The h Bar

ACuriousMind

1:01 PM

@JohnDoe Yes

John Doe

@ACuriousMind Thanks man.

ACuriousMind

@YashasSamaga Not really, but off-topic nevertheless

::shakes fist:: HNQ!!!

0celo7

@ACuriousMind what happened?

John Rennie

@ACuriousMind the How come waves can have energy without having mass question? That didn't seem too bad.

Emilio Pisanty

dfq?

That's some seriously messed up notation

ACuriousMind

1:14 PM

@JohnRennie Ah, no, not that. I'm just irked that this answer of mine nets me as much rep as it does :P

@EmilioPisanty Not sure I understand what's so messed up about it

Do you think things with subscripts should not be supersets of the unadorned versions?

Emilio Pisanty

@ACuriousMind $\mathbf r = (x,y)$ is the restricted position, and it's only the full $\mathbf r_\mathrm{tot} = (x,y,z)$ that gets a subscript?

It should be $\mathbf r = (x,y,z)$ and a subscripted $\mathbf r_{\perp} = (x,y)$

and it's Michael Berry, too

michaelberryphysics.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/berry297.pdf

Yashas Samaga

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Q: Why is the mol a fundamental physical quantity?

I am starting to study physics in detail and as I read about physical quantities, I was puzzled why mol (amount of substance) is taken as a physical quantity. A physical quantity is any quantity which we can measure and has a unit associated with it. But a mol represents the amount of substance ...

that question had 9 upvotes two hours ago

it was marked as a duplicate already

why do people upvote it despite seeing the duplicate note at the very start of the question? -.-

Emilio Pisanty

@YashasSamaga Frankly, I don't think it's a duplicate

I also don't think the formulation is all that great

but it's an important question

BTW @Danu Here's RP Cameron commenting on your solutions on the optical chirality business.

ACuriousMind

1:29 PM

@EmilioPisanty nice

Semiclassical

I've got a question for the Physics Stack for once, here

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Q: Diagonal squeezing of an electron beam by a pair of bar magnets

While coordinating an introductory physics lab on the Lorentz force, I came across a behavior which I hadn't seen before and for which I didn't have a ready explanation. The experiment consisted of putting a CRT tube in a uniform magnetic field causing the electron beam to curve and therefore mov...

electromagnetism magnetic-fields electrons

If anyone's got any thoughts, I'd appreciate them

Emilio Pisanty

@ACuriousMind Yeah, I'm pretty happy with how that came out

On another note, are there two separate users under the Count-to-ten alias?

this user is marked as registering last February

but then you have things like

@CountTo10: Yes, I do know there is Coriolis force, but it is totally irrelevant here. It is nullified by the normal forces from the sides of the groove. — user36790 Sep 22 '16 at 12:30

ACuriousMind

@EmilioPisanty No, but there have been several iterations of an account with that name

Emilio Pisanty

@CountTo10, I personally feel the problem of low entropy beginning too, like this question, falls in the realm of philosophy since ultimately most of our hypothesis in cosmology are untestable, we must depend on pure math, even though it's unsatisfactory for most people — JosephD Aug 31 '16 at 0:50

being the oldest

also

@count_to_10 Thank you for your time. I've read the entry on Wikipedia about lift to drag and wanted to link it here, but you need a certain amount of karma before you can post more than 2 links per post. I just thought that maybe I'm missing something, since both coefficients depend on atmosphere properties. — Shiolle Sep 18 '15 at 12:38

That makes at least three iterations?

user228700

@JohnR: Hi :-)

John Rennie

1:39 PM

@Kaumudi.H Afternoon :-)

user228700

How's it going?

John Rennie

I have been having an entertaining time trying to work out why the Amazon Kindle app won't run on my Nexus 9.

user228700

Whoa, what?! Have u gotten anywhere with it?

Yashas Samaga

Are Stars Still Forming Today? - Answers in Genesis

:|

Biblically, we understand that God made the heaven, Earth, the sea, “and all that is in them” in six days (Exodus 20:11). This would include the stars.

The Bible’s short timespan doesn’t allow time for stars to form out of condensed gas clouds, as the secular model requires. For instance, astronomers believe that a star like the sun requires 30 million years to form from a collapsing gas cloud. Furthermore, the Bible does not describe the origin of stars, sun, and the Earth in the same order as the secular model. Genesis 1 explains that the Earth was made three days before the sun and star…

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H It turns out something in the upgrade from Android 7.0.0 to Android 7.1.1 has broken the app. I flashed a v7.0.0 BIOS and the app works fine. Flash v7.1.1 and it hangs.

skull petrol

1:42 PM

Indeed @JohnRennie that article does put the terrorist situation nicely. Thanks for sharing.

