The Nineteenth Byte

12:01 AM

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A: Proposed Question Sandbox - Mark XIII

This would be a code-golf Reverse Bit Order of 32-bit Integers Write the shortest code to reverse the bit order of a 32-bit integer. Rules: Input is assumed to be a valid, signed (if possible) integer. Output must be a valid, signed (if possible) integer. Standard library only. Examples:...

Kyle Kanos

12:57 AM

@Quincunx Did it completely in my head by starting at Z

Though once I hit P, I figured out what the first 8 characters were...

New Sandboxed Posts

7:07 AM

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A: Proposed Question Sandbox - Mark XIII

This will be a code-golf. Increment bitwise Make a function that increments a number using only bitwise, loops, and conditions. Rules: Only the following operators and their equivalents are permitted (as long as your language has them): = (simple assignment) ~ (not) &/&= (and) |/|= (or) ...

m.buettner

8:05 AM

nnnnoooooooooooooo

I was hoping to get 5555 rep today (along with 1 gold, 11 silver and 44 bronze badges)

but now someone upvoted one of my challenges and I'm at 5550... (and it seems unlikely that I'll get another question upvote before some answer upvote)

m.buettner

10:05 AM

aaaaaand, missed it

ProgramFOX

@m.buettner Aaaaand, saved it!

m.buettner

@ProgramFOX no I went from 5550 to 5560

or maybe I didn't

ProgramFOX

Replace the %3A with a semicolon and you'll see :D

@m.buettner Ok, link fixed.

m.buettner

ha, did you retract an upvote on the vigil answer and upvoted the question instead? ^^ thanks!

ProgramFOX

Yes, I did.

m.buettner

10:13 AM

sweet :D

Peter Taylor

12:01 PM

@hosch250 (if you read chat), @Quincunx: I've changed the tag description for arithmetic, because the previous one was severely at odds with reality.

m.buettner

@Doorknob can superping hosch250 if he doesn't read chat

Doorknob

12:43 PM

@hosch250 ^

ok, there

New Meta Posts

1:17 PM

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Q: Am I supposed to be able to favorite my own questions?

Am I supposed to be able to favorite my own question? It doesn't seem right...

Chris Jester-Young

1:32 PM

@m.buettner Nice. At one point, I had 101,101 rep on Stack Overflow. (Maybe one day I may hit 111,111 exactly.)

m.buettner

@ChrisJester-Young I think I used to have a screenshot of 22,222 on SO.

Chris Jester-Young

Nice, nice. :-)

Rusher

If you hit 111,119 then call us and we'll all serially downvote your stuff to 111,111

Chris Jester-Young

Lol.

Geobits

My favorite was my 9,999 screenshot. So close...

ProgramFOX

1:36 PM

My favorite was my 99,999 screenshot, that I took once on a non-SE site.

Chris Jester-Young

@ProgramFOX What kind of non-SE site has rep? ;-)

Trimsty

i don't have screenshots, my rep here (655) is my highest on any site

ProgramFOX

@ChrisJester-Young CodeProject has.

Chris Jester-Young

Huh.

m.buettner

@ChrisJester-Young thanks for editing the comment... it seemed a bit like you were using your mod-nuke because you declared language-specific questions as off-topic ;)

Chris Jester-Young

1:38 PM

@m.buettner Yeah, I can understand why a new user might think that, for sure. :-)

Rusher

CJY can you mod another mod's comments?

Can you add a close paren to the end of Doorknob's starred post?

Can you also delete all traces that I asked this question of you?

Thank you kind sir. #whatmodsarefor

Chris Jester-Young

@Rusher Uh, what? (Also, you can delete your own messages.)

Rusher

I can't after two minutes, and you didn't comply within that time frame.

"abuses mod powers" needs a close parentheses at the end of it

17 hours ago, by Doorknob

abuses mod powers

m.buettner

@Rusher not all traces, mods can see deleted posts

Rusher

Oh no

Plan foiled! Abort!

