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12:00 AM
@Sp3000 oh absolutely.
if you don't feel a strong need to vote, laziness absolutely wins
 
Yeah that's probably the main one; the other one is hating the system/the available choices.
 
usually "hating the system" means "I hate all the candidates", but I think the best argument against it is that you are voting for more than the president, and that alternate-party votes still matter even if they don't win
I really think it just comes down to laziness
and I still haven't decided if I'm too lazy :)
 
Hmm I was thinking if I had the choice I might not vote because I don't feel informed enough about who's who to decide, but I guess that's a form of laziness in that I don't exactly go researching each candidate...
 
right :)
 
12:30 AM
How do I ping someone with a space in their name?
 
Omit the space.
 
ok thanks
 
In most cases, if the @mention doesn't autocomplete (in chat or in a comment on main) then the person isn't reachable by ping
That is, they haven't been in chat for a while, or haven't commented on the same post in the case of comments on main
An @mention in a question or answer post has no effect - it only works in chat or comments
 
Thank you. I was trying to reach the offerer of a indefinite bounty in the comment of my solution
 
Can mods superping in comments?
 
12:38 AM
@WheatWizard If they posted an answer on meta you can comment on that, as the person who made the post will always be notified of comments on it (without needing an @mention)
 
I was going to but they didn't
 
Did they comment on the meta question? Otherwise I don't think there's a straightforward way to contact them (unless they are available when you try to ping in chat?)
 
@triforce test
 
@feersum Did that just ping me??
I heard a noise
 
Yes
 
12:40 AM
But not visual indication
 
When I hover over it, it indicates your last message
 
@quartata It appears to be only a chat power
 
Strange.
 
@trichoplax No. They are a rather active member so I'll just wait. Thanks for the help
 
@feersum For me too, but it didn't give me a pink (1) on my avatar or a pink highlighted username
 
12:42 AM
I see
 
@feersum That's a clever trick.
There's a non-blocking space between the i and the f.
At least as far as I can tell
 
Actually, it's a backspace
 
Ah.
That's why it copy-pasted as trforce in my terminal but tri force in my address bar
 
@quartata I can't think of a need for comment superpings. In a comment either the person is already pingable or the post the comment is on is not the place for it. If a mod needs to draw someone's attention to a specific post they can always superping with a link to it from chat
 
@trichoplax Yeah, fair.
 
12:43 AM
Idea: Send long messages with tons of backspaces that result in rm -rf / when pasted into a terminal.
 
More to the point, se chat preserves backspaces?
That seems super not good haha
 
Bounties that are only present in the meta question, and not posted as separate meta answers, leave no way to contact the bounty poster when time comes to claim the bounty. Please consider posting an answer if you have a bounty offered that doesn't yet have a meta answer. — trichoplax 25 secs ago
@WheatWizard I've commented on meta to hopefully reduce the chance of this happening in future. If you can't get in touch with the bounty poster, let a mod know so they can superping
 
@trichoplax Thanks
 
1:00 AM
0
A: List of bounties with no deadlines

Sp3000500 rep for "Hello, World!" in Seed It'll probably take either extreme luck or a careful analysis of Mersenne Twister to do this, but I'll award a bounty to the first "Hello, World!" program found for Seed.

 
@ConorO'Brien I think I solved one of your indefinite bounties
0
A: What is the smallest positive base 10 integer that can be printed by a program shorter (in characters) than itself?

Wheat WizardNTFJ, 111111111111111111111111111111111111 ##~~~#@:::::::::::\(****~~~~####@^) Explanation This starts by pushing 49 (the ASCII code for 1) and duplicating that 8 times. ##~~~#@:::::::: While there is something on the stack it copies the 1 three times and outputs the top four items :::\(*...

 
Layer 1 DDoS: cut the cables
 
1:13 AM
Isn't that just DoS?
 
Not if the cable-mangling action is performed by thousands of compromised Roombas.
 
Question: They say that chronic video game addictions can cause health issues. But what about chronic HNQ binge-reading?
 
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ HNQ?
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Hot Network Questions
 
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ You just created another addict...
 
1:24 AM
@trichoplax At least I eventually got off both TVTropes and /r/talesfromtechsupport...
 
1:36 AM
@mınxomaτ Did I miss something? What is the TNB Podcast (or rather, what will it be)?
 
@HelkaHomba Hey, is it okay if I invite an IRL friend to your server? They don't have an SE account, but I promise they're not a greifer, haha
 
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ how did you escape TFTS
im stuck
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ A week-long vacation + a poor charging cable does wonders
 
Oh no, just found myself opening it again
Oh well :P
 
Are you only capable of typing lol+Enter?
 
