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1:02 AM
yodel-odelay-hee-hoo
 
So I misspelled it?
Hmm.
 
I'm not sure if yodeling has a fixed spelling or not.
 
 
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user227867
4:13 AM
@Tonepoet So you need to check the dictionary to find out =P
 
@WillHunting My doubtfulness stems from the variety of ways to yodel, as seen in that video. XP
 
user227867
@Tonepoet Not even clicking on it =P unless it's Jacob yodelling
 
Then you'll just have to take my word for it.
 
user227867
I take your word and words as AUTHORITATIVE
 
YOU
4:48 AM
what is Paper Service in catering and dining?
 
 
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user227867
8:09 AM
When I saw 'YOU' talking, I thought it was me talking. But it turns out that 'YOU' wasn't me.
 
1:04 PM
@WillHunting It was fun trying to explain that to my daughter when she was learning to talk. We'd point at a picture of her and say "Who's that?" and she'd say "You!"
 
2:02 PM
Is there a specific category of noun for those usually applicable to humans: said, reported, claimed, thought, argued, bought?

Thanks
verb, not noun, of course!
 
@Jdoh There aren't many verbs that aren't applicable to humans. Actually, I'm not sure there are any at all since even those that sound odd might be used for a specific effect.
 
2:19 PM
@terdon - I meant usually applicable to humans, not other things. I know it's not exact (most could be used after the New York Times, for example) but the list of verbs in my post would rarely be 'done' by things other than people.
 
@Jdoh Like?
Talk?
 
'said'
 
@Jdoh The weather report said we would have sunshine tomorrow
 
Although I realise what you meant. Almost all (if not all) verbs are applicable to to humans.
 
Come into my lair said the spider to the fly
 
2:21 PM
Yep, or the New York Times...
lair :)
 
Argh!
Wow.
You never saw that :)
 
I was just writing a fairly novice piece about how to find names in text. 'rules' I have are: following a title, capitalised, capitalised word (x2) followed by a comma and an integer (eg. John Doe, 27) and the one I can't explain properly, followed by verbs which are usually applied to humans such as said, reported, claimed, thought, argued, bought.

I just assumed that those verbs would have a category of their own
 
Most of those verbs are not just applied to singular humans, to but anything that is personified, like a team, a group, a business, etc.
Simliarly, anything that is capable of speech or independent action, like an AI, Narnia's talking animals, etc.
 
true @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇

Thanks both of you
I'm actually arguing showing the issues for using 'rules' to find a person's name in a text, saying that those verbs could follow something else, that capitalisation could give you the name Chicago etc
 
You could coin something and call the verbs you're thinking of "human-centric" or some clunky thing like that, but I doubt there'll be an established word for it since I don't think there is such a thing.
 
2:30 PM
Thanks both of you. I'll stick with my clunky explanation rather than coining something clunky!
 
@Jdoh well, when you need to categorize things you often have to invent or repurpose labels
 
true
 
like, if you establish that some verbs have a strongly likelihood of immediately following (or being connected to) proper names, you could call these... i dunno. HLPN verbs.
 
it's possible someone at Linguistics knows a word for it. although I would wager there isn't one.
 
2:57 PM
@Jdoh There might very well be a category for them, but probably not a grammatical category unlike say it might in other languages)
@YOU I think it means utensils (forks/knives/spoons), table cloths, and maybe even plates that are all disposable (single use). This is in contrast to china plates, linen table cloths and metal cutlery that are intended to be reused and need to be washed.
4
A: Word for disposable cutlery etc preferably without using "disposable"

suməlic"Paper service" seems like it might have the right meaning, so I thought I'd mention it. I'm not sure it's the best choice–actually, I learned of this word recently in chat when someone else asked what it meant, and I had to do some Googling to find out, so it might not be widely understood. How...

 
I prefer visually impaired to vision-impaired or sight-impaired. I wish I could find a nice alternative for hearing-impaired too.
 