:-)

John Rennie

I realise this is absolutely fascinating for all you non-nerds, but you did ask :-)

Yashas Samaga

For a very long time astronomers have suggested that stars form from the contraction of gas clouds in space. These clouds are made of the same material as stars, but the clouds are much larger, cooler, and far less dense. Astronomers surmise that the gas cloud’s own gravity could make it contract. As the cloud contracts, it would get smaller, warmer, and denser, slowly transitioning into a star.

But this scenario has problems. One large problem is that clouds also possess pressure, and the pressure counterbalances gravity. We say that gas clouds are “stable against collapse.”

LOOOOOOOL

user228700

> Absolutely fascinating

user228700

Ah, sarcasm.

John Rennie

Irony not sarcasm. Sarcasm is the last refuge of the petulant.

Yashas Samaga

1:44 PM

Astronomers have long recognized this problem and devised a number of ways to get around it. Interestingly, all of their solutions require that other stars already exist. For example, a shockwave from a supernova explosion could compress a gas cloud so that it contracted to form new stars. Even if we observed a gas cloud collapsing today, that still doesn’t explain how the original stars formed by natural processes.

ACuriousMind

@Kaumudi.H You just have to imagine the English gentleman when reading that, right?

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(credit goes to @HDE226868 from back here)

user228700

@JohnRennie I disagree. Sarcasm, when expertly used is rather comforting at times.

user228700

@ACuriousMind Lol, yep.

skull petrol

Lol

user228700

John Rennie

1:46 PM

@Kaumudi.H Possibly this is a matter of definition, and irony and sarcasm are very close, but irony is meant to entertain while sarcasm is meant to be bitchy.

0celo7

@JohnRennie last resort?

user228700

@JohnRennie Hmm. I certainly mean whichever one does not hurt any feelings.

skull petrol

Ironic and sarcastic are two different things.

John Rennie

That's irony :-)

HDE 226868

@ACuriousMind Oh, yes. I'm quite proud of that one.

John Rennie

1:48 PM

@0celo7 Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel - paraphrasing the quote is a popular pastime :-)

Oops, I just realised I said last resort - the shame!!!

skull petrol

Why "shame"?

user228700

I've understood irony to describe a situation in which what happens/is conveyed is the exact opposite of what is being said. Sarcasm, on the other hand, is whatever the other thing is, but I wasn't aware that it's a pejorative.

John Rennie

i have to log out for a few minutes in a desparate attempt to get some software to work. Back in a minute or two ...

skull petrol

Sarcastic people are not considered "nice."

ACuriousMind

@Kaumudi.H Sarcasm is always biting, aggressive - the word comes from a Greek word for biting, tearing. You can use sarcasm in a manner where it is understood that you don't mean it as an attack, but generally sarcastic comments are taking a shot at someone (not necessarily present).

Emilio Pisanty

1:52 PM

@Kaumudi.H that's not what irony is

your understanding isn't as bad as Alanis Morrisette's, but still

user228700

@EmilioPisanty Please correct me, then.

skull petrol

Like rain on you're wedding day?

Emilio Pisanty

@Kaumudi.H thing is, situations can be ironic, which complicates the definition, so let me think for a bit

(situations cannot be sarcastic, for contrast)

user228700

@skullpetrol @ACuriousMind : Again, I respectfully disagree. When used correctly (in the right circumstance etc.), sarcasm has potential to be a comforting tool to ease the mood etc. but yes, it depends on how you use it.

ACuriousMind

@EmilioPisanty Have you considered that maybe one needs to define "ironic utterance" and "ironic situation" differently?

Emilio Pisanty

1:55 PM

@ACuriousMind yes

ACuriousMind

@Kaumudi.H I think you might be conflating sarcasm with cynicism.

Emilio Pisanty

either way, this is the thing to link to

Ed Byrne slates Alanis Morissette

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user228700

@ACuriousMind Nope.

John Rennie

Balls - it didn't work :-(

@EmilioPisanty Her follow up Isn't it situationally ironic wasn't a big hit.

An ironic statement about irony - ironical recursion!