ProgramFOX

1:43 PM

@Rusher All traces? Impossible. #whatscreenshotsarefor

Chris Jester-Young

@m.buettner Indeed, and in fact, I have mentioned before that deleting messages in the mod-only chatroom has a Streisand Effect. ;-)

Rusher

Googles Streisand Effect

Geobits

Rusher

Wait I know what to do.

CJY, can you not mod Doorknob's comment? Geobits, can you take a screenshot?

Geobits

?

Chris Jester-Young

1:46 PM

Streisand effect

The Streisand effect is the phenomenon whereby an attempt to hide, remove, or censor a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely, usually facilitated by the Internet. It is named after American entertainer Barbra Streisand, whose attempt in 2003 to suppress photographs of her residence in Malibu, California, inadvertently generated further publicity. Similar attempts have been made, for example, in cease-and-desist letters, to suppress numbers, files and websites. Instead of being suppressed, the information receives extensive publici...

Rusher

Will be back after my morning Full Throttle has kicked in.

Trimsty

huh

Rusher

So my brother just agreed to draw a picture of an Angel fighting a Demon that is wider and not too tall (so it will fit perfectly in my Good Versus Evil challenge).

He just graduated from Savannah College of Art and Design so his sketches are neat

Trimsty

@Rusher sweet ;D

Currently I have 4 friends who're willing to draw basically anything for me >:D

Doorknob

2:03 PM

Wow, how many doges do we have? :P

Geobits

Don't you mean "Who let the doges out?"

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Proposed Question Sandbox - Mark XIII

SurvialGame - AlienWar king-of-the-hill This game takes place in a very crowded planet where aliens are the superior race. Your task is to create your own alien and beat all other aliens. The Board It is a 2 dimensional board. The length of one side of the board is Math.ceil(sqrt(species * 10...

Chris Jester-Young

2:20 PM

@Doorknob This is the reason why my avatars are all pictures I took, so that people can't steal it. (Obviously, I can't imagine anybody who wants to use my selfie, but I have other avatars that are different.)

Doorknob

@ChrisJester-Young My profile picture is quite... distinctive. :P

Chris Jester-Young

@Doorknob Yes, it is, but do you have any recourse if somebody (e.g., Wobbuffet) took your avatar and used it? :-P

Doorknob

Yes, a flag. (Or of course changing it back, since I'm a mod :P)

(that happened once, didn't it)

Chris Jester-Young

@Doorknob Yeah, it did. :-P

raforanz

@ChrisJester-Young hi

@Doorknob hi

Chris Jester-Young

2:25 PM

@Doorknob For your reading pleasure: codegolf.stackexchange.com/users/message/3

Doorknob

Hello, @raforanz!

Heh.

raforanz

@Doorknob u know python ? :-)

@Doorknob I'm learning python and got a simple doubt

:-)

Chris Jester-Young

@raforanz This site isn't the place for your "doubt", try Stack Overflow.

Doorknob

@raforanz Um, why would you come to the Programming Puzzles & Code Golf chatroom for help with Python?

raforanz

@Doorknob hmm, wrong turn :-(

Doorknob

2:28 PM

@raforanz Sorry, this chatroom isn't about programming questions, since it's the chat for the Code Golf site. You could try the Python chatroom on Stack Overflow instead. Thanks!

Chris Jester-Young

Better yet, post a question on Stack Overflow directly so people can get rep.

raforanz

@Doorknob Thank you :-)

Doorknob

@raforanz As a side note, please don't ping random people. Just ask your question, and if there's anyone around who wants to help, they will.

Rusher

@raforanz Or ping me. I like being pinged. You can ping me all day long. I'll be the best ping you ever had.

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Rusher

3:18 PM

I've lost my mind. I just wrote else if (part == State.Warning and whole != State.Alarm)

"and" is most definitely not an operator in any language I have ever used

Trimsty

@Rusher you've never written Python?

