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1:00 PM
@RegDwigнt The answer to your question is one or more of the p-words in my supercited list.
@MattЭллен Looks like you, too, are for some puncticulatation due.
 
Today, there were several moments I felt as if I would be able to solve all my problems and find happiness.
 
@JasperLoy You appear to have something out.
Maybe even several somethings.
 
@tchrist apart from Buena Vista, there was another movie I was wondering if you had seen. La Antena.
 
@RegDwigнt I have not.
 
@tchrist you should. It is a mute movie in Spanish.
It is not entirely without flaws, but it is excellent.
 
1:04 PM
A Spanish silent film, eh?
 
Yup.
Very cool. Watched it with my wife, same opinion.
 
Does it come with subtitles?
 
How else would it be in Spanish?
But I am not spoiling too much.
Just go watch the first five minutes if you're unsure.
 
@tchrist Well, maybe tomorrow I will feel hopeless, I don't know.
 
It does intrigue.
@JasperLoy Cabe esperar.
@RegDwigнt Are you allowed to tell me whether the slow-game serial-downvoting reversal script is sufficiently savvy to snoop out people playing the long game? I seem to recall having read how it had been improved in that regard a year or two ago. Like 20 otherwise unaccountable downvotes spread across 30 days or whatnot.
 
1:11 PM
@tchrist I know exactly as much about the script as you do. And probably less.
I don't think Joel knows.
I think it's really just a couple people, the ones who wrote it.
 
Anyway, I no longer bother about people downvoting me, phew!
 
I’d just hate to bother a CM to look into something that a script will already have been doing for them. It seems petty for someone with my rep to complain of such things; they have more important things to do.
 
Anyone with more than a couple votes on anyone else comes up in mod-tool stats. So even if it's not reversed immediately, or ever, it should be visible pretty much straight away.
 
Ah.
 
5 votes is safe for 1 day.
 
1:15 PM
@JasperLoy That depends upon the user’s journey.
 
It won't be reversed by the script, but over time, mods will still know and can do a manual reverse.
How do I know? From experience, lol.
The system can never be perfect, there is no way to distinguish 5 real votes and 5 false votes, whatever that means.
It is up to the subjective judgement of the moderator.
There was a case of a reversal of over 2000 rep on Math.
 
@JasperLoy Disagree. There is a difference between a targeting pattern and an incidental one, Jasper, and this can be detected by a script. If you keep some user’s list of old answers open and pick off five of them, it is different than if over the course of the day, that user happens to post ten new answers, and you come across them in the routine course of looking at new postings, and intersperse those downvotes with upvotes or votes on other people.
 
@tchrist What I mean is, why can't we look at the posts of a user we like, find them helpful genuinely, and upvote all of them?
 
This is not something a moderator can easily distinguish, but the system’s full transaction log would make it clear, and so a CM or a clever script could tell the difference.
@JasperLoy Is that question a rhetorical one, or would you care for an explanation?
 
@tchrist Rhetorical
 
1:20 PM
Then the answer is because they said so.
 
Did the site ever say we cannot do that? What's the user profile for then?
 
Answer to the first is an emergently-behaved yes. Answer to the second is CV: Too Broad.
 
I am eating tomatoes and grapes. Very weird combo.
Don't think I've done it before.
 
I am drinking my saliva now.
 
@JasperLoy That requires diligence and a very long-game view. Well, or a voting ring. You would think that if there were any SE site where people would be aware of the possibility of such naughtinesses being sussed out and stamped out, it would be that one.
@RegDwigнt Just those two alone, or in combination with other elements, such as in a salad or sauce of some sort?
 
1:25 PM
I was sort of part of a voting ring then. I often upvoted someone who often upvoted me too. Anyway, I no longer do this.
 
@JasperLoy How did you know they were upvoting you?
 
@tchrist It just became obvious after a while that we were upvoting each other eg through comments.
 
@RegDwigнt Also, what color grapes with what color tomatoes?
 
@JohanLarsson That long black cloud is coming down. Let's get those demonstrative right. Otherwise you may not be knockin' on heaven's door.
 
@JasperLoy Hm. Mutual admiration society ᴀᴋᴀ circle jerk.
 
1:27 PM
@tchrist Yes.
 
@tchrist no just the two alone. I did put some salt on the tomatoes. Other than that, nothing else.
 
@RegDwigнt Interesting.
 
@tchrist red tomatoes. Small ones, longish. Roma.
 
