Root Access

But shouldn't you be able to right click on a folder and say Security -->Permisions-->Add Account to Read/Write Access? I can do that for single files but how do you do it to entire folders naitively in Windows?

Bob

At least that's what I'd assume based on the copyright notices...

Ramhound

@Bob - Type-C is more of a fork.

Bob

@NULL Add to a folder and it'll inherit by default.

@Ramhound A fork in what way?

Ramhound

Its separate but related from what I can tell. It has its own power capabilities that USB 3.1 doesn't have.

Freedo

@NULL If you need to take ownership of a lot of files, I recommend the registry hack

Bob

12:07 AM

@Ramhound Hmm

NULL

@Bob My account folder in C:\\Users\ says its read only...that shouldnt be right?

Ben N

Can we get an icacls report on it?

Bob

lol, icacls output looks like a demon-summoning ritual

3

Ramhound

Anyways...don't care if its read only what does the ACL show?

Most folders and files will have the read-only checkbox checked..

Ben N

The read-only checkbox doesn't do what you think when it comes to folders

It actually just tells Explorer to look for a desktop.ini and do special stuff as instructed therein

Ramhound

12:10 AM

^^

NULL

oh..well here's something...when I click files it says Unable to display Owner

Ramhound

Which means your current user isn't in the ACL

Ben N

Usually that means you're not granted read-DAC

Ramhound

add yourself to it

NULL

How?

Freedo

12:11 AM

@NULL Just run in a evalated prompt the following command.
secedit /configure /cfg %windir%\inf\defltbase.inf /db defltbase.sdb /verbose

Ramhound

it also means the usergroup your user is in isn't in it either

Security Tab -> Advanced -> "Change" owner and "add" permission entry.

^^

Freedo

@NULL try this. I've found it on windows forums to reset all permissions to default

NULL

@Freedo Yeah?

Bob

"try this, I found it in a forum" nope NOT DODGY AT ALL

Freedo

social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/…

see yourself

Ben N

12:12 AM

There is a lot of incorrect information on MS forums

Bob

More reliable source: support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/313222

NULL

thats for sure lol

Bob

Though probably a tad outdated

NULL

Im running that command you suggested...hasnt completed yet

Ramhound

It will take awhile.

Ben N

12:13 AM

You have back-ups, right?

NULL

um

Ben N

If things are royally demolished, re-installing might be the easiest course of action

NULL

Ok it finished it says:

how the do you copy in cmd

Bob

@BenN Yea, we've been through this before :P

Jun 19 '14 at 2:34, by Bob

@MichaelFrank It's MS Answers. Marginally better than Yahoo Answers. Sometimes.

Ben N

> the use of the “secedit /configure /cfg %windir%\inf\defltbase.inf /db defltbase.sdb /verbose” command line is no longer capable of resetting all security defaults and may even result in the operating system becoming unstable

Freedo

12:14 AM

control-c and control-v doesn't work with cmd

you need to use right click

Bob

Though in this case it's Technet which isn't so bad

Ramhound

Even if you do this. Your setting the incorrect permissions. Taking ownership is a "nuke from orbit" solution. The next step is to reset the ical on the profile, but if your not familiar with the process, easier to install windows again and backup the profile directory.

Bob

Apr 5 '14 at 10:02, by Bob

MSDN forums are better than TechNet forums are better than Microsoft Answers. By that, I mean you can actually find useful stuff on MSDN forums quite often, and TechNet is sometimes not useless. MS Answers is better than Yahoo Answers - that's all the praise I can give it.

NULL

The task has completed. Warnings occurred for some attributes during this operat
ion. It's okay to ignore the warning.
See log %windir%\security\logs\scesrv.log for detail info.

Ben N

@Freedo I think you can enable those shortcuts if you check something called QuickEdit in the console options dialog somewhere

Bob

12:16 AM

@BenN Welp :P

Freedo

@NULL Did it solved your problem?

Bob

System Restore might've been the better idea actually.

I can't remember if refresh creates a restore point.

Or if it deletes all of them.

NULL

No:(

Ben N

IIRC System Restore is like the system state restore on a Windows Server?

