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12:00 AM
@egreg Thankfully, no. :) There was a baptism today, but the priest decided to recite it instead of singing. :)
 
My parish has 7 masses each Sunday; plus the Saturday festive one.
 
How nice! :)
 
They were 8, until some years ago; but they decided to cut off the 7am mass: almost nobody went to it.
 
I'd like to have another mass on Sunday, but unfortunately we don't have enough people to work on the liturgy. I play in all the masses we have.
@egreg: Speaking of litanies, one day, we had a visiting priest. Then in the middle of the mass he asked me to sing the litany. My songbook wasn't there that day. I started looking at the altars "hunting" for saints. I was singing: "Saint... er... er... ELISABETH OF HUNGARY..."
 
@PauloCereda At the time many kings, emperors and nobles became saints. My patron saint was a German emperor and also his wife is a saint: Saint Cunigunde of Luxembourg. They're buried in a wonderful church in Bamberg, Bavaria.
It has also a magnificent organ and the Mass there was very interesting, even if I didn't understand the homily.
 
12:16 AM
How nice! The church looks fantastic. Well, I think every church in Europe is beautiful. :)
Organs! I never got to play organ. :) There's a beautiful one in the Monastery of Saint Benedict, in São Paulo. They sing Gregorian chants. :)
 
@PauloCereda Oh, no: there are some modern ones that are terribly awful. Others are disputable, also among the ancient ones. But ancient towns have several beautiful churches. In Venice there are at least 10 of the highest quality, and maybe 20 that are very beautiful. The simply beautiful are hard to count. One is always surprised at seeing how many churches there are in Venice.
@PauloCereda I once was at a Mass in a Benedictin monastery in Tuscany. Almost two hours! But very spiritual.
That monastery has also an important cycle of frescoes in a cloister: Monte Uliveto Maggiore.
 
@egreg Ah, surely Italy has marvellous churches! My mom has an old photo of her first communion in front of a church, it seems to be Santa Maria Assunta. Seems to be a beautiful place.
 
@PauloCereda Was it in Bologna?
 
@egreg I think so, my mom is from Monghidoro. :)
 
12:32 AM
 
@egreg It is! How did you find it? :)
 
@PauloCereda Googling for "Santa Maria Assunta Monghidoro"
 
@egreg Ah. :)
@egreg: I'd love to visit the basilicas of Our Lady of Guadalupe, our Lady of Fatima, San Francesco d'Assisi and Sant'Antonio di Padova. :)
 
@PauloCereda The church was built in the '50s, because the old church had been damaged during the war. Monghidoro was on the "Gothic line", the last line of resistence of the Wehrmacht.
All those villages on the mountains south of Bologna suffered heavy bombing.
The church of St. Anthony in Lisbon is not in my list of beautiful churches, I'm afraid. It's an anonymous baroque building. But the Lisbon cathedral is among the finest.
 
@egreg Ah, I had no idea. My mom once told me my nonno was deaf because of the bombing.
@egreg And the one in Padua? :)
 
12:45 AM
@PauloCereda I can believe it. :(
@PauloCereda It's a mixture of gothic and romanesque; it has many domes and is very characteristic. Inside there are gorgeous bronze statues by Donatello and many other works of art: it's 700 years old, after all.
Now it's bed time; I'll let Mozart's oboe concerto finish.
 
@egreg Have a good night! Buonanotte! :)
 
 
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7:42 AM
@lockstep Thanks! Came a little bit earlier than I thought.
@egreg, @PauloCereda, @wh1t3: Thanks guys.
 
8:06 AM
That message will keep me happy for the rest of the day (or year?:-).
Wow, the other golden badges are hard to get as well. Marshal would be actually doable over time, but as Moderator I hardly have the chance to flag.
 
@MartinScharrer Congratulations, just saw the update on the main page...
 
@MartinScharrer needs only one hour of sleep ;)
 
@Andy ;-) Why? I was gone for over 9 hours.
 
@N3buchadnezzar Looking at your latest question, I must ask: Er du norsk?
 