Rusher

Oh, I guess I have. It's just been a while since I had reason to use "and" because it isn't common in golfing

Trimsty

@Rusher yup, everybody uses & or no if statement at all

Kyle Kanos

@Rusher Lua uses and

Trimsty

part|~whole==State.Warning|State.Alarm

(that definitely won't work)

Rusher

3:27 PM

@KyleKanos Oh I have used Lua! But only on a computer inside of a computer.

And the computer was shaped oddly like my avatar. Minecraft does't have flatscreens yet.

Kyle Kanos

@Rusher That's weird. I use Lua all the time here

DigitalTrauma

Woohoo my first ever python program

Turtles on Mars!

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A: Lets move the mars rover!

Python (with turtle graphics), 251 bytes Wise pythonistas, please be gentle, for this is my first ever attempt at a program written in your fine language. Turtles on Mars! from turtle import * import string s={'L':lt,'R':rt} p="NESW" mode("logo") x,y,d=raw_input().split(',') setx(int(x)) sety(...

Sorry, I don't normally self-promote my answers, but I was pretty excited to finally jump into the world of python

Rusher

I'll be honest, I've never heard of turtles in Python lol. You get an upvote just because of the title.

m.buettner

@DigitalTrauma I learned Ruby to do a PPCG challenge once

DigitalTrauma

@m.buettner Cool. Yep, sometimes I think I'm being a timewaster on PPCG, but when it inspires me to learn useful languages, I realise it is time very well spent.

m.buettner

3:37 PM

@DigitalTrauma It also teaches you loads of stuff about some of the more obscure features of a language, which can come in really handy in non-golfed code as well. Plus, problem-solving skills, problem-solving skills, problem-solving skills.

DigitalTrauma

@m.buettner Couldn't agree more!

Rusher

I've mostly learned how to brute force everything but fool anyone who reviews my code into thinking, "Wow, this is so short and concise!"

mniip

:D I'm now in top+15 on PPCG

Rusher

Must suck to be in the top negative 15.

Nooooooooo

I am chatnoob. One of these days I will learn patience, and snipe comments like a pro.

m.buettner

25th now... slowly working my way up...

Rusher

3:49 PM

Where is this list?

m.buettner

stackexchange.com/leagues/88/alltime/codegolf

I think your comment still works. mniip wrote top+15. That's definitely an integer-overflow that lands you at bottom+14, so within the worst 15 ;) (that's actually what I thought you meant, because I didn't pay attention to the edit icons)

DigitalTrauma

or codegolf.stackexchange.com/users?tab=Reputation&filter=all

m.buettner

@DigitalTrauma but you have count there :-/

like.... yourself.... manually.... in your head...

DigitalTrauma

hee hee

Trimsty

how do people even get 70 upvotes?

Rusher

3:55 PM

Wow I'm on page 4. I thought I'd be a little higher lol.

ProgramFOX

@Trimsty Mostly on very popular questions, or answers to popular questions.

They come into the Hot Questions list and get many attention on the site itself.

Kyle Kanos

I'm on page 3!

Ranked 89!

Rusher

This is why I'm asking my brother to draw me a pretty picture. I wanna make Hot Questions and people from other sites will say "Oh what a pretty picture!"

Geobits

So.... attract votes based on the pretty picture rather than the challenge? Seems.... a bit shady :p

Kyle Kanos

@Rusher I have a couple 30+ posts over on Physics based on pretty pictures

Trimsty

3:58 PM

you get a lot of upvotes on UIUX for nice pics

Kyle Kanos

here and here

Trimsty

and also Game Devs

and probably also cooking

Geobits

Kinda like posting xkcd on meta.so. It's gonna get votes, even if it's not very relevant .

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Trimsty

@Geobits just saying "xkcd" gets you starred ;3

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SEE?!

Geobits

Nice

Trimsty

4:02 PM

;u;

mniip

xkcd

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Geobits

Should we just fill the sidebar with starred xkcd comments?

