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@ArdaXi I... don't think so? I thought we established that Spanish (like every other non-Mandarin language I speak) doesn't have voiceless velar fricatives.

Arda Xi

Please hold while Wikipedia loads.

Grace Note

Also it's because I know too many people named Joaquín

FallenAngelEyes

Spanish is:

Voiceless uvular fricative

The voiceless uvular fricative is a type of consonantal sound, used in some spoken languages. The symbol in the International Phonetic Alphabet that represents this sound is . The sound is represented by x̣ (x with underdot) in Americanist phonetic notation. It is not to be confused with the voiceless velar fricative (IPA , X-SAMPA x). Features Features of the voiceless uvular fricative: Occurrence {| class="wikitable" ! colspan="2" | Language !! Word !! IPA!! Meaning !! Notes |- | colspan="2" align="center"| Abkhaz ||align="center"| ||align="center"| ||align="center"|'three...

Arda Xi

Yes it does.

Ojo.

Grace Note

Ojo is a lot softer than Kuchen

Arda Xi

4:10 PM

@GraceNote It's the same sound though.

Grace Note

It also looks totally goofy if you're not paying attention.

LessPop_MoreFizz

J is to spanish as H is to most languges.

Arda Xi

@FallenAngelEyes That's the j in jugar.

LessPop_MoreFizz

No, it's not the same sound.

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz No it is not.

user30

4:10 PM

Got to the augmentation tutorial

Grace Note

@ArdaXi Ojo and jugar use the same sound, last I learnt it.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@GraceNote Yup, as far as I know as well.

Arda Xi

That's the bastardised pronunciation people use if they can't pronounce a voiceless fricative.

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi Ojo is way way softer

Arda Xi

This is what Wikipedia says.

[ˈoxo]

user30

4:11 PM

so er, what should I spend my first point on?

LessPop_MoreFizz

(admittedly, all of my spanish native speaker experience is with latin american spanish. So it might be one of those wierd continental things like the affected lisp?)

Arda Xi

@ThomasMcDonald I say keep at least 1 Praxis point spare at all times.

FallenAngelEyes

@LessPop_MoreFizz Same

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz What you're describing is the same as Chanoeka.

Grace Note

I learned Peninsular and my closer Spanish-speaking friends come from Spain.

user30

4:12 PM

@Arda That's disappointing.

Arda Xi

The Ch is supposed to be a voiceless velar fricative as well, but most English people use the h sound.

Lazers

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Q: Help me identify old NES sports games

There were 3 games that I remember, each made by the same dev team I think(tecno or something like that) the 3 games were: soccer, hockey and basketball in the basketball game you could pick up items to fight with, also you could pick up the basket and throw if it fell off (3-3 baskets each sid...

Arda Xi

@FallenAngelEyes Maybe you're confused with the voiced velar fricative though.

Compare, in Dutch, 'acht' (voiceless) with 'gaan' (voiced).

Torchlight 2 is going to be $20? Nice.

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi I dunno, I'm going off of my 6 years of Spanish education. I also just woke up a bit ago, so I don't have the oomph for an extended linguistics debate.

@ArdaXi Yus. However, no release date still :(

They say they're still aiming for 2011 though

Arda Xi

Your sleeping schedule is really weird.

FallenAngelEyes

4:18 PM

@ArdaXi I often end up accidentally on Pacific

Arda Xi

You... huh?

FallenAngelEyes

Pacific time

Arda Xi

I realise you mean timezones, but still.

FallenAngelEyes

Maintaining a normal circadian rhythm is incredibly difficult for me

Especially given the fact that I can easily sleep 12-14 hours if I'm not woken up by an outside source

Arda Xi

I wish I could.

I wake up around 8, always.

Even if I go to sleep at 4.

FallenAngelEyes

4:21 PM

Plus the fact that I often sleep through those outside sources

Arda Xi

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A: How can I legally try Wii games before buying them?

Buy the game, play it for a few hours, and then return to the store you bought it from and inform the seller that some key, or the game itself didn't work properly. Try to pick out the customer sales person who is least likely to know how anything about games. It's no where near ethical but I se...

Look at the answer. Then at the username. Then at the answer again.

FallenAngelEyes

Lack of anything I currently need to be awake for exacerbates the problem

Mana

@ArdaXi It has a "decent" success rate, though. So, Decency.

