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12:02 AM
good night
 
12:26 AM
A ridgel is a poorly/mis-castrated animal. Why do we need a word for that?
 
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1:04 AM
@tchrist How is your stomach now?
 
meh
 
Hello.
 
Look what I found!
 
Have I missed any Latin?
 
beck kyle islet bache burn lough thwaite midden fen cam pant scree close wheal down ghyll wold fold skerry ford graff dale coomb brim scaur rigg copse kame strath sike how low fell dess frith eyot lea vord gill air toft hurst haugh firth shaw sound dingle garth bink voe carr stank pike knoll cairn dell dene dub foss side moor ness tor snicket hope glade croft vennel born mere ait glen thorpe porth holm adit tarn brink law bourne coppice groop ginnel dimble force
Those are all English words.
They are all nouns.
They are in the dictionary.
And they belong to the same general class of thing.
What is that thing?
@luke I found your list. Look a few lines up.
 
1:08 AM
Geography? The English countryside?
 
Yes, right.
And many, maybe most of them are from ON not OE.
Very good, by the way.
 
The first or the latter?
 
Both.
They names for natural features.
 
*former, I typed former
 
Mostly.
I've never heard of many of them.
Or had forgotten what few I knew.
 
1:11 AM
evening everyone
i just finished a short story
 
Many look unfamiliar.
 
islet midden fen scree close down ghill wold fold skerry ford dale coomb copse fell frith eyot gill firth shaw sound dingle garth knoll cairn dell moor tor glade mere ait glen thorpe tarn bourne coppice.
 
Hi.
 
Those are the only ones I knew.
And I might have been able to punt on garth.
 
user19161
@JSBձոգչ Will you be selling it on Amazon?
 
1:12 AM
But aren't those . . . uncommon?
 
@JasperLoy i expect to submit it to a bunch of places before it ever comes to that
 
I scoured a bunch of sources. Geordie dialect. Orkneys. Shetlands. Glaswegian.
 
Then air is not air?
 
No, air is not air.
None of the super-common–looking words have anything to do with the common word of that spelling.
 
user19161
@JSBձոգչ OK. I might write some books in future too, I don't know.
 
1:15 AM
air: ONor. eyrr; cf. Norw. ør, øyr sandbank, gravel-bank. — A gravelly beach. (See Sc. Nat. Dict. s.v. air n.4)
 
And vord is not ford?
 
That one, yes it is.
If you know what a ford is. :)
 
What is the area near Rivendell called?
 
Trollshaws.
Shaw is like a copse.
 
Bruinen?
 
1:17 AM
Well, yes, but that's Sindarin. The Ford of Bruinen.
There's also the ettenmoors, meaning the moors of the giants ( > ents ).
 
Exactly.
 
That was when I realized the English had a word similar to the Dutch.
 
@Cerberus Which is?
Rob look at all those short, simple, largely unknown words in my list up there.
I threw in some easy ones to give people something to go on. :)
 
A lot of them look Scottish.
 
1:19 AM
They should. :)
 
user19161
@Robusto Thanks Sauron.
 
Also Welsh.
 
I mostly took words from the North.
 
I don't know, except that we have many towns named -voorde or -foort that indicate a shallow area in a river where it may be crossed.
 
Not many are from Welsh.
Hm.
coomb, maybe.
tor.
 
1:20 AM
Dingle is Welsh, isn't it?
 
Is that where it is from?
It’s one I knew.
Probably not.
dingle /ˈdɪŋg(ə)l/, sb.

Etymology: Of uncertain origin. A single example meaning ‘deep hollow, abyss’ is known in 13th c.; otherwise, the word appears to have been only in dialectal use till the 17th c., when it began to appear in literature. In the same sense dimble is known from the 16th c. Dimble and dingle might be phonetic doublets: cf. cramble and crangle.

A deep dell or hollow; now usually applied (app. after Milton) to one that is closely wooded or shaded with trees; but, according to Ray and in mod. Yorkshire dialect, the name of a deep narrow cleft between hills.
 
Now as I was young and easy under the apple boughs
About the lilting house and happy as the grass was green,
     The night above the dingle starry,
          Time let me hail and climb
     Golden in the heydays of his eyes,
And honoured among wagons I was prince of the apple towns
And once below a time I lordly had the trees and leaves
          Trail with daisies and barley
     Down the rivers of the windfall light.
I know it from "Fern Hill" by Dylan Thomas
 
Ah.
 
