Puzzles Etc.

Yeah, though I'm only working on one project. At my previous job, I was usually working on 3-4 at once, so I needed the tab groups to separate my research.

manshu

wow. they let you do puzzling there. It's cool

Khale_Kitha

I do it while I'm waiting on things in the background, honestly. I setup my visual studio so the height is just low enough that I can see this tab to see when there's updates.

manshu

so it means that there is always something in the background

Khale_Kitha

7:13 PM

@question_asker You made my Excel upset. It's taking 2-3 minutes to open a simple CSV file today.

Yeah

manshu

nice :)

Khale_Kitha

I use a feature from DisplayFusion, also, that lets me scroll windows without clicking them, first.

So I can scroll between the tabs, or read other things, without clickingo n them

lol

manshu

how much memory does it take. Does it slow your PC?

Khale_Kitha

DisplayFusion?

manshu

yeah

Khale_Kitha

7:16 PM

It takes about 80Mb - but that's not it's sole purpose.

manshu

Yeah..I just checked

Khale_Kitha

It's a multimonitor utility for moving windows around, rearranging things, showing the taskbar a certain way, etc.

manshu

It's not free

Khale_Kitha

No, I purchased it a few years ago

The devs let me use it on my work PC and my home PC, as long as I'm the only one using it (I asked)

manshu

nice :)

@question_asker Do you also puzzle while at work?

Khale_Kitha

7:19 PM

I think he got busy

manshu

haha

Khale_Kitha

He disappears, though, at about exactly 5pm EST everyday, so I'd guess "yes" lol

manshu

What's the time right now in US?

Khale_Kitha

3:20 for him

question_asker

yes I do

manshu

7:22 PM

here is the groom

question_asker

and yeah, I tend to disappear sometime between 4 and 5 EST, as that's when I'm going home

Khale_Kitha

Yeah, that's what I meant =D

question_asker

:D

Khale_Kitha

I actually keep SE on my phone, so I hear when you guys contact me when I'm driving, but I ignore my phone, in the car.

manshu

When are you gonna sit in your car then?

Khale_Kitha

7:23 PM

When will then, be now?

manshu

I am just loving the meta question about offence. I can smell the fight from far away

Matt

soon

manshu

And I am gonna enjoy it for sure

Khale_Kitha

Haha, Matt. You just pop in with the perfect interjections.

manshu

reload your pop-corns

Khale_Kitha

7:26 PM

Don't run off, just yet, Matt - I have something for you

manshu

@Matt Do you also do puzzling while at work?

Khale_Kitha

Oh no!

Matt

sometimes

I also work

question_asker

that meta question is either going to be ugly or get totally ignored lol

Khale_Kitha

Sapience apparently left Lord of the Rings Online, a while back, and I didn't notice...

Matt

7:27 PM

at home, I usual just play games

Khale_Kitha

Well anyways - someone copied the info from his profile onto a page.

lotro.com/en/content/brief-history-time-according-sapience

Please keep in mind; the measurements below are highly accurate (as are their relationships to each other). However, the descriptions are for entertainment purposes only. Unless you win money, then you owe me 10%.

**NOW!**

Never gonna happen!

**At some point in the future (also; At some point)**

We’re in pure Nostradamus territory here. We have a magic 8 ball and even it said, “Ask again later”.

**In the future**

This isn’t going to happen during any variety of soon you care to use. In fact, it’s pretty far out there. Not as far as ‘at some point’, but we’re certainly not suggesting y…

2

So you can star it.

manshu

@question_asker we are gonna have fun.

That meta post is especially for me.

Matt

wait, why is this important?

manshu

@Matt Can you suggest any game under 2GB for PC

Khale_Kitha

Because it's information that must never be lost, now that Sapience is gone.

Magicka

I can name a lot of them

More if I could connect to my PC at home :P

FTL

Matt

7:30 PM

^

Khale_Kitha

Half Minute Hero

Matt

nidhogg

super meat boy

Khale_Kitha

There's quite a few games under 300Mb

question_asker

VVVVVV

Matt

rocket league is recommends 2GB

and I recommend rocket league

question_asker

7:31 PM

I gave up on super meat boy early on, but it's fun if you can deal with repeated failure

Khale_Kitha

Tried that on PS4 and didn't like it (rocket league) - at least on a controller.

Yeah, I got through about 30 levels before I refused to move another inch, q_a

question_asker

hahaha

VVVVVV has a dope soundtrack too

Khale_Kitha

I think I played a game like VVVVVV back in the 80's

lol

question_asker

and if you don't want to play it, at least do yourself the favor of watching some TAS runs of it

Matt

emulated games from snes, etc

Khale_Kitha

7:32 PM

TAS?

