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12:08 AM
@MarcoDaniel, @Brent.Longborough: Sorry for the absence. :) The single quote is not a problem, but it seems there's something else. I'm still looking.
 
 
7 hours later…
7:05 AM
@PauloCereda @Brent.Longborough: Today we are cleverer ;-) John collings wrote a great comment:
By the way, since v. 4.31, latexmk supports as options most of the options to pdflatex and friends, including -synctex=... and -interaction=.... It also has an -xelatex option. So there is much less need now to use complicated constructs to get the desired command line to pdflatex. Unfortunately I didn't (yet) get this into the documentation. Run latexmk --showextraoptions to see which options it currently supports, beyond the ones listed by latexmk --help. — John Collins 5 hours ago
Based on this information you can use the following rule
!config
# LaTeXmk with XeLaTeX rule for arara
# author: Brent Longborough
# last edited by: Brent Longborough
# made to work by: Paulo Cereda
identifier: xelatexmk
name: XeLaTeXmKFixed
command: 'latexmk -e "$pdflatex=q/xelatex%O%S/" @{ action == "" ?  "" : " -interaction=" + action  } @{shell} @{expandoptions} @{ist} -pdf @{file}.tex'
arguments:
- identifier: action
  flag: '@{value}'
- identifier: shell
  flag: '@{value.toLowerCase() == "yes" || value.toLowerCase() == "true" || value.toLowerCase() == "on" ? " -shell-escape" : " -no-shell-escape" }'
 
7:38 AM
@MarcoDaniel Marco, good morning. How does the -e $makeindex part work, then? (I think this may also be a problem for pdflatex)
 
7:50 AM
@Brent.Longborough Good morning. You are right. latexmk runs makeindex but without any style file. Here my test file:
% arara: xelatexmk: {shell: on , synctex : on , ist: testidx }
\RequirePackage{filecontents}
\begin{filecontents*}{testidx.ist}
headings_flag       1           % headings yes
heading_prefix   "{\\large "%
heading_suffix   "}\n"          % newline
quote                '"'
%%level                '>'
preamble
  "\\begin{theindex}\n"
item_1
  "\\par\\leavevmode\\hangindent10pt\\makebox[10pt][l]{--}"
item_01
  "\\par\\leavevmode\\hangindent10pt\\makebox[10pt][l]{--}"
item_x1
  "\\par\\leavevmode\\hangindent10pt\\makebox[10pt][l]{--}"
 
@MarcoDaniel I suspect we need to recognise an arbitrary delimiter when parsing. I'll think a bit more, and send you and Paulo an email.
 
@Brent.Longborough The pdflatex/latex part works now ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel Yes, that's good; but I really think we need the index style. One way might be through .latexmkrc, but I'm not too happy at introducing a dependency there.
Need some breakfast, now. Back later!
 
8:37 AM
@JosephWright: A small answering session at Saturday morning ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel Indeed, there are always a few things to catch up with
 
9:07 AM
@JosephWright: Your vote is needed
1
Q: using macros within a (new) environment

Jennifer LI'm working on my CV, and am trying to format job/education listings to look something like follows: Company or University (Location) Job title or degree received Some description of what I did there. I'm putting enough of these in that I'd like to define an environment to handle the fo...

 
@MarcoDaniel TL?
 
@JosephWright I voted for this. I think it's the best choice in this case. OT isn't correct because it's LaTeX related.
The next question: TL -- an update solves the problem (see comments)
2
Q: Unicode-math math-style does not work for Latin capitals and Greek

Mobius PizzaTable 3, pg. 7 of the unicode-math documentation says: math-style=ISO (, , , ) (, , , ) But when I use ISO option with the following minimal code: \documentclass{article} \usepackage[math-style=ISO]{unicode-math} \begin{document} $A=c+d = a+\beta$ \end{document} I get the Latin captital...

 
@MarcoDaniel I'd say a dupe of the other one: it's the same issue with unicode-math
 
@JosephWright Can I change my vote?
 