Emilio Pisanty

@JohnRennie what? the song is all ironic situations, not ironic comments

user228700

1:57 PM

@EmilioPisanty: It was perhaps my mistake that I wasn't able to convey my understanding of irony in the correct way. I'm pretty sure that I know the difference b/w irony and sarcasm. I didn't, however, know that there are different shades to irony.

user228700

Also, when I say that sarcasm is comforting, I mean this only with friends and those who you trust don't mean it as a personal attack.

Fawad

ℤℤℤℤℤℤℤℤℤℤℤ

skull petrol

Sarcasm comes is different flavours too @Kaumudi.H :-)

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H while you're here, feast your eyes on this (those of you who don't have a strong stomach are advised to look away now):

Emilio Pisanty

OK, let's see.

the definitions at dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/irony are both rubbish

skull petrol

2:00 PM

Hi pal @Fawad

user228700

@JohnRennie What the heck are those?!

John Rennie

Sausage meat burgers with cheese and barbecue sauce!

Fawad

@skullpetrol hi pal!

John Rennie

And for dessert:

Can any non-Brit guess what those are?

user228700

@JohnRennie I hope you realise that I don't know how any of those foods tastes even individually, let alone when put together (:-P)

John Rennie

2:02 PM

@Kaumudi.H you must have eaten cheese and barbecue sauce, surely?

user228700

@JohnRennie Best guess for this image: Food (-Google)

Emilio Pisanty

hmmm, come to think of it, none of the top definitions from google are very good at all

user228700

@JohnRennie No, not barbecue sauce and I dunno if I've eaten the kind of cheese you used.

ACuriousMind

@JohnRennie Dumplings in mint sauce with some kind of offal on it? :P

Emilio Pisanty

@JohnRennie is it not just apple crumble with custard?

John Rennie

2:03 PM

They are ... pause for drum roll ... bread puddings

skull petrol

There's too much overlap in their meaning @EmilioPisanty

Emilio Pisanty

@JohnRennie baked in a muffin tin or something?

John Doe

@ACuriousMind It states "If we take an interval $|E-E_0| \approx \frac{\hbar}{t}$ which is much narrower than $\Delta E$ (which is the width of $|g(E)|^2\rho(E)$) then there is essentially no contribution to $C(t)$". So what I did was assume that for this $t$ (i.e. $|E-E_0| \approx \frac{\hbar}{t}$) we can consider $|g(E)|^2 \rho(E)$ as constant and then I substituted $t =
\frac{\hbar}{|E-E_0|}$ into the integral $$C(t) =
\text{exp}\bigg(-i\frac{E_0 t}{\hbar}\bigg)\int dE |g(E)|^2 \rho(E) \text{exp} \bigg(\frac{-i(E -E_0)t}{\hbar} \bigg)$$ where I got $$C(

Emilio Pisanty

@ACuriousMind how on Earth do you figure that's mint sauce?

user228700

@JohnRennie It certainly looks lovely :-)

ACuriousMind

2:04 PM

@EmilioPisanty Because Brits using mint sauce is a cliche? I didn't actually think very hard about it!

John Rennie

I didn't make them myself. They were bought at Waitrose (that's a posh supermarket for you non-Brits) and yes they were in individual pots. Hence the slightly odd shape.

user228700

@EmilioPisanty So...what do we do now?

Emilio Pisanty

@ACuriousMind mint sauce is green, surprisingly

who woulda known

0celo7

what other color would it be?

Emilio Pisanty

@JohnRennie emphasis on posh

0celo7

2:06 PM

or, colour

John Rennie

@EmilioPisanty I think you might have missed some irony there :-)

0celo7

@JohnRennie as much as I hate Britain I must say ou is better than o

I don't know why

John Rennie

You need to get a dictionary and look up the definition :-)

user228700

@0celo7 Right. Literally which other color could it possibly be? :-P

Emilio Pisanty

@JohnRennie oh, I was just calling the bluff

ACuriousMind

2:06 PM

@JohnDoe If you're integrating over $E$ then you can't pull something that depends on $E$ out of the integral. I'm afraid I have no idea what you're trying to do there

user228700

@JohnRennie I'm feeling a bit sad for myself but at least I'm having pizza with my best friend tomorrow! (And @JohnR, you'd know that I haven't seen any human beings (other than my two parents) in many many many months)

0celo7

@ACuriousMind you can if you replace by the $L^\infty$ norm and make a $\le$...

skull petrol

I like o @0celo7 because it's one letter shorter.