Omg, Matt

Matt

tool assisted speedruns

Khale_Kitha

I ran into a game, the other day - my new favorite game of all time

(ah, right)

question_asker

what he said

Khale_Kitha

Brawhalla

question_asker

I mean, watch regular speedruns if you want, but a TAS is going to be flawless and beautiful

Khale_Kitha

7:33 PM

It's basically an improved version of Super Smash Bros with internet play

Matt

project M

Khale_Kitha

Well that's because they have to, q_a, since they are done in slow motion

Matt

or 20xx

Khale_Kitha

Still done in slow motion, though - the commands are entered in while the game isn't moving, in an emulator.

Test, repeat, test, repeat, etc

Matt

TASers play through a game frame by frame, and use input scripting tools to achieve perfect (and in some cases, humanly impossible) inputs to get through a game as fast as possible

it's not always beatiful

Khale_Kitha

7:35 PM

yeah

Matt

it's almost always broken

Khale_Kitha

As for 20xx - seems nice - but I actually like the improvements done in Brawlhalla

Matt

impossible being something like left + right contemporaneously

question_asker

no, I know how TASing works

manshu

Thank you all

Khale_Kitha

7:35 PM

Each character has two weapons, with unique abilities determined by what's equipped (or if unequipped) and weapons drop randomly in the maps, so it's also a race to get to the weapons, or keep them away from people.

question_asker

what I'm saying is that the end product often looks incredibly nice

Khale_Kitha

Yeah

Matt

more games

manshu

I have bookmarked this convo. : chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/37632/…

Matt

The Stanley Parable

geometry wars

Khale_Kitha

7:36 PM

Stanley Parable is decent

Matt

keep talking and nobody explodes (I really like this one)

Khale_Kitha

Though most of my time was spent just trying to get achievements

Haven't tried it, yet

Matt

SP blew my mind haha

Khale_Kitha

omg at the stars

Matt

idk how big besiege is

Khale_Kitha

7:37 PM

Die stars!

manshu

Unreal Tournament

Matt

cities skylines? probably not

Khale_Kitha

Heck, if you really want to get into it...

(No, not at all, Matt)

Commander Keen

:P

That was the first game I played with CGA+ graphics

Matt

I had a few dos games

way back

hoyle

manshu

like DAVE

Khale_Kitha

7:38 PM

Haha, I remember the Hoyle games

Matt

some kind of pinball ...

it was race car themed

manshu

that's windows xp game

Khale_Kitha

I remember one Windows 95 (or 3.1?) game where you played a Roach

Matt

no, not this one

Khale_Kitha

Trying to solve a murder of a person dead in the room where you started.

I don't remember the game, but I still have the demo disk.

Matt

7:39 PM

the space cadet pinball game was included in later versions of windows

question_asker

chiming in that I liked stanley parable

it was cute and fun

Khale_Kitha

You're meaning Epic Pinball, I think

question_asker

I'm a person who likes things that gamers get mad about, though

Matt

sounds familiar

things to get mad about?

haha

I wanna be the boshy.

^ precision platformer based on memorization of ever-creative traps

Khale_Kitha

I dislike memorization games

question_asker

7:42 PM

I mean: I thought Gone Home was fine

Khale_Kitha

That's why I didn't like Super Meat Boy et al

manshu

Anyone played Road-rash?

Khale_Kitha

Gone Home was an interesting ...well non-game, really

question_asker

I thought various other "it's not a game!!!!!!!!!!!!" games were good

Khale_Kitha

Yes, very much, mushu

I think Gone Home is really just a 3d digital novel - a game without a genre, per se

Matt

7:42 PM

I dislike games on rails

Khale_Kitha

A digital novel, albeit, where you can miss clues if you don't look around

Matt

I like sandboxes

and car games

Khale_Kitha

I like some games on rails, and I like some sandboxes.

Unequivocally, there are games in both genres that I hate.

I greatly dislike open-world for the sake of open-world, though.

Oh look, it's a world. Go do something.

Matt

how about open world for the sake of blowing things up?

Khale_Kitha

Okay, I'll do something.

Matt

7:44 PM

just cause 3

Khale_Kitha

Uninstalls

The just cause games were cute during their 15 minute demos

but I never saw reason to purchase the game.

question_asker

I bought JC2 when it was $2

Khale_Kitha

lol

question_asker

I didn't get very far because I died at some point in the beginning literally immediately in front of a turret gun

Matt

me too, actually

question_asker

7:45 PM

which would be fine if I could respawn literally anywhere else

Khale_Kitha

The AI in JC2 was too much of a joke to enjoy the game, to me.

Matt

but it was never about the AI

Khale_Kitha

Haha, that reminds me of a section a few of us got stuck in, in Skyforge, q_a.