Why I thought it might be Welsh.
 
A. 1240 Sowles Warde in Cott. Hom. 263 ― His runes ant his domes þe derne beoð ant deopre þen eni sea dingle [= abyss of the sea: cf. Ps. xxxv. 6 Vulg. Judicia tua abyssus multa].
1630 Drayton Muses Elizium ii. 29 ― In Dingles deepe, and Mountains hore··They cumbated the tusky Boare.
1634 Milton Comus 311, ― I know each lane, and every alley green, Dingle, or bushy dell of this wild wood.
1636 James Iter Lanc. 357 ― Amongst ye Dingles and ye Apennines.
1674 Ray N.C. Words 14 ― Dingle, a small clough or valley between two steep hills.
 
1:22 AM
What is a Foss? I can't look anything up on mobile.
 
They cumbated the tusky boar: that’ll show ’em!
Well, fosse is a ditch, from Latin.
 
I thought it was fosse, not foss.
 
Let me check foss though.
No, there’s another word.
 
It's like a trench.
 
force /fɔɚs/, sb.2 local.

Also foss.

Etymology: a. ONor. fors (Sw. fors, Da. fos).

A name in the north of England for a waterfall or cascade.
 
1:23 AM
I was thinking it might be fosse.
 
And one of the major thoroughfares in England before the Norman Conquest was called Fosse Way. The other was Watling Street.
 
So a foss and a fosse are quite different.
 
croft is North Country or Scots.
 
Does foss happen to be related to ford?
 
A lot from Norse as well.
 
1:25 AM
Probably not...
 
ford ORIGIN Old English; related to Dutch voorde, also to fare.
 
Well, I wouldn't think so.
 
firth is related to fjord
They mean the same thing.
 
But not to frith. :)
 
And foss? Related to fare at all?
 
1:28 AM
foss < ONor. fors (Sw. fors, Da. fos).
 
Well, all your words are related to geographical features or habitations.
 
Yes, that’s exactly right.
 
yesterday, by RegDwight АΑA
It's a bingo.
 
No idea where those Swedish and Danish words came from?
 
Does that go with dingle? :)/2
No, it doesn’t say.
OH!
 
1:30 AM
Hmm.
 
There are two friths.
One is a deer-park.
One is a wood.
The frith that is the game preserve is < Com. Teut.: OE. friðu, frioðu, freoðu str. masc. and fem., frið str. neut., = OFris. fretho, frede, ferd, OS. frithu masc. (MDutch vrēde, verde, Dutch vrede masc.), OHG. fridu (MHG. vride, mod.G. friede), ONor. frið-r (Sw., Da. fred), Goth. *friþu-s (in comb. Friþareiks = Frederick); f. OTeut. root *frî- to love: see friend.
It orginally meant " Peace; freedom from molestation, protection; safety, security." The game preserve came later.
 
Anyone who's never read Fern Hill should give it a try.
 
The other frith is < OE. (ʒe)fyrhðe str. neut. (also fyrhð str. fem.):-OTeut. type *(ga)furhiþjom (see below). In ME. and in mod.E. the word seems to have been confused with others of similar sound: see the remarks under senses 1 and 4 below.
With regard to the form-history in Eng., the reduced form fyrðe is represented by firth sb.1, and with metathesis by frith. The fuller form fyrhðe is represented, with metathesis, by ME. friht, mod.Kentish fright-wood.

The Welsh ffridd, ffrith, often given as the etymon, are adopted forms of the Eng. word.
Oh goodness, there are three more friths. One is just firth spelt weird.
1667 Milton P.L. ii. 919 ― The warie fiend Stood··Pondering his Voyage; for no narrow frith He had to cross.
The fourth is a verb, related to the original peace meaning:
trans. To keep in peace, make peace with; to secure from disturbance, defend, help, preserve, protect.
That's why Tolkien used Frodo. Well, kinda.
 
There was a Froda (old masculine) of long peace.
 
1:34 AM
Fear me. 666!
 
Why are the proportions of G:S:B so different here than on SO?
 
cowers in fright
 
On SO they come in at a rate of 1:3:9.
Not here.
 
user19161
@Robusto 666 is actually a lucky number for Chinese.
 
