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12:11 AM
good evening!
 
It is, I hope.
And to you too!
Signed yet>?
 
hehe still need to fill up that form they sent me. no rush, I got the bigger end this time ;)
I'll fill it up tonight though. Can't wait to see how much of a no-brainer they really intend to make it.
just stumbled on a question that I have to answer.. asked 5 days ago, 2nd answer posted 1 hour ago, and I have something to add! ;)
 
Yeah, I just answered one (first one in a while).
 
12:28 AM
So, at work, literally no one ever looks at any of my code for any reason whatsoever. Is this typical for someone who is working their first job as a programmer?
 
@nhgrif That seems very odd.
 
I mean, I'm working on my entirely own project, and no one knows any Objective-C at all besides me. But the lead programmer knows several languages and has a very good understanding of C. As well as a good understand of OOP.
 
Though come to think of it, nobody looked at my code on my first programming job either, but I was also the project manager of a one person project, so there wasn't anyone TO look at my code.
@nhgrif Well, have you actually delivered a working product yet?
 
Two.
We have two iOS apps that work with the desktop software that the other 3 programmers work on.
And I've written every line of code of both of those at this point.
 
Well, there you go. If it's delivered and it works, that's the one thing that really matters.
 
12:34 AM
When I started, they had a flailing first attempt at the first app, and my first task was to get it working.
Then last week and the week before I rewrote it completely, so now that app is entirely my code.
And the other app has been mine from the very beginning, though I'm in the middle of having to rewrite that one now.
 
I'm not sure if we have any iOS apps. Wouldn't surprise me if we did. Writing software is one of our main activities.
 
But both of them were rewritten based on me telling my bosses that it needed to be rewritten, and after a pretty short discussion, they agreed.
 
If you keep delivering working products, managers are going to give you a fair amount of leeway.
 
There are 4 total programmers.
 
We have about 150.
 
12:39 AM
I suspect the lead programmer thinks I'm the only other one that actually knows what he's doing...
 
Is Captain Obvious a bot?
@nhgrif What kind of company?
 
We write ERP software for manufacturing companies.
 
That's cool. What do the iOS apps do?
 
One of them is for creating and browse attachments
So, you can take a picture of an employee, or a part, or whatever, and put it on the server in your system
Or go look at the pdf instructions for an assembly
The other is a work in progress that is going to implement a lot of features of the full desktop software.
Right now, the main goal is basically to get everything in the app that an inventory control manager would need to do his entire job
So far, you can clock in/clock out
View assembly steps/instructions
You can pull inventory from the shelf and set it aside for a job (and mark it as such in the database)
And shop floor supervisors can view pretty much all the information they want about what's going on on their shopfloor
Including what jobs their subordinates are clocked into, etc
 
I'm guessing that the regular app is a web app of some sort?
 
12:50 AM
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Q: A better way to read text files into html?

Lemony-AndrewCurrently I'm making a website that has a to-do list that will probably become quite long to write in html. So I decided to make a shorter version for me to write that I find more comfortable to read. What I am currently doing is using ajax to read the text file from the server. Once the file ha...

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Q: Math Equation as String to Reverse Polish Notation Parser

JRLambertWhat I have done is create a console program where users type in a math equation such as 5+4-6 or (5+16(8-4))/16 that follows order of operations. The equation is sent to a char array that is then parsed. If a # or . is encountered, the char is placed into a buffer. The buffer is tokenized into a...

 
No. And what do you mean, "regular app"?
 
I'm writing code by myself as well. It makes me rethink most things I do, just because there isn't anyone else to look at it to review it. I'm also a mechanical engineer (not a developer) so that makes me question myself all the time.
 
Sorry, you did say it was desktop software.
I am also a solo developer.
 
Oh, the desktop software is not a web app either.
It's full fledged desktop software with SQL Server backend
 
@grovesNL Some of the worst code I have ever seen was written by engineers, many of whom seem to be under the impression that they are better than any programmer and are therefor much more qualified to write software.
 
12:57 AM
@Donald.McLean I don't doubt that. I didn't try to put myself in this position but thankfully I do have several years of self-teaching. I'm definitely searching for somebody more knowledgeable about software development to hire.
 