Not sure on that

Ramhound

restore point doesn't effect user files, contained in the user profile directory from my experience, but that assumes the permissions are correct.

Refresh does not

NULL

12:18 AM

Before I did this refresh thing I did a restore point before the slowness happened but it was still slow so I tried this refresh thing

Ramhound

Refresh would delete all system restore points because it, moves your files, then reinstalls Windows and moves them back

NULL

Yes well thats what happened

Ramhound

In the future come to us before you try a feature you don't fully understand :$

Could have saved you this headache or at least prepared you

NULL

haha yeah I figured what could go wrong with a windows menu option

Freedo

just try the registry hack so you can take ownership of everything important

backup it

and do a clean install

Ramhound

12:21 AM

@NULL - You didn't fully read the warnings. You also performed an operation while had a problem. Refresh is a great feature but like any feature, it can not work, if there are existing problems.

"1050" 4GB card, $150 price point. If I were SLI these together, besides the CUDA cores different, it seems like a better deal to me

Same price too

NULL

Ok I made a restore point now I am going for the registry tool

Freedo

I still recommend to backup everything important and do a clean install after

Journeyman Geek

@Ramhound assuming they sli. I seem to remember the 50 suffix does not.

Burgi

superuser.com/review/low-quality-posts/580208

Bob

12:39 AM

@Ramhound Eh, I've attempted to provide a reasonably comprehensive answer. Hopefully reduce some of the confusion around Type-C charging. superuser.com/a/1131553/117590

Hm. Maybe I should've done this on a better (self-answered?) question.

Psycogeek

I think someone called me an idiot today, but the web calls so many people so many things, I didn't even notice :-)
Dude, I live on the web, your going to have to throw some 4 letter and 7 letter words in there also, to make your point. And do it all in caps too.

NULL

1:09 AM

I installed the Take Ownership thing but it didn't work...I tried to take ownership of a Pic and it even says I have read/write permisions but I cant open it

This is bad...every file I see says ASUS has ownership and readwrite privs

but I cant open

Cause it says access denied

lol

bwDraco

1:44 AM

Damn Intel HD Graphics driver.

Two BSODs in less than five minutes.

Psycogeek

IMO they could have put 14,000 lines of code into windows7 to make error messages useful again, and people would buy that over another cutsie 1 bit icons change and other additions that are real fun, but dont get down to the meat.

But i donno, i know what i would pay for as an advancement. they must know what the (general) people wanted, because they FORCED it down thier throats :-)

EMOTE bsods, were high on the lists i was reading :-)

:)
windows had an error.
But it wasnt a really bad one
This time.

bwDraco

2:42 AM

Printer ink is expensive as heck, but the R&D behind it isn't cheap, either.

Consider that HP spends $1b on ink R&D a year.

The price you're paying for the printer is probably not much more than the BOM cost.

I know folks hate expensive ink, but I want consistent reliability.

computer.howstuffworks.com/printer-ink4.htm

Ink chemistry is hard. Really hard.

One reason the ColorLok paper specification exists is to make HP's R&D easier:

Mar 9 at 3:52, by bwDraco

I always wondered about the point of ColorLok Technology, given that most commerically available general-purpose printing paper has it. After some thought, it dawned upon me why they have this paper quality standard: it's so that printer manufacturers can design their printing systems, inks, toners, etc. with certain assumptions about the paper quality.

ColorLok basically specifies certain paper additives to speed drying and improve print quality, as well as certain physical and electrostatic properties of the paper.

Bob

Meh. All those arguments fall apart when manufacturers decide that ink is required for scanning.

bwDraco

@Bob There's a reason for this behavior.

2

A: How to print in black and white when a color ink cartridge is out of ink

This depends on the printer. On many printers with printheads built in, ink must be in the printhead at all times to prevent damage, although there may be a limited reserve of ink available for temporary printing. From what I know, some newer HP printers, even IIC models where the printhead is ...

This is not the first time I've said this...

Scanning doesn't consume ink, but there has to be ink in the system at all times.

> If a thermal inkjet printhead is operated dry, it can literally burn itself out and fail.

This can't be emphasized enough.

Bob

Meh. You've emphasised it more than enough.