I prefer glasses
aurally impaired sounds funny
 
Yeah. And I don't think audibly impaired would be readily understood, would it?
 
understood just as well as aurally impaired which is readily understood
 
@Mitch To what? Hearing aids?
 
3:09 PM
wait... audibly means you can hear things, so that sounds weird too but in a semantic way.
@Færd haha, no, I prefer it to being visually impaired.
Also, I'm slightly miffed that you didn't appreciate the pun that follows.
 
They don't cure your impairedness.
@Mitch Maybe I'm slow.
 
They ameliorate the loss of function
 
What pun?
 
"audibly impaired" would imply the imparedness (?) was audible, as in "audibly shocked"
 
"aurally impaired" and "sounds funny" because if you're aurally impaired everything sounds funny but I'm saying that the term aurally impaired itself sounds funny.
@MattE.Эллен Like maybe people can hear your earlobes snap shut
 
3:14 PM
@MattE.Эллен Or maybe being impaired in the sense of not being able to be heard.
Anyway, it doesn't work I guess.
@Mitch Aha!
 
@Mitch they can hear your ancestry and it sounds impish
(audibly imp heired)
 
LOL
 
@MattE.Эллен :D
that took me a few beats
about the neck and head
 
I don't remember having used LOL ever.
 
So is a brick bat a bat made out of brick? I would think it would break on first use.
Also heavy
 
3:18 PM
yeah, it doesn't sound like a useful tool
 
or sports implement
 
that too
when all you have is a brick bat, every problem looks unsolvable
 
oh well.
 
why not just say 'piece of brick'?
or 'paving stone'? (if that is what you have at hand)
 
3:20 PM
it the bat part implying that it can fly?
 
I'm going to have to write a letter about this.
 
yes. write to your MP or localised alternative
 
@MattE.Эллен following links, it seems to be 'no'. But then most of this stuff is made up anyway.
 
@Mitch bat: ... Also "a lump, piece" (mid-14c.), as in brickbat.
 
3:37 PM
@Færd Oh. I didn't see that. But anyway, that still smells of a wiktionary-like edit after the fact to doctor the evidence. I call shenanigans.
 
Yeah, it doesn't look like a coincidence that the only example is brickbat itself.
 
4:02 PM
Yo
Can I say "I emptied the whole plate"?
meaning I ate up all the food on the plate?
 
you can... it sounds odd but people would understand. finished is the usual word
 
@JustynaNogala like what Matt said. Or what I would say naturally "I cleaned my plate".
 
nice ;)
 
For drinks "I emptied the glass" is right.
 
Can you clean your plate with a slice of bread?
 
4:16 PM
I do it, but others think it is impolite
"I cleaned my plate" is not exactly literal, as it would be if you were using bread.
 
I don't care whether it's impolite or not. I just want to make sure how to use certain words :D
 
But they sound mostly identical whether you're doing it with bread or just by finishing everything.
@JustynaNogala I guessed so. We intentionally misunderstand everything here just for fun.
 
I've had a chance to notice that.
 
> 1 very much.
> 2 at great cost.
The first one is a bad definition I guess.
 
He loves her dearly
 
4:25 PM
> She holds him dearly to her chest. He hugs back just as hard...
(COCA)
It just means affectionately or passionately or something. Why would you say it means very much?
Can you hate someone dearly?
 
@Færd That is a bit strange
'dear' is supposed to be a synonym for 'expensive' but to me that is a rare usage.
 
Haven't anything cost you dearly before?
 
It's only ever 'Dear So-and-so..'
 
@Mitch I heard it a lot more in my youth than I do today
 
@Færd No. It has only ever been for me or in my hearing 'That cost a lot'
 
4:29 PM
Hmm.
 
@MattE.Эллен It sounds very Alice in Wonderland (19th c posh British writing of young children)
 
@Færd In Canada that usage isn't much used.
@Færd What definition of dearly, as in "He lovers her dearly", would you suggest that disallows "He hates her dearly"?
 