8:33 AM
@MartinScharrer Congratulation.
egreg will be the next one ;-)
I have a question: This question leads to a new package How to switch between two margin sizes. What a good name for such a package?
 
8:52 AM
@AndrewStacey He is, and a student at NTNU if I'm not mistaken. (I know him from a Norwegian forum.)
 
@TorbjørnT Slowly but surely the Norwegians are taking over
 
@MarcoDaniel How about fullwidth, since it could supersede the fullwidth environment... just a suggestion.
 
@Werner fullwidth sound goog. I will try my luck to create a package ;-)
 
9:11 AM
hmmm, need 1 more TikZ answer for my tag-badge. As long as it doesn't score worse than -11 that is.
 
9:40 AM
@wh1t3 Convert your comment on my question tex.stackexchange.com/q/34729/86 to an answer: that'll give you another TikZ answer. I don't think that that would work in the most general case (where one picture really is a sub-picture of the other) but would work where the two are more "side by side". Nonetheless, I think that it would still be a suitable answer for this question.
 
9:57 AM
@AndrewStacey: In what sense would it not be a sub-picture?
 
@wh1t3 When I try to imagine what you're suggesting then I imagine that you'd define the two separately in the code, so each could only refer to the other in a static way. You couldn't define a bit of the first picture, then the second, and then return to the first (at least, not easily). You'd need to do this if you wanted to position the second depending on some other stuff in the first, and then position later stuff in the first depending on the size of the second.
But maybe I'm picturing it all wrong, which is why I want to see an example.
 
@AndrewStacey: Hmm, I don't directly see a way to accomplish that.
perhaps the first (sub) picture can be put in a box, then used in the second picture. That way the position can be determined in the second picture and it's width is known and can be used after it is placed to influence later stuff in the second picture...
Let me see if I can whip up an example
 
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Q: Weird E letter? (sigma)

tina nyaaMy school's prescribed book uses the weird letter E character without explaining what it is in the first chapter when it talks about the binomial equation. I can't find it on Google either because I don't know what it means or its name. Please help me! $\huge (x+a)^n = \sum_{k=0}^{n} \binom{n}{k...

 
10:16 AM
@PauloCereda Did the OP enter the classroom at least once?
 
@egreg I don't think so. :) It's probably a new pedagogical approach, so instead of saying summation, teachers say "crazy E letter". :P
That reminds me of a famous trolling episode. Someone wrote d(>_<)b in a forum; someone then asked, "how do you get that backwards b?", and one replied, "it's called d."
 
@MarcoDaniel How about hypergeometry? Useful in the future, too, for 5-dimensional typesetting (:->)
 
@PauloCereda That's a classic from bash.org: bash.org/?330261
 
@TorbjørnT Ah! Thanks. :)
 
@PauloCereda When I recently introduced the summation symbol, there were scared faces around the classroom. :)
 
10:33 AM
@egreg I can believe it. :) I was scared with the product symbol. :)
 
@PauloCereda Just take logarithms!
Do you know the scene in GB Shaw's "In Good King Charles's Golden Days", where Newton tries to explain his servant how to do multiplications by summing logarithms?
 
@TorbjørnT rofl
 
@egreg Oh my! You are now scaring me. :)
 
@PauloCereda Also a 'rofl' for you.
 
@MartinScharrer There are quite a few cases of "ROFL" on bash.org, it's amazing what people will say on IRC.
 
10:43 AM
@PauloCereda The servant wants to buy three fish at seven pence each and doesn't know how to compute the total, because she's only accustomed to "sixpence" coins, and "sevenpence" coins don't exist. So Newton tells her that log3 is so and so, that log7 is so and so and the sum gives x, which is the logarithm of a number between 20 and 22. :)
 
@egreg Cool! I'd never thought of that. :)
 
I wonder if this post is a spam bot: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/34769/…
Already deleted, so only visible for 10k users and moderators
 
Ah, I was wondering what was so fishy there....
 
@MartinScharrer Might be.
 