@MarcoDaniel No, but I can just vote to close as a dupe and it will happen :-)
 
9:24 AM
@JosephWright :-)
 
9:59 AM
@MarcoDaniel: yay, now latexmk works! :)
 
@PauloCereda The problem: makeindex must be used separate. But I think it's not a big issue
By the way: Good morning
 
@MarcoDaniel Good morning! :) Sorry, I was happy to see that I don't need to fix stuff. :P
 
@PauloCereda ;-)
For your it's morning, for me it's lunch time ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel It's very tricky to inject code into latexmk via -e. :)
@MarcoDaniel ooh what are we gonna have for lunch? :)
 
@PauloCereda The same as for breakfast -- coffee ;-) -- My wife and I are going to a restaurant for dinner. So i need an empty belly
 
10:03 AM
@MarcoDaniel :)
 
 
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12:17 PM
A good newsgroup reader for Mac?
 
@PauloCereda Thunderbird
;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel ooh! :)
I was thinking of going with Mail for... er, mail. :) I was thinking of a more lightweight viewer. :D
@MarcoDaniel: our first question and the question almost broke my legs. This ain't gonna end well. :P
 
@PauloCereda I don't know. I like Thunderbird because I can copy the files to Unix and back ;-)
@PauloCereda It's normal ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel I'll try it.
@MarcoDaniel I'm scared! :D
 
@PauloCereda Will you install Fedora on your Mac?
 
12:25 PM
@MarcoDaniel Maybe via VirtualBox. :)
 
@PauloCereda Really I am using refit to get a double boot. And Ubuntu is my first choise
 
@MarcoDaniel Cool! :) I might install Fedora in my MacBook.
I miss @egreg! Come back, we miss you! /sob
:)
 
12:57 PM
@PauloCereda: Did you receive the mail? Will you answer?
 
@PauloCereda @MarcoDaniel Just sent you YAEM (Yet Another E Mail). If I haven't cracked it this time, there's something seriously wrong with the Universe...
I'm like a dog with a dead bird, I keep shaking things until something happens.
@PauloCereda Oh yes, hear, hear!
@PauloCereda Yes, Paulo, do these things while you can, because one day Steve Jobs' cold dead hand will extend from beyond the grave and lock all Macs down so you can't do anything Apple doesn't approve of
@PauloCereda It's all my fault, for stirring up the posseiros
 
Email?! :) Hold on, I'm downloading MacTeX. :) And yes, I'll reply every email (including @Brent's, which is in my ToDo list for at least two weeks now # TODO reply asap).
@Brent.Longborough LOL
 
@PauloCereda I hope I've cracked our particular version of the halting problem. (In other words "It Halts!?"), and mended our broken legs
 
1
Q: How do I read data from one cell of a table and print its content in text?

tglariaI have a list of hundred names with an associated ID number, name, contact info, and more... Is it possible, knowing the associated ID number, to just print a fixed format. By example, I want to type \command{10} So it prints "Text, text <i>name</i>, more text, blah for: <i>...

A bit vague: 'too localized'
2
Q: Project management tables (with cost "spread sheets") using spreadtab

sozeI'm trying to create a simple project management table detailing costs per task and milestone, using spreadtab: The code for the latter is: \begin{spreadtab}{{tabularx}{\textwidth}{lXllr}} \toprule @ \textbf{Task} & @ \textbf{Description} & @\textbf{Duration} & @\textbf{Hours} &...

 
@Brent.Longborough Plan B: ragequit and write another app in which you shoot ducks in your screen. :P
 
1:06 PM
Not focussed enough? NARQ/TL?
 
@Brent.Longborough ooh sounds dirty. :)
 
@JosephWright duplicate
 
@MarcoDaniel OK
 
@JosephWright There is no response by the op: TL.
 
@JosephWright I'd go with LW or SW (lolwut or say what?!), or simply TL. :)
 
1:07 PM
@PauloCereda Actually, it's all part of my plot to get everyone to migrate to W*ndows OpenBSD
 
@Brent.Longborough LOL we can try with @Marco. :)
 
@PauloCereda Who said W*ndows?
 
@PauloCereda 10 hours every day I MUST work with ... (evil word) ... it's enough.
 