Ah, not cherries then.
I should think that white grapes and red cherry tomatoes of a similar size might prove an interesting combination aesthetically speaking.
 
And green grapes. Insultingly sweet. Like really, Coca-Cola-came-along-and-added-60%-sugar-to-it-and-not-the-corn-syrup-kind-but-t‌​he-real-stuff kind of sweet.
 
1:29 PM
I think I will watch the movie Lucy next week.
 
Isn’t it funny how for some people, the notion of putting salt on fruit is abhorrent, while to others, normal?
 
Calling them Einstein in a voice dripping with sarcasm usually does the trick. — Robusto 14 secs ago
 
The tomatoes are quite sweet, too. But they are sweet like tomatoes are sweet. The grapes, on the other hand, are sweet like grapes are sweet.
 
@RegDwigнt That’s what I meant by white grape, I think. Although those little “champagne grapes” are way way sugary.
 
Back when tomatoes were tomatoes, I used to eat them like apples with a little bit of salt.
Tomatoes haven't been tomatoes for decades, however.
They are TSOs: Tomato-Shaped Objects.
 
1:30 PM
@tchrist the tomato is only a fruit to people who want to show off with what they just overheard on the Internet and it blew their little mind. Otherwise, it's a vegetable.
 
@Robusto Those from one’s garden still are. But you’re talking to a person who puts black pepper in his chilled tomato juice upon serving.
 
I have not eaten a tomato for years.
 
My stepdad puts salt on his cantaloupe, and my mom thinks him weird for this.
 
@Robusto I grow my own ones. I've heard very bad things about what you must put up with, and as a tomato lover I am really really sorry.
 
@tchrist If one has a garden, sure. But I prefer to let others do that menial labor.
 
1:32 PM
@RegDwigнt Wow, you are a tomato grower!
 
@Robusto Por eso se inventaron los jardineros domésticos.
 
I have never liked pulling weeds and all that.
 
@Robusto it's just some water once a day.
 
And weeding. And bugs.
 
I grow nothing, except my hair and nails.
 
1:32 PM
I am not a gardener by any stretch or lack of any imagination.
 
Plus you have to be out where wasps can sting you and all that shit.
I imagine a world in which caring people furnish me with excellent tomatoes without my having to do anything but pay them.
 
I just throw seeds at earth, go "yeah take that, earth", do a little dance and add some water every other day when I don't forget. Then I eat the results.
 
@Robusto I would not have taken you for a generic entomophobe, although those apiphobes threatened by anaphylaxis are perfectly rational.
 
It's insultingly simple. How do you think we were able to survive for so long.
 
@tchrist I don't like bugs. In nature or in code.
 
1:34 PM
I wonder if plants feel pain when we take away their fruits and leaves.
 
@Robusto I get those for 1.50 a pound at the supermarket around the corner. Tomatoes, that is, not caring people.
That's where I have the seeds from in the first place.
 
@JasperLoy they emit a particular frequency when cut
 
@RegDwigнt Tomatoes, sure. But excellent tomatoes?
 
@Robusto excellent tomatoes. And note the price.
 
@MattЭллен This raises the difficult question of what pain truly is.
 
1:36 PM
@RegDwigнt Is that in dollars or metric?
 
Life's too short and I am too old to be eating unexcellent tomatoes.
@Robusto Euros.
And it's half a kilo.
I translated into pounds for your convenience.
 
@Robusto I’m not sure that being willing to pursue an amorous relationship with one’s resident and transient hemipterans is a necessary job requirement in the prudent gardener.
 
@RegDwigнt I knew the weight translation, just not the currency denomination.
 
@RegDwigнt casts buckets of mercy in your general direction
 
@tchrist *mercury
 
1:38 PM
I buy them by the dozen packages, plus harvest whatever's ripe in the garden, and that's what I eat all the time. There are days where I pretty much don't eat anything but the tomatoes. You just won't be able to pull that stunt off with unexcellent ones.
 
@Robusto Contrary to popular opinion, hydrangea are not hydrargyrum lovers.
 
That was hardly a quicksilver response.
 
@RegDwigнt A man after my own heart. And tomatoes. Remind me to plug the electric fence in before your next visit.
 
I thought it'd been washed away.
 
Nothing so lovely as a tomato sandwich, not even bruschetta.
 
1:40 PM
@tchrist Mozzarella improves on the tomato experience, IMO.
 