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi I'm pretty sure that's fraud o_O

LessPop_MoreFizz

Grace Note

4:27 PM

No one likes the answer, but we're leaving it at 0 votes?

Mana

Man, why does my mouse run out of batteries every time I hit a stride of programming motivation...?

Brant

@ArdaXi Look at me. Then back at the answer. The answer is now about parsing HTML with regular expressions. Now look at the question. I'm on Meta Stack Overflow.

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Mana

Downvoted for misleading username/post combo.

JUSTICE! pumps fist

user30

So now I have 2 points, what am I best geting?

Mana

@ThomasMcDonald Which game, Fallout or Deus Ex?

Arda Xi

4:29 PM

@ThomasMcDonald Totally depends on the way you want to play.

@Mana Deus Ex.

user30

@man DE

Mana

@ThomasMcDonald IMO go straight for getting hacking to level 5.

More hacking = more loot + exploration = more experience to buy more stuff

Brant

Put two points in Improved Sinister Strike, then use nothing but Shiv.

FallenAngelEyes

What "social gameplay" aspects does Deus Ex:HR have?

user30

Too many options

Arda Xi

4:31 PM

@Mana That's going to be my next playthrough.

All stealth.

Mana

Don't bother with the Icarus Landing Gear since you can survive any fall by dropping a cardboard box and then jumping on top of it

Brant

I probably won't play DXHR until I get a new computer... I don't think my current one would do it justice. But I'm totally taking the "kill everyone" route this time. I've always done stealth playthroughs.

Arda Xi

@Brant I'm the opposite.

Brant

Although knowing that there's an achievement for it is kind of discouraging. I want it to be its own reward.

user30

I don't know, you only seem to be able to get so far with stealth

user30

4:33 PM

Well, so far

Mana

@Brant tbh the kill everyone route is what I tried at first, but it's actually pretty boring. It's cool if you kill everyone while remaining undetected.

Arda Xi

Hack into terminal, set robots to enemies, ???, profit.

user30

blowing everything up has it's own type of appeal

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant That was a viable build in early Wrath. :(

Brant

Really?

I thought my friends were just joking when they said "shiv, nothing but shiv" when I asked about sub rotations

Lazers

4:34 PM

0

Q: How do you beat the dragon in Heroes of the Lance?

Heroes of the Lance was a game based on DragonLance: Dragons of Autumn Twilight, utilizing the main characters from the book and letting you play their journey into Xak Tsaroth and confronting the black dragon. In the book Goldmoon confronts the dragon with the Blue Crystal Staff. Assuming you ...

commodore-64

Brant

Well, clearly they were joking, but I didn't know it was ever a "thing"

Powerlord

@Lazers The same way Goldmoon does in the book.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant for Combat. During late Naxx.

Mana

@Powerlord I was about to say.

Brant

Also, quick question: What the hell is Envenom good for?

Powerlord

4:36 PM

@Mana Well, as I recall, the staff has an ability you can use exactly once in the game that makes it explode

GUESS WHERE YOU HAVE TO USE THAT!

Brant

Based on the tooltip it seems inferior to Eviscerate in every way.

Powerlord

(oh, and if you use it before that, you're screwed)

Mana

hahahahahaha

stupid games

Powerlord

As I recall, using it also kills Goldmoon.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant It is good for doing damage as an Assassination rogue.

Also, it ignores armor.

Brant

4:37 PM

Ohhhhh. It ignores armor.

Mana

asdf

Now I really want to play Deus Ex: HR

shoot.

Tim Stone

Me too...although I think I'm going to eat lunch first.

badp

hah

so we were playing CTF on whatever map

Mana

badp!

badp

and we're losing 2-0 after 10 minutes

we hold for 20

sudden death

my sentry gets a few people and we reach 5v1

but the last man left for them is the engie in his nest

Arda Xi

4:40 PM

Hrmph, 100 credits short of a Praxis.

badp

at 60 seconds left I go "oh fuck that" and go cap that crap myself to win

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi I keep thinking you mean the store

badp

at 20 seconds left I get targeted by his sentry (I didn't know about him)

at 19 seconds I touch the intelligence

at 18 I die

My team starts laughing at me

except... "overtime!" The int's off place so it's not over.