@nhgrif Sorry, but that seems like an odd way to do it. A web app would make more sense these days, since it could be accessed from just about anywhere.
But, if it works for your customers, who am I to argue?
 
Why would a manufacturing company want all of their documents and all of their information available online to anyone with the right password?
This is stuff only available on local networks.
 
@nhgrif My app is only accessible on the local network.
 
Why would we make a web app then?
I don't understand what the advantage of a web app would be if you want to only allow it on the local server.
+ VPN
 
1:14 AM
@nhgrif easier deployment
 
Easier on who?
 
you update the web server, you're done.
a Windows app has to be deployed on all servers.
 
Right, but that's one more thing we have to maintain on the server.
And that's one server per customer.
 
VM?
 
No, most of the networks are locked down to allow no outside access at all.
So it'd have to be on their local servers on their network.
 
1:16 AM
@nhgrif what does "maintain" entail?
 
Every time we make a change to the app, that's one more thing we have to make sure we're updating when we're updating servers with the .dlls for the desktop software and the SQL scripts, etc.
Meanwhile, iOS devices can be set up to allow apps to update, but not be installed, and they can be set up to automatically update.
I send an update to Apple, and when they approve it, every device for every single one of our customers is update automatically without anyone having to do anything
 
yeah, I guess I'm not familiar enough with the Apple way ;)
 
There are also lots of good MDM systems out there for companies that don't want automatic updates, or don't want the device to have ANY internet access.
The update can be downloaded to their local server by a network admin and pushed from the server to the devices.
 
Has anyone else ever customized SSIS? I'm literally going through setting a color scheme by copying my Visual Studio color settings in manually (typing each RGB value)
 
I fiddled with SSIS 2008 a while back
but never played with the color scheme :(
 
1:23 AM
Oh also, I forgot to mention.. we're doing a lot of barcode scanning in the app... not sure how easy that is with a web app.
 
I'm working entirely inside a script task, for a long time. This whole setup is terrible
 
are there parts of the script doing things that could be done with the standard SSIS workflow/controlflow items?
 
I wish. It's connecting to a web service, manipulating data, pushing it to the server. Or the reverse
 
and it depends on the data you're working on, right?
IIRC a script task takes a record for input
lots of rows going through that script?
 
Nah the script task is updating multiple entire tables
And the remote data sits on a web service that needs to be accessed through a web reference in the script task
 
1:30 AM
are you sure it's not doing that for as many times as there are records in the pipeline?
 
Anything that I should be catching up on?
 
(sorry if it's a dumb question)
@rolfl SSIS
 
MSCRAP
 
(I knew it)
 
It's not a dumb question at all. Basically there doesn't need to be a pipeline, it's just convenient for my client to set it up in SSIS so here I am
I could equivalently just distribute an executable to the client and have them run that through SSIS instead
 
1:32 AM
Wait I'm mixing up script component and script task
 
I don't really know, I'm still new to SSIS. A script task contains an empty Main entry point that you can write whatever you want, basically.
 
what version of C# can you use?
 
I'm using 3.5. I think this is SSIS 2008
 
So, there's now Captain Obvious delivering post.... but, why is he called Captain in the transcript? chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/15252030#15252030
......
 
it's truncated because Captain Obvious is obviously too long ;)
 
1:37 AM
Oh, hello people. :D
 
Hey hichris.
grats on the diamond ;-)
 
I'm bored... so dropping into random chatrooms that I like. :P
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hi!
 
@rolfl Thanks!
rofl
I check meta, and the first thing I see is:
> Hi! What brings you here today?
 
I think the mods from the beta sites should form a club.... share beta-site specific tricks.
Actually, the first trick for beta site mods, is to not do anything as 'mod only things'
everything has to be transparent
 
1:39 AM
Yeah, pretty much.
Except for suspension & deleting spam. :P
 
partly.
 
that's still transparently done.. partly.
 
My experience on here shows that many times I'm the last one to know ;-)
By the time one 'regular' has seen anything, the spotlight has been focused on it, and a few flags raised....
 
Huh, random thought: I see the blog idea is progressing well. Would a SQL injection topic be okay?
 
