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8:00 PM
Oh...
 
What program do I need if I want to connect to the phone from my compiuter?
Use the phones internet etc.
(not wireless)
 
You can just copy files through USB.
Using the phone's Internet, why not wireless? That is the easiest, built-in option.
 
Don't think I have wireless on the work computer
at least it is not enabled
I use the wireless thing with laptop all the time. It is great.
 
> support.google.com/nexus/answer/2812516?rd=2 Wired tethering on Android, looks really simple.
 
@Cerberus You lucky son of a b@#&c :D
 
8:06 PM
Haha.
I'm sure I am.
But oddly my mother is not a bitch:
 
I have seen good people being driven to madness by Lotus Notes
 
In Greek mythology, Echidna (/ɪˈkɪdnə/; Greek: Ἔχιδνα, "she viper") was a half-woman, half-snake monster, known as the "Mother of All Monsters" because many of the more famous monsters in Greek myth were mothered by her. Hesiod's Theogony described her as: [...] the goddess fierce Echidna who is half a nymph with glancing eyes and fair cheeks, and half again a huge snake, great and awful, with speckled skin, eating raw flesh beneath the secret parts of the holy earth. And there she has a cave deep down under a hollow rock far from the deathless gods and mortal men. There, then, did the gods appoint...
 
@oerkelens No, that's the fruit, not the notes.
 
Een broertje dood aan Lotus?
 
@Cerberus Notes met name :)
 
8:07 PM
In Greek mythology the lotus-eaters (Greek: λωτοφάγοι, lōtophagoi), also referred to as the lotophagi or lotophaguses (singular lotophagus /ləˈtɒfəɡəs/) or lotophages (singular lotophage /ˈloʊtəfeɪdʒ/), were a race of people living on an island near North Africa (possibly Djerba) dominated by lotus plants. The lotus fruits and flowers were the primary food of the island and were narcotic, causing the people to sleep in peaceful apathy. == In literature == In the Odyssey IX, Odysseus tells how adverse north winds blew him and his men off course as they were rounding Cape Malea, the southernmost...
 
@oerkelens OK noted.
 
Lotus cars, cookies and flowers are fine
:P
 
@Cerberus nice
 
@terdon Better.
 
So, it's son of a viper then...
That explains the... no it doesn't
 
8:08 PM
@JohanLarsson So I'm sure everything you want is possible. Synching Lotus notes with your company's server would seem to be the best solution, there are apps for that...
@oerkelens I am inexplicable.
 
So are many things, as I found out today again
 
Like what?
 
Had so much fun on ELL... until I was asked what it was...
4
Q: Why is this sentence wrong?

user1917217I have heard the following answer from native speaker. The first time when I drove was at driving school. So I applied that to write a sentence like this. Dracula when I saw was the latest/last movie. Is this sentence wrong? If yes, what is wrong and what should be modified?

Looking back I wonder why I started :D
 
Oh, dear...
 
thanks, I guess :)
I really feel I got pity-votes for that answer :P
 
8:16 PM
@Cerberus I think they would detect an illegal device
Don't want to find out
 
@JohanLarsson Oh, is it not allowed?
You could ask?
 
@Cerberus notes curious fact about Cerb
 
I know!
 
Hey, your namesake is a dog, so... your namesake's mom is ... well those Greeks probably had something weird going on for Cerb's parents.
> Cerberus is the offspring of Echidna, a hybrid half-woman and half-serpent, and Typhon, a gigantic monster even the Greek gods feared
I knew it. I wonder which half though.
Oh. reading the trail This has already been discussed.
 
nods
And that wasn't the first time!
 
8:29 PM
Sometimes it takes retelling over and over to finally get it.
 
Read that and you'll get it.
 
Wow. Over and over and over. I got it.
The other interesting factoid is... chat.stackexchange.com/…
 
What did you do to rob?
 
Who? And did something infact happen to Rob?
 
Hah.
Looks I don't say that.
 