Now you're a beast of the apocalypse too!
 
1:36 AM
I have always been a beast of the apocalypse. I just needed this final push over the edge to reveal myself.
 
Here S:B is 1:2, not 1:3.
I wonder why?
 
I dunno.
I gave up on SO over two years ago. That place is impossible.
 
Like.
 
user19161
@Robusto All things are possible for those who believe.
 
I showed Reg my killfile and he had no idea it could be so long.
 
1:38 AM
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A: AS3 Get local folder mp3 contents into Array - Randomize

RobustoEvery Folder object in AS3 has a documents property, which is of type ArrayCollection, a class from which you can access the .length and then randomly select a file from index 0 to .length - 1. Then push the path of the file onto your playlist array. Each File object has a .nativePath property, w...

Read the comments. The guy wants me to do his work for him, for free.
That's why I don't do SO anymore.
 
It's always like that.
You think this place is any different?
People want us to read them the dictionary.
Or thesaurus.
Or CMOS.
Or just proofread their "work".
 
Yes. But if a question falls in the forest on SO, nobody hears. Here, the regulars jump all over it.
 
Easy come . . .
Maybe now.
Not before.
I find lots of old GR questions simply replete with responses.
And open.
And not deleted.
 
user19161
@Robusto No upvote! What a waste of time!
 
i no rite
 
1:42 AM
My SO rep is wedgied at 30,255. Stupid byte data types.
 
user19161
OK someone on another site just lost 300 rep after I deleted my account...
 
You’re merciless, Jasper.
 
I mean, I got the Unsung Hero badge on SO. That's how bad it is if you aren't posting about C# or Java.
 
user19161
I shan't say who and which site for secret reasons.
 
Isn’t “for secret reasons” implied if you stop the sentence before there?
I killefiled C# long long ago. Java knickertwists me pretty badly.
 
user19161
1:44 AM
No, the person, the site and the reason are three different animals.
 
But not out of ignorance, but rather out of familiarity.
 
user19161
Don't worry guys, I am keeping my ELU account as long as I live.
 
Regular zoo you’re keeping there.
 
@tchrist Look at the top players on SO. All C#, .Net and Java posters. They literally get hundreds of upvotes for the simplest answers.
 
user19161
So you won't lose thousands of rep here.
 
1:45 AM
Hm.
I don’t think SO has a plan installed for posthumous account maintenance.
@JasperLoy I am not certain that is quite as reassuring as it might be.
 
Okay, adieu all!
Bed time.
 
user19161
@Cerberus Bye!
 
Bye!
 
user19161
@Cerberus I will see you in your dreams.
 
Bye @Cer.
 
1:49 AM
Spooky!
 
@JasperLoy Now you're making him afraid to go to bed.
 
Ciao!
 
Chow!
 
user19161
@Robusto Better than me dreaming of you. It happened twice already.
 
Tschüß!
 
1:49 AM
This is English SE!
 
@JasperLoy Eek.
 
Shoosh!
 
We are having Donnerwetter here. I can hear it in the distance.
 
user19161
That day Kit said she dreamt I was Superman and I was jumping off into the water with her kids I think.
 
Wet thunder, eh? :)
It is summer.
There are always these things.
 
1:51 AM
Naßdonner? So denke ich nicht.
 
I don’t drink much, either. :)
Think that should be tinkle.
 
user19161
I only drink tea, water, coffee and pepsi.
 
I don't drink pop. It is a very rare recreational beverage for me.
And if I do, well, Pepsi isn’t my favorite cola. Too sweet.
I don’t have a sweet tooth, somehow.
 
I drink lemonade in the summertime. Otherwise mainly water. Plus beer and wine ad libitum.
 
At least, not for fizzywater.
This is going to sound really trashy, but whatever . . . .
 
1:54 AM
Well, I'ma go watch TV. Bill Maher is back on. CU all later.
 
I like the Minute-Maid Limeaid, made with 3 cans of water not 4 1/3.
With mint leaves in it.
Maybe some orange slices.
Over ice.
 
2:07 AM
Sounds lovely.
I had a lemonade screamer today at the amusement park.
 
user19161
2:32 AM
@Mahnax What's a screamer?
 
user19161
@corn You are back from the haircut!
 
