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7:03 PM
I doubt it's grandfathered. More likely that it was posted while constructiveness guidelines were still being formed and Code Golf SE didn't exist yet.
 
@AnnaLear That question is only 8 months old.
 
user30
whoops
 
user30
attempted to run and jump onto steps
 
user30
and promptly missed
 
Bleah, I hate long days.
Hmm, I wonder when I get my third SO yearling badge. Must be soon.
 
user30
7:09 PM
ffffffufuuuu
 
user30
trying to sneak through drb with varying amounts of success
 
user30
and now I appear to be effectively stuck unless I kill everyone
 
You're never stuck.
 
user30
No I know, I can kill everyone
 
Stack some cardboard boxes up
 
7:14 PM
@ThomasMcDonald them! the !
 
user30
There are no boxes
 
@Powerlord Your sudden usage of that witches tag made me have to check if that tag had actually been made.
 
@Mana I'm trying something new instead of the other tag I used to use all the time.
That which must not be named!
 
You mean...you no longer use that tag? Why?
 
7:16 PM
Er... because I got bored with it?
 
user30
gonna have to do it in stages I guess
 
Because it inspires a frothing reaction of mass hatred from everybody in this chatro--oh
 
user30
take one person out at a time
 
user30
 
@ThomasMcDonald I have thought this exact same thing about 5 times. And in each case, there was a way to get through without fighting. (Although I didn't always find it until later.)
 
user30
7:17 PM
No, I genuinely am stuck on a roof with about 8 guys below me and no way out without going down
 
user30
and the only way down is to
 
@sjohnston What you need is your handy dandy Mann Co. Disguise Kit.
 
It's been a long time since I've used quicksave as much as I'm using it in DXHR
 
@ThomasMcDonald Going down is a good thing
 
@Mana Witches would be totally better than bacon.
Or murder.
 
7:17 PM
@ThomasMcDonald Ah, I think I know exactly where you are.
 
@sjohnston I am an obsessive quicksaver
 
Just don't attack the ... they tend to respond... violently.
 
@FallenAngelEyes I have a tiered system of saves. Which is awesome with this game, since it has the Quicksave, Autosave, Previous quicksave slots
 
@sjohnston Oh nice
 
@Powerlord Yeah, it predates the "not constructive" close reason on SO and Code Golf's public beta.
 
7:18 PM
Oho! I made a game reference about ! I could hardly ever do that with bacon!
 
I tend to use quicksave too much sometimes though
 
Even so, I had upwards of 20 "hard" saves by the time I finished Detroit.
 
And end up relying on it rather than using hard saves
 
user30
there are a lot of dead guys below me now
 
which screwed me over in Dragon Age: Origins Awakening with the Silverite Mine bug >_<
 
7:20 PM
@FallenAngelEyes No, what screwed you over in DA:OA was trusting an EA game to work properly. :P
 
@FallenAngelEyes I hit quicksave compulsively, then live in fear that I will save, only to discover that I'm in some terrible situation.
 
@sjohnston Haha yeah. I also like to use it to explore other dialog options in RPGs :)
 
@sjohnston Which is why I end up having 5 save game files for a single play through.
 
Yeah, ideally, I would like every game to just keep something like the last 20 quicksaves in rotating slots
 
Just rotating them out.
 
user30
7:21 PM
I've been about as subtle as throwing a brick through a greenhouse so far
 
@sjohnston Not related to PC games, but I've accidentally quicksaved when I was about to die when emulating console games. :/
 
@Powerlord Yeah, you think they would've fixed a gamebreaking bug like that. Nope, too busy coding repetitive architecture for DA2
 
(when I meant to quick load)
 
@sjohnston DX keeps two.
 
@Powerlord Yes, this is my nightmare.
@ArdaXi And I think that's a very good start.
@ThomasMcDonald I think I ended up tranq darting about 8 people at the spot where you're at.
Which is tricky, because you have to get all of them before they start reviving each other.
 
7:22 PM
Not related to quick-saving, but in the old PC adventure game Companions of Xanth, if you didn't choose a specific companion, you'd lose in the first room.
 