Only if it is not ... ;-)
 
hmmm.... interesting SEDE for that....
hichris123 ... all indications are that CR is more established, in pretty much every way, than almost half the promoted sites.
 
So here's my question for you: timeframe on the blog?
6-8 weeks.
 
:D
 
@rolfl Yeah, pretty much. You and PP&CG.
 
in Stack Exchange Community Blogs, Apr 14 at 4:35, by Grace Note
@jmort253 Mmkay. There's a bit of a hold on further blog creation for a bit while we fiddle with a few things, but I'll get to looking into it.
 
1:45 AM
let's get the Post One meta-contest going then!
 
Yes, lets ;-)
 
1:59 AM
OMG my draft is turning into a tell, don't ask answer!
 
0
Q: Haskell#concat Implementation

Kevin MeredithHere's how I implemented concat - flattens a list of lists into just a list of elements. concat' :: [[a]] -> [a] concat' ys = foldl (\acc x -> acc ++ x) [] ys Is it a problem that I'm using the ++ function? What's a better way to write this?

 
@CaptainObvious that's suspiciously short, but I can't tell my ass from my elbow in haskell, so I'll skip.
 
That honestly looks like it's straight out of a code golf
 
@hichris123 - I have been assembling a collection of SEDE queries, and they are fun to watch.
If/when you want to go through some of them, feel free to forage/ask.
 
Ooh, okay.
So many chat rooms! :(
 
2:05 AM
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Q: How to multiply two selected values in list boxes in vb.net

kevinI am a student taking an introductory logic based coding class and have no idea what I am doing. I need to have 2 list boxes with values 0-10, in which a user selects one value from each box and then the product of the two selected values shows up in a textbox. Any help would be appreciated.

 
@hichris123 you may find this the most entertaining to start with:
 
@CaptainObvious OT/no code
 
@Mat'sMug- you see I posted a "do it a different way" answer?
 
@rolfl Woah!
 
And.... 200 has just gone and done a double-take on it.
Yeah, with a little bit of effort you can get some pretty things out of SEDE.
 
2:12 AM
nevermind
I think I might come off a bit rude on that one...
> What you have here isn't Poor Man's DI. It's not DI.
> You depend on two classes that each have their own dependencies, that you're able to provide via an IoC container: there's no reason to new them up yourself, unless there's lack of context in your post or, more likely, unless there's something I missed.
 
TTGTB ... don't set traps now....
(does not look too bad).
 
yeah fixed it after 3rd read :/
'night @rolfl!
 
Night.
 
@hichris123 would you say 2014 should see CR's graduation?
 
wat???
(not you, chat)
I got that ping...
hold on a sec.
 
2:22 AM
lol sorry
 
^ That.
... where's your message?
 
2 mins ago, by Mat's Mug
@hichris123 would you say 2014 should see CR's graduation?
 
oh
thanks @grovesNL!
 
... chat is weird.
refreshes page
 
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Q: Implementing `and` and `or`

Kevin MeredithI implemented and and or: -- or is like and, only it returns True if -- any of the boolean values in a list is True. or' :: [Bool] -> Bool or' [] = False or' (x:xs) = x || or' xs --and takes a list of boolean values and returns True only if -- all the values in the list are True. and' ::...

 
2:25 AM
@Mat'sMug Hopefully. Will you guys? I dunno. Graduation is like this arbitrary thing, you never know when it'll happen. Really, it's just the point where something "tips".
> What we generally see with Stack Exchange sites is nice, steady traffic going kind of horizontally for a while; then, at some unpredictable point, we hit critical mass and POW all the indicators start climbing inexorably. This is the right point for a site to come out of public beta. source
4
 
granted, that's not visits.
but 200 days ago we had < 8K visits /day. Now it's steadily > 20K
 
... that's a good thing. :P
 
I think the Community Ads will somewhat help
Score: 18
Created: Apr 28 at 2:03
Clicks per day: 28 (84 total)
the one on Programmers.SE isn't doing half of that
Score: 12
Created: Apr 28 at 2:09
Clicks per day: 2.33 (7 total)
and yet part of me thinks posting on Stack Overflow "Open Source Advertising" is a little bit, uh, pushing it
 
2:44 AM
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Q: Right use of delegate pattern

daniel spI would much appreciate your advice on this design I am going to implement. I am relatively new to object programming and I am not so sure about the delegate pattern. I need to provide the implementation of a class that implements several interfaces of different nature. As the class would be hug...