@JasperLoy tee hee.
@JasperLoy indeed!
@Mahnax how were the karts?
I'm attempting to write my blog post in between glances at Lions/Ravens.
I do enjoy bloviating about typography.
 
user19161
@corn Would you ever say "Accidentally, I kicked him"?
 
user19161
I accidentally kicked him and I kicked him accidentally are fine.
 
@JasperLoy I would not. That makes it sound like it's trying to be gerund form.
I don't think we can gerund adverbs yet.
 
2:43 AM
You talking about this?
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Q: Is it required to put coma after THE WORD accidentally

augustaI accidentally sent you the wrong number.

 
user19161
@tchrist Yes, that made me think about it.
 
“Incidentally, I will be leaving early in the morning.”
 
@tchrist nice.
there incidents and accidents / there were hints and allegations
 
user19161
It seems that some adverbs can fit in front and some don't nicely.
 
“Amazingly, no one was harmed.”
 
2:45 AM
Unsurprisingly, tchrist offered many examples.
 
@JasperLoy Maybe to demonstrate a contrast. Accidentally I kicked him; but deliberately he wrestled me to the ground then stomped on my face in retaliation.
 
? I sent you accidentally the wrong number.
I sent you the wrong number accidentally.
 
*A man walks down the street,
He says, Why am I short of attention?
Got a short little span of attention,
And whoa, my nights are so long!
Where's my wife and family?
What if I die here?
Who'll be my role-model?
Now that my role-model is
Gone, gone*
wth
waves wand italicize!
 
Only I can do things like that, you know.
 
user19161
@DavidWallace Oh I see you flew out again.
 
2:50 AM
@JasperLoy that was weird to watch.
 
𝑨 𝒎𝒂𝒏 𝒘𝒂𝒍𝒌𝒔 𝒅𝒐𝒘𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒔𝒕𝒓𝒆𝒆𝒕,
𝑯𝒆 𝒔𝒂𝒚𝒔, 𝑾𝒉𝒚 𝒂𝒎 𝑰 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒓𝒕 𝒐𝒇 𝒂𝒕𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏?
𝑮𝒐𝒕 𝒂 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒓𝒕 𝒍𝒊𝒕𝒕𝒍𝒆 𝒔𝒑𝒂𝒏 𝒐𝒇 𝒂𝒕𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏,
𝑨𝒏𝒅 𝒘𝒉𝒐𝒂, 𝒎𝒚 𝒏𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒔𝒐 𝒍𝒐𝒏𝒈!
𝑾𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆'𝒔 𝒎𝒚 𝒘𝒊𝒇𝒆 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒇𝒂𝒎𝒊𝒍𝒚?
𝑾𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒊𝒇 𝑰 𝒅𝒊𝒆 𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆?
𝑾𝒉𝒐'𝒍𝒍 𝒃𝒆 𝒎𝒚 𝒓𝒐𝒍𝒆-𝒎𝒐𝒅𝒆𝒍?
𝑵𝒐𝒘 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒎𝒚 𝒓𝒐𝒍𝒆-𝒎𝒐𝒅𝒆𝒍 𝒊𝒔

𝑮𝒐𝒏𝒆, 𝒈𝒐𝒏𝒆
 
user19161
@cornbreadninja Yeah, he came in suddenly and left suddenly, amazing.
 
@cornbreadninja Yeah he came in, suddenly, and left, suddenly amazing us all with his marvelous animation.
Must be me.
 
@tchrist Your "incidentally" and "amazingly" examples are different from the "accidentally" one; because "incidentally" does not qualify "leaving" and "amazingly" does not qualify "harmed"; whereas "accidentally" DOES qualify kicked. So it's not a property of the adverb itself, but just a question of whether it qualifies the sentence's main verb.
 