Emilio Pisanty

@0celo7 no. You can if you're a physicist

John Doe

@ACuriousMind The statement in the text is "If we take an interval $|E-E_0| \approx \frac{\hbar}{t}$ which is much narrower than $\Delta E$ (which is the width of $|g(E)|^2\rho(E)$) then there is essentially no contribution to $C(t)$"

ACuriousMind

2:08 PM

@0celo7 So why aren't you 0celou7?

Emilio Pisanty

::grin::

0celo7

ah, the old physicist trick

assume things are constant

John Rennie

@0celo7 Old English used just the "o" in many words that we now spell "ou". The "ou" crept in because people thought the words came originally from French so should have a French spelling.

skull petrol

Good point @ACuriousMind

0celo7

wtf I think I love France now

Emilio Pisanty

2:09 PM

no, but seriously, though, that's essentially what you do here

Method of steepest descent

In mathematics, the method of steepest descent or stationary phase method or saddle-point method is an extension of Laplace's method for approximating an integral, where one deforms a contour integral in the complex plane to pass near a stationary point (saddle point), in roughly the direction of steepest descent or stationary phase. The saddle-point approximation is used with integrals in the complex plane, whereas Laplace’s method is used with real integrals. The integral to be estimated is often of the form ∫ C ...

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H I generally avoid other humans if I can. The Internet has been a boon to us sociopaths.

0celo7

@EmilioPisanty I'm well aware of the method

ACuriousMind

@JohnDoe Yeah - so treat $g$ and $\rho$ as "essentially constant" and pull those constants out, you're just left with an integral over the oscillating exponential, which is zero.

0celo7

@ACuriousMind How does one change names?

Yashas Samaga

Donald Trump ft. Obama Singing "Barbie Girl" Song

►

ACuriousMind

2:10 PM

@0celo7 By going to the governmental agency responsible for that and requesting it?

user228700

@JohnRennie No, you don't :-) Don't you visit friends on occasion? And in the short time in which I've known you, you've spent two or three weeks with family. And then there's the SF group.

0celo7

I mean on stack exchange, clearly.

skull petrol

Go to your profile page.

0celo7

which one?

ACuriousMind

@0celo7 Have you looked at the "edit your profile" page? :P

user228700

2:11 PM

^

skull petrol

^^

John Doe

@ACuriousMind Yes I get that but what I'm saying is as follows.

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H OK, I generally avoid all but a small subset of other humans :-)

0celo7

Ok, it is done

ACuriousMind

You clearly know where that one is because you know how to change your profile picture

skull petrol

2:11 PM

^

John Rennie

@0celou7 :-)

0celou7

Am I now French?

skull petrol

Lou 7

user228700

@JohnRennie And this is true for most introverts :-)

ACuriousMind

@0celou7 I wonder what @Slereah thinks about that

0celou7

2:12 PM

What does that mean?

@ACuriousMind I could also be 0ßelo7

0ßelou7

John Rennie

Anyway, I haven't had lunch yet so I'm off to raid the local supermarkets.

ACuriousMind

@0celou7 lol

user228700

@JohnRennie Have a nice day :-) Bye!

Emilio Pisanty

BTW I think there's several regulars of this chatroom in the path of this one

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0celou7

@ACuriousMind that german snake joke is still making me laugh

ACuriousMind

2:13 PM

@JohnRennie That's a fantastic idea, old chap!

Emilio Pisanty

be safe out there, guys

0celou7

did you come with it

John Doe

@ACuriousMind Firstly $C(t)$ is not zero for all $t$. It is zero for $t = \frac{\hbar}{|E_t - E_0|}$ where $|E_t - E|$ is much more narrow than $\Delta E$. Do you agree?

0celou7

@EmilioPisanty it avoids me, thankfully

but there was a storm that took out power in our lab a few days ago

Emilio Pisanty

I think @dmckee is possibly in that area?

0celou7

2:17 PM

I'm dumb. If $x\ge 1$ and $p\ge 1$, is $x\le x^p$ and why?