2:08 AM
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ /r/talesfromtvtropes should be a thing
 
hahahahahaha
 
@WheatWizard I'll award it once I surpass 14k again
@MartinEnder probably awarding bounty today or tomorrow.
 
Lol, I know that feel
 
I'll have passed the 14k barrier three times after the next bounty
 
Haha, I passed 15k several times
 
2:25 AM
 
@Geobits noice
 
I'm kinda wishing it wasn't white, but it's not like I can complain too much :)
 
Hey free is free
 
Wow that took a while.
 
Yeah, every time I've gotten swag it's been quite a wait.
Usually just about long enough for me to forget all about it.
 
2:27 AM
Speaking of swag, has there been any progress on the official redesign of PPCG?
 
I doubt it
 
I reckon they haven't even started.
 
Have a little more patience; we did ask for a lot of things
 
It's not November yet
 
I would love SE if they were just waiting for november 1st
 
2:31 AM
I'm liking the blue on black though, ETH ;)
 
The design takes long enough already; with the features we asked for I would be surprised if we got it in a year. Especially considering what else they have to do for other sites
Some more transparency would be nice though
 
♪♫ A little less conversation, a little more action please ♫♪
 
@quartata what features did we ask for? (is there a meta thing?)
 
There is, but I forget the link
 
@Geobits Hey, thanks :) Somewhere I have another regular version, blue-on-white instead of orange-on-white
Would "Reverse a string without built-ins" be on-topic and/or a good challenge?
 
2:39 AM
I'd be at least a little surprised if it wasn't already a thing.
 
57
Q: We're not a Q&A site. But what should be done about it?

Martin EnderIt has come up several times recently (more than usual) that PPCG differs from most of the other Stack Exchange sites in that it's not a Q&A site. People don't come here to ask a question because they have a problem, people come here to solve recreational challenges. The most valuable contributio...

 
@ConorO'Brien When you say "I'll award it", will you also be leaving it up for 7 days to attract attention (and votes) to the worthy answer?
 
@trichoplax yes.
 
2:43 AM
Excellent
 
@trichoplax That's the post I was thinking of
 
I'm going to probably award the quine bounty tho
3 days left
 
does anybody know why states (except 2) vote for electoral college in a winner-takes-all fashion?
like, it's certainly possible to split up electoral votes by proportion of voters
 
That gives that particular state a lesser impact on the election though (in most cases).
Or that's the rationale I usually see for it.
If all states did it, it would be different.
 
so, basically, because the leaders are usually of the majority party, they don't want to change it so that there are less votes for their party?
 
2:46 AM
Parties that have an advantage at the state legislative level tend to want their state to be all or nothing so they can ensure their party wins gets all the votes at the national level.
a bit too slow
 
@WheatWizard the bounty was for 250 rep, right?
 
ah
I was 99% sure it was 250 :P
 
Everyone's so scrupulous today...
I like it
 
3:18 AM
Oh, by the way, @PhiNotPi, I finally understood what this guy was talking about at the end of their answer. If you look at the picture for (2 3 7) here, you can see that you can get to any triangle from any other triangle by a series of reflections, which can be written down as a string of 'a's, 'b's, and 'c's.
The word problem involves determining if two of these strings are equivalent in the given group.
So we can tweak the word problem to check against strings where some small set of suffixes are appended, in order to put the triangles that make up the same heptagon into the same equivalence class, so to speak.
 
okay
(sorry, that sounded like an extremely dull response)
 
3:56 AM
@DJMcMayhem yeah, thats fine
 
@HelkaHomba Sweet, thanks!
 
@Sp3000 In Seed, is Befunge understood to mean Befunge-93, Befunge-98, or whichever one you want?
Oh the page says 98, never mind.
Any way, I read the Python random source again and realized that the Seed problem is much, much easier than previously believed.
 
4:16 AM
Easier? :o
 
Somehow, last time I checked, I believed that only 32 bits of the seed are used.
But actually, it feeds in all the bits of an arbitrary size integer.
 
Can I run a SEDE that looks at deleted questions?
 
4:44 AM
@HelkaHomba Would you like to join us?
 
@ConorO'Brien Since you forgot about the : operator I decided to make another solution that doesn't use it. I've added that along with improved my original solution.
 
Anonymous
5:03 AM
@feersum That's the behavior for Python 2 - only 32 bits are used for the seed. For Python 3, the entire seed value is used.
 