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mniip

yes!

Trimsty

@mniip Hm. I'll have to let the theorists get back to us on that one

@Geobits we can do anything we want, right? o:

mniip

everyone just say 'xkcd' and then we star each one :D

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Geobits

4:04 PM

Spoilsport mods will probably clear them, but why not give it a shot? :D

ProgramFOX

x̷̧̦͖̖̟͊ͬ̓̔̄͒͐ͧ̏͛͌ͣ̓̏̃̓͝͠ḱ̨̛̲͖͙̥͓͎̤̼̼̩͇͓̣̟̗̗ͯ̈́̅̇ͫͩ̇ͦ̓̾̂ͦͦ̌͟͝c̡̛̻̹̬̻̞̅͂̌͗͋͒ͫ̾͝͞ͅ‌̣͓̖͉͍͓d̢̨̹̥̩͓̫̜̋ͪ͑ͭ̈͊́ͣͨ͊̓̋́

7

Trimsty

@mniip @Geobits cha click

one more xkcd post...

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mniip

@Geobits You think someone would do that? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Trimsty

We did it! ;D

Geobits

@Trimsty I still need 3 more xkcd comments to fill mine. You haz tiny monitor?

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Trimsty

4:06 PM

@Geobits i guess. Oh well, xkcd

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mniip

I guess everyone here has 1366x768

Trimsty

yeah

i have a big screen next to me

but that's for the pc

Kyle Kanos

Mine's bigger than 1366x768

I have 2 more slots to fill

But I'm also dual monitoring it

Geobits

@KyleKanos Two more slots to fill with what exactly? (say it!)

Kyle Kanos

With xkcd, of course

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Trimsty

4:08 PM

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Kyle Kanos

As a parent, today's xkcd comic is pretty funny:

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^ That's awesome

[/xkcd]

Did you know that the base-36 number xkcd is a product of two prime numbers?

Kyle Kanos

4:17 PM

@ProgramFOX No, I did not know that. But I did just check it too

It makes 4 prime factors in base-34 (all distinct) and 8 prime factors in base-35 (3 distinct)

mniip

◑,◑

Trimsty

interesting number then

some dude on /r/minimalism redesigned windows

Kyle Kanos

@Trimsty: Is it an actual usable environment, or is it just images

Trimsty

@KyleKanos just pics unfortunately

Kyle Kanos

That's sad

Trimsty

4:25 PM

theverge.com/2012/2/24/2822891/windows-desktop-ui-concept

Kyle Kanos

I'd have liked to see someone port it to Gnome, if it were real

Trimsty

(is lxde fan)

@KyleKanos sounds like a nice project ;3

Kyle Kanos

I'm not talented enough to do stuff like that :/

Trimsty

i hang around on uiux.se a lot

just lurking teaches you a lot ;3

Kyle Kanos

I can imagine.

But I'm not very graphically-inclined

Probably why I'm a Computational Astrophysicist

Trimsty

4:29 PM

What I don't like about that design is the scroll bar, it looks to small to grab

@KyleKanos It's really hard to choose which one of those jobs is more important

mniip

How do you post images again

Trimsty

just the url

ProgramFOX

@mniip Just post a link, it will automatically onebox.

mniip

Trimsty

xD

it doesn't have xkcd in the url and I starred it

i'm such a monster

@KyleKanos Now I'm thinking about that...

Kyle Kanos

4:33 PM

About being one?

Trimsty

@KyleKanos yes, and also writing the gui for gnome. :P

But why even bother with gnome? Let's fork FreeBSD and strip it down to just the bare basics, golf it, and write the gui ourselves

Kyle Kanos

You've got some time before University, right?

Like 4 years?