8:33 PM
Booya!
 
Hi.
 
Looks like Populist is no longer revoked?
 
looks
 
I just got a new Populist even though my previous Populist answer no longer qualifies.
 
doesn't see like Populist is no longer revoked
 
8:34 PM
@Mitch he is rarely around
 
@RegDwigнt Yay!
 
not yay imo
 
I think he's yaying me and not Rob's absence.
And QED.
 
Rob was here yesterday!
 
He was here today.
He even posted a video.
 
8:36 PM
QinDeedy.
The nerve!
 
10 hours ago, by Robusto
 
I have clicked it.
 
And now that I have sound I can confirm @Rob it is indeed not quite 80s just yet.
But it's getting there.
 
But now I must ins Bett.
 
Of course. It's past eight!
 
8:38 PM
I know!!
 
You've watched Sandmännchen, so now it's ab in die Heia.
 
It is OVER 9:00 even.
Heia?
 
== Heia (Deutsch) == === Substantiv, f === Worttrennung: Heia, Plural 1: Heia, Plural 2: Hei·as Aussprache: IPA: [ˈhaɪ̯a], Plural 1: [ˈhaɪ̯a], Plural 2: [ˈhaɪ̯as] Hörbeispiele: —, Plural 1: —, Plural 2: — Reime: -aɪ̯a Bedeutungen: [1] Kindersprache: Bett; Ort, an dem man schläft Beispiele: [1] Ich geh in die Heia. [1] Ich will Heia machen! Redewendungen: Heia machen — schlafen (gehen) Wortbildungen: Heiabett ==== Übersetzungen ==== Referenzen und weiterführende Informationen: [1] Digitales Wörterbuch der deutschen Sprache „Heia“ [*] canoo.net „Heia“ [1] Uni Leipzig: Wortschatz-Lexikon...
> Kindersprache: Bett; Ort, an dem man schläft
 
Ah.
I suspected as much.
 
Very suspicious of you.
 
8:39 PM
Could it be related to hay?
And do you have an expression with nest in German?
And how about basket?
Nest and mand can be used to mean "bed" in Dutch, informally.
 
Can't find it in Grimm's.
 
Ow.
 
They only have it as a variant of hey.
Interjection.
 
Let me consult Kluge e.a.
 
Die Bezeichnung Heiermann wird in manchen Gegenden Deutschlands umgangssprachlich für das 5-Mark-Stück, heute selten auch für den 5-Euro-Schein, verwendet. Das Wort entstand wohl Anfang des 20. Jahrhunderts im norddeutschen Sprachraum, breitete sich anekdotischen Angaben zufolge aber mindestens bis ins Rheinland aus. Vereinzelt (in Krefeld) soll zudem das 50-Pfennig-Stück als „Heiermännchen“ bezeichnet worden sein. == Herkunft des Begriffs == Über den Ursprung des Begriffes gibt es mehrere Vermutungen. Die etymologisch am besten abgesicherte Variante besagt, dass der Begriff aus dem hebräischen…
 
8:41 PM
> Heia Sf "Bett" std. kind. (18. Jh.) Stammwort. Die Lautung ist kindersprachlich und mundartlich ober- und mitteldeutsch verbreitet in Bedeutungen wie "Wiege - Kinderbett - schlafen"; der Wiegenlied-Refrain eia (popeia) dürfte damit zusammenhängen. Es kann sich um Lautmalerei handeln, doch ist Anschluß an altes Wortgut (ig. * ḱei- "liegen, schlafen") möglich. deutsch d.
 
That's the closest Wikipedia comes to mentioning it. So not close at all.
@Cerberus better.
 
That was Kluge.
In Vitaly's Golden Dictionary.
 
I know I just found that very quote.
 
Ah.
 
On a page where someone spole it "Heier", no less. newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/De/de.etc.sprache.deutsch/…
Some people are just...
 
8:43 PM
By the way, we have a heitje in Dutch.
Which is presumably an old coin or amount of money.
 
