera when I was 3, so I'm told.
 
4:37 PM
Think Wagner x 4.
 
My folks had season tickets for years.
 
You could do the entire Ring cycle in the time it takes to do one Noh performance.
 
I haven't seen Wagner live.
 
I made that mistake when I was younger.
 
I don't mind long movies. Wasn't there a Macbeth in the UK that was 5 hours?
Of course when it came to the US, they'd shortened it to merely 2-2.5 hours.
I had to wait until the video came out to watch the proper version.
 
4:40 PM
Movies are different. At least if they're in a language you don't speak they usually have subtitles. Operas don't.
 
Plus, all the Jane Austin novels' screenplays are better when they devote 5 hours rather than 90 min.
 
Plus movies don't have all that recitative. They show you what's happening instead of telling you.
@SpareOom Wow, let's not say things we can't take back, all right?
 
I haven't been to an opera in quite a while honestly, but some theaters have supra-titles.
What should I take back?
 
Just kidding. My patience with Jane Austen novels is not aided by making them longer.
@Cerberus Yeah, yeah. The presentation of visual information. Been there, done that.
 
4:42 PM
(Random graph, in case you didn't know this one. It depicts the losses Napoléon's Grande Armée suffered during its invasion of Russia and the retreat that followed.)
 
Still, one of the best graphs ever.
 
@Robusto It's just such a nice graph.
See?
 
Thanks, I was going to ask.
 
So losses amounted to 98 %.
 
I would like to take back some things said though.
 
4:44 PM
Although I'm sure there were plenty of deserters and wounded in those 98 %.
 
@Robusto I hate it when they dub movies though. The out-of sync words really distract me. Plus the facial expressions don't match.
 
On 6 December, it was probably -40 °C (the Réaumur scale is slightly different from Celsius.)
@SpareOom That sucks so much.
Many countries do that.
It is never ever done in Holland, except for children.
So mostly cartoons.
 
The tv stations keep putting Das Boot on dubbed instead of sub-titled.
Dubbed cartoons aren't quite as annoying.
 
Yeah.
(Actually, losses were closer to 99 % if you disregard the first two branches.)
 
But I saw My Neighbor Totoro in Japanese with subtitles and the dubbed version is awful.
 
4:49 PM
I like the Japanse sounds, even though I can't understand a single word of it.
Although it is true subtitles distract your view from the centre of the screen.
 
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A: Where do “‑ess” and “‑ine” suffixes come from?

tchristThere are at least four different -ess suffixes involved here: one is for feminines, one is to change adjectives into nouns of quality, one is a Latin equivalent of English -ness, and one derives from a different French form altogether. First -ess suffix The ‑ess that denotes female persons o...

That should do it.
See why I was ticked at the question getting closed?
 
@tchrist I was just going to ping you to see if you were working on that.
 
I was.
I’m slow.
 
So @Reg, do you happen to know why Napoleon didn't stay in Moscow during the winter?
Not enough food?
 
@tchrist Worth the wait.
 
4:54 PM
Tolstoy describes the French occupation of Moscow as fairly quiet.
Some looting, of course.
 
@tchrist 'Cause research takes time, as opposed to just making something up without anything to back it up.
 
You’ll note that I actually looked up the stuff in the Letters, not just copying it from Wikipedia.
I just added -ine so that there could be Dutch reference for @Cerberus’s delectation.
 

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