These are multifunctions with printheads built in to the cartridges.

In other words, disposable.

bwDraco

That's a different story and is likely a design fault.

Bob

Or intentional.

bwDraco

2:57 AM

By "design fault", I mean that the "ink depleted" error is modal and inadvertently blocks other functionality.

However, it seems the models I've used provide a means to dismiss the error and allow the user to continue using non-printing features.

At least Epson allows this.

Not too sure with my HP Officejet Pro 8630, but I believe I can still scan with depleted cartridges.

Psycogeek

@bwDraco lol HP and the others spent 1b$ on ink R&D just trying to figure out one more way to put DRM into the cartriges, so they can rape you for ink prices.

bwDraco

Let's not be such a cynic.

On to another question: if a sign-up form requires a company name to be specified, does this mean that the service provider refuses service to individuals signing up independently of a company?

Psycogeek

Do you seriously think that HP Jet ink has changed that much to justify the money otherwise?

bwDraco

What if I enter something like "Individual" into the field and give a low number for the company size?

Can I get in trouble for attempting to sign up as an unaffiliated individual?

What about TechTarget requiring corporate email addresses for their content?

Ultimately, why do service providers restrict access to online content to company representatives (even if I, as an individual, can pay the cost if the content is paywalled)?

Example: action-intell.com/membership-sign-up/?s2-ssl=yes

A title and company name are required.

Aibobot

@bwDraco some reject 'foo@gmail/outlook' accounts

Some may call you to try to do sales calls

I routinely use "lupinenet technologies" or my dad's defunct firm for things like that tho

bwDraco

3:08 AM

Why can't I, acting as an individual without affiliation with any particular company, simply pay the $299 and sign up?

Aibobot

sure

Psycogeek

there is a solution to your aggrandizing and feeling like you need to donate to these fine corporations. Work for them, do the jobs they tell you to do.

Aibobot

sure

hell, in many places you can start a company for 2 dollars

bwDraco

(Not that I would, but I feel that's locking out content from interested individuals willing to pay but are not doing this on behalf of any particular company.)

Psycogeek

@bwDraco just ask em? hey if i pay you $300 a year will you give me as an individual the same stuff you gave everyone else ? Cant guess what that answer will be :-)

it is probably much like buying 1500-60,000 specialty software, thier market is specific, and advertised as such, but everyones money is still good enough for them to take.

bwDraco

3:25 AM

$6k for a Visual Studio Enterprise 2015 license (with one-year MSDN), but Microsoft doesn't care who's buying.

Psycogeek

good example

bwDraco

(I hold a DreamSpark license for Enterprise 2015, but have been phasing it out since I've graduated.)

I've moved to open-source toolchains and NetBeans. I'd probably get the free Community edition when that desktop finally happens.

Psycogeek

3:37 AM

hanging out around more regular people, i see they run windows 10, i just lightly mention oh, your running 10, they immediatly say "I didnt do that, it did it by itself" geesh, was it really that bad, that you have to blame others :-)

Aibobot

hmm

theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/10/4/13100592/… these look nice

only walked 4800 steps today, Doing PC refresh rather than dead machine duty \o/

Freedo

is this website off for your guys too?

thelinuxfoundation.org

Aibobot

@Freedo its been having issues

Freedo

Oh I was thinking I was under attack

Aibobot

go.thelinuxfoundation works, click.thelinuxfoundation does not

Freedo

3:40 AM

good to know it's not me thanks

Aibobot

its annoying. I'm toying with signing up for one of their bundles to do during downtimes

Bob

@Aibobot I think comGateway stuffed up

Aibobot

:(

how?

Bob

I had two packages. Asked to have them shipped to me.

Both were in the list.

Today, one of them arrived back at the warehouse?!

Aibobot

0_0

we've never had issues with em

bwDraco

3:46 AM

@Freedo Down. DNS errors.

Bob

@Aibobot Murphy's Law, Bob Edition

:\

Aibobot

lol

Bob

why can't something just go smoothly for once

Aibobot

heh. I may need to bug fisher again at the end of the week, re the damaged headphone band

bwDraco

Will be meeting with a job club tomorrow to develop soft skills. Availability in the afternoon to evening tomorrow (morning for JMG) will be limited.