Emilio Pisanty

@0celou7 yes

because

reasons

0celou7

I know it is

I'm looking for the reasons

Emilio Pisanty

it's equivalent to $1\leq x^{p-1} = x^q$ for $q\geq 0$

0celou7

I think it follows from Hölder's inequality on $[0,1]$ or something stupid

Emilio Pisanty

If you're happy taking logs and assuming logs are monotonic, that's equivalent to $q\ln(x)\geq 0$

which is patently true

John Doe

2:22 PM

@ACuriousMind It states "If we take an interval $|E_t-E_0| \approx \frac{\hbar}{t}$ which is much narrower than $\Delta E$ (which is the width of $|g(E)|^2\rho(E)$) then there is essentially no contribution to $C(t)$". So what I did was assume that for this $t$ (i.e. $|E_t-E_0| \approx \frac{\hbar}{t}$) we can consider $|g(E)|^2 \rho(E)$ as constant and then I substituted $t =
\frac{\hbar}{|E_t-E_0|}$ into the integral $$C(t) =
\text{exp}\bigg(-i\frac{E_0 t}{\hbar}\bigg)\int dE |g(E)|^2 \rho(E) \text{exp} \bigg(\frac{-i(E -E_0)t}{\hbar} \bigg)$$ then I get $$C(

Emilio Pisanty

if not, then what do you mean by $x^p$?

0celou7

ah, logs...so it's just convexity or something

Emilio Pisanty

@0celou7 no, just monotonicity, I should think

I mean, ultimately $x^q = \exp(q\ln(x))$, right?

0celou7

indeed

Emilio Pisanty

all of $x\mapsto \ln(x) \mapsto q\ln(x) \mapsto \exp(q\ln(x))$ are monotonic

0celou7

2:23 PM

yes

Emilio Pisanty

were you looking for deeper reasons?

I mean, you've proved it, therefore you understand it, right?

Leonhard Euler

Hello @YashasSamaga

ACuriousMind

@0celou7 I did - though I cannot exclude I've heard it before and just forgotten the source

@JohnDoe Yep

@EmilioPisanty "Avocado warning"?

I've heard of the rain of frogs, but that's just ridiculous

HsMjstyMstdn

Does a downvote cost you one rep ?

Emilio Pisanty

@HsMjstyMstdn yes

HsMjstyMstdn

2:34 PM

Okay, thank you

Emilio Pisanty

@ACuriousMind well, that's what it said

it was on the internet, therefore it's true

Interestingly, though, there's no KnowYourMeme entry for it

0celou7

Does @ACuriousMind know what an avocado is?

Emilio Pisanty

I can't be asked to look for where it originated

0celou7

Do they have those in Germany?

Emilio Pisanty

@0celou7 no

it's all frankfurters and weissbier

also leberkäse

ACuriousMind

2:37 PM

@0celou7 yes

0celou7

Leberkäse is awesome once you get past the fact that it's rubber and tastes awful

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And liver cheese is a horrible name for a food.

Emilio Pisanty

I once got the burning desire for tacos in Berlin and got avocados among other things

0celou7

The worst German food are those little beef patties that are like hamburgers but are rounder

Emilio Pisanty

a full €2.50 apiece, I think?

0celou7

Served on a roll

Emilio Pisanty

2:39 PM

either way, each piece was significantly more expensive than a kilo back home

0celou7

@ACuriousMind do you know what I'm talking about?

ACuriousMind

@0celou7 Frikadellen

0celou7

Yes. Damn Germans always tried to pawn them off as "like hamburgers"

ACuriousMind

@HsMjstyMstdn only on answers

0celou7

They're always horribly spiced to the point of nausea

Makes me sick just thinking about them

I don't know what you people do to that poor beef

Emilio Pisanty

2:41 PM

@0celou7 I dunno, man

0celou7

What German food is worse?

Emilio Pisanty

the knödelly doughballs that they like to pretend are a nice dessert are pretty ghastly

ACuriousMind

@0celou7 They're made of ground beef mixed with shredded old Brötchen and onions, plus whatever spices you like

0celou7

Nooo, how can you hate Dampfnudel :O

Emilio Pisanty

wait, lemme find them

ACuriousMind

2:42 PM

@EmilioPisanty Ah...Dampfnudeln?

Emilio Pisanty

@ACuriousMind hmmm, no. Not a fan of dampfnudeln either, though

also not these

ACuriousMind

@0celou7 Here in the Southwest you get that on a Brötchen as a LKW - "Leberkäsweckle"

Emilio Pisanty

which are pretty terrible after the first two weeks

0celou7

@ACuriousMind maybe not as far south as where I was

I don't remember it being called that

Emilio Pisanty

these

0celou7

2:43 PM

I dunno what that is

ACuriousMind

@0celou7 Depends whether Brötchen are called "Weckle" in the region - might only be in Schwaben

Emilio Pisanty

treacherousest dessert ever

0celou7

@ACuriousMind they're not

ACuriousMind

@EmilioPisanty Hm, looks like ordinary Knödel to me, but I'm not sure

Emilio Pisanty

@ACuriousMind yeah, those are ordinary Knödel, I think

I meant the snowbally things in the last two images

Also the unending sauerkraut

ACuriousMind

2:46 PM

I think I've seen those, but I've never had one or recall what they're called

0celou7

I didn't like sauerkraut when I lived there

Probably a shame

Can't get enough of the stuff now

Emilio Pisanty

just this complete lack of understanding that there is such a thing as "too much sauerkraut"

skull petrol

What does "kraut" mean?