 
There's an ObjC question on SO where the guy is too lazy to call uppercaseString method on his strings, so he wants to overwrite all of the init methods of NSString to automatically make all strings uppercase...
In storage, that is..
Can someone here move questions from SO to CR?
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Q: How to optimize this loop by using dynamic programming

Code CrusaderI'm trying to solve a practice problem and all is well except for the last 2 inputs my solution is too slow. Just one loop is slowing it down I think. Problem: http://i.imgur.com/y3DHwMR.png Full Solution: http://pastebin.com/YWSYQCY0 Input: http://pastebin.com/g1LmShV2 (g_input.txt) Output: ...

 
is there enough code embedded for reviewing?
I flagged it for migration, linking to this:
2 mins ago, by nhgrif
Can someone here move questions from SO to CR?
This question has received interest on Code Review. Migrate? chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/15270147#15270147 – retailcoder 1 min ago
 
It looks like if the stuff in the links were actually included in the question instead of just links, it'd make a decent question.
 
creepy?
 
Or is that your name at SO?
 
2:58 AM
yup. busted! :)
I stopped posting answers on SO when I posted my 100th answer there
 
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Q: How to optimize this loop by using dynamic programming

Code CrusaderI'm trying to solve a practice problem and all is well except for the last 2 inputs my solution is too slow. Just one loop is slowing it down I think. Problem: http://i.imgur.com/y3DHwMR.png Full Solution: http://pastebin.com/YWSYQCY0 Input: http://pastebin.com/g1LmShV2 (g_input.txt) Output: ...

Now the OP should embed all that code.
 
3:13 AM
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Q: Optimizing "Herd Sums" problem using dynamic programming

Code CrusaderI'm trying to solve a practice problem and all is well except for the last 2 inputs my solution is too slow. Just one loop is slowing it down I think. Problem: Full Solution: import java.io.BufferedReader; import java.io.FileReader; import java.io.IOException; import java.util.ArrayList; imp...

 
@CaptainObvious If you move the variable initialization out of the for and while loops, does this save you execution time in Java?
 
I just posted what's probably a really terribly worded and poorly explained improvement to his algorithm, which I think will make a bigger difference than any Java specific optimizations.
He's checking every number, and in reality, you need to check less than half.
Given the original value 100,000, I can tell you that no number less than 100,000 or greater than 499,999 can be paired with any consecutive number and sum to anything less than or equal to 100,000
 
You've earned the badge. See your profile.
@nhgrif makes sense
 
Yeah that's true
 
"How much math do you need to know to code?" Not much--but the more you know the better.
 
3:28 AM
I don't know what happened in December, but site growth seems to have plateaued for a while.
 
He could have phrased it slightly differently and posted it as a challenge in PCG
 
@nhgrif You rarely benefit from knowing a lot of math. Your solution doesn't call for anything more advanced than my 12 year-old son has already learned.
It's all about applying math, not really knowing a lot. Well, not all, but a lot more often than not.
 
@200_success there's the Holidays activity dip, then growth till Feb... and since then yeah pretty much flat / slower ascending
 
I should have said, something good happened in January, and it would be nice to figure out what.
 
@200_success 2014 occurred
 
3:33 AM
Winter Bash ended?
 
Knowing abstract algebra has been of precisely 0 use in programming, other than writing a permutation simplifier
 
By that logic, it should still be occurring.
 
Students back in school with homework assignments.
 
Time to plot questions by week.
 
@200_success it's just the Holidays, the lowest data points are the weeks ending 2013-12-28 and 2014-01-04.
 
3:38 AM
Going back 90 weeks, there was no similar pattern last year.
 
^^ Holiday 2013-2014 @StackOverflow...
 
Exactly what I'm looking at too.
 
wow.
 
But SO has no January surge.
 
so, I think more migrating appropriate questions from SO might be good.
 
3:40 AM
surge? like a brutal increase?
 
