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6:02 PM
@MarkM I bet the more common situation is that everyone has admin rights.
 
@ChrisS: I got approval today to buy a new EMC array for about 90k USD
@ChrisS: The old one is going to be hosted by one single server, FreeBSD 9.0 with ZFS dedupe and samba for backups :D
 
@ScottPack Depends on the size of the university. In smaller ones, that's probably the case, in larger ones I think staff are treated more like corporate employees. It really is a crapshoot though.
 
9.0? Be weary of NFS and SMB locking interfering with each other; they may have sorted it out.
 
(and perhaps freenas 9 when it ships)
we dont use NFS, so thats ok
I need a (very) stable iscsi initiator and samba.. thats all
 
My poor home server does SFTP, NFS, SMB, and WebDav... Wish I could consolidate some of that...
 
6:06 PM
LOL. "Anybody read The Wheel of Time? I think a computer with Lan on it would be scary. You'd press ctrl-alt-del and he'd pop out and kick your ass."
 
@ChrisS: Do you know if ZFS is going to support tiering?
 
@ChrisS i don't believe they do -- it's an inherent multi-locking thing in ZFS as I understand it
 
oh stag, talk about half-assed questions: forums.devshed.com/python-programming-11/…
O_O
 
@pauska I've seen people discussing it; but I'm no authoritative source...
 
@ChrisS @pauska my feeling is ZFS will eventually absorb the concept of tiering as it has absorbed everything else :)
the only question is when.
 
actually one more question: Will ZFS absorb EMACS, or will EMACS swallow ZFS.
 
ZFS development has been very serial; they seem to have a set list of features they want to implement and they're just going down the list.
 
@ChrisS that's not a bad thing
 
yeah, thats one of the things I love about ZFS
 
@voretaq7 Nope; each feature seems very complete and polished when they're done; just that it doesn't give away what's coming next.
 
6:12 PM
@TessellatingHeckler Nice
 
@Holocryptic That's only assuming you notice him jumping out.
 
@ChrisS "get bought by orcacle - check, hide zfs development behind iron curtain - check"
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@MarkM I think the phrase, "treated like corporate employees" is the key phrase there. That has a lot more to do with management ideology than size, though.
 
I'd like "whiteout" more than anything right now. It's absence preventing using unionfs (or similar built-in ZFS) over ZFS.
 
@pauska That doesn't really achieve the same goal as tiering.. intent log and read cache are one thing, but it doesn't let you guarantee that oft-accessed data is always in flash
 
6:13 PM
@ScottPack Very true.
 
@ScottPack Yeah, it'd pretty much be a stealth ass kicking.
 
@ShaneMadden ah bummer.
 
@ChrisS I'm sure there's a roadmap :)
 
@TessellatingHeckler They were never very open with what features would be implemented next. They did discuss ideas, and I think community feedback drove priorities a bit. But the community rarely knew more than a feature or two ahead of time.
 
with a left-turn to "becomes part of Oracle RAC. License cost $1BN"
 
6:15 PM
@Holocryptic At lunch I read a scene where one of the characters is walking by him while he's asleep and is made uncomfortable because he wakes up, looks at her, then closes his eyes without anything else changing. Fun stuff.
 
Need to dual-license. btrfs/zfs split is dumb.
 
I showed my wife the picture of the dog. She said, "Cute puppy!"
 
@ScottPack I can't wait for the last book
 
@ShaneMadden Right; you can't add a bunch of 3TB 7200 drives that'll be used for snapshots and other uncommonly used data; then add a bunch of 15k SAS drives which will automatically be used for "current" data. The ZIL and L2Arc are useful, but in the context of a whole pool only.
 
@Holocryptic Earlier this year I started at the beginning, with the notion that the last book would get published before I'm done. It has reminded me exactly how mediocre an author he is, and how much I wish Sanderson took over several books earlier.
 
6:19 PM
@ChrisS Yeah. And I'm sure it'll be patent warfare all over again if they do implement it, a la NetApp vs Sun.
 
