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> Ultimately, the English interrogative pronouns (those beginning with wh in addition to the word how), derive from the Proto-Indo-European root kʷo- or kʷi, the former of which was reflected in Proto-Germanic as χʷa- or khʷa-,[citation needed] due to Grimm's law.

These underwent further sound changes and spelling changes, notably wh-cluster reductions, resulting in the initial sound being either /w/ (in most dialects) or /h/ (how, who) and the initial spelling being either wh or h (how). This was the result of two sound changes – /hw/ > /h/ before /uː/ (how, who) and /hw/ > /w/ otherwise
 
@tchrist Not to me, until now.
 
Page 2.
 
Although if I'd bothered to think about it before, it would have made sense.
 
Apparently PIE had an initial morpheme meaning “huh?” that got applied to huge whole lot of wtf queries. Doubtless onomatopoeic. :)
@Mitch The fox bit off the -ce.
Mais la poulaille [s’]escape.
I never know when to reflex my French verbs that do so in Spanish and Portuguese and Italian.
Mais la poulaille s’échappa.
 
1:10 PM
We’ll give it a s’ if I can find a reference for it.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I would never have expected WSJ to produce an animated movie. I thought black and white was their thing.
 
I found a reference: it should indeed be reflexive in that sense.
 
@Mitch yeah I knew someone would interpret it that way. It's the generic "they", you know, "those people".
 
@tchrist ha ha. I was going to reply 'in the hen house'.
13 mins ago, by Mitch
@tchrist That's what I'm here for.
@tchrist Huhwhat?
 
@Mitch It’s just how PIE spelled ¿.
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A: Why is it "wherever" instead of "whereever"?

tchristThe thing you need to remember about the word wherever is that it used to be two words, and began life that way. For quite a while it was written that way, too, but then it started getting hyphenated. When finally the hyphen itself was lost, it made no sense to write with two e’s the sound of ju...

Le renard voulait voler la poulaille.
We’ll pretend those all rhyme.
Well, the first two.
Although they don’t, but still.
Not all speakers preserve a distinction there.
 
1:19 PM
Goodness my French is rusty. Is that steal or fly?
 
Heh. That’s the pun.
It’s steal, really.
But of course, it has the history of fly.
 
Ah. Not so rusty after all, then :)
 
You can use it both ways, including transitively if you’ve your mews about you:
> voler
(transitive) to steal
(intransitive) to fly
(transitive) to fly (an aircraft)
(falconry, transitive) to pursue flying
Somehow I don’t think a foxen falconer would fly a fowl instead of a tiercel or some such.
 
Gah. Now my bluetooth keyboard has run out of battery, so not only do I have to use the crappy iOS Safari implementation of Chat, I have to use the on-screen keyboard too.
I shall give up the unequal struggle for the moment. :(
 
My goodness, what device are you hunting and pecking on?
I don't blame you.
iPad?
Bye.
Tough crowd. goto \&job;
 
1:26 PM
iPad. Kensington keyboard.
 
The fox hunts, the hen pecks.
 
1:52 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I think that might even be less interesting than Tron.
 
the Tetris history of Russia is pretty good
 
2:33 PM
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Q: Ambiguity of "bag down for a better ride"

Will HuntingToday I saw a sign on the train that said Bag down for a better ride. There was an accompanying picture of someone carrying a large bag on his back, possibly causing inconvenience to others. Initially, I thought it meant put less things in your bag, with bag used as a verb in the sign. Lat...

It may be a silly question, but I wanna ask it nonetheless.
 
and so you have
 
With such "high standards" for questions, ELU would be closed, lol.
No upvote for such an interesting question? lol
 
2:58 PM
The question does not have many views. Maybe it is a busy day for many.
 
yeah. it's been a busy day for me
 
I thought it would get 10 votes by now, lol.
 
Nobody wants to upvote your stuff because you flushed all their previous upvotes.
 
Amazon is trying to refund me even when my items have not reached them, very nice of them. I then said I will buy all my books from them in future.
 
Hehe, when I close windows in my IDE the heap size goes up, not down.
 
3:11 PM
that's... a different kind of memory management
 
The "more is more" school of garbage collection.
 
Hello! I’m fairly new here and I’m interested to know if my comments on this question seem appropriate to long-standing members of this community. english.stackexchange.com/questions/199229/…
 
@TylerJamesYoung I would hesitate to constrain ELU's scope to "etymological nuances and linguistic oddities." Certainly we're broader than that.
 
I didn’t intend that as a comprehensive list
 
Nor did I. Nevertheless, your statement seems kind of back-handed, a belittling of what we do here.
 
3:24 PM
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
How can this be a garden path sentence?
 
It requires reinterpretation of “outside”
 
I don't know. it's a pun. I wouldn't call it a garden path sentence
 
Inside of is physically inside?
outside of is except for
 
nothing like "the horse raced past the barn fell"
 
I agree about the reintepretation.
 
3:25 PM
@username901345 yes
@Robusto yes
 
i see thank you
 
@Robusto In that comment, my main objective was to clearly differentiate the two sites. I think both do more than my description of either, and there’s even a fair amount of overlap that is occasionally the subject of debate.
 