Bob

4:02 AM

@Aibobot whaaaaaaaaaaaaat. they think my USB (wall!) chargers have lithium batteries in them?!

Aibobot

0_0

Any way to clear that up?

Bob

@Aibobot not a clue. talking to live chat now

Aibobot

(also, is my switching accounts confusing?)

Bob

@Aibobot somewhat

Kristin:
[11:59:53]- I see that an email was sent to you today regarding the status of your shipment. On our email, we informed you that we removed package RCPTA0000000000000 as it contains loose lithium battery. As per IATA regulation of shipping loose lithium battery, a package containing this, should be shipped alone in shipment, meaning it cannot be shipped with any other packages.
Bob:
[12:00:09]- wait, what?
Kristin:
[12:00:14]- We removed the package so you can ship it separetly.
Bob:
[12:00:20]- the package doesn contain any lithium batteries!

also, the email didn't mention the reason either -_-

Aibobot

(tempted to rename the user workingmangeek or something)

erf

Bob

4:08 AM

@Aibobot erf?

Aibobot

hopefully they ship the stuff and give you credit or somethijg

oh erf for you

I've not seen the inside of a dusty pc alllllll day

Psycogeek

@Bob they saw that ferrite bead on the usb cables, it is round :-) like a battery , so it must be one , we just cut it off and shipped it seperate

Bob

gad, how slowly can people type...

Psycogeek

Bob

Kristin:
[12:16:07]- Our team marks the charger as loose batteries. May I ask if these chargers also act like powerbanks?

O_O

Psycogeek

4:15 AM

at least that makes "more" sence. most of the li-ion shipping regulations though, dont have a big problem with batts that are properly IN devices?

Bob

@Psycogeek nah, powerbanks count as "loose"

that one I already knew

Aibobot

"Your team is clearly mouthbreathing idiots who couldn't find their own rears with a map and a trained smurf" ;p

Psycogeek

when i have raw cells shipped here though, they come with enough warnings wrapped around the package to protect it alone, and it gets shipped all by itself in a huge UPS van with built in bomb disposal unit :-)

Aibobot

I mean "No, its not a powerbank. It dosen't have any cells, and ought have been shipped with the other things

Psycogeek

paranoid much?

Aibobot

4:20 AM

@Psycogeek lots of places won't send cells cross border now

Psycogeek

funny the regs are because of poorly packaged china crap, and cant guess who doesnt follow any of the regulations :-)

Bob

@Psycogeek Actually, yea. I have a powerbank coming from china... I think they're just gonna toss it in standard airmail :\

Ramhound

The heck...I just got a twitter feed in my action center

Psycogeek

it is one perk from buying there.

Ramhound

Great..I don't even use twitter

LoL silenced them but now don't know where that list is either

Rahul2001

4:26 AM

hi

Psycogeek

so your not a twit ? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=twit
"twit
The kind of person that makes a retarded chimp look smart."

Ramhound

Apparently Twitter was installed. Right Click - Uninstall -> Thank You

Bob

@Aibobot gotta wait a day or two for them to check :\

Aibobot

4:49 AM

:(

Freedo

Anyone ever tried to run remote desktop software without admin rights?

Aibobot

that sounds like a terrible idea

Freedo

I would love to remote control one pc in my office which I would prefer to have the employers using non-admin accounts. Is a workaround feasible?

Aibobot

and, we're back in the realm of 'ask a question on the main site'

sounds like a decent problem definition

Psycogeek

ya think PETA will have a problem if i kill a squirrel that DESERVED it ?
3 days i have waited for that huge strawberry to ripen, and the lil' bugger just ran off with it.

Aibobot

4:55 AM

@Psycogeek who dares wins. That squirrel showed bravery and puck

Freedo

my questions never get attention on the main site

Aibobot

5:09 AM

hmm. Anyone got a xp box around?

Psycogeek

5:26 AM

@Aibobot yes, so a great warrier deserves a prime location, Head on the pole?

