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JSBᾶngs

5:00 PM

so "carrying coals to newcastle" is currently at the top of the multicollider. i suppose it was inevitable

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

So for those of you with kids, a lullaby.

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z7sg Ѫ

@KitΘδς That's what we found out happens if we deviate too far from incomprehensibility.

JSBᾶngs

@MrShinyandNew安宇 heh. our little one is still not feeling well, so i appreciate this

he's going to the doctor tomorrow

KitΘδς

@JSBᾶngs He's still sick? Big sympathetic hugs.

JSBᾶngs

@KitΘδς thanks

Cerberus

5:04 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Exactly: there is nothing comprehensible here.

KitΘδς

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Very nice. Made me a bit misty. Especially the part about when is rocking rocking and when is it shaking.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JSBᾶngs Hope your kid gets better soon.

aedia λ

@JSBᾶngs Aww, I hope he gets better soon!

Cerberus

@JSBᾶngs Is it serious?

aedia λ

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Jinx.

JSBᾶngs

5:05 PM

@Cerberus i doubt it. it seems like he just has strep throat. which, to be granted, is a pretty difficult thing for a 16-month old

aedia λ

@JSBᾶngs Oh noes! I hate strep throat.

Chicken pox is worse, but I think they vaccinate for that now, right?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@aediaλ Can't speak for the rest of the world, but they do in Ontario, where I live.

JSBᾶngs

@aediaλ they do. i was mildly put out by the loss of a treasured childhood rite-of-passage when my kids were vaccinated

piobyz

Hi, any native speaker interested in Goodies license (goodiesapp.com) in exchange for proof-reading of Goodies' press kit?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JSBᾶngs rite-of-passage it may be, but I was robbed, I got my chicken pox in the SUMMER.

JSBᾶngs

5:10 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 well, that's a tragedy. altho i think i got my pox before i was going to school

z7sg Ѫ

@MrShinyandNew安宇 They don't vaccinate in the UK. Natural exposure is supposedly a better vaccine against shingles.

Jez

Kick measles's ass, immune system!

aedia λ

@JSBᾶngs I remember it well, for I was in fourth grade, out for at least a whole week of school, and I still have a few scars from the worst of the pox.

JSBᾶngs

@z7sgѪ my brother got shingles. he seems to have recovered well, though

aedia λ

I remember being horrified to see myself in the mirror.

Cerberus

5:14 PM

@JSBᾶngs Ow OK, I'm glad it isn't some mysterious scary thing.

JSBᾶngs

today's food-related discovery: potato salad is much improved by the addition of jalapenos

KitΘδς

I remember sharing a puke bucket with my two brothers, lying on the couch, and watching Sesame Street.

z7sg Ѫ

@JSBᾶngs That's good. It sounds pretty nasty. Far worse than a childhood bout of the chicken pox plus the possibility of complications.

Mana ಠдಠ

welp

JSBᾶngs

@KitΘδς puking? from chicken pox?

KitΘδς

5:14 PM

@JSBᾶngs tch You didn't know that? pft Next you'll tell me you've never added mustard and horseradish. joke

JSBᾶngs

@z7sgѪ he got shingles as a child, just a few years after originally having chicken pox. so that was ~20 yrs ago

KitΘδς

@JSBᾶngs Well, my recollection is that it was chicken pox. I was really young.

JSBᾶngs

@KitΘδς this is a romanian-style potato salad, in which mustard is standard-issue. jalapenos are not normally part of the recipe, but they will be from now on

KitΘδς

@JSBᾶngs Sounds delish.

JSBᾶngs

@KitΘδς romanian potato salad is way better than the nasty, pasty american stuff

KitΘδς

5:17 PM

My mother-in-law makes some awesome potato salad. I had never liked it (in general) before, but I was forced to politely accept some and eat it so as not to offend her.

JSBᾶngs

there are two secret ingredients to the romanian style: homemade mayonnaise, and onions blanched in vinegar. and mustard. and now, jalapenos

KitΘδς

Sounds like your chief weapon is surprise...

Amongst your secret ingredients are...

Next time I visit, you will have to serve me some.

JSBᾶngs

@KitΘδς i'm curious about your mother-in-law's recipe now

@KitΘδς are you in the East somewhere? or have i confused you with martha?

KitΘδς

Martha and I are both Eastern Seaboard. I live in New England though.

She uses green onions in hers.

JSBᾶngs

@KitΘδς a promising start. is there also bacon?

KitΘδς

5:25 PM

No, but that sounds good.

JSBᾶngs

@KitΘδς i once ate at a southern bbq joint that served some excellent potato salad filled with real bacon bits

KitΘδς

She might use leftover homefries. I'm not really sure.