@Powerlord Ha.
And I hope there were absolutely no clues as to which was the correct choice until you were dead.
 
(If you read the book Demons Don't Dream, you'd know which companion that is)
 
user30
@sjohnston Yeah, sounds about right
 
@sjohnston Yup, exactly.
 
user30
My laser-empowered damage boosting pistol is pretty awesome
 
7:24 PM
@ThomasMcDonald I've been trying to avoid killing, even though I already failed that early on.
 
@ThomasMcDonald My rocket empowered damage boosting chest is more awesome.
 
I prefer my kill counting knife which I'll backsta... oh, wrong game?
 
@ArdaXi You have missile pecs?
 
I just got X-ray vision too.
 
I forgot what rank my knife is. I'm surprised it's as high as it is; my current Spy loadouts have favored the Enforcer quite a lot.
 
user30
7:26 PM
Yeah, I was going to do that for this DRB bit, but it's difficult.
 
@GraceNote Pretty much, yeah.
 
@ArdaXi I see.
Well, at least it's not turntable pecs...
 
@Powerlord I've gone back to the L'etrange actually, after using Enforcer for quite a bit.
 
@ArdaXi So when your nipples get cold, someone dies, got it.
 
@FallenAngelEyes How's that for a pick-up line.
 
7:27 PM
@TheQ I used to use L'Etranger a lot, particularly with the Dead Ringer, but I just can't get past the Enforcer's killing ability.
 
L'Etranger was a weird novel, man.
 
@ArdaXi Disturbing?
 
Oh, I did discover something about the Spy guns... the same thing that causes facestabs also causes your gun's bullet to pass right through someone at point blank range.
 
@Powerlord I do favor the C&D + YER combo though, which lends itself to needing that extra stealth.
 
Now, who's going to be the first person to combine the "murder" and "nipples" tags on a single question?
 
7:28 PM
@sjohnston It's Fallen we're talking about.
 
@TheQ Do you have a Familiar Fez for the silent decloak, too?
 
@ArdaXi <3
 
See? It worked!
 
@Powerlord That is a negative, sadly. I'm not one to buy / trade a lot.
 
Wow, so that's how I talk to girls.
 
user30
7:29 PM
 
user30
this is unsociable of them
 
My biggest problem with the YER is that like half the time when I'm using it, someone turns around at just the wrong time before I get my first stab.
 
@Mana You talk to girls?
 
@Arda SOON.
 
Yeah, the downside is really THE downside for that set / combo.
But
 
7:30 PM
@Mana You keep telling yourself that.
 
On Payload maps, specifically, it's so abusable.
 
@TheQ On a side note, if you have 4 refined metal and an extra YER or L'Etranger, you can craft one directly.
 
user30
@Mana Oh hey, same!
 
Ayup, been waiting for extras of either. I'm so against crafting away my Vintage items though, so it's a slow process.
Vintage / Strange.
 
user30
I have quite a few vintage weapons
 
7:31 PM
w00t, just hacked open a garage to find a tranq. rifle (boring) and FIVE CARDBOARD BOXES (BEST ITEMS IN THE GAME)
 
@ThomasMcDonald So apparently WalMart was having a sale on red puffy vests.
 
@Mana Best item in the game? What is this... Metal Gear?!
 
@Powerlord You can sort of do that in this game, you just have to put the cardboard box down and use it as cover whenever someone's about to turn around.
 
@TheQ I will warn you, that 0.5 sec cloak showing time if you touch someone can be a huge problem with the Fez.
 
@Powerlord I was about to ask, actually, if it's really worth the tradeoff. It's already bad enough as is, and the DR spoiled me for sure.
 
7:34 PM
@TheQ Well, I tend to use the Fez and set at the beginning of defense rounds on Payload.
(and push CP (i.e. Dustbowl and Granary))
The problem is staying out of the way until they manage to push your team back.
 
2
Q: Silencer in Deus Ex Human Revolution

Rob_IGSI was wondering if any one knows where to acquire a silencer for my weapons in Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

 
Like I said, on Payload maps it's horribly abusable and I don't see how the .5s would be much of an issue vs. a pushing team.
 