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Q: Optimizing "Herd Sums" problem using dynamic programming

Code CrusaderI'm trying to solve a practice problem and all is well except for the last 2 inputs my solution is too slow. Just one loop is slowing it down I think. Problem: Full Solution: import java.io.BufferedReader; import java.io.FileReader; import java.io.IOException; import java.util.ArrayList; imp...

This questions had negative score on SO, and +3 here.
 
I feel like the surge has more to do with the user types that post at each
 
we were already in the middle of an ascension
 
I would expect to see more consistent traffic at SO and less of a surge
 
if you remove the Holiday data points, you get a pretty straight line...
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Q: Could Jar Jar Binks live long enough to appear in the next Star Wars trilogy?

David WilkinsWhat is the lifespan of a Gungan, how old was Jar Jar in the Episode I–III trilogy, and when does the VII–IX trilogy take place in reference to the I–III trilogy?

answer: no. phew!
time to sleep - good night!
 
3:53 AM
... and Data Explorer is down.
 
4:19 AM
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Q: Trim string of words based on character count

Mike GraceI needed a simple way to trim a string of words based on a max character count. I also needed to cut in-between words. Using wordpress here is what I came up with but I feel like it could be more efficient. function count_words($content) { $partsArray = explode(' ', $content); return si...

 
Is @CaptainObvious a bot?
 
I think it's @StackExchange, renamed
 
4:39 AM
Ah, ok. Makes sense. I just realized a second ago that all I ever see it type is questions.
And the name Captain Obvious would be pretty fitting for @StackExchange
 
Off-topic incoming...
 
should rename it @SlowCaptainObvious
ah, time is running out, and the hacks start...
oh well, TTGTL
 
4:56 AM
@Yuushi Later.
 
5:29 AM
Go not having function overloading is starting to make me want to punch things
 
@Yuushi Better to just use something else.
 
@JerryCoffin It's for work, so I don't have a choice
 
@Yuushi That does make things a little tougher.
 
indeed
is it just me or does it feel like there's a lot less questions lately
or are they all in things I don't look at like PHP/Javascript/C#
 
5:48 AM
@Yuushi With a question rate of almost 30, it isn't like that's even an issue.
 
not an issue so much as I just haven't had much catch my eye in terms of "I should answer this"
 
6:06 AM
I'm still looking for two more C++11 questions to answer. That's all I need left for a tag badge.
 
6:44 AM
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Q: How can help me in MARIE Assembly program?

user41638i do have couble final tests, and this lab worth 20 cridet! is some one can do it for me, i will be thankfull, or if need payment not more 20$ please email me Gaos2001 gmail. you will use MARIE's ISA to program The location of the stack is Between locations 600 and 700. first subroutine: • Pu...

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Q: Plist as Custom Class Model w/ AutoSynced Properties

LoganSome jobs are too small for CoreData, and too large for NSUserDefaults, or you just want to store some info in a Plist. I have created a custom class that does a model of the plist and sets all the properties of the model automatically. Case 1 - Info.plist In general, this class is meant to...

 
@CaptainObvious I have to say, I've seen a lot of "plis do homewurk for me" questions on SE, but that's the first where I've seen a blatant, immediate effort of payment. Terrible pay at that.
 
I'll delete it soon.
And $20? For assembly? Come on.
 
7:00 AM
I know, right? Better only take 10 minutes.
 
On that note, I guess I'm off to bed. Later, all.
 
Later!
 
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Q: advantage of using __call method

samithaI have wrote simple class that allowing database selection and inserts.Could you please tell me does this a right way to use __call method with any useful advantage of it ? <?php class _getDatabase { public $db; public function __construct(PDO $connection) { $this->db = $con...

 
7:20 AM
Hey everyone. Hey @Jamal :)
 
@kleinfreund Hey! :-) Long time no see.
 
Yes, but now I'm probably a more usual sight here again. :p
 
Monking .... ;-)
 
Heya
 
Son's nose bleed.... done.
done now.... so... checking CR
 
7:30 AM
@rolfl: If you want to make $20 (and know assembly), you could respond to this question. ;-)
 
I do need $20....
But you have already responded appropriately. Reverse spam?
OK... trying to get back to sleep
 
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Q: Addition plus division taking up all my CPU - Kinect depth denoising

Maxim GershkovichI have a method in my class that eats up something like 80% of my processor time while its running. In-fact one line within the method is responsible for the majority of this. The idea behind this class is to stabilize the depth readings being returned by the Microsoft Kinect device by obtaining...