@ChrisS that was my goal here.. SAN with many 15k disks and a few 1TB satas
 
@ScottPack I agree with you to an extent. But I can't help but feel like the ending is rushed. There was all this tension and buildup, and now it's going breakneck to the finish. Maybe I'm just sad it's ending...
 
@pauska Yep; our SAN has a bunch of 600GB 15K SAS drives and a bunch of 1TB 7200 SATA drives. SAS for production; nearline SATA for D2D Backups.
 
except that I have all of that for backups
overkill perhaps, but the array and disks are closing in on 4 years
 
@Holocryptic And by "tension and build-up" you mean 5+ books where nothing happens except for drawing out the story as long as possible to create more books :)
@Holocryptic It's kind of like the 5th season of B5. They had all these plot threads they wanted to finish out, but none of them were connected to the main story arc (completed in S4), and not really a seasons worth of them to begin with....
 
6:26 PM
@ScottPack The problem with B5 season 5 is Claudia Christian left so all the Ivonova plots that had to be wrapped up were left open :-/
I swear when people ask a database question and say "I'm using SQL" it makes me want to beat them to death
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@voretaq7 You mean there's more than one SQL? Can you give me a list of the SQLs???
 
@voretaq7 Well, that and the impending cancellation at the end of S4 forcing them to wrap up the main story arc then, as opposed to letting it play out more slowly through S5.
 
@ShaneMadden come here, let me convert you into third normal form. menace
 
@ChrisS: grumble... the old SAN doesnt support JBOD :(
 
@ScottPack "Wait, why is the series finale on the Season 4 DVD?"
 
6:34 PM
@ScottPack Yeah. I guess it's just a shock to the system to see it moving so quick after a long time.
 
@voretaq7, what is wrong with saying they use SQL. Everyone sticks to pure ANSI SQL that is portable to any SQL engine rright? All those vendor extensions don't add anything useful.
 
Totally not related to anything we're talking about but I just had an amazing thought: Make ice cubes out of coffee, so that when they melt in your iced coffee, it doesn't water it down, it just slowly replenishes it.
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@MarkM coffee shops are too stupid for that. they just double-brew the iced coffee so its bitter and narsty.
 
I've been brewing pitchers of my own iced coffee from beans that i get at a local coffee shop. So good.
I really think I might go straight home from work and dump out a tray of ice cubes and do this.
 
@MarkM, my mother already does that. It is a good idea.
 
6:37 PM
Your mom is way ahead of me, I guess. At least I know it's a good idea now!
@WesleyDavid I feel like I stole your rep from that %date% %time% question
:/
 
aw, tag wiki excerpts can't contain tags?
grumble grumble.
 
@MarkM Nah, no worries. Although I'm the dick who downvoted you just to make sure future folks saw a more Windows Friendly way of doing it.
 
@ChrisS: I guess I could create several raid6 pools (with same disk speeds) and stripe them together with zfs.. or something
 
Sometimes I feel bad when I see someone ask a question laced with ignorance or misinformation and see them get hammered in the downvotes.
 
@MarkM You have two options. 1) Keep the answer up and then hope that I get more than 10 upvotes above your answer so I get the gold badge. 2) Spite the OP and delete the answer because he's clueless. =P
 
6:44 PM
@WesleyDavid Haha, I'm going to leave it up. You're pretty close to the badge already I think.
 
@WesleyDavid link?
 
@pauska That'd work. I really wish ZFS has a way to interface with HBAs to bridge the software/hardware RAID engine divide.
 
I can't believe anyone would prefer that to scanning the DC for proper logon events. That just... baffles me.
 
7
A: How do I monitor who's logged in?

WesleyDavidMonitor the event logs on the domain controllers for event 672. It will show all successful logon events for AD users and which computer they logged on from. Filter by computer to get logon events for only those computers that you are interested in.

 
6:45 PM
@ChrisS It'll "work", but I'll have to trust the SAN to never create any oopsies
ZFS needs to do the mirror/zraid part if you want the crc checks
 
@WesleyDavid I lied.
 
@WesleyDavid, do get that gold badge MarkM has to get 10 votes, and you have to get 20. It is tricky to get.
 