11:00 AM
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Oh, I can stop the count-down!
:-)
@egreg: it seems it is neither the X or Y value
It is really 200 or more rep, while Y seems to be >200
I have two days of exactly 200rep without getting any more votes which would be lost.
They don't seem to count for the Y value.
@josephwright: I just uploaded adjustbox v0.8 to CTAN, which includes now the new clipping driver code. Thank you again for your help!
 
11:27 AM
@MartinScharrer Congrats again. I'll just wait and be glad if and when the badge will arrive. :)
 
@egreg You will get it soon!
It's just a matter of (a short) time.
 
@MartinScharrer earned at least 200 reputation on 129 days :)
 
@egreg: I still have earned at least 200 reputation on 148 days for some reason
Had the same -2 offset for the Epic badge
 
@MartinScharrer You have some unknown privilege, then. :)
 
11:51 AM
@MartinScharrer Congrats, Martin, we all knew that before the badge...
 
 
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1:02 PM
It might take a while for me to earn the Legendary badge too. I still need to reach rep cap for... er... 150 days yet.
 
1:12 PM
@PauloCereda That's less than five months!
 
 
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2:19 PM
Rep 42203 is, in octal, 122333 :)
Next step is '1223334444 = 172 865 828 :-P
 
@YiannisLazarides: I finally decided to go for it. I've already implemented some basic elements; maybe it will be ready by Thursday.
@egreg I also like 122333221 as next step.
 
@GonzaloMedina '122333221 = 21 608 081 which seems to be more affordable. At the current average it would take less than 323 years.
 
2:48 PM
@egreg It might take a little more. :)
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Q: Voting and assigning bounties in several tabs

D.RoepoI found that a bounty which I awarded ws not recorded. I assume that that has to do with the use of several tabs in Microsoft's Internet Explorer. The issue with the tabs I have already noticed once or twice when voting for questions or answers. Then the count of 'Votes cast' on my user profile...

It sounds so improbable to me.
 
@PauloCereda Do you use IE?
 
@egreg Heaven forbid! :)
 
@PauloCereda So, how can you think anything about it? The fact that something goes wrong with IE seems highly probable to me. :)
 
hmm, the new versions are relatively nice, actually
 
@egreg I suspect the behaviour is unlikely to happen because it would be more an abnormal Ajax-stuff behaviour going on than a browser issue itself. As fair as I know, there's no way of communication or exchange between tabs contents, unless of course is - again - Ajax related. Oh, maybe a persistence mechanism (cookies). :)
 
3:03 PM
@wh1t3 I was just joking.
@PauloCereda Sounds like Arabic to me. :)
 
@egreg Ah sorry. :)
 
@PauloCereda But it's nice to read those strange words. It means that there's something under the hood of the site we're using.
 
@egreg Ajax is the fancy name of asynchronous request/response processes. They happen in the background without interfering with the display and behavior of the existing page, e.g., when clicking the arrow button to upvote a question, a request is sent to the server, which "saves your action" and return a response. :)
 
@PauloCereda Quite interesting. I'm very impressed of the quality of the site.
 
@egreg Me too, it's a very nice implementation. :)
 
3:42 PM
Best alarm ever.
 
heh
 
@GonzaloMedina Good wish you luck with it. I want to submit something as well but it will not be ready before Sunday. This week is hectic at work.
 
4:00 PM
@PauloCereda I don't know why, but it reminds me of this picture
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@egreg How nice! Great design. :)
Maybe because of the sound of the horn in the end of the quarter. :)
 
@PauloCereda Yes, but you have to look at the picture with a referee attitude: don't you see the implied meaning of the bottom row? :)
 
Also, the name of the picture is a pretty strong hint :)
 
@egreg Ah, braille! :)
@wh1t3 Ah true! :)
 
@wh1t3 Maybe you don't know that I used to be a referee (now only officiating teacher)
 
4:11 PM
@egreg: I was not aware, which sport?
 