So anyway. Just to round it up: I don't think I ever mixed tomatoes and grapes before.
It's peculiar.
 
@RegDwigнt grumples The damned does have leapt the fence and devoured most of my crop this year.
 
@Robusto Seems to be mozzarella.
 
@Robusto many cheeses do. Not all. But many.
 
I have only one big-fruit plant which is still productive, and I believe the cherries may yet return.
 
1:42 PM
@JasperLoy Tru dat. Thank you.
 
But it is as nothing.
 
Mozart-Teller.
 
Penn & Teller
 
Adella is mort, long live Adella.
 
Just text her. It’s easier.
 
1:43 PM
Adella is like Michael Dell's failed attempt at a palindrome.
Or perhaps "Michael Dell's failed" is a pleonasm.
 
I keep planting morning glories and delphinium and aconite to tempt the deer into sick-bambi-syndrome, but they’re too savvy for that.
The morning glories are a great wall of lovely death this year.
 
I need a duck. To scare off the slugs.
I hate those things.
But I don't want to clean up after the duck, either.
 
My sunflower plantation failed — no, please do not ask how — but instead I have an unexpected bumper crop of volunteer mullein standing eight feet high just backside the fence, a great regiment of defenders. The hinds avoid those as well.
 
I think slugs like beer, but it kills them
 
Depending on your definition of cherry, the Roma I'm eating are even smaller than that.
 
1:48 PM
Oh, we call those ones grape tomatoes these days.
 
And the ones I grew myself are smaller still.
 
@MattЭллен Alas poor Homer, I knew him.
 
The weather's been meh for like two weeks, so they've stopped growing but still went on to get red.
 
Wow, I just learned that mullein is an import!
Had no idea!
Verbascum thapsus (great mullein or common mullein) is a species of mullein native to Europe, northern Africa and Asia, and introduced in the Americas and Australia. It is a hairy biennial plant that can grow to 2 metres tall or more. Its small yellow flowers are densely grouped on a tall stem, which bolts from a large rosette of leaves. It grows in a wide variety of habitats, but prefers well-lit disturbed soils, where it can appear soon after the ground receives light, from long-lived seeds that persist in the soil seed bank. It is a common weedy plant that spreads by prolifically producing seeds...
 
And there's even a couple that are the size of blackcurrant, they are still green, but don't look like they'll be getting any larger.
I do wonder if they still get red.
That's be cool.
 
1:51 PM
@RegDwigнt That seems surprising. Unless by blackcurrant you unconscionably meant gooseberry, but I find that unlikely.
Peewee tomatoes.
The size of a pearl.
 
Mullein appear to be Kleinblütige Königskerze in German. Hm.
 
No, blackcurrant.
Gooseberry would be the size the ripe ones have.
The couple green ones are really like pearls.
I don't think they can possibly ripen as is, there's no way they can develop seeds at this size. They will have to grow, or stay green till I throw away the plant. But a man can dream.
Tomato-flavored redcurrant. Just think of the possibilities.
 
@RegDwigнt Mort must be a cross-dresser then.
IMO, cherry tomatoes are neither cherry nor tomato. Just as the peanut is neither a pea nor a nut.
 
Yeah and the Russian Commonwealth, and the Federal Reserve. Been there.
Aug 11 at 20:48, by RegDwigнt
English really is easy at first and hard later.
 
2:02 PM
@RegDwigнt Attribution?
Apr 18 '11 at 21:34, by Robusto
John McWhorter: "English really is easy(-ish) at first and hard later, while other languages like Russian are hard at first and then just as hard later! Show me one person who has said that learning Russian was no problem after they mastered the basics—after the basics you just keep wondering how anybody could speak the language without blacking out."
 
@Robusto that's called a reference. And thank you for explaining my words to me.
 
@RegDwigнt Unattributed references are called plagiarism.
We've been over this.
 
You're a plagiarism.
 
NOU.
 
I reference your own words in your presence, and rather than appreciating it you sue my poor donkey.
 
2:03 PM
No. I have my lawyer sue donkeys. I never indulge in it myself.
 
But at least you are doing something. Last time I mentioned it, you didn't react at all. No appreciation and no sueage. I burst out in several tears.
It's one thing not to read my shit, but a different thing not to read my shit in my face.
 
@RegDwigнt Oh, that was you in the gay anime pick above?
@RegDwigнt If you have shit in your face, it probably isn't legible.
 
@Robusto They said it was a man from the 21st century. And I am a man from the 21st century, so yes, that must be me.
 