 
8:08 AM
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Q: ASP.NET C# Application

michael24BIn next month I am going to finish my webapp project for big store company. Store has a few thousands of registry costumers so it's a quite large database. App main purpose is to search after customers with five filters and shows their contacts such as adress, phonenumber, date of last purchase ...

 
Morning everyone :)
 
8:29 AM
heya @Morwenn
 
What's up?
Incoming off-topic question.
 
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Q: Hello can U help me?

user3592006Can you help me please with this exercise THANKS Write in C the programm and algorithm for finding the minimum (min) between elements in a stack. Build in C language two methods that calculate the minimum of a stack: a)Stack implemented with linked list (one way linked list) b)Stack Implement...

 
And of course... He somehow came from SO
This question appears to be off-topic because it is about reviewing code. Try codereview.stackexchange.comJongware 14 mins ago
I think we need to take the bear traps previously used for new members and use them for SO members who erroneously redirect people and their crap to CR.
 
Totally right.
 
What's great is that he voted to close the question with the reason "Other: belongs on codereview.stackexchange.com" and someone else voted that reason too. So now there's two people who think that's on topic for CR. Great.
 
8:39 AM
Is that one on-topic?
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Q: ASP.NET C# Application

michael24BIn next month I am going to finish my webapp project for big store company. Store has a few thousands of registry costumers so it's a quite large database. App main purpose is to search after customers with five filters and shows their contacts such as adress, phonenumber, date of last purchase ...

@Corbin I hate "close vote followers".
 
It happens depressingly often on SO. The worst are the close as duplicate bandwagon votes that close something as a duplicate of a post that has like 1 word the same in the title but is otherwise completely unrelated.
 
Sometimes, one guy thinks that your question is off-topic for some reason, they 4 guys follow thinking "they voted, so they must be right".
 
Yeah
I think the problem is that voting makes people feel like they contributed and made a positive impact. When there's no votes yet, you have to actually pay for that contribution with thought and time. If you just pile on someone else's vote, you get the "well I did something nice today!" feeling without having to do anything. :/
 
I've got one question closed on Programmers.SE because "it's not clear what I am asking". I don't want to sound offensive, but if they really do not find it clear, they have some problem with their head -____-
 
Haha. That's another great SE phenomenon. "I don't understand it, so it must be unclear."
People forget there's a second option..... lol
 
8:42 AM
The worse part is that I already had upvotes and three meaningful answers that showed that the answerers did understand the question.
 
hrm, yes, that question is really off-topic (the C one)
sigh, hackity heuristics is the best I can do for this problem :(
 
Monking
 
Monking
I'll take my leave quite soon though..
 
I'll need to take a look at what rolfl sent me for debugging some JDOM/SAXParser issue
Ah I'm with luck, he did give source code, I didn't see that yesterday evening while checking from phone ;)
@rolfl:
Load URL github.com/hunterhacker/jdom/raw/master/contrib/src/resources/… in 1815,928ms
Bytes loeded: 279695
Get SaxBuilder in 20,115ms
Parse XML in 81,475ms
Parsed [Document:  No DOCTYPE declaration, Root is [Element: <PLAY/>]]
XPath expression [XPathExpression: 1 namespaces and 0 variables for query //SPEAKER[. = 'HAMLET']] in 48,360ms
Hamlet speaks 359 times
(No warmup)
 
9:04 AM
I am trying to convert all my CDs to audio files. It takes some time...
 
@Morwenn You need a script ;)
 
The long part is that I have many CDs.
I already created the script to rename the files :D
 
:D
 
yeah, gonna take a while to rip + encode + swap disks
 
This is so nonsense...
 
9:06 AM
Yep.
 
rofl gives me a test script, performs fine... I use my own real troubling code, performance like hell
 
I just busted out some stats for this current project
 
Already 26 albums. Fortunately, some were already on my hard drive.
 
by my count, I've written about 7k lines in about 23 files
my boss has written about 700 lines in 2 files
this is probably why I want to stab him in the eye every day.
 