Ahh, got it @Zoredache - I misunderstood the terms.
 
@WesleyDavid does your answer show logoff times? That's always the downfall as I see it
 
Answer outscored an accepted answer with score of more than 10 by more than 2x
 
6:47 PM
@MarkM So for the record, the downvote was not "Mark's a noob" but rather "There's a better way (and the OP needs a session with the LART)"
 
supppp!?
 
@voretaq7 Active Directory does not currently store logoff details, no. =/
 
@WesleyDavid Forgive him his policy, it was probably handed down to him by Those Who Know Not What They Do.
 
@WesleyDavid Yep, right after I wrote it I knew there was a better way, but I don't really delete many of my posts so I left it.
 
what's the best way to get a ssh login that just allows ssh port fowarding and no shell?
 
6:48 PM
@pauska Not if ZFS could tell the HBA how to calculate parity/crc/etc... Just saying, it should be entirely possible to create a HBA API where a volume manager can program how the HBA operates in regards to RAID.
 
@WesleyDavid worthless festering pile that it is :)
 
The only time I delete anything is if my answer is potentially dangerous and I didn't realize it at the time of writing, which has only happened once from what I can recall. Or if I totally misunderstand the question and spout off nonsense :)
 
@voretaq7 When a person insists on such bad policy, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance.
 
I think your solution also shows anything else that auths against AD independently (like OWA/Exchange logins) but it differentiates them
 
@WesleyDavid Way to go Wesley. Give him the Right answer. Sure, whatever.
 
6:49 PM
@WesleyDavid usually its a sign to look for a new job
 
@ScottPack!!! <3 <3 <3
 
@portforwardpodcast, so you where not given shell access, and you are trying to find a way to escalate your privileges without talking to your admin?
Or are you asking how to permit forwarding only.
 
@Zoredache I'm trying to only open one port on my router. and not have that box actually do anything
so permit forwarding only
I'm big into ssh tunneling
 
@portforwardpodcast Define the problem you're trying to solve first, then maybe we can help.
 
@voretaq7 I have a virtual environment with ~5 vm's. I would like to make another vm that only runs ssh (on a non-standard port). I will disable root login, and only have one user with a ssh account. I'd like to use this setup so I can ssh in from a remote location. I'm assuming that by removing shell access for this user, things are more secure
 
6:54 PM
it doesn't store audit logoff events?
 
Setup your sshd_config to have AllowTcpForwarding yes and ForceCommand /bin/false?
 
@TessellatingHeckler Huh?
 
@portforwardpodcast I'm reminded of a conversation (rant) I had on here last night.
 
@Zoredache thanks!!
 
6:55 PM
Not sure that disabling a shell will really make a huge difference. The bigger point would be to disable password authentication, and make sure your system is locked down.
 
but why are you setting up said tunnel?
You can do it, sure - just do like Zoredache said (you can even do it in your authorized_keys file for a specific key)
 
@TessellatingHeckler great! I'd love to hear it
 
"I am receiving complaints from users about wanting to see that accessing any links mysite.org/xxx/xxx be automatically redirected to mysite.org/xxx/xxx"; -- I read that too fast and thought I had a client who did porn hosting with the new .xxx TLD
 
I'm concerned about island hopping
 
Presumably, if you can remotely admin with that forwarding, then an evil person could do the evil stuff.
 
6:56 PM
but SSH tunnels are specialist tools that solve a specific set of problems. There are often FAR better ways to do things :)
@Holocryptic PORN PORN PORN PORN! :-)
 
like vpn @voretaq7 ?
 
@voretaq7 Like a proper VPN :)
 
@portforwardpodcast usually, yeah :)
 
I've never setup VPN. What's the best package to go with?
 