@wh1t3 Basketball
 
@egreg: Ah, that's not very big here, I always liked it in school though :)
 
4:29 PM
@MartinScharrer We'll see. Today I reached a flag weight of 700.
 
@wh1t3 No, the Netherlands are not very high ranked in basketball. Italy neither, I'm afraid. :) But we have quite a big movement.
 
@egreg: We're more in to soccer, just like you guys, for that matter.
 
@lockstep I've got 542; on the good road. :)
 
I'm 420!
 
@PauloCereda After 500, things get ... slower. ;-)
 
4:36 PM
@lockstep Ah. :)
How to get 749 exactly?
 
@PauloCereda You need about 570 helpful flags (without any dismissed one).
I'm not even halfways there.
 
@lockstep Oh no! I have a dismissed one!
(slow motion) nooooooooooooooooooo!
 
@PauloCereda Up to 500 flag weight, no need to worry. +10 for a helpful flag, -10 for a dismissed one. At 700 flag weight: +0.25/-10.
 
@lockstep Ah! Thanks for raising my hopes. :)
This badge is just mean. :D
 
My "\ensuremath-only-when-really-needed" campaign may have conquered another follower. :)
 
4:44 PM
@egreg Yay! :)
We should have a T-shirt.
Can we have a TeX store?
 
4:55 PM
I was useful! dances I finally found a question I could help with, answered, and am now the highest voted answer. And here I was worried that since it was kind of a workaround (Reduce ugly hyphenation by using microtype to have less hypenation, period) that it would be downvoted.
 
@Canageek Way to go, buddy! :)
 
Tex should be banned. It can be more addictive than drugs, right now I am to lazy to make myself food,becuase of it. And I am hungry!
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@Canageek: I have hardly ever seen anything downvoted. Not to take anything away from your glorious answering, seems like a perfectly acceptable answer :)
 
@wh1t3 I have more on other SX sites. Actually my Cthulhu question was downvoted more then once.
 
5:13 PM
Great Answer badge awarded!
 
@MartinScharrer I see from the starred messages that you are a legendary user. Congratulations! We knew that already anyway. But nice to get a yellow dot additionally. Almost at the same time with the birthday of the site...
 
@percusse Thanks
 
Martin is the Jon Skeet of TeX.sx. :)
 
5:32 PM
@PauloCereda I think to have been the 100th upvoter. I upvote old answers and questions when I find them interesting (but I'm not chasing after them either).
 
@egreg Cool! :) It's great to upvote interesting questions and answers. :)
 
@PauloCereda I've surely given less votes than you.
 
@egreg But I'm addicted to upvotes! :)
 
@PauloCereda And I'm addicted to answers
 
@egreg so I'll have more stuff to upvote. :D
@egreg: I'm curious about the new features of imakeidx. :)
 
6:18 PM
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Q: Error shapepar to use the command \circleshape

Regis da SilvaSee my code: With \diamondshape it works but with \circleshape it does not. What is wrong? \documentclass[a4paper]{article} \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} \usepackage{shapepar} \usepackage{lipsum} \pagestyle{empty} \begin{document} \shapepar{\circleshape} {\lipsum*[1]} \end{document}

I'm pretty sure it's because the divisions of the text cannot be fit inside the shape.
I incrementally added the Lipsum text and the error raised in the point where there are words that cannot be divided.
 
@PauloCereda I believe that the circle can be at most 11 lines.
 
6:34 PM
@egreg Ah! Makes sense.
@egreg Indeed! Exactly eleven lines!
It would be a nice answer. :)
 
 
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7:42 PM
@PauloCereda It wouldn't try `\shapepar[18.5cm]{\circleshape}
a an \lipsum*[1-5]` :) Hehe...
 
@YiannisLazarides wow! :)
 
8:32 PM
@JosephWright: I'm considering to apply a custom skin to my notebook. I'm tempted to choose this one: istickonline.com/skins/netbook7-10.1/uk-netbook7-10.1.aspx
 
9:10 PM
Here it is!
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Q: installing comicsans to TeX Live, Windows

ChangI need help to install the comicsans package and the fonts. My system is TeX Live 2011, and Windows 7. Below is what I did: Copied comic.ttf and comicbd.ttf in C:\texlive\texmf-local\fonts\ttf. (I created the ttf directory.) Copied dvips, tfm, and vf directories from the comicsans.zip to C:\tex...