That's you all over.
 
I am High Quality? That is so nice of you.
I might even stop crying.
 
2:09 PM
No, it just says HQ. Probably means Highly Queer.
 
Same thing.
Queer is a quality.
 
@RegDwigнt With you it's a quantity.
 
Gosh, Bad Religion. Haven't heard that name since the last milllenniiuumm.
@Robusto viel hilft viel.
Doppelt hält besser.
 
@RegDwigнt Weniger wird mehr.
 
2:14 PM
Das sagen nur die Kommunisten.
 
@RegDwigнt Auch Mies van der Rohe.
 
@Robusto der Name ist Programm.
 
Those are the mullein as of 2014-08-06_07-08-40. The chicken-wire fence is like 5’ high. So they are big.
 
2:15 PM
Five-feet chicken are big indeed.
 
those are big chickens you're keeping
jinx!
 
I'm afraid I didn't get the game.
 
@Cerberus loser!
 
@RegDwigнt The damned deer leap it with a single bound.
 
Why post this in the morning??
 
2:16 PM
@MattЭллен yeah come on how come you sleep all day but for this shit you wake up.
 
I don't even get what I was supposed to do.
 
Q. Name a communisty puzzle island in the Caribbean. A. Rubik's Cuba!
 
@RegDwigнt I don't know. It's a talent, I guess.
 
The tiles would only combine seemingly at random.
 
@MattЭллен more like a latent.
 
2:16 PM
:D
 
@Cerberus that's how it felt, yes. But then I used brain and brain figured out.
 
@Cerberus three tiles at once
same numbers
 
Oh come on. Go back to sleep already.
Nothing to jinx here.
 
@RegDwigнt Where do I buy this thing?
@MattЭллен Oo is that it!
 
I wasn't jinxing that time.
 
2:17 PM
Hmm.
 
I was helping
 
@Cerberus at the flee market.
 
helo
 
@MattЭллен exactly my point.
 
i want to ask about english
 
2:17 PM
:D
 
Aren't such advanced brains expensive? Fleas are pretty smart.
 
what is differences between ramp and tollgate?
 
*English
*hello
 
@Cerberus no, flee market. Not flea market.
 
hello
hell ~ o
what is differences between ramp and tollgate?
 
2:18 PM
@user44517 they are nothing a like in my mind. why do you think they're the same?
 
sorry i am not englishman
i dont know what is it?
 
A ramp is a triangle you drive up. A gate is something you pass through.
 
like what?
 
i seek it in google
 
2:19 PM
 
ramp is gate?
 
Sorry, I meant, Gates.
 
oh man
 
@user44517 not according to everything everyone has said so far.
A ramp is not a gate. That's why it's a different word.
 
and what is job? you will show me a steve job
 
2:21 PM
For 3000 dollars I can show you many jobs.
 
lol
 
Anyway. What are you looking for and to what end.
 
can u give me some picture of ramp?
 
What are you hoping to find and where do you want to use it and how.
 
no i have a guest and they come from australia
 
2:21 PM
2 mins ago, by RegDwigнt
 
i mean ramp in toll
 
what is a ramp in toll?
 
yes
 
I see that now @Matt is sleeping. I see your game!
 
2:22 PM
yes please matt
 
yes please what?
 
i dont know what is ramp, surely
 
did you look at Reg's link?
 
please show me what is ramp in context of toll
 
it's the same as any other ramp, as far as I know
 
2:23 PM
Okay. Does anyone here pass toll booths on their commute?
Because I sure don't, so I should be the least active here, not most.
 
like this ? its not even close with toll , ramps.org/images/van-ramp-attached.jpg
 
do you know what a tollgate is?
 
tollgate i know
its a gate to allow me to toll way and i have to pay
 
why would a tollgate have a ramp?
 
Well he did post that google image search.
But by the looks of it those tollgates are just on ramps.
I have no other theory.
 
2:25 PM
and why my australian friend asking me about ramps?
 
oh I see, like an "exit ramp"?
 
yeah what is it?
 
not a small ramp, but a huge one
it's a very big ramp that allows you to exit a motorway
 
Different question: if he's Australian, surely he should be explaining things to you, and not the other way round?
 
2:25 PM
he wont explain
 
Then neither shall you.
That game is not limited to single-player.
 
because they speak to fast
 
my listenng skill is bad
 
@Cerberus better. Or is it? Perhaps it's worse.
 