Repeat after me: I must not access porn whilst on the work VPN
 
6:57 PM
I use SSH tunnels to access our monitoring server. I do it because I SSH into that box regularly, and it's easy to just set up -L8181:127.0.0.1:8181 and not have to VPN :)
 
I use putty
 
@portforwardpodcast OpenVPN is pretty reliable and relatively easy to set up. And it comes with two free concurrent licenses.
They have pre-built .debs and .rpms for the access server.
 
what did I say, something about a typical SSH interaction being "how do I try to bodge security onto this encrypted ancient shell for file transfer" ... chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/127?m=1638845#1638845
then here you are asking "I have a protocol for SHELL access, which I want to use as a TCP ROUTER, can you tell me which parts of which config files to bodge to make that sort of work well enough"
 
LOL ya that's true
 
@TessellatingHeckler that's unfair to SSH -- the port forwarding is pure hackery, but SFTP/SCP are actually defined protocols that can be activated independently of shell logins
it just happens that we bodged them into sshd because... well idunno, ask Theo. He's the nutcase OCD security badger.
 
7:01 PM
@MarkM openvpn needs licenses? D:
 
Re: the VPN, I'd configure it on your firewall. If you're using pfsense that has VPN bits built in, otherwise OpenVPN isn't bad
 
@TessellatingHeckler, not for the open source version. But if you want the fancy gui it does.
 
anyway, why use openvpn when Linux kernel has IPSEC built in?
 
@TessellatingHeckler because Raccoon IKE is Satan's asshole after a bad burrito.
 
@TessellatingHeckler The OpenVPN Access Server w. nice web gui does. It's something like $5 per concurrent seat.
 
7:03 PM
@TessellatingHeckler, people who have ugly NAT setups?
 
@Zoredache My NAT setup is not ugly!
it's... comely. Plain even. Not the most glamorous belle at the ball...
OK fine it's a 97 year old crone with warts and she smells bad. It's NAT for cryin' out loud - you can't make that pretty no matter what you do!
 
@voretaq7, mine was. Trying to get everything working with ipsec was painful. OpenVPN was comparatively simple.
 
@voretaq7 is raccoon that bad? here's a helpful serverfault user giving a workable config ... serverfault.com/questions/193991/… ;)
@voretaq7 is raccoon that bad? here's a helpful serverfault user giving a workable config ... serverfault.com/questions/193991/… ;)
 
@TessellatingHeckler I've never gotten raccoon to stay working reliably - usually I just sigh and hardcode stuff into ipsec.conf
 
I got it to stay working reliably. I also configured a cron ping script to keep it alive. cough
 
7:07 PM
@TessellatingHeckler HACKERYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
 
well ... yes
 
as long as you admit it :)
 
hmm, it's 20:11, wasn't I supposed to have something to do at 20:00hrs? ... ah yes, there's my "reminder" from Outlook hiding behind all my other windows.
:/
 
@TessellatingHeckler it's only 15:13. you have plenty of time. No Worries.
(Alternative Answer: It's Beer-Thirty SOMEWHERE)
 
Anyone have any advice for troubleshooting "The naming context is in the process of being removed or is not replicated from the spceified server" when attempting to force replication?
 
7:13 PM
@TessellatingHeckler racoon (the ike daemon) is mispelled from the creature raccoon on purpose. =]
@voretaq7 racoon has always worked for me, rock solid.. But I've only used it on S2S VPN links.
 
@ChrisS I hard-code my S2S links
@KyleBrandt migrate away from windows? ducks
 
@KyleBrandt How's your DNS? Sounds like a DC has lost connectivity (But as always I bet it hasn't and is just being silly)
 
runs hides behind domain controller
 
@KyleBrandt, Did you recently do a demotion?
 
Only if ... only if ...
@ITHedgeHog: I can ping the other domain controllers at least
!@#$ it maybe rebooting will help
 
7:16 PM
hey guys
 
@ITHedgeHog 's the only time I ever saw that error - we had a "stale" DC entry that hadn't existed for like 2 years but never got demoted/removed from the domain properly
(apparently when you do that AD gets VERY upset)
 
@Zoredache: Ya, a while ago it was funny and did a demotion and then repromoted it
 
when I'm setting up my new router that will work with VLANs, which LAN do I put its physical LAN address in? The management VLAN?
I'm going to have 3 VLANS, Workstations/Servers, Phones, and Mgmt
 
...? it needn't have a physical LAN address if it's all VLANs
 
it can't have a VLAN if it doesn't have a LAN address
 
7:18 PM
what do you mean 'lan address'? Some switches have obscure terminology.
 