However, I've pulled off some amazing killing sprees with it after that... silent decloak and silent backstabs = win.
However, if someone jumps as you backstab them, their corpse goes flying as it cloaks, which the enemy team will see...
 
But when it's a giant cluster of spam demos and soldiers from 7 miles away onto a CP or the final few inches of the cart push
No disguise is... yeah.
 
The YER is... situational, yes.
 
7:37 PM
Which is why I love my Strange Knife otherwise.
 
Oh, I also like to YER + DR on nucleus. Very few people take the lower spawn exit and inside track.
Which means you can usually get behind the enemy team. :D
 
Ugh, Nucleus.
I like KOTH maps. I do not like Nucleus.
 
Lately, my servers' Engineers have been ruining Nucleus. That and Valve not nobuilding the tops of the areas around the center.
 
It's like 2Fort meets the space of a closet.
 
One of these days, I'm going to use the plugin I requested on AlliedModders to add new nobuild zones on there and two roofs in badwater that Engys keep abusing. Seriously, did Valve not consider that the Wranger would add sentry jumping and add nobuilds to fix it?
The Engineer update was over a year ago, they should have done something to address some of these areas that are missing nobuild zones by now.
 
7:42 PM
It's not like Demos cant do that anyway, but yeah. I agree. Badwater makes me upset, it's still a favorite map of mine though.
 
There are already a lot of cheap surfaces that Engineers can reach by using dispensers, they don't need ones that are clearly not meant to be reachable areas.
I've actually removed koth_nucleus as a map from my normal map vote rotation. However, at least two of my regulars will nominate it every map.
Despite my classrestricting Engineer on them to drive the point home on them before (albeit temporarily)
 
@Powerlord Is there a built-in way to have the nominations use a different maplist than the rotation, or are you doing that through a plugin?
 
@DaveMcClelland Nominations do have a different maplist than the rotation.
 
@Powerlord Oh... I must have not been paying attention when setting up one of my config files
 
A lot of the servers I play on dont have degroot in the rotation, but I know when I see certain players in there that I'll be playing degroot via nominations that day, guaranteed. So it's definitely different.
 
7:48 PM
That's something I've been planning on looking into for a while. At the moment, I think I have both set up to use the same maplist
 
@DaveMcClelland Well, it's done via a plugin. TF2 doesn't have nominations built-in. SourceMod's MapChooser has which map lists are used when in addons/sourcemod/configs/maplists.cfg
"mapchooser" for map votes, "nominations" for nominations as I recall.
 
@Powerlord Yeah, I assumed you were using mapchooser/nominations. I'll have to look into it.
I think if you don't specify it, it probably just looks at the rotation file
 
There's other maps like "Ultimate Map Chooser" I think its called
 
@SimonSheehan I don't use that one... seemed too complicated to set up.
That and I'm the current maintainer of MapChooser Extended, so it'd seem pretty silly if I used a different MapChooser than it.
 
@Powerlord I found it insanely complicated too, but our servers did get it setup and it seems to work very well, especially with different game modes
 
7:55 PM
lol, I was just looking which global awards I have on my servers' stats.
(Oh, and HLStatsX "global" awards are only based on the last 28 days)
 
"Time played as Spy: NaN"
 
@Powerlord Link to it?
 
Also, for reference, this is why cardboard boxes are the best item in Deus Ex
 
I have the awards for Sapper destructions, Enforcer kills, L'Etranger kills, Gunslinger taunt kills, Volcano Fragment kills, Splendid Screen kills, and Persian Persuader kills.
 
See cardboard box > assume Solid Snake is in it
 
7:57 PM
Volcano Fragment was purely from Degroot Keep.
 
@Mana I think being able to look super-cool in my orb of electricity is totally worth the 1 praxis for the Icarus system.
 
My stats on my server.
I still wonder why Valve hasn't nerfed the Splendid Screen. It essentially has both its own effect, and if you attack at the same time as hitting someone, also the Chargin' Targe's effect.
 