@MarcoDaniel Have you tried Linux Mint?
@PauloCereda All you have to do is read the f*lthy email
 
@Brent.Longborough Not yet. I can't work with Mac. I love gedit and the terminal. ;-) The biggest drawback for me most software isn't free ;-)
 
1:13 PM
@Brent.Longborough Read it, and hopefully a reply will come later on today. :) I already have a solution for the quote madness, but the real problem seems to be about the execution from Unix (arara expands it correctly, the execution is problematic, mostly because of what John said, the $ syntax conflicts with the terminal expansion itself).
@MarcoDaniel I installed everything I need in my new Mac (except MacTeX, which is downloading right now). Only Office 2011 for Mac is nonfree, the rest is all opensource stuff. :)
The same thing applies for Windows.
 
@PauloCereda Which editor do you use?
 
Oops, of course, there's Arara Pro, but I can give you guys a free 30-day license. :D
 
@PauloCereda LOL
 
@MarcoDaniel Vim, Netbeans, Eclipse, Aquamacs. :)
MacVim FTW < sounds Scotish. :)
 
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@PauloCereda For some reason I can't get latexmk to work with auto-pst-pdf.
 
1:23 PM
@JasperLoy Really? I think it's quite complicated to make things work without a heavy source code/log/aux investigation. latexmk is very advanced, but it's still difficult to make it know everything from our sources. :(
 
user19161
OK I requested to delete 8 accounts but I'll keep 3 including the TeX one.
 
@JasperLoy Huh?
0
Q: Article contents aligned to left with svjour3

Ilya ShmorgunI have an issue with the svjour3 document class where all of the contents in my article are positioned to the left of the page instead of center when I use a onecolumn format. The result is that there a bunch of empty space on the right side of the document. The examples from the Springer LaTeX b...

TL? This is I thin just how the class is
 
user19161
@JosephWright Oh I thought I would delete them as I don't really use those sites anymore. :-)
 
@JasperLoy Ah, right
 
@JosephWright TL indeed.
 
1:31 PM
@PauloCereda Bur surely the dollar is a problem only if your executing via a shell?
 
0
Q: How to create a table of contents with thumb indexes?

TimHow do I create a table of contents with thumb indexes as shown in chapter 21 of the fancyhdr manual? The manual provides an example with a manually defined table of contents. I'm wondering if it is possible to do this automatically. I'm still deciding between book and scrbook but my thesis c...

Dupe of one of the two lined questions?
 
@Brent.Longborough I don't know much about the underlying calls, but I'm pretty sure that the shell is called under the hood. :(
 
@PauloCereda Emacs, Notepad++, Emacs, TeXworks, Emacs, Vim, Emacs, sed
@PauloCereda And you don't have any control over that?
@PauloCereda Wait a minute, even if you use a shell, if you pass it the single quote s, the $ shouldn't be interpreted.
 
@Brent.Longborough Great combo. :)
 
@PauloCereda Yeah, but you should see the size of my knuckle-joints... LOL
According to my arara.log (Windows), you're executing this:
Command: latexmk -e '$pdflatex=q/xelatex%O%S/' -synctex=1 -e '$makeindex=q/makeindex %O -s blindex.ist -o %D %S/' -pdf Daisy.Design.tex
 
1:38 PM
@Brent.Longborough I don't know the innards of the execution library (it's a third party lib from Apache), so I I'm not sure how it really works. :( In any case, I think the best approach is to latexmk have flags instead of us injecting Perl code via command line. :(
@Brent.Longborough So the expansion is correct. :)
 
@lockstep Do you plan to tackle tex.stackexchange.com/questions/58152/…?
 
@PauloCereda It looks correct to me
 
@Brent.Longborough It is. :)
 
@PauloCereda And yet that doesn't work under Unix/Mac?
 
@Brent.Longborough Partially works. :)
 
1:40 PM
Yoda says, "works or works not, there is no partially" :>
 
The execution part might be parsing the command in the wrong way. I'll try to debug that later.
:P
 
@PauloCereda OK, I don't want to take up too much of your time chatting; do you parse for execution after you write the command line to the log?
 
@Brent.Longborough The execution library does. :) It's needed because of the underlying operating system.
Some OSes require separated parts for each argument key/value or flag.
 
@PauloCereda The execution library is someone else's, not your own work?
 