Anonymous
Specifically, in 3.2, random.seed was updated to use all of the bits, rather than just the first 32
 
I was wondering if it that was the case, but hte Python 2 code has the same algorithm for using all the seed bits.
 
Anonymous
I think 2.7.10 moved to version 2 of the seed algorithm as well
 
Anonymous
Well, Python 2's random.seed doesn't have a version specification parameter, which makes me think it only uses version 1
 
It uses more than 32 bits in my 2.7.6.
 
Anonymous
5:09 AM
It will use 64 bits on a 64-bit version
 
Anonymous
Since (I'm pretty sure) the 64-bit version uses MT19337-64
 
>>> random.Random(123).random()
0.052363598850944326
>>> random.Random(123 | 2**100).random()
0.45335264010052034
>>>
Oops, mixed up the two Pythons I had open.
But it still does not give the same values with Python 2.
 
Anonymous
Hmm... Maybe the only-32-bits thing was for non-integer seeds
 
It takes the hash code for non-integers
 
Anonymous
Yeah, which is a 32-bit value
 
5:17 AM
Nov 3 '15 at 19:01, by feersum
Python's RNG only uses 32-bit seeds.
Did I know something then that I don't now?
Or was I an idiot?
Oh, the version 1 or 2 thing only changes whether it uses the chars of a string for an initializing array, rather than hashing the string.
 
@Mego That's a red herring.
init_by_array is where the seeding action really happens.
 
Anonymous
@feersum Oh I see now
 
Anonymous
It does only use 32-bit seeds (by virtue of using MT19337), but it splits larger seed values into 32-bit chunks and combines them (through something that looks like xorshift to my untrained eye).
 
Anonymous
So really there are only 2**32 possible seeds. Longs are mapped to 32-bit ints.
 
5:32 AM
What do you mean? The seed array is splatted all over 19936 bits of the state.
 
Anonymous
@feersum Oh man I just cannot read tonight. I should stop trying :P
 
what if we make a new kind of category for questions or answers, such that they can't be upvoted, but only downvoted?
 
The really ugly style probably doesn't help.
 
Anonymous
@feersum It certainly doesn't :P
 
Anonymous
It would almost be easier to read the pypy-translated source
 
Anonymous
5:41 AM
@MitchSchwartz I don't know what purpose that would serve other than making Geobits smile gleefully
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
Chrome what are you doing
 
Anonymous
Chrome stop
 
i would rather post answers without having a stupid number next to them that has nothing to do with the answer, but it would be cheap to not allow people to express their disapproval, so the ability to downvote should still be kept, and also you get the satisfaction of achieving optimality if you can keep 0, whereas with the current system you can only get the illusion of getting closer to optimal without ever achieving it
 
@DJMcMayhem Should be back up
 
5:52 AM
Yeah, I saw
 
Oops, one sec
 
Haha, I noticed that
 
@Mego I think chrome is updating.
Also, why hide your extensions?
Also, do you have a BGR display by any chance?
 
6:30 AM
Why are people so crazy about downvotes?
Don't they just lose you one rep?
 
On an answer yes. On a question challenge no.
 
How many on a challenge?
 
ikr
Why are people making a big deal out of them then?
 
Oh, sorry I think I'm answering a different question than you're asking
 
6:32 AM
Like
> @AlexA. I wonder how much rep has been lost due to that! – CrazyPython Mar 30 at 23:55
 
Giving a downvote loses you 1/0 rep on an answer/challenge respectively.
Receiving a downvote loses 2 on either one.
 
no, i mean getting
ok, 2 rep
Not that much
It's only 1/5 of that which you get on an answer upvote
 
To me at least it's more painful to know somebody dislikes my post than the cost of the rep.
 
The rep is negligible. The satisfaction of a good challenge is priceless.
 
6:33 AM
Most of my posts have been 1/3 downvoted 2/3 upvoted
 
This is my most downvoted question of all time:
49
Q: N(e(s(t))) a string

DJMcMayhemTo "function nest" a string, you must: Treat the first character as a function, and the following characters as the arguments to that function. For example, if the input string was Hello, then the first step would be: H(ello) Then, repeat this same step for every substring. So we get: H(ello...

iirc
 
And of course it has 49 points
My most upvoted has 23
 
16:/
 
it may come as a surprise to you that i'm actually being serious. i would rather post answers in the way i suggested
 
How would you earn points? Would points even exist?
 
6:38 AM
gotta love the self graduation user script
@DJMcMayhem Upvotes - downvotes
 
points aren't good for much. if i really need them then i post some answers the normal way
 
@DmitryKudriavtsev Mitch is proposing removing upvotes
Or at least discussing it
 
maybe subtract your downvotes from the most downvoted answer's downvotes?
then multiply that by ten
boom you have your rep increase
 
That sounds awful. You get points for having the post that people hate the least?
 