2:26 PM
more 81s than the last shot
 
Well, presumably I'd have needed one more 81 to finish.
 
@MattЭллен but less oneses. It evens out.
 
And they are aligned, too!
 
@Cerberus it is trivial to align two things.
 
Not for me!
 
2:27 PM
That's why it's so awful.
@Cerberus okay, then that's why you are so awful.
 
i have once to make him explain anything, they explain and they speak too fast that i cant understand
 
I am.
Perhaps I will give it a third try later.
 
why all english speaker is too fast?
 
@Cerberus Anyway I did say it was hard.
That was the point.
 
You did.
 
2:28 PM
Your usual strategies won't work.
Actually, it's worse. They'll seem to work at first, but by the time you realize they don't, it'll be too late.
 
@user44517 so a ramp toll is a tollgate on an exit or entrance ramp.
 
Yeah I still felt like I was moving back and forth with little strategy.
 
so it leads to city?
 
I'm sure you can figure out some algorism and Autohotkey the game.
 
@user44517 it leads to more road, but road you have to pay to use
 
2:29 PM
@user44517 perhaps you can just look up the words in a bilingual dictionary of your choice? That should be immensely helpful. Better than trying to explain it in English.
 
depends where the road goes as to if it leads to a city
 
oh it seems like connection between toll and others?
 
oh i see
 
2:30 PM
phew english is hard for me
thanks btw @MattЭллен
 
no probs
 
The answer is 39° 35′ 51.57″ N, 105° 38′ 26.17″ W @ 12,855′ Z on 2014-08-16 18:12:52 MDT.
 
English is not hard. It's just one word you don't know.
Happens all the time in all languages.
In fact absolutely everyone does not know most words.
 
It's one word every single time
 
The question is where did you see little pink elephants.
 
2:39 PM
@Mitch no, those are three words.
 
@tchrist I can see my house from there.
 
I am too lazy to copypaste that.
 
@RegDwigнt three different single words.
 
2:39 PM
@Mitch then marry them already, gee. It's not hard.
 
I'm too lazy to look.
 
@Mitch Most people can.
 
@RegDwigнt polylogy is a life style choice.
 
@Mitch who said anything about poly.
You can marry one, then marry the other two.
 
@tchrist If by people you mean... wait it's not high enough.
 
2:41 PM
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Q: How to distinguish between uses of words like 'Marry'?

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The succulents in the foreground are Queen’s Crown, a type of stonecrop.
But the rest, those are pink elephants aplenty.
 
@RegDwigнt serial monosemy
 
@Mitch no, you marry the other two to one another.
Come on, this is the longest I have ever explained anything.
 
no, you.
it's the longest you've spent not explaining anything at all.
 
No, I am playing 243 and couldn't care less.
@Mitch my point exactly. Now pay me already.
 
2:42 PM
you probably could care a little but less if only it were called 729
 
The longest anything does not come for free.
 
@RegDwigнt showers Reg in hundred dollar bills
don't spend it all in one place.
Drinks for the house.
on Reg.
 
@Mitch The moral of the story is: Once you get high enough, anybody will see little pink elephants everywhere they look.
 
hypoxia.
So I am annoyed. I can't see my house from there. The mountain is in the way.
 
@Mitch Squint: you probably are using too large an aperture.
@Mitch Hypoxia: it’s not all it’s cracked out to be.
 
2:51 PM
my light bending skills are out of shape.
 
The close-up is at about ƒ/7.1 while the shot with the stonecrop is at about ƒ/3.6.
They are not of the same specimen.
Amazing what an iPhone can do these days, eh?
 
Summit lake is such a lie.
A lake cannot be at the summit.
It has to be below. Even if it's a puddle.
 
Well, when the cloud drops to just above it, it appears to be at the summit.
I’ve had clouds at all 720° of the circle there before, but only at the true summit of course.
@Mitch You jest, but the waldoed observatory at the summit relies upon line-of-sight control from way down at the University of Denver.
@RegDwigнt Crater Lake?
 
@tchrist the crater is inside the summit. The summit is above the crater.
 
Couldn’t you file off the edges?
 
2:58 PM
Then it'd all spill out and there'd be no lake for certain.
Not even below the summit.
 
Surface tension.
 
Who you call a surface. You're a surface.
 
Peon.
 
Now please excuse me, I have seven more hairs to split, and if you keep interfering like that I won't get anything done.
 
Peonette, peony, pink peonies.
 

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