@Brent.Longborough Yes, it's from Apache: commons.apache.org/exec :)
 
1:45 PM
I can understand the different API setup per OS
 
There's actually a mention for complicated parsing stuff:
The previous problem stems from the fact that commons-exec tried to split a single command line string into a string array considering single and double quotes. At the end of the day this is error-prone so we recommend building the command line incrementally - according to the same reasoning the Ant documentation does not recommend passing a single command line to the exec target.
I'm thinking of providing an alternate rule syntax in which you define all your arguments separately.
@Brent: soon my Mac will be fully operational, so I'll be able to track down this issue. :)
 
@PauloCereda That's really crappy, Paulo, in other words, they want you to parse the command line for them
@PauloCereda Like that better - "[empty] == <omit this one>"?
 
@PauloCereda watching the football?
 
@PauloCereda Dina (Dwalsh) just told me it worked!!! (Or maybe they got fed up with trying my harebrained solutions)
 
2:01 PM
oops
 
@Brent.Longborough Indeed. :( I don't blame them, it's really tricky to make things work with different OSes. Arara 1.0 had my own implementation of an execution library, and some basic commands like xindy failed miserably in Windows. :( I was thinking of writing a ton of unit cases for arara, that way we can stress-test our rules. :)
@Brent.Longborough Really?! Wow!
@DavidCarlisle Oh the game! I forgot about it! Let me turn the TV on. :)
 
@PauloCereda you'll be sad...
 
@DavidCarlisle LOL naughty boy. :D
 
@PauloCereda Now, if we can prove that simply using '' to generate ' always works (and, after all, if the Apaches can't handle what is really a simple command line, we're in trouble anyway), then it's easy-peasy.
 
Indeed.
 
2:05 PM
Yoda says "Use single quotes everywhere, thenescape them by doubling"
 
@Brent.Longborough Yoda english better learned
 
@N3buchadnezzar Sorry, yes: "Single quote everywhere use, by doubling, escape them, then."
@N3buchadnezzar Actually, it's Reverse Polish Notation
 
@Brent.Longborough Remember that "Yodic" has object–subject–verb word order.
=)
 
I think it's called Dagobah'n
 
I checked the StarWars wiki..
 
2:13 PM
@N3buchadnezzar Oh, OK, IBTYSK
 
IBTYSK?
 
I Bow To Your Superior Knowledge
OK all, gotta go earn some money
 
wooo
@Brent.Longborough Good luck with your dancing, do not wear out the pole! =)
 
@Brent.Longborough: It's funny with ''
 
2:59 PM
@JosephWright I do, but not immediately. (I hope it's okay that the question stays open for now.)
 
@StephanLehmke: found the best AIM ever: adium. It has a lovely duck which opens his wings every time I have a message. :)
 
3:22 PM
Bark bark
 
user19161
Meow meow.
 
Could someone test a code snippet for me ?
 
@PauloCereda :(
 
3:43 PM
@DavidCarlisle :(
 
@PauloCereda :(
 
@PauloCereda :)
 
@N3buchadnezzar :(
@DavidCarlisle :D
 
user19161
So many smilies!
 
@JasperLoy :)
 
user19161
3:50 PM
I have no idea what is going on. :-)
 
@JasperLoy you need to follow the Olympic football stream...
 
This is surely the most happy chatroom ever. :P
 
@JasperLoy Brazil have this great new tactic: start playing in 91st minute
 
@DavidCarlisle It is enough to beat England..
 
@N3buchadnezzar GB not England
 
4:23 PM
Hmm, new database server => all SE sites read only!
 
@JosephWright Do you know how long will the maintenance take?
 
4:49 PM
Hi all! I would like to know your opinion about this: Generally speaking, how extensively should I use \smash? Take for example $X^{(N)}_t$ and $X^{\smash{(N)}}_t$. In my eyes, the smashed version looks much better. But then I am not sure whether it is a good idea to interfere with LaTeX's postioning rules and I suppose LaTeX has good reasons for not smashing the superscript box!? What do the pros think about this slightly philosophical question?? Thanks!
 
5:07 PM
Hi @egreg! :)
 
@lpdbw well the most obvious danger is that the N might overprint the previous line as tex doesn't know it is there.
@lpdbw actually ignore previous comment, in that usage overprinting is unlikely
 
5:31 PM
@JosephWright Fortunately, the chat isn't read only :-)
 
@StefanKottwitz Indeed. I've been looking over the Teachers' Lounge looking for a notice about this: no sign yet.
 