Trimsty

@KyleKanos I start with IGCSE next year 2nd quarter

i have some time ;3

mniip

@Trimsty here you go

i.imgur.com/0nc2Txy.pngxkcd

Trimsty

i can't unstar the other one. :c

oh well

have 2 stars :P

Kyle Kanos

4:36 PM

@Trimsty Sounds like ArchBSD

mniip

@Trimsty ★-★

Trimsty

@KyleKanos The universe

it's

downloads archbsd

m.buettner

100

2

^ what does it look like if someone stars this? (please? :))

MUAHAHAHA

Trimsty

now you have to edit it to say "10 xkcd"

c'mon

ProgramFOX

Infinity

Trimsty

4:41 PM

add xkcd ;n;

m.buettner

(edited to three digits, so more than one star just looks like having spaces as a thousand separator)

@ProgramFOX you wish...

Trimsty

so many stars! o:

Rusher

Oh dear. I left you guys alone for ten minutes and all XKCD broke loose?

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Trimsty

we agreed to star all xkcd posts fsr

@KyleKanos I'm seriously interested in this now

Rusher

Oh is that right? Every single XKCD post?

m.buettner

4:44 PM

(he's going to edit it out)

Rusher

That wouldn't work because he could remove the star after I lose edit privileges. (XKCD)

Kyle Kanos

@Trimsty I was interested when it first came out but then I couldn't get a GUI so I stopped caring

m.buettner

maybe he wouldn't notice in time

Kyle Kanos

Eventually I'd like to take a look at it

Trimsty

@KyleKanos let's build a kernel in Fortran and Rust, make a nice POSIX shell for it and throw it off a tall building

Rusher

4:46 PM

If there is a badge for stars, I'm going to get it. (XKCD)

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Trimsty

Also, anybody here heard of Felix?

Kyle Kanos

@Rusher There's a badge for chat

Trimsty

github.com/felix-lang/felix

Kyle Kanos

@Trimsty Rather bold statement, t generates highly optimised machine binaries which outperform all interpreters, bytecode compilers, virtual machines, and most compiled languages including C.

Trimsty

@KyleKanos Yup, though, after a bit of testing, can confirm

it works like V8 does

I was thinking that it should replace Javascript

gets trampled by people complaining about Dart

Kyle Kanos

4:49 PM

V8?

Trimsty

google.co.za/…

eurgh.

i hate google.

V8 (JavaScript engine)

The V8 JavaScript Engine is an open source JavaScript engine developed by Google for the Google Chrome web browser. It has since seen use in many other projects. , the head programmer is Lars Bak. The first version of the V8 engine was released at the same time as the first version of Chrome, September 2, 2008. V8 compiles JavaScript to native machine code (IA-32, x86-64, ARM, or MIPS ISAs) before executing it, instead of more traditional techniques such as interpreting bytecode or compiling the whole program to machine code and executing it from a filesystem. The compiled code is additi...

(interestingly enough, they released it under the BSD license.)

github.com/felix-lang/felix/issues/58

dinner, be back soon ;3

m.buettner

5:04 PM

I never understood emoticons where the mouth is 3. Like, how do you even do that?

Trimsty

5:24 PM

@m.buettner :3 is a cat face, o3o is, well, what it looks like :P

eats pepper cream sauce out of bowl with knife

Trimsty

5:37 PM

i'm just ripping apart freebsd now

m.buettner

6:26 PM

weekend!

Trimsty

oh hi @Doorknob

;3

m.buettner

6:39 PM

@ChrisJester-Young can we please keep the programming-puzzle tag on the recent for-loop challenge? as per this answer and comments? meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/1627/8478

Doorknob

@Trimsty Hello!

Rusher

7:37 PM

@m.buettner Here's the urban dictionary entry for cat face. I never understand why people use blowjob face. Urban dictionary says that :O indicates surprise or that one has a... well... nevermind. Does anyone actually make a giant O with their mouth when they are surprised?

m.buettner

@Rusher comic/cartoon/manga/anime characters do

I like no. 4 on the cat face one

Rusher

Lol

New Meta Posts

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Q: Tips on my new golfing language, One Character Python

One Character Python (OCP) If this post would be better suited for the main site, I will move it there, please let me know. I'm really not sure where it belongs. Hi, code golfers. I've decided to make a new programming language for the purpose of golfing. I haven't finished implementing it yet,...

discussion

Geobits

It's number one for <3

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Rusher

The Internet is a terrifying place...