Yo yo.
 
oi oi!
 
Ei ei!
 
3:29 PM
@Robusto Anyway, I should just thank you for the feedback rather than adding justifications that weren’t clear within the comment in question.
 
(That's a Dutch exclamation, but I don't really know what it means. Probably something like forsooth.)
 
@Cerberus Hi, Cerberus!
 
Woof!
Welcome!
 
@Cerberus, I’ve seen you on both ELL and ELU. Would you care to weigh in on my question above?
 
Certainly.
@TylerJamesYoung I am inclined to agree with you.
 
3:32 PM
BBL
 
That is a very polite way of saying "your question is about learning English, so let's move it to ELL".
Because it is basically about the use of ahead in ordinary language.
@MattЭллен Beard/Butt/Legs?
 
Yeah, my main focus was avoiding the belittling of a new visitor who might be sensitive about his or her command of English.
It seems I may have overcorrected and belittled the rest of the community.
 
Haha I don't think so.
The rest of the community has no right to be easily offended.
 
3:53 PM
and lo it was migrated
and it was good
though I would prefer to know OP had read my comment (which might help to explain the migration) and wish the edit history could be preserved
 
Congratulations!
I'm sure the OP got your comment in his SE inbox.
 
4:15 PM
@Cerberus I reserve my right to be offended. Even easily. I literally have thin skin. And walk on eggshells.
@MattЭллен I love Tetris. It's how I know the capitals of all those former Soviet Central Asian countries. I don't know which country they are the capital of, just that those are the capitals.
 
@Mitch You cannot reserve that which you do not have.
And your metaphorical mixture is...chunky.
 
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Q: Is there a name for this type of sentence structure: "She looks as though she's been poured into her clothes, and forgot to say 'when'"?

user5531Comedians seem to use phrases that employ this type of sentence structure - is there a name for it? Examples of Groucho Marx's one liners seem to fit this pattern — and if memory serves, Emo Philips. One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas, how he got in my pajamas, I don't know. ...

 
4:42 PM
@Cerberus You're right. I can never get a reservation at that new Eskimo-Guatemalan fusion cuisine restaurant.
@Cerberus I like my metaphors like I like my peanut butter... chunky.
 
@Cerberus things that should always be on show
 
@Mitch Sounds delicious.
@Mitch And curdly?
@MattЭллен Perhaps in your case.
 
:D thanks!
 
user116848
hi
 
user116848
@MattЭллен Can you speak Russian? Because it is in your name.
 
4:57 PM
no, I cannot
 
user116848
So, it is not in Russian?
 
5:29 PM
@MattЭллен Still no upvote for my question, lol.
 
hey
@WillHunting There is 1 upvote
 
@hey Erm...
Thanks for the pic @AndrewLeach lol
 
Worth a thousand words!
 
OMG, google has everything.
They probably know what colour my underwear is, lol.
 
Guess: #0000FE.
 
5:37 PM
Hi @TylerJamesYoung nice beard.
 
Oh, I see. All I get is "Thanks for the pic".
Harrumph
:)
 
Oh, I have seen your beard for too long, lol
It seems that many Americans have pets, at least on SE.
There is a new Explainer badge, hmm.
 
If you need a First Aid Certificate, do you attend a First Aid Course? Or is it called something other than First Aid Course?
 
not an explaner badge? one that's been made 3D?
 
@William'MindWorX'Mariager Yes, I think so.
@MattЭллен Or maybe explanar?
 
5:52 PM
@William'MindWorX'Mariager yes, you would attend that
 
Alright
Thanks <3
 
@WillHunting oh, yeah, that too :D
 
6:07 PM
@Robusto “paraprosdokian” is an excellent term for that sentence. Far more apt than “garden path”, which hardly fits at all.
 
@TylerJamesYoung Hi. Thanks for edited my question
:)
 
@IceGirl My pleasure!
 
@TylerJamesYoung Nice to see you
 
@IceGirl Likewise. I’m not usually in chat, but I’m giving it a try today.
 
@TylerJamesYoung icic
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Hi
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh, you have a daughter and a son
nice
:)
 
How old are they?
 
@WillHunting Hi, Will! Nice BLUE
 
hey
 
6:22 PM
posted on October 01, 2014 by sgdi

There once was a man in a draft On a noisy, unpleasant aircraft Wind came, I suppose From the hole in the nose There was naught he could do so he laughed

 
@IceGirl 6 and 4
@hey Not me. I was born on my cousin's birthday.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 OK
I love children a lot
 
me too, they're great
 
6:38 PM
@IceGirl I thought you are a child too, lol.
 
@WillHunting NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
@IceGirl I thought you are ten, lol.
 
@WillHunting NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@WillHunting I think you are TEN not ME
 
@IceGirl I wish I were ten. I had not gone mad then.
 
@WillHunting Why are you mad?
 
6:47 PM
I heard rumours that Iranian women are very beautiful.
 
@WillHunting from who?
 