@JSBᾶngs Southerners really know potato salad, slaw, and BBQ.

Gotta go to lunch. Later!

JSBᾶngs

@KitΘδς injoy it

FallenAngelEyes

@JSBᾶngs I thought you were describing a chicken pox remedy and thought waaaugh, why would you put jalepeños in that?!

3

JSBᾶngs

that deserves a star

who knows, maybe jalapenos are an excellent chicken pox remedy

z7sg Ѫ

5:35 PM

Oh crap the idiots who invented staycation have now come up with another new word: worliday. :(

FallenAngelEyes

@z7sgѪ twitch

I have this irrational hatred of the word staycation

It makes me want to punch kittens

Cerberus

That would be justified.

Thankfully I don't really know what it could mean.

z7sg Ѫ

I'm sure it's not irrational! There are millions of us who hate it. It's just that we are not the editors of mainstream media who think it's cool to coin irritating new words.

Cerberus

Exactly.

Many people just don't care about style.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

5:51 PM

@JSBngs jalapenos chille dogs are best!

uh Oh; Now I'm starting to speak like Sonic...

@Kit Coleslaw!

You know, don't hate me for this, but I love irrational word, like staycation.

The thing is, I love neologism

worliday is good too.

Cerberus

Eww.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

@Cerberus why?

Heck, I have even invented my own irratonal words: Phychotic, RecNet, ect.

Cerberus

Aaaahhhhhhh!

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAH......

Cerberus

I don't like new things.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

6:01 PM

Old timers don't.

Cerberus

I don't like anything having to do with the advertisement business.

I'm 28, and al my friends would agree.

KitΘδς

I agree.

Stupid staycation. punch, punch, punch yowl, yowl, yowl

Cerberus

Let's pull it out of its home and put it in a rack of shame on the village square, or whatever it's called.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

haters gotta hate...

KitΘδς

In the stocks on the common!

Get the pitchforks! Get the torches!

Cerberus

6:04 PM

The stocks! That's it. I don't know the Dutch word either.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

FRANKENSTEIN!!!

Cerberus

Tar and feathers!

KitΘδς

It's pronounced *Fronk*-en-stein.

Ride it out of town on a rail!

Cerberus

And let's put it in a c...oh.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

NO!!! NEOLOGISM RULES!!!

Cerberus

6:06 PM

It rules over the cage in which it is being egged on the common every morning.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

....thats random.

Cerberus

Is that you?

Jez

Am I the only one who thinks Victoria Coren combines intelligence, cuteness, and raw sex appeal in a way which no Earthly woman has any right to?

JSBᾶngs

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Q: What is the opposite of "green"?

What best completes this sentence? Joe, in opposition to environment-friendly sentiments, has decided to go ____.

@Cerberus i hope that's not Jez

KitΘδς

@Jez Yes.

JSBᾶngs

6:09 PM

anyway, ^^^ i voted "not constructive" on this question based on our guidelines for single-word-requests

Jez

@Kit tell me you wouldn't like to be hers :-)

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

@Jez ...no comment.

JSBᾶngs

@Jez i haven't ever seen this woman before, but i can't say i mind this picture

Jez

She's hosting the gameshow Only Connect tonight. I shall be watching.

KitΘδς

@Jez She's too young, she's trying too hard, her hair is bleached and her nose is too big, if you must know.

Jez

6:11 PM

too young? lol

KitΘδς

And her asymmetric eyes bug me.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

bit ugly, I suppose.

JSBᾶngs

@KitΘδς how old is she? i like the picture above, but having just googled her i'm less impressed now

i wouldn't call her ugly. but not quite my cup o' tea

Jez

oh ok. well if you guys think she's ugly I'll take her

KitΘδς

@JSBᾶngs I agreed and so voted.

Jez

6:12 PM

:-)

Cerberus

She looks fine, though her cheeks are a tiny bit puffy.

Jez

i find her painfully attractive, especially when you throw in the fact that she's probably more intelligent than me

she could outwit me, dominate me, and turn me on all at once

user19161

@JSBᾶngs I am having one now.

Jez

mmmmm

JSBᾶngs

@KitΘδς it has the fundamental problem of asking for an antonym for a word that does not necessarily have an antonym

user19161

6:13 PM

@Jez Her or hers?

Cerberus

@Jez At least you're not into mindless dolls!

JSBᾶngs

@JasperLoy ... there are so many ways i could misinterpret this sentence

Jez

'hers' is possessive

why would that make sense?

KitΘδς

OK, she's not too young.

user19161

@Jez She is attractive in a special way, but not a usual way.

JSBᾶngs

6:14 PM

@KitΘδς yeah, she's much older than me

user19161

@Jez Good luck!