Heitje-popeitje.
 
I think we may have that too.
 
@Cerberus an old or an amount?
Ah.
 
But heitje voor karweitje means something like "a modest amount of money for a small chore".
 
So I see that person from Gaming still hasn't got you.
 
8:45 PM
Children may do heitje voor karweitje and earn some coin by mowing the neighbour's lawn.
 
I thought the plan was to annihilate you within a month or something. And that was a year ago.
 
Buwahaha.
She never stood a chance.
 
@Cerberus I don't even want to ask about karweitje.
What a weirdo language.
 
Een karwei is a chore.
No idea why.
 
Exactly.
 
8:47 PM
Karwij is a foodstuff, pronounced the same but probably unrelated.
 
It sounds like Russian for loaf.
 
It is a kind of spice, I believe.
 
Карава́й — главный свадебный хлеб у славян, большой, чаще всего круглый, который делят на свадьбе для угощения всех её участников. Обычно искусно украшенный. == Название == укр. корова́й, болг. крава́й, сербохорв. кра̀ва̑j «вид пирога, подаваемого жениху и невесте», словен. kravȃj, krávaj "каравай". Вероятно, название произошло от слова коро́ва, которое в русских диалектах имеет также значение «невеста» (смол.); дар должен был быть волшебным средством, чтобы вызвать плодовитость, подобно тому как бык символизировал жениха. Коровай по-белорусски называется также я́ловiца (от я́ловый). Назв...
The korovai (Ukrainian: коровай, Polish: korowaj) is a traditional Ukrainian, Russian and Polish bread, most often used at weddings, where it has great symbolic meaning, and has remained part of the wedding tradition in Ukraine, Russia, Belarus, and by the Ukrainian diaspora. Its use in Russia, Belarus and Ukraine dates back to hospitality and holiday customs in ancient Rus. == Origins and decoration of korovai == The bread has ancient origins, and comes from the pagan belief in the magical properties of grain. Korovai was a large round braided bread, traditionally baked from wheat flour ...
O English. Why on earth would you spell it with two Os.
 
Caraway (Carum carvi), also known as meridian fennel, or Persian cumin, is a biennial plant in the family Apiaceae, native to western Asia, Europe and Northern Africa. The plant is similar in appearance to other members of the carrot family, with finely divided, feathery leaves with thread-like divisions, growing on 20–30 cm stems. The main flower stem is 40–60 cm tall, with small white or pink flowers in umbels. Caraway fruits (erroneously called seeds) are crescent-shaped achenes, around 2 mm long, with five pale ridges. == Names and history == The etymology of caraway is complex and po...
 
Korova means cow!
 
8:48 PM
Haha.
English sucks.
 
> In eastern Ukraine, the mother receives a pair of shoes made out of dough, while the father is given an owl, out of those decorating the korovai.
Mkay.
Anyway. You must ins Bett, and I must watch the second Hobbit.
Though I really don't much want to...
 
Haha, what.
Weird.
What mark would you give the first film?
> Ontleend aan fra. corvée, uit mlat. corvada/corvata (uit corrogata), oproeping (tot verplichten arbeid)
We also have corvee in Dutch.
 
Well the last hour yesterday was even worse than the two hours before it.
 
I knew it.
 
@Cerberus I gave it a four.
 
8:51 PM
Out of 4.5?
 
@Cerberus it was more of the same all over again, but even worse execution.
@Cerberus four out of ten.
 
OK.
I won't watch it.
 
I completely forgot to mention how much the music sucked.
 
But why watch the second film, then?
 
@Cerberus so I can rate it.
And talk about it.
 
8:52 PM
Such fun!
Are you having fun now??
 
More than I'll be having watching the Hobbit, I guess.
 
Yay!
I wish I could be of more help.
 
But that's still a guess. I do not know. So that's why I have to watch it.
 
Odd.
You also don't know that Sex and the City 5 sucks.
The film.
 