Spooks?
David leaves me a message and he isn't even here?
checks for mene, mene on his wall
@DavidWallace Those out-front-of-anything adverbs really give sentence-diagrammers a headache.
𝒜 𝓂𝒶𝓃 𝓌𝒶𝓁𝓀𝓈 𝒹ℴ𝓌𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓈𝓉𝓇𝑒𝑒𝓉,
ℋ𝑒 𝓈𝒶𝓎𝓈, 𝒲𝒽𝓎 𝒶𝓂 ℐ 𝓈𝒽ℴ𝓇𝓉 ℴ𝒻 𝒶𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓃𝓉𝒾ℴ𝓃?
𝒢ℴ𝓉 𝒶 𝓈𝒽ℴ𝓇𝓉 𝓁𝒾𝓉𝓉𝓁𝑒 𝓈𝓅𝒶𝓃 ℴ𝒻 𝒶𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓃𝓉𝒾ℴ𝓃,
𝒜𝓃𝒹 𝓌𝒽ℴ𝒶, 𝓂𝓎 𝓃𝒾ℊ𝒽𝓉𝓈 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓈ℴ 𝓁ℴ𝓃ℊ!
𝒲𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒’𝓈 𝓂𝓎 𝓌𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝒻𝒶𝓂𝒾𝓁𝓎?
𝒲𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝒻 ℐ 𝒹𝒾𝑒 𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒?
𝒲𝒽ℴ’𝓁𝓁 𝒷𝑒 𝓂𝓎 𝓇ℴ𝓁𝑒-𝓂ℴ𝒹𝑒𝓁?
𝒩ℴ𝓌 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓂𝓎 𝓇ℴ𝓁𝑒-𝓂ℴ𝒹𝑒𝓁 𝒾𝓈
𝒢ℴ𝓃𝑒, ℊℴ𝓃𝑒.
Looks like that one isn’t all there.
𝔄 𝔪𝔞𝔫 𝔴𝔞𝔩𝔨𝔰 𝔡𝔬𝔴𝔫 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔰𝔱𝔯𝔢𝔢𝔱,
ℌ𝔢 𝔰𝔞𝔶𝔰, 𝔚𝔥𝔶 𝔞𝔪 ℑ 𝔰𝔥𝔬𝔯𝔱 𝔬𝔣 𝔞𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔦𝔬𝔫?
𝔊𝔬𝔱 𝔞 𝔰𝔥𝔬𝔯𝔱 𝔩𝔦𝔱𝔱𝔩𝔢 𝔰𝔭𝔞𝔫 𝔬𝔣 𝔞𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔦𝔬𝔫,
𝔄𝔫𝔡 𝔴𝔥𝔬𝔞, 𝔪𝔶 𝔫𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 𝔞𝔯𝔢 𝔰𝔬 𝔩𝔬𝔫𝔤!
𝔚𝔥𝔢𝔯𝔢’𝔰 𝔪𝔶 𝔴𝔦𝔣𝔢 𝔞𝔫𝔡 𝔣𝔞𝔪𝔦𝔩𝔶?
𝔚𝔥𝔞𝔱 𝔦𝔣 ℑ 𝔡𝔦𝔢 𝔥𝔢𝔯𝔢?
𝔚𝔥𝔬’𝔩𝔩 𝔟𝔢 𝔪𝔶 𝔯𝔬𝔩𝔢-𝔪𝔬𝔡𝔢𝔩?
𝔑𝔬𝔴 𝔱𝔥𝔞𝔱 𝔪𝔶 𝔯𝔬𝔩𝔢-𝔪𝔬𝔡𝔢𝔩 𝔦𝔰
𝔊𝔬𝔫𝔢, 𝔤𝔬𝔫𝔢.
Better.
@simchona You around?
Fee fie foe fum.
 
@DavidWallace I just do not understand some parents.
Does anybody smell a rat?
 
@tchrist my favorite.
@tchrist don't you mean on your wall, wall
 
𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯𝔢𝔡 𝔉𝔞𝔦𝔯𝔶 𝔗𝔞𝔩𝔢𝔰
@cornbreadninja Eh?
 
@tchrist quiet, you
 
Wuzza wall, wall, and how does it differ from, say, a wall?
 
3:20 AM
@JasperLoy A screamer is a slushie with soft serve in it.
It's delicious.
 
@JasperLoy “Soft serve” means “soft-serve ice cream”, almost certainly vanilla in this instance.
wonders whether Singaporeans know what slushies are
 
I think he learned of slushies just the other day, but I could be entirely mistaken.
 
It still sounds like a cruel high-school prank of some unmentionable sort.
 
What does?
 
A slushie.
 
3:23 AM
@Mahnax I can tell you for a fact that Singaporeans do not know what lemonade is. This may affect how you choose to describe your treat.
 