@IceGirl I don't know, lol.
 
@WillHunting you are mad so it's normal to say that
it's not strange
Why change your name?
@WillHunting Right?
 
:17946174 Yes, single and available. But don't worry, I don't go for Iranian women, lol.
:17946228 What about you? Are you married?
 
@WillHunting Maybe and maybe not
I don't know
:D
@WillHunting Where are you from? Canada?
 
6:56 PM
@IceGirl No, I come from a terrible country in Asia.
 
Which country? Why terrible?
 
No comments. I better not say too much here, lol.
 
OK
 
shh. They're always listening.
 
@WillHunting Do you have any girl friend?
 
6:59 PM
@IceGirl No, I am trying to solve my mental problems first. This has kept me from trying hard to find someone.
 
:)
I believe that
hehehe
 
It's true. Everyone knows that almost everything I say in this chat is true.
 
I don't know where my IP is?!!!!!!
:((
I hope so
 
@IceGirl Can the men in your country marry 4 wives?
 
7:02 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 What is that?
@WillHunting !!!!!!!!!!!
 
@IceGirl It is a site to tell you your IP, lol.
 
A-ha
OK
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Thanks
 
@IceGirl hi my friend
 
@IceBoy Oh, hi IP
@IceBoy how are you?
 
@IceGirl You mean IB?
 
7:04 PM
@IceGirl oh your IP is IB.
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YES
 
:D))
 
:)
 
:D
 
7:04 PM
When are iceboy and icegirl getting married?
 
@IceGirl fine thanks, how are you?
 
@IceBoy fine too. thanks
 
So sad Kit doesn't come to this chat anymore.
 
@WillHunting !!!!!!!!!!
Why?
@IceBoy What's up?
 
@IceGirl I like to talk to her.
@IceGirl Have you watched my movie? =)
 
7:07 PM
no
 
Then watch Good Will Hunting!
 
@IceGirl not too much, I feel asleep and left the computer on :(
 
@IceBoy :(
OK
np
 
:D)
 
I can't believe my question only has 1 vote, lol.
OK, it's not great. =)
 
7:09 PM
@IceGirl My IP said NP
 
@WillHunting Your questions in this chat room are really stupid
 
@IceGirl Which one?
 
All of them
 
@IceGirl That is a joke, right?
 
:)
@IceBoy See you later IP
:)
 
7:12 PM
later IP
 
@IceBoy See you later IP
 
I can't stand too many smilies, lol.
 
:)
 
@IceBoy joke??
no not joke
OK
 
@IceGirl then it is not very nice of you, is it?
 
7:14 PM
!!!!!!!!!
nods
 
Ok, np
 
@WillHunting Are you sad?
OK
 
@IceGirl Sad about what?
 
Sorry
:(
 
No, I am only sad over my mental problems.
 
7:16 PM
@WillHunting OK
:)
@IceBoy bye IP
 
@IceGirl Bye
 
 
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8:19 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I HEARD THAT!
 
8:38 PM
I KNEW it! You're one of them!
 
@Mitch Shh...
 
8:49 PM
The Russian chat is dead.
 
No complaining about other chats in chat.
 
and vice versa :)
in Russian Language and Usage, 46 secs ago, by Ice Boy
The English chat is dead.
 
9:06 PM
Dead?
Then why is it twitching and oozing?
 
spasms
 
10:11 PM
Hey @GnomeSlice, I think of you every day, lol.
 
That's not weird at all.
 
10:57 PM
No.
Absolutely not weird.
 
LOL
This chat is pretty dead now.
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Q: Ambiguity of "bag down for a better ride"

Will HuntingToday I saw a sign on the train that said Bag down for a better ride. There was an accompanying picture of someone carrying a large bag on his back, possibly causing inconvenience to others: Initially, I thought it meant put less things in your bag, with bag used as a verb in the sign. L...

What do you think of my question?
 
11:29 PM
Hello @seth lol.
 
@IceGirl Please keep your language nice. If you are trying to make a joke or say something in jest I suggest you include a smiley to make it too obvious. I'm fairly confident that Mr. Hunting wasn't terribly offended, but your message did get flagged so here is a friendly warning :)
@WillHunting sup? Been acting in anything lately? ;p
 
@Seth Wow, who flagged her? lol
 
@WillHunting That information isn't easily available, but if I did know I couldn't tell you so.. ;)
 
I will only flag something like !@#$%^&*
 
Oh, Good Will Hunting, i.e. Robin Williams. I knew that name struck a chord.
 
11:35 PM
It is my favourite movie.
 
@WillHunting Ah, well, others are more picky. That is what etiquette is, not saying or doing something you know will likely offend others :)
 
But recently I watched If I Stay, which is really good.
 
@WillHunting Nice.
 
I also like The Covenant, lol.
 
@WillHunting She doesn't? :/
 
11:36 PM
@Seth Nope, some people upset her here...
 
yeah I know about that.
all too sadly.
 
@Seth Do you also know about my mental illness?
 
mm.. I don't think so?
 
11:58 PM
@Seth Good night. I will see you in my dreams!
 
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