Also, then I can finally watch all the funny "Everything Wrong with X" videos about it on YouTube.
 
8:54 PM
Yay!
 
So it sort of makes up for it. A little.
So anyway. The music. I don't know what Howard Shore was thinking.
 
House?
 
Just watch the Everything Wrong with X. You'll get the gist of the movie and laugh at it too, In under 10 minutes.
 
Metal?
 
House Metal.
 
8:55 PM
Basically at all time he's dutifully playing the tune of whoever is on the screen.
 
So you're kind of right on both accounts.
 
Glass House.
 
Very boring and stupid.
 
A tune tied to a person?
 
I felt constantly reminded me of what Débussy said of that other Ring, by Wagner.
"He doesn't write music, he writes giant phonebooks".
 
8:56 PM
Ouch.
 
Well it's true. Except the Ring is more masterful actually.
Here, it's just... so in your face.
OMG a sad moment play sad music OMG a cut to Gandalf play the Gandalf tune pronto, wait no there's a cut to Frodo (Frodo????) play his tune NOW.
 
Huh, Frodo?
Odd.
The personal tunes thing sounds stupid.
 
The first, like, 20 minutes is all Frodo.
Eating an apple and not doing anything else.
I am serious.
@Cerberus it's perfectly fine for an opera, say, and generally has a long tradition.
 
Sure.
But not for a film!
Why Frodo??
 
But in an opera you just have that one guy singing for five minutes, and then you don't see him for another hour. Here, it's all cuts back and forth, so it becomes unnerving.
@Cerberus because it has to be tied into the Ring trilogy. Frodo is but one example. You are constantly reminded of the Ring trilogy. References all over the place.
 
9:02 PM
But why in boring ways?
 
Or, as the Everything Wrong With video put it, "to remind you of a very unpopular movie that came out a whopping ten years ago".
 
The Necromancer, now that is a good idea.
 
Umm unpopular?
The trilogy was a huge success?
 
The original Hobbit was not
 
9:03 PM
@Cerberus OMG. You are like every single commenter on that page. Really? You do know what sarcasm means, right?
 
I don't get why it's funny, is all.
 
His point is that nobody needs a reminder of that not unpopular movie that barely just came out.
 
All right.
 
@Cerberus see, and that's why you have to watch the film first. Otherwise half the jokes you hear about it just don't make sense. You're missing all the context needed.
 
Je spant het paard achter de wagen.
 
9:06 PM
I think if that many people don’t get a joke it might just not be that good a joke.
 
As long as the right people get it...
 
@TylerJamesYoung Many people did get the joke, indeed most did.
 
I didn’t know it was spoken. A lot can come from tone.
 
@RegDwigнt Have you counted heads?
 
9:07 PM
I’d imagine this is a generally sarcastic person.
 
Where was Hydra?
 
Some people probably didn’t listen.
 
Lalalala.
 
There are also people who have trouble detecting sarcasm.
 
But that doesn't matter anyway. "Good" is not defined as "mediocre". In fact it's defined as not mediocre.
 
9:08 PM
@TylerJamesYoung Haha, very funny.
 
I wasn’t joking!
 
@TylerJamesYoung you've never seen those videos? They are quite well known, get millions of views each.
 
now you’re over-detecting it
 
@TylerJamesYoung Nice.
 
I probably have. I have enough of a memory to think so, anyway.
 
9:09 PM
That one right there has 5.5 million as of now.
They are all just cracking jokes rather than boringly stating facts. Nobody would watch that.
 
^There’s some, Cerberus!
Get it!
 
gets it
 
Cerberus never gets it.
 
nice
haha
 
Get what?
 
9:11 PM
There's that Russian saying, you try to catch two hares at once, you'll catch none. Same with Cerberus. You try to get it with three heads, you'll get it with none.
 
What did I need to get for you? I'm not your fetching-dog.
 
You needed to get to the bed.
 
BRB
 
I’m sorry, your avi convinced me you’d make an excellent fetching dog.
 