0celou7

Your experience with German cuisine was completely different from mine

@skullpetrol weed or cabbage

skull petrol

Thanks.

0celou7

2:47 PM

I mean herb

Emilio Pisanty

@0celou7 no, overall I quite liked it

but it gets tiring really fast

skull petrol

Why do people use it as a racial slur?

0celou7

They don't. Germans aren't a race...

ACuriousMind

@skullpetrol Because the various "krauts" are a staple of German cuisine

0celou7

@ACuriousMind it's a slur, but certainly not a racial one.

Ethnic slur is better

ACuriousMind

2:50 PM

I don't think I want to debate the precise categorization of slurs :P

0celou7

Although according to most paperwork, the only possible ethnicities are Caucasian or Latino

skull petrol

Like calling an Italian a "meat ball"

0celou7

Lol who does that

Bernardo Meurer

@skullpetrol Italians did not invent the meat ball, the swedes did IIRC

IKEA invented the meat ball

skull petrol

:-)

vzn

2:51 PM

@skullpetrol hey saw you invite a few ppl for chat session, thx for the contribution :)

0celou7

@EmilioPisanty how can you dislike steam noodles?

Emilio Pisanty

@0celou7 too doughy

stickily doughy

0celou7

Oh man, that's the best!

skull petrol

@vzn no problemo pal :-)

vzn

@skullpetrol turning out to be kind of an uphill battle lately :|

skull petrol

2:53 PM

Yeah, I noticed.

Emilio Pisanty

@0celou7 this is Latino as understood in the states?

vzn

@skullpetrol lots of sharp ppl drop by the room over the months but not easy to (1) turn em/ convert into regulars and (2) commit to chat sessions.

0celou7

@EmilioPisanty on paperwork you have to fill out "race" and "ethnicity"

Emilio Pisanty

@vzn would it kill you to flesh out your words now and then? txtspk gets really tiring to read. (Just saying)

0celou7

Ethnicity always has two options, no matter which race you pick

John Doe

2:54 PM

@ACuriousMind Just one more thing, do you know why when $|E -E_0|$ is small compared to $\frac{\hbar}{t}$ we don't get rapid oscillations?

skull petrol

What's the biggest difference Mexican food and Spanish food? @EmilioPisanty

vzn

@EmilioPisanty you seem to have a lot of complaints, not sure where to start with them :(

Emilio Pisanty

@vzn It's not a complaint, it's a suggestion.

@skullpetrol uh... all of it?

vzn

@EmilioPisanty its an internet chat room

skull petrol

Wow! That much!

ACuriousMind

2:56 PM

@vzn And no one except you considers that an appropriate excuse to use textspeak. This isn't the first time someone has asked you to use proper words and sentences, maybe you might want to dwell on that pattern.

Emilio Pisanty

@vzn yeah, one where people come to communicate. I'm offering an uninvited suggestion as to how you could communicate more effectively, thereby making the environment better for everyone, in the understanding that it's a suggestion for you to take up or not at your discretion.

@skullpetrol mostly, yes

I mean

vzn

← too much incoming fire, waves white flag, retreats, surrenders, flees

Emilio Pisanty

they both involve food

so they can't be utterly unrelated

0celou7

@ACuriousMind what's your least favorite German food?

ACuriousMind

@0celou7 Sauerbraten

I hate it with a passion

0celou7

2:58 PM

@ACuriousMind There's a characteristic smell that's revolting. I don't know what it is

Emilio Pisanty

@vzn (And, on a similar vein, I would suggest that a much lighter use of typographical emphasis would not dilute it when it is actually necessary. Again, just a suggestion.)

skull petrol

Which is spicier on average? @EmilioPisanty

Emilio Pisanty

@skullpetrol well, Spanish food is zero spicy

0celou7

@ACuriousMind wow, why?

Emilio Pisanty

so it's not really a race

0celou7

2:59 PM

I had some when I was there time before last