@Aibobot i think i can fire one up.

it is not very normal though, about 150 services and drivers are disabled (but works 100% without them)

Journeyman Geek

@Psycogeek I need to see if %username% and wmic printer work

Psycogeek

ok

put %username% in CMD it resolved to the persons name who once used that computer.

WMIC said, wait while it installs it, then went into some wmic shell thing in the cmd window ??? dont really know what that even is.

putting printer in then, shows some printer attributes

let me go back and do "wmic printer" instead

ok that worked, different. showed all the printers and thier attributes.

in some DOSey looking mess

Journeyman Geek

Ah. Good.

Psycogeek

5:46 AM

@Freedo Want me to bounty them? I got free rep for bounties for Good Questions, that are complete and explained and answerable, and have to be a day old.

XKCD

6:50 AM

'Copy and paste from a random thread on a website' is the hardest to predict, and depends on the specific website, programming language, tone of the description, and current phase of the moon.

2

djsmiley2k

yawn

Burgi

7:31 AM

morning

djsmiley2k

8:24 AM

So was this the job that you thought you screwed up and they were gonna nuke you anyway?

Burgi

not sure

any context?

i haven't screwed anything up

djsmiley2k

maybe it wasn't you

:/

Why they letting you go? :/

Burgi

8:43 AM

"politics"

i'll find out this afternoon

DavidPostill

@Burgi It's definite you are going?

djsmiley2k

8:58 AM

Ewwww

Burgi

@DavidPostill no, but planning for the worst

DavidPostill

Good luck and fingers crossed (unless you want to leave of course) ...

Burgi

i'd rather stay because finding a new job is a hassle

thanks btw

Rahul2001

9:14 AM

hey

@Burgi Good luck

Burgi

ty

arda

9:28 AM

@Burgi GL

Rahul2001

Someone recommend a good webcomic please

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 xkcd?

Lists of webcomics

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Rahul2001

@DavidPostill Already read most of them :)

DavidPostill

<shrug>

!! s/please/I haven't read yet please/

ChatBot John Cavil

@DavidPostill Someone recommend a good webcomic I haven't read yet please (source)

DavidPostill

9:41 AM

@Rahul2001 Now you can see your question is impossible to answer :)

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill I've only read XKCD and QC

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 So now go read Wikipedia and take your pick.

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill Unfortunately, Wikipedia doesn't rate them, and really don't feel like going through the 16 separate lists it has

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 You also haven't define what you mean by "good" and what genres you like. VTC as too broad :)

Rahul2001

Good: funny/geeky/school life/WWI and II

DavidPostill

9:49 AM

@Rahul2001 http://www.pcgamer.com/the-34-best-webcomics-for-geeks/

Category:School webcomics

Webcomics primarily set in a school, college or other educational institution....

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill Thanks!

Bob

@JourneymanGeek games tonight? in, say, 1-2hrs?

Rahul2001

WTH? virtualshackles.com

Burgi

@Rahul2001 sluggy.com

DavidPostill

There's an echo in here.

Burgi

9:58 AM

adweek.com/adfreak/…

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill Sorry, slow connection

DavidPostill

@Burgi Where is the NSFW warning? :)

Burgi

didn't think it needed one

there is a girl showing a bit of cleavage which is part of fake instagram account to prompt awareness of alcoholism

arda

@Rahul2001 check out bluechair. That's nice for everyone

Journeyman Geek

10:21 AM

@Bob just left work. Should be good methinks.

@Rahul2001 404

Oliver Salzburg

11:03 AM

1

A: Storage location of yellow-blue shield icon

I wanted to point it out explicitly. You are supposed to put a shield on UI elements that will trigger an elevation: MSDN: Step 4: Redesign Your UI for UAC Compatibility. Of course, you don't have to go spelunking around DLLs to extract images (although it certainly does make it easier at desi...

Pretty extensive answer on a 6-year old question of mine :P

djsmiley2k

@Burgi I don't get the link o_O

DavidPostill

@OliverSalzburg Worth a bounty? :)

djsmiley2k

alcoholism and bewb?