I need to assign an IP address to the physical LAN interface on this router
 
@hobodave you mean the IP? the management vLAN or a dedicated "switches and routers management network"
 
that sounds badly designed
 
@hobodave, what kind of router? Usually you assign an IP per VLAN.
 
it's a pfsense router
 
7:19 PM
@kylebrandt: I think it means digging into dcdiag to see what the AD servers think they're able to talk to.
Maybe an old domain name or it thinks an old server is still there and stuck.
 
@hobodave pfsense should have one IP per network it's talking to (one foot in every vlan)
 
Interesting, the DNS entry goes away when it is rebooted
 
...does it reappear?
 
@voretaq7 so you don't assign an address to the actual physical interface?
 
not if you're gonna vlan the whole thing -- just put the management interface on the IP in the management vlan
@KyleBrandt starred for its out of context beauty
 
7:21 PM
ok, done banging my head on the desk here
 
@SpacemanSpiff no you aren't. there's still a desk there.
 
it burns!!!
i've got a guest netware server on an esxi 4.1 server behind a dell blade switch
 
@SpacemanSpiff that burning sensation is normal when you use netware.
 
I know pfSense doesn't require interfaces to have an IP; must be something in the webgui (which I never liked...)
 
all the VM's on the server exhibit the same behavior
 
7:23 PM
"The WinRM failed to create the following SPNs... WSMAN/<dc-name>..."
That doesn't sound good
 
if I bring up a L3 interface on the dell switch, it can easily ping devices on the other side of the trunk to the core
 
@KyleBrandt that barely sounds coherent
 
Wow, three rows of people in da hizouse.
 
but the guests on the ESXi box seem to take FOREVER for ARP resolution, if it resolves at all
 
we prefer the less formal "hizzy", or simply "crib" if you prefer.
Would you care for some tea and strumpets?
 
7:24 PM
@KyleBrandt, the nuclear option would be to demote it, do an ad clean up of any of the crap left, and join again.
 
Hmm...
 
@WesleyDavid no kidding. I've never seen this many people here.
 
If that would actually help
 
@Kylebrandt: that's showing in the logs or something from dcdiag?
 
@Zoredache: Define "cleanup"
 
7:25 PM
@SpacemanSpiff hmm, funkiness with the virtual switch perhaps?
 
pfSense has FreeBSD at it's core. FreeBSD has physical interfaces (real ones connected to a NIC and fake ones for VMs), you then connect those to a vLan interface, or link aggregation (teaming), or bridging, or whatever sort of topology you want to create.
 
@BartSilverstrim: Logs after reboot
 
Each of those, physical or one of the layers can have an IP assigned to it, or not.
 
@voretaq7 - that seems to be the suspect yes
 
7:26 PM
the question is why is the vswitch being funky...
 
Time to go mow my lawn I think. Later all!
 
is it vlan'd or just natively spewing?
 
from the dell blade, i have 4 ports all set as trunks with appropriate VLANS sent to the ESXi box for port groups all to the same vswitch
 
But there should be a less painful fix. Just not sure what it is.
 
one vswitch basically for production traffic, multiple port groups (by VLAN)
 
7:27 PM
@Zoredache: Hmm... nothing there for 2008 R2
 
Something with Exchange, but I doubt that's the issue.
Network service issue I keep finding.
 
@Zoredache cut down your forest and start over? Not sure if that hurts more or less, but definitely upsets the users more.
 
@SpacemanSpiff ok thats pretty normal - and the ARP resolution does eventually work?
 
Does DCDiag show what part of replication isn't working?
 
7:28 PM
@voretaq7, it completely depends on the setup. Assuming your domain has multiple DCs, and all the others are working, and the DC with problems is not providing any other service, then a demote/cleanup/promote isn't that bad.
 
can you try wireshark-ing one of the VMs and send ARP packets at it from the physical switch?
 