 
9:21 PM
@egreg Oh my.
 
9:36 PM
@PauloCereda Would you like to answer? I won't. A student of mine once presented her final essay for a "cultural" course I was lecturing. She had to talk about the essay and did well. I made her promise not to use ComicSans any more in her life and only after that I told her the grade.
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@egreg You are my hero! :)
XeLaTeX would make life easier: \setmainfont{Comic Sans MS}
Is that code correct? Looking at the MWE, it seems Comic Sans is being applied to the sf family, not the roman one.
 
@PauloCereda @egreg I apologize in advance for the question I'm about to post then.
 
9:52 PM
@Canageek Don't worry! Go for it. :)
 
@Canageek A stab at the back?
 
10:11 PM
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Q: How do I make my essay shorter?

CanageekSo I have an essay which has a 10 page limit, must be doublespaced, with 1 inch margins and 12 point typeface. I'm currently at 11 pages, and while going a little over the pagecount is fine, I still have to write in a conclusion and add a couple of more footnotes. I know this is blasphemy, but ...

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@egreg No, I'm expecting the stabbing to be in the face.
 
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Q: Squeezing scientific paper to fit within page limits

Vebjorn LjosaI am submitting a paper to a conference that has a limit of 10 pages. I have edited and edited the text, but the paper still fills 11 pages, and I am reluctant to remove anything. What tricks can I use to make the paper fit in 10 pages? I know about \vspace{-1mm}, but are other and better tr...

 
@JosephWright Akk, missed that. Should I just delete mine then?
 
@Canageek If you agree it's a dupe I'll close
We prefer not to delete - the dupes help with searching
 
That somehow reminds me of xport.
 
@JosephWright Yeah, I'd call that a dupe, though I'm finding some problems with the 2nd answer.
 
10:17 PM
@Canageek OK, done
 
@JosephWright Sorry about that, it is hard to search for general ideas like that. First bad question on the same day I hit 'great question'
 
@Canageek No worries, it happens
 
@Canageek I hope you don't mind that I killed the tag.
 
@lockstep Not at all, I figured that would happen anyway.
 
@lockstep Do we have a tag? Oh my.
 
10:24 PM
@JosephWright Is there anyway I can point out that a old answer is outdated? For example that \usepackage{times} should be TeX Gyre Termes? Also, microtype to save space? I tried my 10 page (double spaced) with and without it, and there was no change in length at all.
@PauloCereda I assumed there was when I typed it in and it added in curly braces.
 
@Canageek Ah I see. :)
 
You can still get a "doublespaced" appearance by saying something like

\titlespacing*{\section}{0pt}{.3\baselineskip plus .2\baselineskip}{.2\baselineskip}

for the section titles. For oldstyle numbers I'm afraid that no Times clone usable with pdflatex has them (Times was actually born without them, I've looked at the first copies of *The Times* published with it).
 
What is the accept rate below someones name? I still have 100% after that question was closed.
 
But if you switch to XeLaTeX, with

\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX,Numbers=OldStyle]{TeX Gyre Termes}

you'll get them
 
@egreg I like microtype too much, and I'm trying to keep most of my tricks compatible with ACS submissions. Hopefully they'll have updated their installation by the time I get my PhD in 10 years or so.
@egreg Why don't you make that an answer to the question I was a dupe of? Also I hate Times, I just was going to use it as it was small.
 
10:34 PM
@Canageek I don't think it fits the context of a scientific paper. But there you find many suggestions: if you have lists, then enumitem has the "compact" option. Also titlesec has it, maybe \usepackage[compact,small]{titlesec} does something if you have many sections.
Dirtiest trick: \setstretch{1.5} instead of the default 1.655 of setspace. Times has also a small x-height, so this could still pass as a doublespaced document.
 