An engie and a soldier follow suit and kill the engie.

Victory!

Mana

SOUNDS LIKE A BLOG POST TO ME, RIGHT @FALLEN

Powerlord

@badp: So, of course you pointed out that if it weren't for your heroic sacrifice it would have been a stalemate?

badp

4:42 PM

@Powerlord Yeah. Idiocy does pay off at times.

Powerlord

That's assuming other people here know it only went into overtime because you touched the Intelligence.

Which they do now if they didn't.

badp

Blue was watching the engie and I announced I was going to cap on team chat shortly before the death and I got ridiculed as a result

so yeah, people knew

FallenAngelEyes

@Mana Somehow I think mistaking a game mechanic for a hardware store wouldn't be that thrilling, no matter how hard you tried to spice it up

Arda Xi

Well, y'know, if you did own a Praxis, surely you'd be able to come up with some augmentations.

FallenAngelEyes

Haha true

I think many of us can relate to this:

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Powerlord

4:46 PM

Now I pictured that with "TVTropes" in place of "Internet"

FallenAngelEyes

@Powerlord Then it'd probably be kicking you in the balls and spitting in your face after punching you

Brant

Did somebody say TVTropes?

Powerlord

@FallenAngelEyes Are you saying you don't like TVTropes?

FallenAngelEyes

@Powerlord Oh I do, I've even started articles there. It's just life sucking. :P

bwarner

TVTropes is like Voldemort, it cannot be linked without invoking its incredibly evil powers...

Even saying its name is probably dangerous

Powerlord

4:50 PM

When does Shakugan no Shana 3 Final start airing again?

I need moar!

Mana

September/October, I presume?

bwarner

It's kind of like this: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpeakOfTheDevil

badp

Go figure

Mana

That's when all the new anime seasons/series premiere

badp

in the Bugs section of the wiki article for the Machina (wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Machina)

> "Some servers reject the Machina and will only allow the player to use secondary and melee weapons."

Yeah, that must be totally a bug ::)

Mana

4:52 PM

@bwarner Haha, five bucks says there's going to be a Candlejack joke in th

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Lazers

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Q: How can I get the potion in "Thirsty", level 46 of Spelling Jungle?

Like in this question, I'm trying to get a difficult-to-reach potion here (the blue one towards the right side of the level). However, I'm not sure it's actually possible to get this one. It looks like I might be able to throw a bridge from above it (beside the T) but I need the bridge to get...

strategy spelling-jungle

Powerlord

@Lazers Didn't I see another question with text similar to this in the feed earlier?

FallenAngelEyes

@Powerlord Yeah, he's stuck on a different level now

bwarner

Haha, TvTropes even has ITG: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?type=ykts

Brant

(Chat room goes silent as everyone browses TVTropes in another tab)

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FallenAngelEyes

5:05 PM

@Brant ...dammit, stop spying on me.

Powerlord

@Brant closes tab I'm doing no such thing!

FallenAngelEyes

5:30 PM

I don't think this question is very constructive. It's pretty much inviting speculation and opinion.

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Q: ArmA II: Why is coop more popular than team-based multiplayer?

I've noticed that the vast majority of servers are coop rather than team-based multiplayer. This seems to be skewed in comparison to most other first-person shooter online games, which would have the majority of the servers running a team-based multiplayer configuration (Assault, Capture the Fla...

online-multiplayer arma-2

Powerlord

@FallenAngelEyes I agree. Plus, it doesn't have witches in it.

Ha, I just saw a great quote about Mozilla's Bugzilla bug states.

> UNCO is short for UNCONFIRMED, the state a bug is in between being filed and being rejected because its asking for something a general user would want.

Yi Jiang

5:46 PM

This is rather odd. Global login does't seem to work on the Android browser, yet I can still log into chat with the button

And loading the full chat interface in portrait mode crashes the browser, but not in landscape mode

Even copy and paste works, sort of

user30

bah, they did it again

user30

I tried to hack into the computer inside the police station

user30

and attacked me for no reason

Powerlord

@ThomasMcDonald Yeah... "no reason"

sjohnston

@ThomasMcDonald My experience was that they don't mind you hacking...up until the trace activates, and then they immediately shoot you dead.