Anonymous
Though it might be an interesting idea for a different platform, it's too fundamentally different from how SE works to ever be even considered for implementation.
 
6:40 AM
idk if you misread what i wrote or what. it would be an option like community wiki, only a different checkbox with a different name, and it would disable upvoting on that post
 
Oh, having both. I see
 
ofc i'm aware that probably nobody wants it but me
 
Anonymous
Nobody would ever use it
 
"nobody"
 
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Dmitry KudriavtsevWrite machine code that also works when left rotated one byte -- Note to self: Add description later. code-challenge

 
6:41 AM
yes, well i'm nobody, so that does fit
 
7:17 AM
i think the most useful privilege is to be able to see things that were deleted
 
Anonymous
@MitchSchwartz Except in the Sandbox
 
@ConorO'Brien wat for the NTFJ bounty you link to the interpreter and GH but not the answer?
 
i didn't even know i could see vote counts by clicking on the number
 
7:35 AM
0
Q: Antsy permutations

ZgarbIntroduction Suppose you have a ruler with numbers from 0 to r-1. You place an ant between any two of the numbers, and it starts to crawl erratically on the ruler. The ruler is so narrow that the ant cannot walk from one position to another without walking on all the numbers in between. As the a...

 
7:46 AM
0
Q: array question in java programming

bruceUsing arrays in java, write a program that could be used by a cafeteria to capture order for five clients, each client places an order of at least 3 items at any single moment and print out order

 
Ask this in SO. Please do.
 
@Dennis Would you mind changing TIO's frontend snippet function to show the correct bytecount for Charcoal (gist here)? Thanks
 
Anonymous
8:01 AM
@ASCII-only Why not just make a PR?
 
@Mego Because this way he doesn't have to push TIO's current code to merge?
 
Anonymous
Does he not keep the GH repo up to date?
 
@Mego No, the last commit was on August 21 and there have definitely been new languages since then
 
Anonymous
Sounds like pushing the current code is something he should do anyway :P
 
0
Q: Simple numeral-systems cipher

Anton KazakovЦ А З Ц 10110 00000 00111 00000 0 1 1 0 0 0000 00F0 FF00 0003 0000 0000 00F0 FF01 0002 0000 Top line is 4 separated single letters of russian alphabet (Ц - 24 letter in alphabet, А - 1, З - 9). Any ideas what's the logic here?

 
8:14 AM
hi @Dennis
hi @TonHospel
 
Anonymous
My G&T is beginning to be more G than T...
 
8:32 AM
Does anyone want to see my new Retrocomputing advert? I put a lot of work into it.
It's almost as good as the badly drawn HELLO I AM BOT FEED ME BUTTER Artificial Intelligence advert, if not better!
 
@wizzwizz4 Have you purchased any ancient computers?
 
Does Pyth or Jelly have a built-in to determine if one list is subsequence of another list? "Subsequence" means the elements appear in the right order, but might not be consecutive.
 
@feersum Not since the site started... But I have a Windows 98 SE (which counts) and a really old XP desktop (which doesn't!)
 
If so, I think I have a short solution for antsy permutations
 
As in first element...n - 1 and first element...0 are subsequences?
 
8:39 AM
basically, lambda x:subseq(sorted(x),reverse(x)+x)
 
I guess that way vectorizes the two checks
 
@xnor Please use another letter in future! l and 1 are displayed the same in my monospace font (for some reason!) and it looks like you're code trolling. Wait, those are both ls...
 
oh, Pyth has powerset which preserves order
that should do
i'm not finding boolean list contains in the pyth references
does it exist?
i guess counting occurences suffices for T/F
 
13 mins ago, by wizzwizz4
Does anyone want to see my new Retrocomputing advert? I put a lot of work into it.
hint hint
 
Is this a scavenger hunt?
 
8:46 AM
hi
 
Hello @TuxCopter! Do you want to see my advert?
 
no thanks
 
:-(
 
finally yes
 
There have only been two views on the meta question I posted it on since I posted it, and I suspect those were both web spiders.
Four more views! :-D
 
9:12 AM
I hate that sharpening GitHub applies to avatars.
 
@mınxomaτ Sharpening GitHub?
 
@ASCII-only For example this, look at the edges, they are not perfectly straight: avatars1.githubusercontent.com/u/22596566
 
Windows and Arch? Lel
 
@mınxomaτ Just perform the inverse of whatever they're doing to the image beforehand.
 