Journeyman Geek

hoooome

@djsmiley2k the idea I think is that no one noticed she's a boozaholic

djsmiley2k

o right

I've not clicked as at work

Oliver Salzburg

11:13 AM

@DavidPostill I'm not going to give my hard earned rep to some 80k user! :D

DavidPostill

@OliverSalzburg lol

Oliver Salzburg

And I stopped caring about that information a long time ago :P

The project I used this for was downloaded 0 times this year :(

Potato Cat

@OliverSalzburg That deserves ALL THE UPVOTES

Journeyman Geek

@Bob ping

Potato Cat

11:35 AM

@Burgi I like her addiction

djsmiley2k

SO the google stuff looks kinda nice

But my only worry is that they'll just drop support for it one day

Bob

@JourneymanGeek pong

Potato Cat

pang

DavidPostill

@Bob time to clean out the foxes litter tray :)

Burgi

12:29 PM

this looks brilliant: arstechnica.co.uk/the-multiverse/2016/09/…

DavidPostill

Spam for your flagging superuser.com/questions/1131700/email-marketingemail-checker

Burgi

Flaggity Flag Flag of Flaggington — Burgi 12 secs ago

Potato Cat

12:45 PM

@Burgi Flagged your comment as non-constructive

Burgi

heh

Boris_yo

Grrr...

Option 1

It does not work...

Potato Cat

?

Option 1

Was that what you were trying to do?

Boris_yo

Yes but several links in same message.

Looks like formatting gets stripped.

Potato Cat

Option 1 Option 2 Option 3

Boris_yo

12:52 PM

So I will have to do one by one.

Option 2

Potato Cat

Worksforme

Boris_yo

Option 3

Bag advice? Or should I say sling bag advice? I never had bag of such styles.

Potato Cat

Option 1 Option 2 Option 3

Boris_yo

See it did not work for you too?

Potato Cat

Newlines... newlines break markdown

Boris_yo

12:53 PM

Unless you put everything in one line.

Yes,

So which bag would you get?

Potato Cat

I'd guess 2 but I can't really see a huge difference

(Not looking into detail at pockets/features/etc.)

Boris_yo

On first 2 small bags diagonal zipper on the back is better than vertical. Because when unzipping everything might fallout from horizontal.

@PotatoCat I like 2 as well but it has issue with metal latch on top. It is loose and releases with some bulk weight. I was wondering if I can replace it with another of mine.

Potato Cat

Oh yeah, I had diagonal ones myself

Didn't notice the third had a horizontal thing

Boris_yo

@PotatoCat Diagonal are better isn't it?

Burgi

we broke my minion :D

Potato Cat

12:57 PM

Is the latch structural? IT just looks like a cosmetic flap to me

@Burgi Your minion got fired?

Burgi

no

we fed him ultra hot sauce

Boris_yo

@PotatoCat Can you see photo? amazon.com/review/R3V10JTDQUSGF6

Burgi

he's disappeared to the toilet with severe hiccups and looking very worried

Potato Cat

@Boris_yo Yeah but I still don't see what it holds

Boris_yo

The bag I need would be the one to hold firm against my body while accomodating as much stuff as possible. The bag should not wiggle when I walk fast or run while allowing me to remain dextrous.

@PotatoCat I think it does not have particular function other than decorative and hold flap that is also decorative?

Burgi

1:02 PM

if you have a hairy chest you can use velcro to stick your laptop to you

2

Boris_yo

I am not good at moding textiles.

Potato Cat

@Boris_yo That's what i figured... so not too important

Boris_yo

@PotatoCat Any reason you don't like Option 1 besides it not having pockets of enough size to accomodate bigger stuff?

Do Option 2 and Option 3 appear of same style?

Journeyman Geek

1:25 PM

They are all ugly ;p

NULL

If I know the MAC address of a client connected to my router and I spoof my MAC to that MAC with another device, and deauth the first device how does the router know not to let me on...since the other already authenticated..how does the router keep track of devices besides MAC to prevent other devices tricking it?

Bob

@NULL eh, each frame is encrypted. you wouldn't know the key

djsmiley2k

@Burgi now HR want a word ;)

@NULL associate macs to ports

unless it's wireless.

Bob

1:47 PM

@djsmiley2k deauth implies wireless

Potato Cat

@Bob 802.1x works just as well wired

djsmiley2k