Like somebody poured ice down your underwear, while you were wearing them.
 
@DavidWallace Interesting.
I thought lemonade would be a fairly universal treat.
 
Lemonade in Commonspeak is not what you and I call lemonade.
 
What is it then?
 
Which one?
 
3:24 AM
What is lemonade in Commonspeak?
 
Lemon squash, I think.
Which sounds really scary.
Like vegetable marrow, or something.
Where vegetable marrow = zucchini or summer squash.
 
Perhaps they mean squash as in cordial.
 
@DavidWallace Should tell us.
 
Squash (also called cordial) is a non-alcoholic concentrated syrup that is usually fruit-flavoured and usually made from fruit juice, water, and sugar or a sugar substitute. Modern squashes may also contain food colouring and additional flavouring. Some traditional squashes contain herbal extracts, most notably elderflower and ginger. Squash must be mixed with a certain amount of water or carbonated water before drinking. As a drink mixer, it may be combined with an alcoholic beverage to prepare a cocktail (see preparation). Citrus fruits (particularly orange, lime and lemon) or a b...
 
And I think lemonade for them is more like Squirt or 50/50.
 
3:26 AM
Interesting. Well, I'm off, I can't be here long tonight. Bye!
 
Night!
@cornbreadninja How good is your NS-sense?
 
3:57 AM
@tchrist terribly
 
That means you have acute detection ability of him, or that your nose is stuffed?
 
@tchrist the first :)
 
Well, what do you think?
1
Q: High Count Among Americans

MySelfI have trouble understanding this Obama leads Romney 49% to 43%, a new poll showed. The gap mirrored four other Wall Street Journal/NBC News polls over the last year. The survey also found a resurgence of anxiety about the economy as job growth has stalled. Both candidates clocked their hi...

 
I was just going to ask if you meant that one.
Smells like NS.
 
Yeah, I thought so. I pinged sim, but she’s not around.
 
4:00 AM
flags++;
 
Yup, did that.
I think we’re mod-free tonight.
 
apparently it is sleep time.
 
I can’t even think of any mischief to get into while the cats are away. :)
 
@tchrist I find that hard to believe! Maybe Mitch will visit. :)
 
Well, yeah.
I didn’t handle that well.
But I have proved that not only can I call spirits from the vasty deep, they actually do come when I call them.
@cornbreadninja Ok, if you are there, tell me and I will do a thing.
@cornbreadninja And JLG answered him, too. Plus the fellow has two upvotes.
Oh yay, I finally just killed one of his the best way.
 
 
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11:20 AM
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Q: I Have A Question

TenderHere Obama leads Romney 49% to 43%, a new poll showed. The survey also found a resurgence of anxiety about the economy as job growth has stalled. Just 8% of voters remain undecided. Both candidates clocked their highest count to date among Americans *who view them 'very negatively*.' I...

Again?
 
11:31 AM
What, moar?
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Q: Do I need a comma after "when in (%time)"?

fiskjävelnThe company had just started to make money when in 1914 the World War put an end to its aspirations. OR: The company had just started to make money when in 1914, the World War put an end to its aspirations ?

What kind of three-legged doggy needs three socks?
 
You called?
Heads, not legs.
 
12:29 PM
@Cerberus Do you have socks on your heads?
Must sock to be you.
I swear, NS’s primary rôle in this life is to make Deputies of us all.
And I do not mean Native Speaker.
 
12:55 PM
Native Son?
 
Non so.
But I doubt that he is such.
Does anybody know anything about the new review beta?
 
Nada.
 
I wonder how many delete suggestions are needed before Community snips them off.
I looked on MSO, but found no answer.
I also wonder whether we each see a queue of the same length, so that we each must review everything, or whether others’ reviews shorten our own queue length.
For example, what queue length do you see right now?
 
14 in the delete queue.
 
You is talk complicated words.
 
1:10 PM
Now 13. It takes 3 votes to delete.
 
No no no.
I know all that
I mean . . .
What is the length of the low-quality post queue there?
It seems that we can recommend deletion without expending a delete vote, so it must not mean much.
 
In contrast, to recommend closing requires the expenditure of a close vote.
 
You've reviewed 419 posts today? What are you, OCD?
 
That cannot be a real question.
So I shall treat it as but a device of rhetoric.
I’ve done rather more than merely review.
I also often go to the q/a and edit or vote.
 