Geobits

7:45 PM

Noooo..... it's a welcoming, wholesome place where you can extend your knowledge and let your imagination roam free. With cats.

m.buettner

You just need to stay away from the shadowy places over there.

Geobits

Everything the light touches....

Rusher

@m.buettner So I should join 4chan?

m.buettner

I feel like 4chan is somewhere in the shadow of the shadowy places.

Geobits

Not just the elephant graveyard, but inside a skull.

Rusher

7:52 PM

Wouldn't the shadow of a shadow be the light?

Quincunx

This post has an open/reopen war, and now it has 3 reopen votes and 3 delete votes...

m.buettner

@Rusher I don't even what to respond to this other than "no."

@Quincunx How can it have 3 delete votes and not be deleted?

Rusher

I believe it has something to do with the number of answers and reopen votes. But I don't know

Geobits

Delete votes are weird like that. I believe it needed 6 more last I checked.

Quincunx

@m.buettner Because of the number of answers

Geobits

7:54 PM

(of course the tooltip says 1) ><

Chris Jester-Young

@Rusher :-O is a gaping face.

Quincunx

@Geobits It tells me it needs 1 more. Probably the same old bug.

Chris Jester-Young

Not an O face.

Rusher

But @Quincrux, did you bring it up because you want to resolve it once and for all in the chat?

Quincunx

@Rusher Sure I did. But only once: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/6671/…

Geobits

7:54 PM

@Quincunx Yea, if you click it the dialog comes up and says 6

Quincunx

@Geobits Isn't that the number of delete votes you have left? I get 3.

Chris Jester-Young

@m.buettner Do you have enough rep to add the tag back yourself? If so, just do that.

You certainly do not need my blessing or anything.

Quincunx

@Rusher I was pointing out that the community disagrees. Either we should delete it, let it reopen, or the war will go on forever.

m.buettner

@ChrisJester-Young I asserted that you had a good reason for removing it, so I wanted to give you a chance to discuss that rather than starting a comment-less edit war on the question.

Geobits

@Quincunx Yes, it turns out I found something to be completely wrong about :)

Chris Jester-Young

7:57 PM

@m.buettner Personally I find [programming-puzzle] a bit nondescript, but if you think it has a purpose, please use it by all means.

m.buettner

@ChrisJester-Young I agree that it's a bit hard to nail down, but the question is in the spirit of other challenges with that tag. Basically "make a construct of your language do something you wouldn't normally expect it to" or similar.

Rusher

@Quincunx That's not true. I'm not allowed to close vote twice even if it does reopen.

Chris Jester-Young

@m.buettner Fair enough.

Quincunx

@Rusher I never claimed you could. I know this.

Rusher

Then you are claiming that one side of the other is "right", and we should work together to figure out which side that is?

Quincunx

8:01 PM

I'm claiming that we should do something about it. I personally would like to delete it.

Rusher

The close vote reasons are all subjective. End of story. Let people vote and let it toggle.

Geobits

Why not just lock it? Not open (which I agree with, my close vote is displayed there), but not deleted. Can't be reopened by non-mod, no more open/close struggle.

Quincunx

And that's the other possibility. But what are the guidelines for applying locks?

Rusher

Wait, certain members of the community voted for reopen. Respect their votes and don't lock the question.

Geobits

Good point. I'm not sure if it has "historical significance."

@Rusher If it gets deleted instead, their votes also get disregarded.

Rusher

8:04 PM

If it gets deleted then it got deleted because people voted it that way.

It's one thing to lose a vote. It's entirely different to get locked by a moderator.