Avi, eh. Now that's a new one.
 
9:13 PM
yeah I’m not too comfortable with it myself, to be honest
 
I've even seen gravvy, but avi is too Windows to be used by geeks I guess.
 
picked it up on the twitters
 
Oh there you go. Twitters are no geeks.
 
I like how short it is, and the meaning seems pretty well discoverable
 
I actually had to think for a second.
Or three.
 
9:14 PM
I’m sorry
 
Too late.
 
Do you want to talk about sexism?
 
I cannot unthink.
@TylerJamesYoung I never do.
 
No, really. This is about reps.
I can argue any point at all with the same confidence, gusto and skill.
 
9:15 PM
you have clearly mastered the acquisition of rep
 
I always say my bit and drop out. Everyone else can then kill one another over it.
After upvoting me, that is.
 
I found it really interesting that Magus’ answer had zero votes last I checked
 
and now?
 
it was like the worst of both worlds
 
Haha, yes.
That is a good way to describe it.
 
9:17 PM
it seems like the fundamental disagreement is whether or not sexism is subjective
 
@TylerJamesYoung that's just how SE works. For everyone. You just have to somehow make up for all the great answers you've put effort into which nobody ever upvoted or even read.
 
although I suppose you have to buy into the idea of microagressions
how to link
 
You're missing an http.
 
ah
I don’t know. It seems reasonable for me that a language can affect its speakers.
and I’ve studied cognitive linguistics at Oxford so I really know what I’m talking about!
 
Tapir-Worf, eh.
 
9:21 PM
you plebs!
yes
sorry for calling everyone plebs
 
The thing is, in this case, is it the language affecting the speakers or the speakers affecting the language?
 
Oh, not that socio-psychological stuff...
 
@TylerJamesYoung that's the most decent thing anyone called anyone here in a long time.
 
@Mitch - hmm, food for thought. I think (well, I don't live in great Britain, so all I get is BBC and Guardian on occasion) we tend to stereotype women voters more. In any case, the media doesn't do the same with males.
 
I think it’s more the former than the latter, but I take your point
 
9:23 PM
This is a very complicated approach to making us talk about sexism after all. You shall not pass.
 
I meant the Whorfianism.
 
That's Lieutenant Whorfianism to you.
 
No idea what question you were talking about.
 
I dare not link it
 
9:24 PM
Something something niggardly craftman.
 
I'm sure Klingons become aggressive from speaking Klingon.
They don't even bother to affix the name of their language, for crying out loud.
Or do they?
 
I think like anything named for a person, Whorfianism has been defined more by those subscribing to it than by Sapir or Whorf
 
But I got only 2 hours of sleep last night.
 
You can’t hear it, but they say the enn a little longer at the end
 
@TylerJamesYoung Possibly...but I know many things Whorf said were plain wrong.
 
9:25 PM
Mar 13 '12 at 13:25, by RegDwight Ѭſ道
taH pagh taHbe'
 
which in their language means language
 
Lies!
 
you caught me
 
In their language, it means poopiepants.
 
see ®’s post for the real answer
 
9:25 PM
@Cerberus nah, less than the Greeks. Have you heard a Greek?
 
Sure, those too.
But I must ins Bett really now.
 
Aug 7 at 8:57, by RegDwigнt
It goes from one to eleven, then Romanian, then Greek.
 
Maybe English makes me whiny
 
@Cerberus yes. And I must watch the sexist Hobbit.
 
Oh, is the Hobbit sexist now? Let's not Americanise, shall we?
 
9:27 PM
@Cerberus I dunno, I will tell you once I see the first woman in it.
If.
 
I think Smaug is a chick
 
I'm not there just yet.
 
Is something without women now sexist?
 
But she must be. Why else would she be into gold FFS.
 
Are gays sexist?
 
9:27 PM
yes, it’s called underrepresentation
 
@Cerberus you tell me.
 
I think you know the answer.
 
first of all, there can be gay women
 
@TylerJamesYoung You have to look at the bigger picture.
 