1:17 PM
If you don't go, it's not reviewing.
 
Eh?
 
(BTW, I’m editing the “fuckade” question now.)
@Robusto Topper is the name of an over-the-top boaster in Scott Adams’s Dilbert comic strip.
@Robusto By “go”, I mean I click on the link to open a new tab with the the full q/a sequence, so that I can look at surrounding context, other answers and such. I often vote on things while I’m here. I sometimes edit.
Hi @Sim. Been a sake night around here.
 
@StoneyB ... thank you ... I'm uncomfortable with advanced economic arguments! — Xavier Vidal Hernández 3 mins ago
Another county heard from.
 
@Robusto Which one, Edmond Dantès or Vlad Ţepeș?
 
1:29 PM
Basie.
 
Torques me off that I can write *façade* and it italicizes fine, but *filesystem_façade* doesn’t, thus requiring the compensatory <i>filesystem_façade</i> treatment.
 
@tchrist You need a thicker çkin.
 
This is kinda dodgish:
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Q: Alternative to “façade”

DustinDavisIn software development, I’m using the so-alled “Façade Pattern” to hide the complexity of a workflow via abstraction and encapsulation. I’m naming my classes using a “_Façade” suffix, so like Customer_Façade, Filesystem_Façade, and such. I’d like a better word to use in my naming convention. W...

Not fond of the tag, amongst other things.
How is different from ?
He did a halfway-decent job at covering it up, but this is really a programming question, as the accepted answer also observes.
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A: Alternative to “façade”

SigueSigueBenThis seems more like a programming question than an English-language one, but here’s my answer anyway: I question whether you need a suffix for these classes. Unless you have both Customer and Customer_Façade classes, you should just call your single class a Customer. If you do need the second ...

 
@tchrist The first asks which word is better in a particular situation; the second asks for a word that means a particular thing (which the OP can only articulate by description).
 
I can buy that, but it wasn’t my first thought.
 
1:40 PM
BTW, facade has been incorporated into English sans cedilla.
Problem solved.
 
I brook no fuckades.
 
You might want to weigh in here:
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Q: Diacriticals and non-English letters in anglicized loan words: keep 'em, dump 'em, italicize the words, or what?

RobustoTake an expression like déjà vu. This is a French term which is frequently seen in English. In fact, it is included in English dictionaries. But it is often seen in English in a variety of forms: déjà vu déjà vu deja vu Now, one would probably not consider using frisson or soupçon...

 
I’m sure you are aware as I am of the patter followed by other -ade words in English, Rob.
 
Gatorade?
 
If a word requires diacritics for correct pronunciation, and you wish to dispense with such effete niceties of a more sybaritic continent than our man-manlier one, then you should respell said word to accord with English phonology.
 
1:44 PM
Said without a soupcon of irony, I notice.
 
You should not be patching in exceptions to an already complicated system.
Gencon is current.
 
Said without a soupcan of vichysoisse.
BTW, I'm not sure I agree now with the accepted answer to this question:
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Q: Types of things vs. types of thing

RobustoWhen speaking precisely or technically, one would say that "Homo erectus and homo sapiens are two species of hominid" rather than "Homo erectus and homo sapiens are two species of hominids." The hominid here should be singular because we are speaking about instances of a single class ("class" bei...

I go back and forth on it.
Maybe I should say that it fails to satisfy in some particulars.
 
@Robusto There is no such thing as a fucing soft-c followed by anything other than e, i, or y in English. This is not permitted. You’d have us merrily picnicing in nicey-nice land. And don’t you dare spout off about cœlacanths, cœlenteron, cœlodont and such, because you know those don’t count.
@Robusto I see your point.
 
Who you talking to?
@tchrist Hey, don't blame me. I'm just reporting here.
@tchrist I pronounce all those with a hard c anyway, and the œ to rhyme with oi: "coilodont" etc.
 
There is no word in the English language that ends in -ade but is pronounced ɑːd. All are pronounced eɪd. It simply isn’t part of our system.
You’re trying to say fussodd but spelling it facade simply doesn’t work. For one stinking word you add two brand-new exceptions to English. That’s outrageous. So just spell it façade. Or respell it to reflect English rules. Don’t make up new ones.
See?
 

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