Quincunx

@Rusher Respect the reopeners, but not the closers? Just look at the revision history:

Chris Jester-Young

So basically, I won't touch that question with a 10-foot pole.

Rusher

When did I say the closers should be disregarded?

Every vote should be respected.

Don't mess with it, don't come here and ask for the community to take a side, don't call for a moderator to step in (unless someone is manipulating the vote). Leave it alone.

Quincunx

@ChrisJester-Young So you recommend ignoring it?

Chris Jester-Young

@Quincunx No, I'm not recommending any such thing. I'm leaving it alone because mod votes are binding.

m.buettner

8:07 PM

@Rusher this

Quincunx

@m.buettner Okay.

Geobits

Personally, I wish they'd implement this suggestion.

m.buettner

The only thing that should be discussed here might be "Why is the community so split about this, is that a problem, and if so how do we take an official stance (on questions like that?"

Quincunx

@Geobits The question it discusses has an interesting revision history...

Geobits

Yea, I wasn't concerned with the actual question they're talking about, but the solution seems interesting. Atwood comments that it's toxic, but I think a slight tweak would even that out.

Rusher

8:11 PM

Speaking of manipulating votes, did anyone get an eerie feeling that trolls were collaborating in their secret troll corner and messing with the votes on code-trolling questions back when that was a huge topic?

m.buettner

@Geobits I'm not even sure that would happen. I think if more than 5 people could cast a close vote, then I assume there would be more people agreeing on a question having to be closed than people pity-voting to leave them open.

Rusher

I have a friend who sits on 4chan all day and participates in group harassment of juggalos and whatever group 4chan has decided to make fun of that day. I feel like an attempt to squash code-trolling would really serve as a call to arms for people like my friend.

Geobits

I agree. I mean it could be tweaked if it turned out to be a problem. It could, though. I've seen plenty of people explicitly upvote for this very reason, with a comment like "+1 to counter the driveby downvote".

m.buettner

@Rusher No, no collaboration. There were just a bunch of users with sufficient privileges and very strong opinions on code-trolling who would just systematically up/down/close/reopen/delete-vote any code-trolling question that came along, just going by their own opinion, before a consensus was found.

"driveby downvote"... I like that :D

Rusher

But DD is already taken (demolition derby)

Geobits

8:15 PM

Double D is also taken.

Rusher

or dunkin donuts

Chris Jester-Young

DBD. ;-)

or DBDV.

Geobits

Or DrByDoVo to make it really obnoxious.

m.buettner

yeah some people really are doctors by downvote

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Geobits

Pronounced doctor bye-dough-voe

Chris Jester-Young

8:18 PM

Dr Bydovo.

Geobits

Or extend it into another phrase: Don't buy Debbie vodka.

m.buettner

8:56 PM

Anyone good with Ruby here?

I think I've got the basic controller in place (it needs some refactoring though).

Does anyone know the best way to set a timeout when waiting for another process (in the form of an IO object) to write something to STDOUT?

Rusher

@m.buettner I'm going to guess that asking for input doesn't work like it works in most other languages? In Java you just do something like stdin.getNext(); and the program just chills while waiting for input.

m.buettner

@Rusher yeah basically I'm doing that. But I don't want to chill.

At least not forever.

Geobits

@m.buettner I don't know that it's the best way, but I set a loop (with some ms sleep) to check if there was anything on stdout. Check the time in the loop. Once there was something there, grab it all.

Quincunx

I tend to see things differently than other people. For example, I always thought this was a sideways flying nun:

m.buettner

@Geobits Hm, I'm gonna have to look into some non-blocking I/O there.

Rusher

8:59 PM

I guess spawning a thread and asking it to chill is out of the question or above what I call the "what I feel like learning right now curve" for Ruby?

Geobits

I don't know if you have anything like available(), which non-blockingly just checks if something is there.

Quincunx

It was only this year that I realized that was supposed to be an eagle, not a nun.

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