user30

5:57 PM

@sjohnston ah, that would make sense

sjohnston

Not really

user30

well, it would explain it

sjohnston

right

Mana

If you get up to level five hacking + full hack stealth you can probably break into most of those computers without getting traced

sjohnston

Probably

Apparently the police just assume you're surfing TV Tropes right up until the alarm goes off

user30

5:59 PM

I quite fancy throwing the fire extinguisher at one of them again though

sjohnston

Also likely to have a positive outcome

user30

Yeah, I did it with a cardboard box at the SWAT team and they decimated me

sjohnston

@ThomasMcDonald Straight-up firefights in the open don't seem to be a viable option. I guess maybe if you had a bunch of armor upgrades it would be a little more feasible, but you're pretty fragile for a six-million-dollar man.

Arda Xi

@sjohnston That's not true.

As soon as you start hacking, if you're within LoS of the people you're hacking, they're gonna turn hostile if you don't knock it off.

If the trace catches you, that turns them all hostile immediately.

I'm not sure about AUDs.

sjohnston

@ArdaXi Well, I tried multiple times, and each time I went hostile right after the trace started. Maybe that was just timing and chance, but it seemed very reproducible.

Arda Xi

6:08 PM

I tried hacking within eyesight at TYM.

The moment I started hacking, a guy came up to me with "That's none of your business sir"

user30

Well, I just hacked Haas's door, then his computer

user30

got decimated on the computer

Lazers

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Q: Is there any benefit for having animals spawn on the islands?

I think I closed the window that explained it too quickly, but I read that after you are able to expand the vegetation through some percentage of the land, animals come to the island and stay to live there. Is there any benefit for this? Or is it simply aesthetic?

completion from-dust vegetation animals

0

Q: Is there a reason to ignore the decree to pound the pillars?

Is there anything I miss if I don't "pound the pillars" in the basement of the castle? Am I making any of the stars inaccessible by doing so?

super-mario-64

Arda Xi

I just found a file with the passwords of everyone in the PD.

sjohnston

6:27 PM

@ArdaXi Oh snap. How did I miss that?

user30

Can I embiggen my inventory?

user30

because I canna store everything

Arda Xi

@sjohnston It's quite hidden, actually.

Gah, I need that other Praxis. I want to try this Typhoon thingy.

user30

whoops

Arda Xi

@ThomasMcDonald Yes. It's an arm upgrade.

user30

6:41 PM

@ArdaXi Aye, I know

user30

talking about something else

user30

trying to get to the dumpster for the um, s3 mission

user30

can seem to jump over fences

user30

or there's an electric floor

Arda Xi

@ThomasMcDonald S3 is just "Side-mission 3"

user30

6:42 PM

@ArdaXi Yes, yes it is

user30

I couldn't remember the name off the top of my head

Arda Xi

Means we have no idea what 'S3' refers to.

But I think I know what you mean. You can get there through the sewers.

user30

Motherly Ties, Locate the storage unit

user30

humm

Arda Xi

There's an entrance to the sewers near the precinct.

user30

6:43 PM

too many missions going off at once

Arda Xi

My first solution was to just take a dumpster and put it at the fence, then pile another box on top of it.

user30

even with hidden objectives it's still confusing me

user30

yeah, I can't move them

Arda Xi

Where did you buy the game, by the way?

user30

Steam

Arda Xi

6:44 PM

Hm, okay.

Ooh, you got The Desk Job, nice.

Gah, I only need 16 more credits.

SELL ALL THE THINGS

user30

I've gone for the piling up the boxes approach

user30

two crates on top of each other

Arda Xi

You're going to need to take the sewers eventually, if only to get back.

user30

Aye

Powerlord

Aye aye, captain.

user30

6:54 PM

by take the sewers, you mean kill all the people?

Arda Xi

Sure.

Powerlord

No, he means kill all the witches.

Mana

767

A: Printing 1 to 1000 without loop or conditionals

This one actually compiles to assembly that doesn't have any conditionals: #include <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> void main(int j) { printf("%d\n", j); (&main + (&exit - &main)*(j/1000))(j+1); } Edit: Added '&' so it will consider the address hence evading the...

I want to report that answer for abuse. That is awful.

Powerlord

@Mana For that matter, how is that question not closed as not constructive or off topic?

Macha

"asked Dec 31 '10" is probably why, though I'm surprised they grandfathered stuff that recent.

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