Mana ಠдಠ

Lalalala *drops picture into chat* lalalala

Jez

user19161

@Cerberus That is what happens when we age.

KitΘδς

@JSBᾶngs Well, you could argue that there is an opposite concept, but why does the OP need a single word for his "go something" phrase? Useless.

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

6:14 PM

Yo mana!

JSBᾶngs

@Manaಠдಠ what is this? she's much prettier than the other person we're discussing

Jez

FallenAngelEyes

Why is there critique of some random lady in here?

Cerberus

@Jez I like this picture better.

Jez

sexycute overload

user19161

6:15 PM

@FallenAngelEyes I thought the word was a joke until I realised it really existed.

Mana ಠдಠ

@JSBngs Since we were talking about girls I figured I'd drop a picture of a girl and see what would happen to the chat. Mainly for my own amusement.

KitΘδς

@Cerberus Ditto.

Cerberus

@Manaಠдಠ That is not a real human being, and it's hardly 14!

JSBᾶngs

@Manaಠдಠ it works better if you put the actual picture in

Mana ಠдಠ

@FallenAngelEyes "Incomprehensible Room"

ChaosGamer ΕΛ-Υ ēel-ū

6:16 PM

Its getting boring in here. ttyl.

Cerberus

@Jez Tiny bit puffy, but it's also her position.

Mana ಠдಠ

JSBᾶngs

@Cerberus if that's CGI it's extremely convincing cgi

Cerberus

@JSBᾶngs CGI?

Mana ಠдಠ

Computer Generated Image

user19161

6:17 PM

@Manaಠдಠ Like Mana.

Cerberus

I only know what I call bimbos: AU (Artificial Unintelligence).

@Manaಠдಠ Ah. Is it? It certainly looks photoshopped.

Jez

wow.

Mana ಠдಠ

@Cerberus Which one?

JSBᾶngs

@Cerberus photoshopped, yes. computer-generated, no

Jez

give me her now

Mana ಠдಠ

6:18 PM

@Jez "Image not found"

JSBᾶngs

she (elizabeth, not victoria) looks like my sister-in-law

Cerberus

KitΘδς

@JSBᾶngs You're right. A little older, and that would be my type.

Jez

@Mana I don't get that

Mana ಠдಠ

also this room is getting slightly creepy so I'm going to go kick over back to The Bridge. Peace!

Cerberus

6:19 PM

@Manaಠдಠ This one.

Mana ಠдಠ

@Cerberus Amazing. How'd you do it?

user19161

@JSBᾶngs Then your wife must be very attractive!

Mana ಠдಠ

That being said, it's not computer generated, it's an actual person doing cosplay.

JSBᾶngs

@Manaಠдಠ oh, we've gotten much creepier than this

Cerberus

@Manaಠдಠ Just screenshotted.

Mana ಠдಠ

6:20 PM

Oh, I see.

Cerberus

I like Jez's woman better because she actually looks real.

JSBᾶngs

anyway, how old is this person supposed to be? doesn't look 14 to me.

Jez

women who are like "I'm sexy, intelligent, and I know it" are the BIGGEST turn on for me

;-)

Cerberus

@Jez Very good.

@JSBᾶngs 14.5?

user19161

@Jez I hope you meet one soon. I have met one. Her name is L*****.

Jez

6:22 PM

haha

JSBᾶngs

@Cerberus seriously? i read her as at least 17, and i'd believe as old as 25. but i think i'm projecting my sister-in-law's age onto her (she's 24)

KitΘδς

@Manaಠдಠ And you don't think cosplay is a little creepy?

JSBᾶngs

@KitΘδς cosplay is awesome! and not creepy. well, not usually

user19161

@KitΘδς I only came across the word "cosplay" last year.

Jez

Seriously, if it were Angelina or Victoria, I'd go for Victoria.

KitΘδς

6:23 PM

I have some good ones of me in what I'd describe as Norwegian get-up, from back when my hair was long.

@JSBᾶngs I'd say a teenager.

@JasperLoy First time I've heard it.

JSBᾶngs

@KitΘδς i think you're probably right. but still, not so young that the image strikes me as creepy

@Kit @Jasper am i the only person here nerdy enough to have known what cosplay is?

KitΘδς

No, I don't think it's creepy. It's pretty.

user19161

@KitΘδς Well, I only encountered it because I was on a certain kind of website, details omitted.

KitΘδς

@JSBᾶngs I know of the idea. I hadn't heard the word before though.

user19161

@KitΘδς I hate it actually.

Cerberus

6:26 PM

@JSBᾶngs I'm exaggerating on purpose: she just looks young.

user19161

@Cerberus Like you.