@Mana I'll need to play HR at some point.'
I'll probably pick it up during Steams Christmas sale
 
@Wipqozn Amazon had it on sale for $35 the other day, did you see it?
 
@Powerlord There's no reason to use CT if you have SS. Period.
 
8:00 PM
I think it might still be on sale
 
user30
It's so much better than I thought it would be
 
I haven't finished the first one yet, and I don't think I'll have time to actually play it anytime soon.
 
@TheQ Well... the CT has much higher fire and explosive resistances.
 
I haven't played Tf2 in about 3 weeks... Played so much and now i've burned out a bit
 
Yes, but the difference it makes I honestly feel is negligible, especially if you're using the Persian Persuader.
 
8:02 PM
@ThomasMcDonald It's one of those rare games where I thought it would be good and then I was inexplicably right.
Usually the games I get excited about turn out to be complete crap.
Of course, now I just buy games when I start hearing the title a lot in Gaming chat.
3
 
user30
Shopping recommendation question? Go to chat.
 
@sjohnston I bet you're awaiting the holiday season this year then, when we're all going to be flat broke from Q4 Syndrome.
 
@sjohnston So, you buy whatever game the promo giveaway does?
I still think Super Monday Night Combat... well... I'm not so sure I like the idea behind it.
Taking Monday Night Combat and changing it to be more along the lines of a traditional tower defense game...
 
@Powerlord Well, I was planning on getting Deus Ex anyway. But I got Bastion, Chantelese, Recettear, and others just because others were talking about them and they sounded interesting
 
8:10 PM
@sjohnston What about MineCraft and Team Fortress 2?
 
@FallenAngelEyes Convinced me to buy Bastion in chat, pretty much standalone.
 
@Powerlord I don't remember how I came to minecraft. TF2 is on my (long) list of things to try, but I'm just not that into frantic shooters like that.
 
2
Q: Does the Laser Targeting System alert enemies?

Thomas McDonaldIf I have a gun with the laser targeting system equipped, and I shine it in an area where there are unaware enemies, will they become aware of my presence and go into the alerted state?

 
@sjohnston Well, it's free. Try it, and if you don't like it, throw it in a corner and never play it again ever. :P
 
@Powerlord Well, it's your pet game, so of course you recommend it. But I probably have two dozen games that I own, but haven't yet tried, and I don't really have a particular reason to try TF2 over the others.
 
user30
8:16 PM
don't really approve of this sniper on the gangway
 
@ThomasMcDonald That guy is Not Cool.
 
@sjohnston I'm far from the only person who plays TF2 in here.
 
@ThomasMcDonald Those catwalks were a pain to sneak around
 
<-- Case in point, @Powerlord
 
@Powerlord I don't think anyone else in this room even owns TF2, let alone plays it.
 
user30
8:17 PM
fffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
 
@Powerlord Yeah, I'm not saying you're the sole recommender of TF2
 
user30
tried to sneak into a room and shoot the guy with a stun gun
 
user30
shot the chair instead
 
Deadly chairs.
 
What's TF2? Isn't it that game that isn't Minecraft?
 
8:18 PM
The Chair Armor is one of the best augs.
 
So my mission objective is 'read the pocket secretary', but when I do it's not updating.
 
Sure it's the right secretary?
Does anyone else find it strange that the people in DXHR all have "pocket secretaries" instead of cell phones? Kind of seems like a weird throwback to the palm pilot days.
 
@sjohnston Yes.
 
user30
@sjohnston No.
 
@sjohnston Cell-phones have been replaced with augs I think.
 
8:20 PM
Maybe
@ArdaXi Except that people make calls on their secretaries... And it seems like the augmented are still a significant minority
 
Not among those with pocket secretaries.
 
user30
aww yeah, got to the gangway and took the sniper guy out
 
user30
although I did alarm them
 
user30
ah well
 
So, yeah, this mission is broken I guess.
 
8:23 PM
I've read that some people have run into broken quests, although I haven't found any myself.
 