@David Carlisle: I suppose overprinting of the previous line would be an issue if I smashed the box of the whole expression $\smash{X^{(N)}_t}$ ...?
 
@PauloCereda Do you have a pizza delivery lion drawing? :-)
 
@StefanKottwitz I can draw one in five minutes! :P
 
@PauloCereda Great! How about five in one minute? >:-)
 
5:39 PM
@StefanKottwitz LOL
 
@PauloCereda Want to know why?
 
@StefanKottwitz hm... why? :P
 
Site is back :-)
 
5:55 PM
@StefanKottwitz: ^^ :)
This lion will be used for Stefan's interview.
 
user19161
@PauloCereda No credits to Leslie Lamport?
 
@JasperLoy What did I miss? :)
@JosephWright: do you use .profile?
 
6:11 PM
alias ls='ls -Gla'
export SVN_EDITOR=nano
PATH=~/Library/bin:$PATH
@PauloCereda See above
 
@JosephWright ooh sexy! Thanks. :)
 
BTW, we are doing well on the unanswered: still down below 450 :-)
 
@lpdbw well whenever you smash you run the risk of overprinting, in this case thiugh you'd probably have to have a large subscript, the smashed N is set so low (which looks bad to me actually:-) that if it was _T rather than _t they would touch
 
@JosephWright Indeed! :)
For @AlanMunn's interview, I'll draw a Captain America lion. :)
5 minutes for my MacTeX to end downloading.
 
@PauloCereda: I am back any new information on xelatexmk?
@PauloCereda 5min? Why does it take so long?
 
6:23 PM
@MarcoDaniel I have some info from Brent. I'll send you guys an email later on. :)
 
@PauloCereda Yes, for a British/Canadian that's very appropriate. :) (And I grew up with British comic books, which are very different from the American style ones. No super heroes at all, just WWII heroes.
 
@MarcoDaniel It was a 2GB download with my dad stealing my connection by watching YouTube songs. :P
@AlanMunn Oops. :) What if I draw a John Cleese-like lion? :)
Dude, this gesture thing is awesome.
For my interview, I want someone to draw a Rocky and Bullwinkle theme. :)
2 minutes to install TeX? Oh my!
 
@PauloCereda Only MacTeX. After the installation you must run the update manager ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel Ah yes. :) I'm doing it right now. :)
Adium's duck flaps his wings when there's a message. This is the best thing. EVER.
 
6:42 PM
Did anyone notice the quote in the NYTimes article that @PatrickGundlach linked to which calls Comic Sans "the Marmite of typography"?
 
user19161
@AlanMunn Is marmite a good or bad thing?
 
What is marmite?
 
@JasperLoy Well I think that's the point. It kind of divides the British from everyone else in the world. (if you grew up with it, you probably like it, if not you think it's absolutely awful and disgusting.) I grew up with it, and I like it. I've never met anyone who didn't grow up with it who does like it.
 
user19161
Marmite ( ) is the name given to two similar food spreads: the original British version, first produced in the United Kingdom and later South Africa; and a version produced in New Zealand. Marmite is made from yeast extract, a by-product of beer brewing. The British version of the product is a sticky, dark brown paste with a distinctive, powerful flavour, which is extremely salty. This distinctive taste is reflected in the British company's marketing slogan: "Love it or hate it." Other similar products are the Australian Vegemite and AussieMite, the Swiss Cenovis and the German Vitam-...
 
@JasperLoy Thanks. Ok the main sentence is: Love it or hate it. The same with the font ;-)
 
6:54 PM
Not meaning to barge in, but.... Marmite is the best stuff on earth :)
 
user19161
I can't even remember whether I ate marmite or not. It could have been something similar to it but not it.
 
7:15 PM
@JasperLoy bad
 
@DavidCarlisle Let the games begin.
 
@AlanMunn My wife likes it:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Mine, being Brazilian, hates it.
 
@AlanMunn maybe we should swap
 
@DavidCarlisle LOL
 
7:20 PM
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
Nutella!
 
user19161
@PauloCereda Bad.
 
@PauloCereda My spread for the bread. :)
(Hope it has no negative connotations.)
 
I never had the original Nutella, only some generic stuff.
 