I gots my computer security final tomorrow afternoon. :-/
 
9:09 AM
@Jamal Is it a hardcore subject or intuition subject?
@Yuushi ouch
 
I'm not sure. I know it will be very conceptual but not mathematical.
 
I know I had such exam where I just got through on intuition and logic...
Ugh:
Load file: D:\DPC2\5.serialized\60\60.html in 1,925ms
Building file: D:\DPC2\5.serialized\60\60.html in 60482,247ms
XPath expression: [XPathExpression: 2 namespaces and 0 variables for query /h:html/h:body/h:div[@class='ocr_page']] in 2,774ms
pageElement = [Element: <div [Namespace: w3.org/1999/xhtml]/>]
 
I have got albums from bands that nobody knows. That's fun.
 
Is it delibaterely delaying by 60 seconds...
 
We're allowed a cheat sheet, which I still haven't finished.
 
9:11 AM
I even may have some songs that cannot be found on the internet :D
 
I should upload a cheat sheet of one of my exams (a single A4) once :D
 
@Morwenn Like what? :P
 
@Yuushi Scornwind - Drowning into Sorrow
 
@Morwenn It's not on youtube at least :P
 
@Yuushi And it's black metal anyway. The only reason I know of the band is because two of its members play in my band.
 
9:15 AM
Why did I get up so late? :( Now I gotta go to uni soonish in 30 mins or 50
 
Hopefully this will be the last time I go to bed late this semester. I'll have four days to study for my last final, which should be plenty.
 
Wee, colors!
@Jamal Ah I forgot ye... what time is it over there?
 
4:21 AM
 
That's.... quite late
 
@Morwenn Nothing wrong with Black Metal...although I like it when it also takes influence from other genres too
 
9:22 AM
@Yuushi I almost never listen to "pure" black metal myself. I generally listen to symphonic/epic/atmospheric black :)
 
same
 
@skiwi I think I nearly pulled an all-nighter last night unintentionally. Clearly I suck at time-management.
 
@Yuushi One of my biggest problem is that there are many great bands of atmospheric black and that many are unknown. Moreover, I can't remember their names.
 
@Morwenn I probably listen to a lot of stuff that'd be "mainstream" in these kind of circles :/
 
Oh, I do too. Well, maybe not actually. Summonning would be mainstream, but there seems to be different levels of "mainstream" in black metal^^"
 
9:25 AM
@Jamal You manage to survive with few hours sleep?
6 hours consistently over the week is pretty much my lower bound
 
Somehow I do, yes. But I'd like to work on kicking that habit this summer, when I will have no school.
 
@rolfl I'll be out soonish, updated report here: github.com/hunterhacker/jdom/issues/133
@Jamal That... is the worst time the test :D
 
Well, I have to leave.
See you later :)
 
Me, too.
 
laters
 
9:29 AM
later
 
Later!
 
golden:
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Q: Burninate the [run] tag

dsolimanoHow do we feel about eliminating the run tag? As far as I can tell, this tag is used when someone wants to run something when they have a method named run not sure about this one :-) And none of those scenarios are really helped by the run tag. So we either need a tag cleanup if we decide ...

 
time for me to head off as well, later
 
Everybody is leaving me ;(
@rolfl Good news and bad news: The issue is found at last
 
9:52 AM
Yes?
 
@rolfl Hey!
I just got the breakthrough
Literally a second ago
Important update on the issue, seemingly the URL www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd is very slow, this is most likely the real culprit.

Timings from my browser show that it takes 15 seconds to download the 7,9 kB file. I don't know how it relates to the 8 invocations the profiler measured, but the elapsed time in building is a multiple of 4 of the download time.
 
Hhhhhh... damn.
 
The changes of such an issue arising...
 
I know that problem... and have 'a' solution
 
Though every Tesseract output file uses it :(
I'll be eager to hear, a structural solution may be harder though
getting some lunch atm though, back in 5 mins to read quickly then moving to uni
 
9:56 AM
Read the readme
 
Only small remark I have is that I wouldn't expect it to lead the file 4 times under any condition, but it should normally not be an issue either way
I'll read there later, gotta go now
 

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