Jez

why have we veered off the discussion of the gorgeous Victoria Coren?

JSBᾶngs

@Jez b/c most of us like the other picture better. sorry.

KitΘδς

This one is more my type. And available, apparently.

FallenAngelEyes

@Jez She's not my type

Cerberus

6:27 PM

@JSBᾶngs I rad about it maybe two years ago; it's some Asian game where people dress up, I gather.

KitΘδς

@Jez She could be hot, she could be sexy, but she is not gorgeous.

FallenAngelEyes

Cosplay is spiffy

user19161

@KitΘδς She is not my type.

Jez

@Kit nonsense

user19161

@Jez She is sort of my type too.

JSBᾶngs

6:28 PM

@Kit, did you just send me to a site called "hot russian brides"?

Cerberus

@KitΘδς I don't know, she looks a bit cheap.

user19161

@JSBᾶngs Yes.

Cerberus

I find cheapness or studpidity extremely unappealing in either sex,

KitΘδς

Aug 3 at 15:01, by Kit

@Cerberus Cheap hookers are the best kind!

Jez

She's the kind of woman who makes you cry because you don't have her.

KitΘδς

6:29 PM

Aug 3 at 15:03, by Kit

@Cerberus Because no one does that kind of work for peanuts unless they really like the peanuts.

Cerberus

@KitΘδς Yeah to make a lot of money out of them!

@Jez Then get her?

Jez

i wish

unfortunately i havent seen a Victoria Coren shop round here

user19161

@KitΘδς But many of them are so because of circumstances.

Cerberus

@Jez Order something similar off the internet?

Jez

i wasnt aware you could do that

user19161

6:30 PM

@Jez What has the person got to do with the shop?

user19161

Oh, now I get it!

JSBᾶngs

see @Mana? now the discussion is creepy, what with the cheap hookers and buying hot russian Victoria Corens off the internet

Mana ಠдಠ

@JSBngs It's because I planted the idea in your minds, subtly.

Jez

there's only one Victoria Coren. And I want to give her my number

Mana ಠдಠ

I N C E P T I O N

user19161

6:33 PM

@Manaಠдಠ Isn't that a movie?

user19161

@Jez You can advertise on your website too.

Cerberus

@JSBᾶngs We did that quite efficiently, didn't we.

user19161

@JSBᾶngs Oh dear, I meant tea. I am having a cup of tea now.

user19161

@Cerberus But usually they are so because of circumstances.

Cerberus

@JasperLoy No, I meant, if you have cheap hookers, you can rent them out to people, ask double, and cash the difference.

JSBᾶngs

6:38 PM

ye gods, can we please quash the pimping discussion?

Cerberus

@JasperLoy In the red-light district here, it is said that 2/3 of the girls are forced to work there.

user19161

@Cerberus That is what I meant, victims of circumstances.

Cerberus

Yup.

But it is very hard to do anything about it.

user19161

So they actually deserve our sympathy and not our despise.

Cerberus

I do not despise them.

If you forbid prostitution, they will do it illegally.

I spoke to the city councillor, and she explained how extraordinarily difficult it is to prove anything. Those girls all lie and say they are working out of their own free will (threatened by their pimps), and their papers are all in order.

user19161

6:43 PM

I hope they find some kind man and then get married or something like that.

Cerberus

Very difficult.

They all stop after a time, perhaps a few years; and then they can make something of heir lives.

user19161

The multi-person discussion ended quite suddenly.

KitΘδς

I had a meeting.

user19161

I thought people were getting suspended from chat again.

user19161

I wanted to help piobyz with proofreading but one page seems a bit too long for me.

user19161

6:47 PM

He left after two attempts I guess.

KitΘδς

You could try pinging him. @piobyz!

user19161

@KitΘδς No it is too long for me like I said. Never mind.

user19161

sips tea

user19161

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Q: What is the difference between "lay" and "lie"?

How do I know when to use lay and when to use lie, and what are the different forms of each verb? I'm always getting them confused.

verbs differences confusables

user19161

I guess nohat just wanted to add this question to the site. I voted to close as general reference since we can just look it up in a dictionary.

JSBᾶngs

6:56 PM

@JasperLoy no. this question is really old, for one, and it's extremely easy to confuse. while it can be looked up, there's significant benefit to distilling the answer down to something useful

user19161

@JSBᾶngs OK. I just saw you on TV just now by the way.

JSBᾶngs

@JasperLoy i'm pretty sure you didn't. where?

user19161

@JSBᾶngs Casino Royale.

JSBᾶngs

oh, ok. yes, of course that's me

user19161

There are a few gamers here now because yesterday I said in the gaming room that this room is very interesting too.

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