@Cerberus I thought it was rhetorical and thus had no answer.
 
9:28 PM
Such a simplistic way of reasoning us just ach.
@RegDwigнt Did I not know that?
 
@Cerberus spake the man who hasn't seen a single one of the pictures we're talking about. :P
 
@TylerJamesYoung They will still exclude a certain sex.
@RegDwigнt I have seen the LotR films.
 
well not necessarily
 
Sure they will.
 
but it’s not the point anyway
 
9:29 PM
@Cerberus no way. You are confusing them with Sex and the City 2.
 
You will find few men in porn made for lesbians.
 
not having sex with someone is not a sexist act
 
@Cerberus the bigger picture is that none of the dwarves can even exist, because they have no mothers.
 
@RegDwigнt Hah. I have seen only one SatC film. It was horrible, I don't want to talk about it. I liked the LotR films well enough.
 
Of course there are dwarven women!
 
9:30 PM
@TylerJamesYoung Sure it is, you're excluding a sex.
 
Also, since you've not seen the Hobbit, I probably need to point out that there are indeed gay jokes in there. And anti-women jokes. And fart jokes.
 
Seriously?
 
Really quite awful at times.
 
all about dwarves
 
Such travesty.
Poor Tolkien. He is lucky to be dead.
 
9:31 PM
@Cerberus yeah. I dunno what they are even doing in a children's movie.
 
@Cerberus that is a wilful misinterpretation of the concept
 
@TylerJamesYoung So is judging a film to be sexist just because there are no women in it.
 
I mean, they specifically dumbed it all down to PG-13, but then they went and added sexist jokes?
 
@medica are you referring to my comments on Yoichi's question?
 
But I must away.
BAI!
I look forward to continuing these discussions elsetimes.
poof
 
9:32 PM
If so, I can't tell the difference between UK and US there. I'm not saying that I see a lack of difference but that I just can't tell.
 
@Cerberus we are not judging a film to be sexist just because there are no women in it. We are judging it to be sexist because there are no women in it and it is openly sexist against women, and is proud of it.
BAI!
So. Can I go watch the Desolation of Episode Two now?
 
@Cerberus That equivalency doesn’t make any sense.
 
I guess I can.
 
Au rugay.
 
9:33 PM
one day I will learn to earn
 
While we were talking, I got four new comments.
Ah the people.
 
probably from me
 
I don't even look at the names anymore. I just click them away.
Feb 16 '11 at 13:30, by RegDwight
But I think that Ex-user is spot on anyhow: it all evens out in the end. You take your time to compose a thorough answer, you get 2 upvotes. You post a half-assed joke, you get 20. In the end, you still have 22 upvotes, whether you would prefer them to be the other way round or not.
 
John Y is making my point
 
But I'm not here.
poofff
 
9:36 PM
splitter!
 
10:23 PM
The interest rate in Sweden is 0 now, first time it happened. We had deflation for a while.
 
10:57 PM
@RegDwigнt You've never heard of Carole King before this?
@JohanLarsson What happens in deflation? You pay the bank to hold your money?
 
I think the quantity of money decreases
Money go up in value
I'm no expert
It can get problematic to get consumption started again. I think Japan has had that problem for a while.
The planet is probably happy about it though.
1 min ago, by Johan Larsson
I'm no expert
not even very interested
economics is so full of bs
I think the interest rate can be negative also
at least in theory it should be possible
perhaps that would be contraproductive
 
@tchrist - if you could steer me towards something regarding a conditional/subjunctive and the tense(s) it calls for, I would be grateful. The sentence is "If you were to fall onto hard times, I would do whatever was needed to get you through..." or, as someone asked today, "If you were ever in trouble, I would give you all the help you needed." I can't explain it. Many thanks.
 
@JohanLarsson There's a reason they call economics "the dismal science."
 
11:50 PM
You can't even see economists in that array. You'd need a much bigger comic strip.
 
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