@Mitch so-and-sos are very expensive.
 
Have you any?
Yes sir yes sir three bags
 
I'm thinking probing dictionaries will only turn me into a weirdo. Far from how people speak.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I searched for verb collocates of dearly, and they're all either about costs and expenses or gentle emotions.
 
4:36 PM
not synonyms of just 'very'?
I dearly want to attend the debutante ball
 
I skimmed the list. And it's not a complete list of course.
@Mitch Yeah, there are results like that.
> It would help him be a better team player, which he dearly wanted to be.
 
The cylinder manifold dearly requires a lubricant of rating 10W50 or better to withstand the stresses of winter operating conditions
 
Thank you dearly.
That's plain awkward.
Or is it?
 
Hmm.. don't know. Go ask Alice.
 
@Mitch I think she'll know.
 
4:40 PM
What did the dormouse say?
 
@Mitch Feed you hay.
 
I dearly have to go.
Thank y'all dearly.
 
Bless your heart!
 
5:01 PM
@Mitch Doesn't that mean basically pour blood over your heart?
 
 
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6:29 PM
@Mitch "Twinkle, twinkle little bat! How I wonder where you're at!"
 
@Tonepoet Tea?
 
Yes please, with fourty lumps of sugar, but not a single grain more. I wouldn't want it to be too sweet now!
 
6:56 PM
What would you call the sound made by new shoes with leather soles on smooth, polished tiles? Crunch?
 
7:12 PM
@Færd Creak?
 
A little sharper and higher!
But yeah, it's essentially a creak.
Another example would be the noise of chewing on stretchy plastic.
I guess 'crunch' would do.
 
@Færd squeaky shoes
whether new leather shoes by themselves, or gym shoes on a gym floor (like at a basketball game)
@MetaEd a coronary heart attack is a chest pleonasm
 
7:31 PM
@Mitch Possibly a redundant pleonasm.
 
Maybe possibly
@Færd shoes walking across gravel makes a crunching sound. but across smooth tiles, they squeak
 
@Mitch Rubber soled shoes squeak on tile. Leather soles, I don't think they make a sound against the tile but the seams in the shoes can creak.
 
what is the sound of leather when you try to put on a new leather jacket?
I'm not sure. It's a distinctive sound though, similar to new shoes
 
Thanks.
I used to think of squeak as a continuous high noise. Like this or this (only the high ones).
But creaking and crunching and the sound of rubber/leather rubbing on a smooth floor are more like a dense sequence of separate noises.
 
7:47 PM
@Færd Mice squeak.
 
Yeah, exactly.
 
8:11 PM
@Færd squeaking is more canonically intermittent, short or bursty. a squeaking timer belt on a car is continuous squeaking.
 
Oh, I didn't know that.
 
@Færd creaking and crunching are also short or bursty. an old ship creaks in high winds. an un-oiled door creaks as it opens.
dry crumbly things crunch. or bones.
or hard crackers when you chew them.
 
Thanks.
 
squeaking and creaking (though slightly different) are high pitched and tonal.
crunching has no tone, just a noise.
we could do groaning and slurping and snorting next
 
There are too many sound words in English.
@Mitch I guess squeaking can be tonal or not. For leather under pressure it can be low without a distinguishable tone, but for rubbing your finger against a window pane it can have an audible dominant frequency.
 
8:21 PM
@Færd Oh. sure, but those sound pretty close, the shoe squeak just not sounding as long as the finger on a window pane sound. Sure, the shoe leather squeak doesn't have as pure a tone as rubbing your finger against a window, but there's still a high pitch there.
 
rubs finger on monitor
 
runs across gym in new tennis shoes
 
You energetic young 'uns.
 
8:37 PM
@Mitch Get on my lawn.
 
 
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10:52 PM
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