We ran past this group of enemies and got killed by them. However, the problem was this...

We spawned about 10ft from them - in their aggro radius...INSIDE the boss dome. So they both spawn, and if we died (we did 20+ times) we respawned in that spot again.

Took a lot of strategy to finally get outselves out of that situation.

The situation was caused by the level bugging out, but it was still an experience. LoL

question_asker

hahahaha yow

Khale_Kitha

I simply meant, Matt, because I didn't like being "seen" by everything in the game from miles away, regardless of which direction they were facing.

question_asker

7:48 PM

JC2 seems like it would be fun the same way all the GTA games seem like they'd be fun to me

Khale_Kitha

Hahahahahaa

Look at Q_A's comment on his most recent puzzle.

question_asker

They seem like they'd be fun if I could just skip all the bullshit introductory quests

yeah, that is awesome

Matt

you want frustrating, I had a spiderman game for pc years ago that was literally unplayable

Khale_Kitha

I've had a few of those - heh

Matt

get through the short first stage, enter the loading zone for the first boss' cutscene

spiderman was intended to crash through the window in the cutscene

Khale_Kitha

7:50 PM

(Hey @manshu were you limited by USB drive limit?)

Matt

the window broke, but spiderman never entered

Khale_Kitha

lol

Gotta love that

Matt

then you spawn outside the building

and fall to your death

without fail

uninstalls

Khale_Kitha

I remember the beta for Asheron's Call 2, before they abandoned the game, then remade it and released it (then cancelled it)

manshu

@Khale_Kitha ahh..what?

Khale_Kitha

7:52 PM

Crafting in that game required 4-5 items to craft anything, you only had an inventory of 6 items, and everything you picked up was better than anything you could craft. Ther wasn't much else to do in the game, besides it. Lol

(manshu) the reason for your question, previously?

question_asker

OK so Emrakul's answer on that meta question is really good

manshu

@question_asker you just ruined this whole topic

@Khale_Kitha which question

question_asker

manshu you are so cruel

Khale_Kitha

@Matt So I think that the hint has to do with looking at your hands when you type.

manshu

evil laugh

Khale_Kitha

7:53 PM

regarding games under 2Gb, manshu

Matt

too late

I already fixed it

manshu

oh...I was reading the messages...

Khale_Kitha

hehe

manshu

now I am gonna bookmark this whole chat for future references

Khale_Kitha

Anyone familiar with n-gram?

Dailey asked a question, regarding it, on my coin puzzle, and i don't have time to do the research, right now, to figure out what all it involves to answer him

Everytime I see webpages like this, I want to delete them.

Matt

7:55 PM

brb (thought I'd let you know this time)

question_asker

like which?

Khale_Kitha

homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/lzhang10/ngram.html

manshu

n-gram is a google tool to compare words

question_asker

nice.

a webpage created in 1996 and never updated

(I assume)

Khale_Kitha

feels that way, aside from the reference dates

Ah - I think my answer to him is no, then manshu

manshu

7:57 PM

hehe

Khale_Kitha

Oh..I think he's trying to get n-gram from gram....

But that's not an encoding...

bah.

manshu

books.google.com/ngrams

Here

Khale_Kitha

Yeah, seen links to that before

Had(have) no idea what it's about

manshu

The word 'Frankenstein' was being used even before 1800, that's strange

Dailey really wants your puzzle solved

Khale_Kitha

Frankenstein (disambiguation)

The German name Frankenstein commonly refers to various aspects of a 19th-century novel written by Mary Shelley, but was originally a place name. Both uses include: == The novel == Frankenstein, the title of Mary Shelley's 1818 novel, subtitled The Modern Prometheus Victor Frankenstein, the title character of Shelley's novel Frankenstein's monster, the character that is the subject of Shelley's novel == Castles == Frankenstein Castle, Hesse, a 13th-century hilltop castle near Darmstadt, Germany, speculated to be the eponym for Shelley's novel Frankenstein Castle, Palatinate, a 12th-cent...

13th, 12th century et al

manshu

8:04 PM

aahh..

Khale_Kitha

8:18 PM

I'm sorry...

I'm very upset with Frontier, too...

But this guy's name just really puts the joke to any complaints he makes:

Butthurt McGee ‏@butthurt_mcgee Apr 4

@FrontierCorp @Kopfhamer hey frontier Corp. is this all just a cruel April fools joke? Seriously can't believe how bad y'all are

Any further ideas for the puzzles, @manshu?

manshu

Use any famous game. I know which one I am gonna choose for my next puzzle

Khale_Kitha

lol

I meant for solving either of mine =D

manshu

damn...I just gave away a hint...even before posting a puzzle

Khale_Kitha

Coming up on 100+ hours of no service from Frontier ><

and lol, manshu

manshu