7:59 PM
Ahem, sorry for distracting from this food business :-D just let me briefly get back to my "philosophical" question about smashing ... @David Carlisle: Do I understand you correctly that you'd prefer the original version without smashing? That would mean that LaTeX is right and I had better not intervene. Sorry, I think I am just starting to go mad over this aesthetic issue ;-)
 
 
1 hour later…
9:24 PM
@lpdbw well in this case I prefer the default yes, it might be a bit high but the smashed version is far too low, it's a superscript but only just clears the subscript
@lpdbw but that doesn't mean that latex's defaults are always right. They are an automatic mechanism designed to do the right thing as often as possible but no automatic scheme can compete on all cases with human judgement.
 
9:54 PM
@AlanMunn My ex, also Brazilian, hates it, too. On the other hand, I love Marmite, almost as much as I love memoir
@JasperLoy Prepare to be horrified: one of my favourite snacks is a Marmite and Waitrose Tomato Chutney sandwich. Oh, why does this thing flag 'Waitrose' as a spelling mistake?
 
+1 for marmite here as well (I love the story of the British missionaires who told their Merican colleague that it was "like choolate spread")
^#<?€*# iPad: "Merican" = "American"
 
@AndrewStacey LOL. The effect on unforewarned Mexicans is also, well, amusing...
 
@Brent because it should be spelt: m-a-r-k-s-a-n-d-s-p-e-n-c-e-r. And that was no easy task on this device.
 
@AndrewStacey That's OK, that's how the Bush man spells it, to match 'new kew lar'
@AndrewStacey What's the Unicode value for the M&S character?
 
10:25 PM
hi
 
hey @N3buchadnezzar I think I was late to answer you last night
 
@percusse Can I ask you a different question ?
 
@N3buchadnezzar You can ask the same even as I don't know any of them.
 
I drew a figure using tikz-euclide, then redrew it in geogebra. But they do not look alike
The drawing is really simple, it is a triangle with verticies 20,24 and 14.
 
what's the most apparent difference?
 
10:28 PM
@percusse Give me a minute to upload the images ok ?
 
@N3buchadnezzar sure
but I don't know any geogebra. Just to let you know.
 
@percusse I think it is tikz that is somehow messed up, but how do I know which figure is correct?
 
Well, it depends how you draw them? Do you have any code for that to check the corords?
 
If you can read euclide..
 
and which one is which?
 
10:34 PM
@percusse Do you really have problems spotting tikz ;)
 
@N3buchadnezzar I can draw both in TikZ :)
 
Basically I placed (0,0) (20,0) then drew to circles through A and B
 
@N3buchadnezzar and how about C?
 
@percusse Intersection between the circles.
@percusse The top one is Geogebra, the bottom one is tikz. They are supposed to represent the triangle with verticies 20,24 and 14.
\tikzpicture[scale=0.25] at the beginning.
 
@N3buchadnezzar Indeed this looks like a valid solution
\begin{tikzpicture}
\draw (0,0) coordinate (A) -- (2cm,0) coordinate (B);
\draw (A) -- ++(87.5:1.4cm);
\draw (B) -- ++(144:2.4cm);
\end{tikzpicture}
So I would say the euclide one is wrong.
 
10:42 PM
I think the scale thing does not work well with \def
 
But the circle intersection gives a right angle no? (if it sees the diameter and on the circle) so I think positinoing of C is the problem.
@N3buchadnezzar As far as I can see (c) is not on the circle since the (c) angle is almost 55
with the code
\begin{tikzpicture}
\draw (0,0) coordinate (A) -- (2cm,0) coordinate (B);
\draw (A) -- ++(87.5:1.4cm);
\draw (B) -- ++(144:2.4cm);
\draw (1cm,0) circle (1cm);
\end{tikzpicture}
 
@percusse The problem must lie in the scaling of the figure
 
@N3buchadnezzar I don't see why
@N3buchadnezzar By the way what should I include to make this working? It gives an error of No shape named tkzPointResult is known.
 
@percusse \usetkzobj{all}
Oh and \usepackage{siunitx} but of course you know that is not needed.
 
@N3buchadnezzar The 20 is giving Dimension too large errors. Is it points that you measure them?
Basically the code doesn't compile, how did you get a result with this?
 