Its very inconsistent
 
So, do I have to beg here for a careers.so invite? Anyone want to toss me one?
 
hrmm... i could probably do that from one of the windows boxes
 
@SpacemanSpiff if you don't see the ARP (or its inconsistently getting dropped) that's a starting point - the fact that it's inconsistent is strange though
 
7:30 PM
Balls, can't depromo it
 
kinda makes me wonder about hypervisor load, but I think the vswitch has a higher priority than the VMs anyway...
 
the physical switch (in the blade center) can ping both the guest, and the destination upstream
could something in the physical switch be quashing the arp broadcast?
 
@kylebrandt: don't know if this would be related? ceyhunkirmizitas.net/microsoft/windows-server/…
 
@SpacemanSpiff possibly but I'm not sure what - normally they just pass ARP packets along
 
@voretaq7 Yeah AD gets very upset if you don't demote properly. I've had to manually remove a few DC's in my time.
 
7:33 PM
It should be purely a L2 device, I only lit up the L3 interface to see if it could reach the endpoints.
 
@ITHedgeHog oh no they did worse than that. The machine died so they just wheeled its corpse out the door. AD thought it was still a domain member too.
 
Ya, so it is delegated to the wrong domain in seems
 
The funny part of AD is that there are times your replication can get screwed up, yet it'll seem to keep working. You just get gremlins on the network.
 
This server is very special
 
@KyleBrandt it drives the short bus it does?
 
7:33 PM
@voretaq7 lulz, very nice.
The very very short bus
 
We had goofiness awhile ago that was attributed to a replication issue, had to dig around with dcdiag to figure out what was going on :-/
 
@ITHedgeHog it's a virtual domain controller? I think those ride around in a red wagon, towed behind a Vespa.
 
dcdiag /fix works wonders if the moons align
 
@KyleBrandt, when did you do that domain rename?
 
Couple weekends ago
We didn't really rename though
We created a new domain with new DCs, and then joined stuff to them
 
7:35 PM
oh, and beware AD and DNS goofiness...AD really doesn't like DNS alterations...
dcdiag /test:dns
 
@BartSilverstrim AD is just fine with DNS alterations ThankYouVeryMuch. It just wants to be the only one making them.
 
dcdiag /checksecurityerror
 
AD is like a little child: It sees various things on the network, grabs them and shouts "MINE!", then pitches a fit when anyone else tries to touch them.
5
 
Oh, sure, I'm gonna trust AD to do that...uh huh...
AD throws rocks at Linux clients.
 
"Why doesn't @BartSilverstrim LOVE ME??? WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"

Now see what you did? You made the domain controller cry!
@BartSilverstrim rocks? I always thought it was just poo...
 
7:37 PM
It doesn't cry. It just randomly drops me from the domain.
 
My favorite game? Disabling computer accounts and blaming rogue DC's
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@BartSilverstrim Spite isn't random!
 
I was expecting 2-4 hours of slow vmware copying. 20 minutes later, it's finished and the server has booted. whooo
 
Wait, you have to disable them? Our AD does that on its own.
 
fml
my router is now completely inaccessible
 
7:40 PM
@BartSilverstrim you need to smear Microsoft on the Linux machines, otherwise when Windows smells them it won't recognize them as part of the pack.
@hobodave mrr?
is it still routing?
 
how could I know
I can't access it at all
 
He neglected to mention that he hit it with a bat first and NOW it's inaccessible.
 
@hobodave you vlan tagged the management IP and your client isn't in a vlan, right?
>_>
 
I created the 50 vlan and assigned it an IP address of 172.22.50.1 in the router
 
@TessellatingHeckler I've never done that. No. Never. Ever. Well maybe that one time.
 
7:41 PM
and I removed the IP address of the "LAN" interface
and I created a 50 clan on my macbook pro
put in the static info
and I cannot ping the router
 
did you put any physical ports into vlan 50 on the router?
 
there is only the one port
I created the VLAN 50 "on" the vr0 interface
great, there's no reset button
wasted an entire day and evening now
as;lfjads;lfjasdl;fkjadsfl;k
 
it's absolutely flummudged?
 
there's no way I can get to the damn thing now
I'm going to have to go buy a CF writer and reformat the drive
after completely disassembling it
 
There must be something.
 