Not cool...
 
user30
aww yeah, j'ai un rifle snipe
 
@sjohnston They block Dropbox? :O
 
@Powerlord Yeah. Don't get me started.
 
8:25 PM
Odd.
Well, either way, im annoyed now
 
user30
well that was an awesome vent
 
user30
got me right past all the security
 
Apparently installing a game many times just kills the activation
That's really not good
 
@SimonSheehan That's also really old.
 
"When doing so, users will encounter an activation system that uses either Server Side Authentication or Per Title 5x5 access k"
@ArdaXi I know, I like the campaign and theres still a few online players
 
8:26 PM
I mean the DRM.
 
user30
this lift is so slow
 
I'm sure you can find a crack online.
 
user30
oh ffs
 
user30
I just emp'ed myself
 
I'm not normally in favour of cracking, but that form of DRM is so unethical as companies should be charged for unlawful business practices as far as I am concerned.
We're sorry, but you're enjoying your game too much.
 
8:29 PM
@Wipqozn I'm going to call them and either demand another key, or make them activate it.
For now...gonna go slice up some boxes for recycling
 
@SimonSheehan Worth a shot, however I doubt it will work.
Considering the people most companies have at their customer support line can only do what their computer screen tells them to.
 
user30
fffffuuu
 
........ what?
What the hell happened in there?
 
@Brant I do not want to eat what s/he ate
@Brant I can't... stop... laughing...
 
@Wipqozn Probably you want to immediately ask for a manager to override that.
 
8:34 PM
@sjohnston The managers at most of those places are exactly the same.
 
user30
hmm, so I've just emp'ed that robot dancing dog thingy, but they have so much more firepower than me
 
Well, you've at least got a better shot
 
True enough.
 
user30
bah
 
Has anyone had any problems logging into Chat through the steam web browser the past week or so?
 
8:36 PM
@Wipqozn Never used it there
 
user30
guess I'm going to have to use this vodka
 
user30
lol, that was an interesting response
 
@FallenAngelEyes I did use it often. However, the past week I can't log-in to chat. It keeps telling me I need to log-in to any SE account first, which I am.
 
user30
gah
 
user30
:|
 
8:39 PM
there we go
I just needed to log into my SO account
 
Oh right, I always forget Steam has its own web browser.
 
@KevinY Hey Kevin, I was wondering what kind of bird your avatar was
or if it's just some random recolored bird
 
user30
going better this time
 
user30
not been blown up by a stray grenade
 
The Lilac-breasted Roller, Coracias caudatus, is a member of the roller family of birds. It is widely distributed in sub-Saharan Africa and the southern Arabian Peninsula, preferring open woodland and savanna; it is largely absent from treeless places. Usually found alone or in pairs, it perches conspicuously at the tops of trees, poles or other high vantage points from where it can spot insects, lizards, scorpions, snails, small birds and rodents moving about at ground level. Nesting takes place in a natural hole in a tree where a clutch of 2–4 eggs is laid, and incubated by both parents...
 
8:44 PM
@KevinY Aw, it's so pretty
 
:3
 
Google is awesome like that.
 
Whoaaa
Didn't know Google did that.
It's a WBG of this image:
 
Cute little birds
 
8:45 PM
Yup.
 
Or.. huh.
 
:1786505 Mhm.
 
Oh, it is.
 
I'm pretty sure.
 
My Google-fu remains undefeated.
 
8:49 PM
@ArdaXi Eh? Missed the message there.
 
That's where I discovered the picture, anyways.
 
@ArdaXi Aaaaah, Comic Sans! throws grenade
 
@FallenAngelEyes Lol.
 
@FallenAngelEyes mcsweeneys.net/articles/im-comic-sans-asshole (warning: language (obviously))
 
8:53 PM
@FallenAngelEyes Also Paint Shop Pro.
 
Received 615452 bytes item schema version C6AB167A direct data; update is queued. <-- OK, so there's an items_game.txt update queued? Makes me wonder if Valve is releasing an update today.
In TF2 that is.
 
@sjohnston Enough of this bullshit. I’m gonna go get hammered with Papyrus. Ahahaha
 

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