10:57 PM
@percusse It does compile, I am just sort of tired. I could throw thogheter a mwe if you give me two minutes
 
@N3buchadnezzar No problem, take your time.
 
@percusse It suddenly fails to compile! Sigh, Altermondus should have been here..
\tkzInterCC basically means intersection between two circles.
 
Yes I now see it and straight tikz give me the answer as :
\begin{tikzpicture}
\draw (0,0) coordinate (A) -- (2cm,0) coordinate (B);
\draw (A) -- ++(87.5:1.4cm);
\draw (B) -- ++(144:2.4cm);
\draw[blue](0,0) circle (1.4cm);
\draw[yellow](2cm,0) circle (2.4cm);
\end{tikzpicture}
 
Indeed
 
So if everything is right then the solution is the same as in Geogebra
 
11:07 PM
@percusse And for some reason tkz-euclide also gives the correct definition
only when not using \def though
 
but still I use small numbers and I think tkzEuclide is going a little crazy while trying to draw 20 cm!
As far as I know the default unit is cm.
 
\documentclass{standalone}
\usepackage{tkz-euclide}
\usetkzobj{all}
\usepackage{siunitx}
\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}[scale=0.25]
\def\a{24} \def\b{14} \def\c{20}
\tkzInit[xmax=22,xmin=-3,ymax=16,ymin=-2]
\tkzClip
\tkzDefPoint(0,0){A} \tkzLabelPoint[below left](A){$A$}
\tkzDefPoint(20,0){B} \tkzLabelPoint[below right](B){$B$}
\tkzInterCC[R](A,14 cm)(B,24 cm) \tkzGetPoints{C}{D}
\tkzLabelPoint[above](C){$C$}
\tkzDrawPolygon(A,B,C)
\tkzLabelSegment[below](A,B){$\SI{\c}{\m}$}
\tkzLabelSegment[above right](B,C){$\SI{\a}{\m}$}
@percusse yes.
 
This code also gives the correct result? What has happened?
 
@percusse I do not know..
 
@N3buchadnezzar You must have done something as it suddenly starts compiling,
@N3buchadnezzar I really don't know any French to read the manual.
 
11:13 PM
@percusse Ditto. I do not know a single sentence in French
 
@N3buchadnezzar Then how did you manage to learn so much euclide? I should probably read the code to get what each function is doing.
 
This one fails to compile
\begin{tikzpicture}[scale=0.25]
\def\a{24} \def\b{14} \def\c{20}
\tkzInit[xmax=22,xmin=-2,ymax=12,ymin=-2]
\tkzClip
\tkzDefPoint(0,0){A} \tkzLabelPoint[below left](A){$A$}
\tkzDefPoint(20,0){B} \tkzLabelPoint[below right](B){$B$}
\tkzInterCC[R](A,14 cm)(B,24 cm) \tkzGetPoint{C}
\tkzLabelPoint[above](C){$C$}
\tkzDrawPolygon(A,B,C)
\tkzMarkAngle[scale=1.5](B,A,C)
\tkzLabelSegment[below](A,B){$\SI{\c}{\m}$}
\tkzLabelSegment[above right](B,C){$\SI{\a}{\m}$}
\tkzLabelSegment[left](A,C){$\SI{\b}{\m}$}
I can not spot any major differences, can you?
* The manual has many beautiful images
* Trial, error, blood and sweat
* Altermondus is active on the site, and answers my prayers.
 
@N3buchadnezzar Wouldn't it be a little easier to tell me what you have changed? :)
I see that \tkzGetpoint and \tkzGetpoints are different
and there is an extra mark angle command
 
@percusse There is the culprit
 
@N3buchadnezzar Yep, using \tkzGetPoints{C}{D} using the second one compile
 
11:20 PM
@percusse Still no idea why I got the incorrect image :p
 
I get the correct one.
 
I blame it on the french!
@percusse But earlier, what started all of this.
 
@N3buchadnezzar Hahah, how can I possibly answer that, now, can I?
I don't know what you did.
 
@percusse That is why I said: I blame it on the french
I have no idea what I did either, but I am damn sure one can blame the french for it.
@percusse Anyway thanks for the help!
 
@N3buchadnezzar Try going Ctrl+Z all the way back... MAybe you can spot it
 
11:26 PM
Right @DavidCarlisle, who needs the french ?
 

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