I can, but then it looks crap on mobile.
Or at least let me upload my vector file and not some PNG.
 
9:21 AM
@mınxomaτ Hmm... Perhaps there's a function of the API to submit an image without it doing stuff to it.
 
Also known as: "Just let me give you the SVG"
 
@mınxomaτ You could try uploading a specially crafted PNG image that will glitch the image processor in such a way as to cause it to output a text file. The payload? An SVG image. Lifehacks!
 
WTF
 
I blame Gravatar.
Ohmagahd, Black Mirror is back. Brb binge watching.
 
9:45 AM
My github avatar is hilarious
 
That's a WireWorld diode
 
Im working on building php vm in emscripten
 
@DmitryKudriavtsev What's so funny about that?
 
and writing a mysql to sqlite translation layer
@wizzwizz4 imagine seeing it as an early teenager
 
@TuxCopter Or a I in O power toggle icon.
@DmitryKudriavtsev ... Still can't see anything funny about it.
Although I now know what you mean.
 
9:48 AM
xD
 
@DmitryKudriavtsev Next time you want to send a private message, try making the room private first...
 
Not enough rep
gotta go to sleep no one ping me pls
 
@DmitryKudriavtsev If you don't want pinging, you can leave the room or turn off your phone.
I recommend the latter.
 
10:45 AM
0
Q: Code robust to mutations

Dionysios GerogiadisCan you define a piece of code that is robust to random deletion of any of each characters? To clarify, any sequence of characters that provides the exact same output after you delete any single one of the characters would do it. there should be some output, a piece of code that does not run t...

 
11:15 AM
@ASCII-only wait no I did. it's the last link
 
11:32 AM
-2
Q: Self healing radiation hardened quine

Dionysios GerogiadisLet us consider the following iterative process P(string). Given string P will first delete a random character, then execute the remaining characters as code. Then it will delete a character of the code's output. Finally, we iterate. Can you define string in a way that can be subjected to this ...

 
#I don't
apt-get
#what I'm supposed to do
 
11:54 AM
What do you have trouble with?
 
12:07 PM
Yello
 
0
Q: 100 Prisoners and a light bulb

jacksonecac100 Prisoners and a light bulb You may have seen this puzzle over on the puzzles exchange or perhaps heard it somewhere else. If you are unfamiliar with this puzzle check out: 100 Prisoners and a Light bulb The gist of this puzzle is that there are 100 prisoners, each one is separated from one...

 
hello all
 
Hi
 
how things?
 
12:22 PM
> goto causes unreadable and unmaintainable code.
ಠ_ಠ
 
well yes :)
why do you mention it?
 
which is true
 
it's also not new news :)
 
If you really like goto you would like GOTO++
in that language GOTO is a random goto
 
12:25 PM
the only good GOTO program is 10 Print "I am cool" 20 GOTO 10
everyone knows that
after that it all goes downhill
 
wait nevermind GOTO actually starts a comment
GOTOGOTO is the random goto
 
> Toute variable est potentiellement un troupeau de pingouins.
wtf
 
I created an array of penguins in that answer
penguins are basically objects in that language iirc
 
Marks of a great programming language: all commands are in French and the official website says "Send your logo et look dumb." — Alex A. ♦ Aug 22 '15 at 19:06
 
Nevermind herds are classes and penguins are attributes
and penguin machines are methods
 
12:32 PM
This language is pure gold
 
It's horrible to use, never again
 
Afternoon
 
stupid time zones
 
12:36 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
it's 5:35 AM, there is lightning and thunder and a shitton of rain falling from the sky, but yet somehow we still technically are in a drought.
i don't know what to think
 
cc1.exe: error: no iconv implementation, cannot convert from ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8
...
$ iconv --help
Usage: iconv [OPTION...] [-f ENCODING] [-t ENCODING] [INPUTFILE...]
ಠ_ಠ
 
I don't know what to think about you waking up at 5:35 am either
 
me neither
and fuck
the power's out
 
No sane person would wake up this early
 
12:38 PM
yes
 
@TuxCopter do which iconv, I recall something similar happening to me lately (but different programs, in git bash)
 
It say /usr/bin/iconv
 
hmm, maybe mingw isn't converting the path correctly for some reason
 
@Lembik that time limit might prevent solutions using 256bit integers from being implemented, for n = 33, I get 32 seconds for Dennis and 27 seconds for Hospel using an i7-4770k
 
@Fatalize I'm awake roughly that time every weekday
 
12:53 PM
Well you also use Powershell, so about that sane part…
2
:p
 

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