11:18 PM
@egreg: you read my mind!
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A: Environment for listing personal information or similar data

egregJust to show some variations, here is a key-value approach: \documentclass[a4paper]{article} \usepackage{keyval,booktabs} \makeatletter \def\ui@key#1{\define@key{ui}{#1}{\@namedef{ui@#1}{##1}}} \ui@key{name}\ui@key{place}\ui@key{phone}\ui@key{mobile} \ui@key{email}\ui@key{website}\ui@key{style}...

 
My first thought was "Duplicate!", but this is actually a nice question:
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Q: Protect text from being interrupted by figures or tables

NorswapI have read How to protect text from being split by a float? by it does not exactly cover what I want. I have a text that is interspersed with figures. I do not wish to copy all the figures to the end of the document, but wish that they all appear there, leaving the text proper uninterrupted by ...

 
@egreg: I was ready to write a question about commands with named parameters (other name we give for key/value entries), and then you write this great answer. :)
@lockstep very nice answer! :)
(I'm out of votes, but I'll upvote it soon.)
 
@PauloCereda Too bad -- I'm at 195 rep right now. ;-)
 
@lockstep Oh no! "Daily vote limit reached; vote again in 37 minutes." But in 37 minutes it will be too late!
 
@PauloCereda That's why one always should save some votes. :-)
Ah .. thanks to the anonymous upvoter. :-)
 
11:26 PM
@lockstep I admired the simplicity of the answer, and like anything that explains how to get freaking floats to go where I want.
 
@lockstep I can't control myself. :)
 
Also, is anyone familiar with biblatex-chicago?
 
biblatex? We do have an expert in da house. :)
/me points at @lockstep. :)
Sep 12 at 17:35, by Alan Munn
Biblatexism: Assuming Philipp Lehman is its Pope, @lockstep is Prefect of the Congregation of the Faith.
 
@Canageek biblatex-chicago is somewhat special. Really.
Ask a question, but ... no guarantees.
 
@lockstep My TA looked over my essay and said since I'm only citing one work by each author I should admit the works title from future short citations to save space. Is there an easy way to do that?
@lockstep If not I'll just go and specify a short title, which I noticed when looking over the documentation last night.
 
11:31 PM
@lockstep Not so anonymous. :)
@PauloCereda When I saw a macro with five arguments the hand went to the keyboard.
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@Canageek Is this some sort of authortitle or verbose style? I don't use these normally, sorry. So ... either ask a question and hope for Audrey or Marco, or resort to specifying a short title.
 
@egreg I had almost the same motivation to ask how to achieve that. Sometimes, I think key/value (named parameters) is the right way of doing it. :)
 
@lockstep I'll write it up as a question with an example, then whomever can answer it.
 
@Canageek As it's close to 1 AM here, I'm not going to tackle any substantial biblatex question in the next hours.
 
@lockstep That is fine, 1) I bet it is a setting I missed, and 2) Questions on TeX.SX don't stay unanswered for long.
 
11:43 PM
@PauloCereda Yes, it's a great achievement: people remember names. I always go to the manual for the obscure optional arguments of \parbox and I never remember what's the first argument of \rule for.
\vrule width ... height ... depth ... is way better.
 
@egreg So true. :) I can't find the link, but I remember a really really bad Java code available on a well-known project. One of the class methods had 80 parameters.
 
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Q: How do I omit the title from the shortened citations in BibLaTeX-Chicago?

CanageekI am writing a history essay using biblatex-chicago. My TA said that since I am only referencing one work by each author I should omit the title of the work from the shortened citations (each citation after the first one) For example: Right now for the two of the citations in my essay I have: "...

There, now at least someone will answer it, though possibly not before the essay is due.
 
11:59 PM
@Canageek You should add a minimal working example, which is likely to include a filecontents environment for a short .bib file.
 
@PauloCereda 80 parameters? How can one remember them? Yes, I've written macros with 9 parameters, but they were just for internal processing, something like \@startsection
 

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