7:43 PM
@hobodave what model box is it? There's usually a factory reset (or a CD-ROM drive, or a console)
 
I knew it felt wrong/stupid to remove the IP address from the physical interface
 
@hobodave, Configure your desktop to tag packets for vlan 50 maybe?
 
it's a netgate 2D2
@Zoredache i tried that, it was unsuccessful
 
Run a tcpdump on the interface that is plugged into and reboot, you may see some traffic?
 
I wish I could tell my computer to prioritize my wireless interface
 
7:45 PM
@hobodave IP addresses don't belong to physical interfaces, they belong to some virtual idea of a network connection point. You can have two interfaces in a bridge with one IP, or in a team, or one interface with many VLANs and no IP
tagged or untagged into the VLANs (HP speak)
 
@hobodave just throw a serial console on that COM port and you can reset to factory defaults from there
 
evertime I enable ethernet it rips that off
 
@hobodave, connect via the serial cable?
 
@voretaq7 I don't have one of those, nor know how to do that
 
vewwy intewesting
 
7:46 PM
gonna try tcpdump, I'll disconnect
back in a few
 
no serial cable is the harder problem to solve -- it's a pain in the ass to find those in stores these days
 
Get a couple db9 to rj45 connectors, and fix the wiring to work with a standard cat 5 cable.
 
@Zoredache and get one of these while you're at it... img233.imageshack.us/img233/2038/ethernkillervo5.jpg
 
@TessellatingHeckler, what is that for?
 
@Zoredache thats what Ido
 
7:50 PM
@voretaq7 - moved VM to port group with same VLAN on a different vswitch that has different NICs
works fine, first try
 
@Zoredache it's known as "the Ethernet Killer"
 
seems plenty of vmware threads on intel nics dropping arp requests :O
 
If it matches this, it sounds like @hobodave may need a serial cable to reset it, as has been suggested docs.google.com/…
 
@SpacemanSpiff !!!
 
now, those broadcom nics in the other vSwitch go to a different blade fabric switch, but the configuration of the two fabrics is identical, and go back to the same juniper core
 
7:54 PM
@TessellatingHeckler, oh I see, UK power. I never have understood why there is no standardization of power connectors across the world. Didn't recognize it, i am used to a NEMA 5-15.
 
@Zoredache that's US power, UK power is bridgat.com/files/UK_BS_power_cords.jpg
 
@TessellatingHeckler Looks like Italian power - our hot & neutral contacts are vertical blades, not round posts
 
stupid EMC...won't close. Tells me there's a dialog box open. Liar!!
 
@voretaq7 Looks european, 220
 
you world and your non-uk power plugs
at least we have a sensible difference, yours are all "well the pins are a bit rounder"
"they're 1mm different spacing"
etc.
 
7:57 PM
Is that from the US? Perhaps it is just that the picture isn't good, but the non-rj45 end looks like a cylinder. In the US that might go to the ground pin, which shouldn't kill anything assuming the building is wired correctly.
 
FML
nothing
 
@Zoredache bad assumption
 
does my laptop need an IP address on the non virtual interface for the clan interface to work?
vlan
 
@Zoredache or in the words of the PDU at my last place: "GROUND OVERCURRENT!"
 
This feels like a dupe to me but I can't find one serverfault.com/questions/301768/…
 
7:58 PM
it never occurred to me that you might not recognise a mains power plug because the pins are round, not rectangular
unless you were expecting a serious cable, not a joke, I guess
 
@hobodave shouldn't as long as the vlan interface is tied to a native physical one
 
@Zoredache images.jr-international.fr/images_jr/medium/FM16.jpg This is what I'd see all the time in Europe when I lived there
 
@TessellatingHeckler that IS a serious cable
 
220 v
 
ok then that wasn't the problem
 

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